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Peter took drum lessons from Gene Krupa himself. A lot of people don't realize he's a jazz drummer playing heavy rock. This is the main style difference between him and the other drummers in KISS.
It’s interesting though, to hear Paul Stanley speak of Peter Criss’s abilities, he excoriates him, as not even knowing the basic parts of a song. Paul mercilessly criticizes Peter in his book.
I agree. I just saw a video the other day about Gene not liking his singing part on 'Iwas made for loving you' I thought yeah it's kind of boring but then you hear those bass licks and it just rocks!
The “Peter Criss shuffle” works for me. I’ve been able to run through that 100,000 Years drum solo in my head for years. Peter was always underestimated, but he and Ace were really the true musicians in the band.
Gene is an excellent bassist...listen to the isolated bass line on "Save Your Love" from 'Dynasty'...I don't even know how he thought of it, but it is awesome...
You're right Gene Simmons baseline is real simple Paul Stanley's rhythm is simple Ace frehley was a hell of a guitarist switching from rhythms of the lead Peter Criss's awesome drummer he deserve a lot more credit the original lineup Gene-Paul Ace Peter is the best lineup they had.
lol we are not talking about some dude with crazy good technique, we are talking about the feel and tone of ace, no one can recreate that, theres hundreds of covers online, but none sound like ace@@skollybob
My favorite version of Let me go rock n roll is the Alive! version because I love how much they added to the song's live version. Ace makes a mistake or two lol and it's still my favorite version as it is.
Love the fact you're acknowledging Peter's brilliant subtleties. His 70s drumming was so tasty. Shame people fail to recognize it as much as he deserves
Yep, agreed, Peter does not get the recognition he deserves most of the time. I'm 57, been playing drums since about age 11, and I always tell people that Peter Criss taught me how to play drums, he just didn't know it! While no one would ever put him up there with Peart or Bonham, he was the right guy for KISS, and the formula worked! So awesome to see someone this guy's age recognizing the genius of an underrated and sometimes bashed drum legend!
I love the drumming on Shock Me. It's a really creative part. It's a shame the classic lineup lasted as short as it did. To me, that's when Kiss sounded the best..
@@mh2120I don't think that's Anton. Some of the drum fills are more intricate than what Peter would usually play but the overall feel sounds like Peter to me.
I once.had an album that had the KISS Asylum album on Side One and John Cougar Mellencamp on Side Two. That mighr have been worth something. It was a misprint by the record company that they were with at the time, Mercury Records.
He is my absolute favorite drummer ever, and if you U-tube any old school Kiss and see his drum solos, absolutely fantastic!! Jungle rhythm and jazz filled riffs and he has this unique big band swing thing and he was actually technically sound, and instilled it into Rock and Roll!!! Team Peter
Eddie Kramer actually even said that Peter's drums were the least edited part on Kiss Alive. He is an amazing drummer and has inspired so many drummers today. He is a legend and no one can take that from him, not even Gene and Paul lol. Long live the true one and only Catman.
I’ve heard that but on the next album Destroyer Bob Ezrin the producer had trouble getting Criss to play anything usable. By the time they got to Dynasty they were using session guys like Anton Fig as Criss was so bad
@@flyingburritobro68 That's not true. Peter Criss was not a great drummer by any means, but he was good enough to be in that band from the start. He was part of a signed band called Chelsea before he was in KISS anyway. There was nothing bad about Peter Criss' drumming at all, he just wasn't a virtuoso like Ginger Baker or Keith Moon. In fact he was probably a better drummer than Paul Stanley was a guitarist. Bob Ezrin complained about ALL of the band as he felt they were poor musicians, even Ace (who was undeniably the most technically gifted of the four); he was astounded that they didn't even know how to tune their instruments. By the time they got to Dynasty Peter Criss had gotten into a serious car accident so was physically unable to play. By KISS Unmasked he had fallen out of favour with the band. You can glean this information by reading all of their autobiographies; Peter Criss' is by far the best of the four by the way.
This video is literally pound for pound why Peter Criss is one of my all time favorite drummers and why I love his drumming so much. Down to the fact he’s talking about the same exact beat I love by him so much and even calling it the “Criss Shuffle” himself
There's a real irony in this because, at the time, this particular song would eventually lead to him being kicked out of the band. He played the drum part, but he didn't actually come up with it, the producer came up with the drum parts and had to teach Peter how to play them, which he struggled with. So, on the Destroyer album you had Peter playing these amazing groovy drum parts that were taught to him by the producer of the album, and recording a hit song with him on vocals that was written by a friend of his. So, he had an ego that was both earned a d unearned. The solo albums were what really killed his time in the band because the members were introduced to session musicians that could play the parts without the ego. Apparently Peter became insufferable towards the end, mainly because of Beth being the band's biggest pop hit.
He played the same shuffle beat on alive one and the first kiss album waaaay before destroyer. His drumming on the first alive album is some of the most raw crazy drumming I’ve heard. And I mean that in the best way. But I do know the whole story of that. I read all the original members books and he certainly had a big ego come the late 70’s. Still wouldn’t downplay his playin in his prime
Nice job. I think much of what Peter Criss did on those early albums was unique and solid and certainly not pedestrian. He doesn't get his due. Thank you for this.
Criss is a killer drummer! his groove on "Dr Love" is amazing. listen to the isolated tracks. SO much swing & groove. what he plays on "She" is incredible. so much energy. Cat-Man forever!
Peter Criss was the real deal back in the day.He has influenced so many amazing drummers .His drumming on the first six Kiss records changed the rock world.
I always think about Parasite. Funny thing is that I heard Anthrax cover first. When I heard the Kiss version, I was blown away, that groove is very alluring
@@mikesmith3342 whenever people begin a reply with “umm” I simply have zero idea what they’re attempting to communicate, as the remaining words aren’t read. If you think your comment important or interesting, try again without the ridiculous affect.
The main thing you hear with these guys, Peter, Ringo, Ace, Keith, Jimi etc etc even your Eddies and Bonzos are they were the first! They were my influence, they were the innovators…. Respect! 😎
Thank you for posting this! When this video started I just knew you were going to talk about the groove in Detroit Rock City. I played in cover bands years ago with several different drummers and maybe ONE of them actually got this right. It never quite felt the way it should. Hats off to Peter.
You can really hear it during the guitar solo. It's just great drumming. Gene Simmons actually complemented Peter not long ago saying that the drummers who have played in KISS after Peter had more technical ability but "no one in rock swings like Peter Criss."
When Peter's body is void of drugs & alcohol, he is a fantastic drummer. He has a unique style all his own which is recognizable (like Ringo's style is recognizable) and he is one of my main influences in drumming. Playing Detroit Rock City correctly without error takes some real stamina and concentration. It's not easy. I like Eric Carr and have a lot of respect for him, but Peter is the original and the man we're hearing on all of those classic Kiss songs (except on some of Dynasty). Go Catman!
I loved Kiss and always thought that flanger effect was the coolest thing ever. Made the drums sound like a jet airplane. My first album I got was Dynasty and first cassette was Alive 1. Good memories!!
Peter Criss was my first drum hero. His parts seem so simple until you start to understand all of the nuance. Really fun songs to play at any skill level.
@James Rudd I don't know I think what he said is pretty logical. Peter criss is a decent enough drummer and he's definitely got a good few beats under his belt so I don't see why someone who knows about drumming wouldn't enjoy him.
@@thiccboi4281 Name a player worse than Peter Criss if he's so good then, I'll wait...And while your at it, you can do the same for every band member. Like Ace is such a great guitar layer LOL
He was a phenomenal drummer. If you watch the video for 100,000 years unalive, you can see that he’s making all the notes. I wish he would’ve kept up his craft later on in life.
Cool video for a guy who rarely gets props from other drummers, Criss. As a burgeoning drummer when I sanded 2 twigs down for drum sticks to air drum to the radio when I was 8 y/o back in ‘77, KISS Alive II was my intro to Peter’s awesome live playing. Very underrated.
Gene's basslines are severely underrated, too. He does these little slides and "plucks" that everyone loves, but few notice. Thanks for giving the Catman some love ❤ 🤘
Yah, I'd say the Destroyer and Alive II eras had Kiss on top of the world and one of the best bands in the world with excellent musicianship at every position. But, sadly, something happened by the time they entered the 80s and some of the magic was lost.
@@Destin65Lol, the make-up era is one of the richest musically and technically, it's magical in another way and kicks ass as much as the classic years of the 70s.
@@rollinjukebox - You can't deny his soft "ballad" vocals and certainly not his ability to harmonize... As far as chewing through the paper sack goes, I think he's done that too, on occasion. More than your average drummer. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LeUosbClag8.html&ab_channel=KISSbestfan
@@rollinjukebox come on dude. that's what made peter's voice cool. how about baby driver and hard lick woman? it's a tough wild somebody bout to get hurt scratchy screamin vocal
It's good to see the younger people giving credence to the old school rockers. At the time, KISS were some of the pioneers to some of the modern metal. They weren't always the most technical like the modern high speed, intricate drummers like to be, but they rocked our butts off, and it was cool. I like that beat. I've been playing it for a long time. Cool stuff!
Peter Criss is the guy who got me into being a amateur drummer as a kid growing up. As a kid, he proved to me you don't have to be the flashy-ist and out there drummer to be an effective and solid drummer. Sometimes keeping it a little more "tame" allows the other band members a chance to shine.
@@Tedanson The reunion tour ...yeah, Peter sucked. He was great and I grew up defending him on being one of the best because of that solo. There is footage out that he crippled KISS because he wanted out the first time. When Eric Carr came in, I didn't care for but grew into enjoying what he did. He took it to another level like Eric Singer does with his amazing work at it. Peter was just great for that time and still one of my favorite drummers. Good or bad...KISS has always had that love-hate relationship that keeps each other in that lime and it sells.
Awesome music analysis of Peter Criss. It’s cool 😎 🔥🥇 that you are a musician and understand the slight subtleties in music styles. Also, Peter was taught by the great jazz percussionist Gene Krupa (R.I.P.). In essence, Peter Criss incorporated a jazz and rock and roll fusion into classic KISS.
I think it's cool you named it The Peter Criss shuffle!! I grew up loving Kiss and still love the original Kiss albums. I also play drums and could play that beat, but your right, there was always that ghost note or I thought something extra was going on with the bass drum or something. I still don't think Peter Criss is that great but most of them were his drumming and great for him because there is sometimes nothing like listening to old kiss albums man!🤘
The drum fills that he plays on the Alive! version of "Got To Chose" are so damn good. I've never even attempted to play it because it's too difficult for me. Glad Peter Criss, Ringo Starr, and Lars Ulrich get some love from you on your channel!
@@Provos7777 The thing with Lars isn't that he was a bad drummer in the compositinos, the issue is that he's always off time live (maybe he played tighter when he was younger).
@RockoEstalon lars stopped practicing during the mid 90s probably due to him being more than a drummer for the band. He has his moments in recent times tho
That was awesome thanks for sharing. PC has always been my favorite drummer. His jazz background really comes through in alot of his stuff especially on his solo stuff
KISS is my all time favorite rock band. The original line up cannot be beat. All 4 members brought something unique to the band, and that is what made them so great!! Thanks for sharing!
@@patrickwilliamson29And you think you're better? I sense jealousy in this comment because people like you who bash great drummers like Peter Criss is just jealous.
@@tainteddreams9117 He is Just salty.I also saw his comment in the phill rud video .People like this tries to Cover up their Failures by shitting on other peoples successes.
Got in to Kiss in 78, Peter's drumming on early Kiss stuff was fantastic. I always liked that shuffle/big band swing groove he would do. Definitely a huge part of the early Kiss sound and style. Thank you for highlighting how good Peter's stuff is.
Thank you so very much for the love of everyone's favorite drumming CAT, .... Peter Criss. I saw you brother in 76' and 77' Greensboro, NC. Thanks for the show of a life time.
Well done, your initiation to KISS and Peter Criss were much like mine. I like how you broke that down where anyone even without drumming background could understand what you were talking about. Thank you for doing this video, it was great!
As a kid in NY I saw these guys at bars and it was amazing !!!!! I have never heard a recording of them that touched the power and excitement as them live.
Thanks for covering Peter and enlightening those that may not have known how awesome Peter's early stuff was! So many people back in the day did know how good he was and that is why so many were influenced by him. Great job!
Saw him doing it live in Moncton, N.B. (Canada) in 1977. It was my "first" real rock concert, and my 16 year old mind was completely blown. One would see/hear me trying to play that exact beat for months after. Best memory I've ever had. Thanks KISS, and thank you The-Art-of-Guitar for reminding me of my youth.
Also during the guitar solo on Detroit Rock City, add his little double hits on the kick at the same time. He always played what the song needed. Guys that do that never get the recognition they deserve.
Thank you Mike for sharing this video. Peter Criss deserves more respect. I took one drum lesson from Peter years back during his visit to Charlotte, NC. It was in 1994 when he did a small tour in support of his album Cat #1. Well before the reunion. I worked at NBC News at the time (network). His management team invited me down to see the show as we had NBC News Channel based there in Charlotte off Billy Graham (it's still there right beside WCNC). Still have the signed LP, a few pics and video of me with him.. and signed sticks he played that night. Peter played this show at The Capri, an old movie theater off E. Independence that opened in 1964. Today it's a Hertz Car Sales. Back then, Peter's band came in from the right side of the theater. His tour bus was in this huge parking lot. He did a soundcheck. I was there filming and had a chance to interview him. He walked me around his kit and showed me several old jazz tricks. He did use his "Peter Criss Shuffle" (lol I love that you tagged that in your video!). Several tricks he used in his drum solo that night. He played "UNDER" the kit.. shell shots and cymbal shots in an upward strike without giving up timing / tempo. Not sure if you've seen The Rippingtons (contemporary jazz band headed up by Russ Freeman - big in the late 80s and 90s). Their drummer did a walk-around stick solo -- keeping the groove on the kit, off the kit, down onto the stage floor, around the kit and back to the kit. Peter did a version of this that night. He was amazing to watch. Sadly, the show was a total bomb. The Capri had a 995 capacity limit. The Capri used to have seats.. but at that time it was mainly open floor standing room. That night, less than 100 people showed up to see Peter. They missed a true pro playing jazz grooves mixed into 70s/80s rock style. It was a hard rocking show with Beth being the only slow/ballad style number. He's a true artist and yeah, Gene Krupa is evident in everything Peter plays. THANKS MIKE for all you do!
Peter's drumming on Parasite, was the first song I heard from them, when it was new. I was young, but that is still one of my favorite tunes from them.
Wonderful video, and a clear, detailed example of how KISS' musicianship is far more nuanced and dynamic than they're usually given credit for!! Thanks so much for making and uploading this!! I'm not good at using the correct terminology, so apologies in advance for the poor description, but the way Peter plays this beat in "100,000 Years" is a slight variation that includes an additional stroke on the hi-hat at the end of the beat!! That extra stroke is absolutely essential for giving the song its continuous, looping feel rather than the somewhat stop/start (yet swinging) groove of "Detroit Rock City"!! I absolutely LOVE the way Peter makes "100,000 Years" swing harder than a monkey let loose in a hall of chandeliers!! So therefore I'm surprised that absolutely everybody else I've heard, including Eric Singer (who I otherwise rate as highly as Peter) plays "100,000 Years" without that extra detail on the hi-hat!! Approx. 2:45 into this video you'll be able to clearly see (and hear) what I've clumsily described above: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QELGCeXPXIw.htmlsi=q5Em1E4U2RQSQhZp&t=164
I enjoyed this! KISS may not have consisted of master technical musicians, but it's the sum of all the parts that made them successful. Serve the song whether it's simple or complicated. There is room for everybody out there, pains me to see people who rip on musicians that have made it.
Peter influenced a lot of young drummers including me. I got my first kit (Ludwig) when Kiss Alive came out. Btw, Kiss re-recorded and dubbed a lot of the vocals and guitars in the studio for Alive but kept Peter’s drum tracks that were recorded live.
Thank you so much for defending my Catman 💚. I have always said Peter is a Superfantastic drummer. Detroit Rock City was my favorite song from KISS. I was in the third grade when I got Destroyer. It was the first KISS album I ever got.
Thanks for this video. A lot of metal heads discount Peter as a drummer. Those who have more knowledge understand he had a jazz background which didn't always translate to that metal head mentality. Eric Carr and Singer are great metal drummers but Peter's unique abilities are wasted on those who don't have the ear for it.
*are wasted on those who don't have the ear for it.* This is true for many death and/or tech metal bands, too. Most drummers don't get the respect they deserve just because they use triggers for their kick drums, which is hilarious because that's basically hard mode since it's *much easier* to detect when a drummer isn't playing right. This is doubly so for Meshuggah, whom even many metalheads will often state they just "play the same thing over and over" without understanding anything.
I've learned that a good rule of thumb is that these are PROFESSIONAL MUSICIANS, no matter how you look at it, they are almost all absolutely fantastic at what they're doing, especially the older ones who have been touring for decades.
We all used to go watch this band called Eden Rock in my neighborhood in Brooklyn, we were a young group starting out and was in awe of the drummer. It was Pete, a three piece band and Pete did all the singing. Such a nice guy to us young players. We learned a lot from them.
Excellent breakdown of 100,000 years. I'm 61, a drummer and played along to that album many times when it was first released. Finally - all of these years later - I get to witness the complexity of it all. You nailed it. 👏
So many people hate on KISS and their "lack of talent and musical ability" but it takes people like you who actually knows what's going to break it down. As a drummer myself, this video was helpful. And I loved hearing that flanger effect, it really did sound like KISS Alive! 🔥 Great video as always. Thanks!
@@DB-kl9bppeople forget it’s entertainment at the end of the day. Look at Jimmy Buffet, most of his songs were kitschy but he made millions smile and gave them a good time sucking down booze at concerts, isn’t that what it’s all about? Not everyone musician aspires to be the next Beatles.
@@mikeg2491 Are you trying to say the Beatles weren't a 3 chord band? lol Come on man, really. All rock and roll is simple. Not everyone wants to play progressive rock and I tell you now not everyone wants to hear it either.
As soon as you mentioned Peter Criss signature drum beat I immediately thought the hundred thousand years beat 100% that was awesome! And then at the end he speaks that beat up kind of like you did for Detroit Rock City either she gived Alyssa
Great analysis. My favorite Peter Criss song is Black Diamond, but it's for the vocals. Always thought his vocal sound was the quintessential 70s hard rock voice.
Even as someone who doesn't like much KISS, Black Diamond is one of those great songs that would be praised more, if another band wrote it. Have you heard the Bathory cover? Quorothon does it justice
Glad someone finally took the time to showcase some of the cool stuff he brought to the table, as a drummer myself I want to also point out another song that I think is overlooked (in terms of the drums)is parasite from alive, he plays it so fast but so tasty at the same time, super hard to replicate
Nice! Topper Headon from The Clash was awesome but weirdly underrated at the time too. I think people assume from the genre that it’s basic and I love how you break down what’s actually going on to give it that feel
There's loads of examples from the punk/new wave era. Rick Buckler from the Jam is monstrous but probably won't come up in too many internet discussions too. As no-one cared back then, just got on with it.
I play guitar, and I'm always amazed at how good some professional musicians are at adding little things that beef up the sound. Things you think are easy, turn out to be very difficult if you want to get it right.
I've never understood the hate musicians give Kiss. They were all rock-solid players, Paul Stanley has one of the great rock voices (soul PLUS growl), Ace had such a nice touch and sensibility, and every song is an ear worm. And they did this all while breathing fire on platform shoes. Seriously, these guys are brilliant.
I've always liked it the best of all their albums. They sounded so much better live to me. Songs like Deuce and Detroit Rock City really are killer good.
Absolutely thank you for acknowledging that! I stand behind the yet sounding simplicity yet more difficult to pull off than people realize. Malcolm Young!
I guess you can say anything on the internet, but I've never seen anyone, ESPECIALLY Paul or Gene suggest Peter's drumming sucked in the early days of the band. His playing was every bit as vital to their sound as anyone else in the band but it didn't last. I have a huge bootleg collection and my challenge to the apologists is always simple. Go through the songs from 74-76 that were played on the 79 tour (King of the Night Time World, Let Me Go Rock & Roll, Calling Dr Love, Firehouse, God of Thunder, Shout It Out Loud, Black Diamond, Detroit Rock City and Rock & Roll All Nite) and find a version on a circulating Dynasty tour bootleg where he played one of them better than he did at any 74-76 show. I'm not even sure there's versions of the either of the songs from Love Gun (Christine Sixteen or the title track) that he played worse in 77/78 than any of the 79 performances. The guy was great in the early years but he wasted his talent and abilities very fast once Kiss got successful. Why so many fans want to suggest otherwise is bizarre.
That's why I always liked Peters drumming most of all other Kiss drummers. He had that certain kind of "swing" to his drumming, not your typical straight power rock drumming. After all it's about music/emotions not technique.
My favorite rock drummers all have a jazzy swing. Criss, Van Halen, Bonham, Baker, even Steven Adler. You can’t have a stiff but sexy groove. Speaking as a bassist, that’s no fun to play with. Swing it.
Thanks for a great video! This was the very first Kiss song I ever heard after finding Alive! in my uncles stack of records in 1976. I put the needle on this song because I thought it was a cool title. It made such a huge impact and influenced me to start playing drums at 7 years old. I'm now 51. I practiced that song literally thousands of times. Thanks for giving him props.
Having watched some of these with Purdie, Peart, Pocaro etc have realized just how important ghost notes are, really drives the groove/beefs up the sound. AVH another underrated guy who can shuffle hard.
Big KISS fan but never really been a Peter fan. Part of that is hearing a lot of them from the reunion tour on, during which I think Peter just sounds like age has really caught up to him. But I appreciate you pointing out something cool about his original drumming. The Alive II version of Detroit Rock City feels just a bit quicker tempo than the album version. So even more impressive.
02:16 - did you hear that?! a lead guitar player actually said, “made me respect that groove a lot more.” amazing. guitar players may be entering their own stone age
THANK YOU! Look, he's my drum hero and the first drummer I ever became obsessed with. I believe it was HIM who made the KISS sound so unique. He wasn't a Rock drummer or a hard hitter. Paul always complains that he wasn't like Bonzo but if he was, their sound would have been more square/March-like and the cool thing about those first 8 KISS albums is that... it's Swing-y. If not, check either Eric playing his parts or even any KISS cover by major drummers and... they might be better Rock drummers or even virtuosos but non play it like Peter. Closest thing? Singer's drumming on Sonic Boom but not really. NOTHING against Eric Carr or Eric Singer (or Anton Fig SLAMING IT on Ace's solo album). What the both did on their eras was AMAZING and fitted the material PERFECTLY, but so did Peter on those first 8 albums. Now, on regards to his Shuffles: the simplest is Love Gun (which is literally what you thought he played on 100,000 Years at first) but indeed the two you mention are the HARD ONES! Specially the verses on Detroit Rock City with the open Hats and the double accent on the snare. What's also really cool's the triplets solo on 100,000 Years, which was written even in the demo for their first record. Everybody will obviously talk 'bout Shock Me and that fill with the open hats and the snare BUT my favorite fill of his (and I don't know if he borrowed it from someone else as he did with the Strutter opening from Gimmie Shelter) is the one that precedes the solo on Larger Than Life (studio track on Alive II): Flam on the Snare + kick (x4) and then 2 hits on the Toms. It's really simple BUT so powerful! Anyways, thank you for sharing your thoughts and acknowledging Peter Criss DRUMMING! I believe it to be a great injustice to ignore it 'cause maybe it wasn't as "standard" or "flashy", let alone overshadowing it with his personal life and/or struggles. Regards from Venezuela.
Most people fail to understand theorical complexity of a part it's just a bit of what it gives credit to a musician's performance. To fully measure what the player is doing, you have to also take into account the amount of time you'll be required to sustain that, the subtleties and intentions needed, the stamina to perform well, the stress or even excessive emotion of being playing alive in great scenarios like this kind of artists does. And in the end, what you're playing must sound effortless, solid and send the message that you're comfortable doing it. Acquire that level of control over the instrument is absolutely hard. My full respect to every drummer capable to do that for years.
🤘🏻🔥🤘🏻this was great! After watching that KISS quiz and now your video, I'm gonna switch out the Led Zeppelin 4 CD in my car for KISS Alive! For as long as I can remember I've heard people rip on Peter Criss, never understood it myself.
We all too often remember Peter Criss for wrecking himself on drugs, not for the amazing talent he was at his apex. The drum solo on the Alive version of “100,000 Years” inspired a lot of people.
_"I should've known you weren't a real KISS fan when you dressed up as Peter Criss. Nobody wants to be Peter Criss, not even Peter Criss."_ - Peter Griffin
