Answering Seventh Day Adventism 

Praise the Lord for this collaboration! I'm a former SDA and it's thanks to both your channels and Former Adventist that I left Adventism and learned the true Gospel and Christ, always wanted Robert and Myles to do a Collab, and boy was I thrilled when this came up on my RU-vid feed!

As an ex Adventist, I am thankful God showed me Acts 17:11. Through the Spirit's leading, I was able to discover the brainwashing I had undergone for years. I praise God for the freedom found in Christ.

Thank you Prof. Solberg for inviting Myles to your channel. He does an awesome job of refuting Adventism’s false gospel and world view. He teaches the one Gospel where many former SDA desire to reform and change the church, having one foot still in Adventism. He’s absolutely correct, they are cursed and fallen from grace. Some actually believe God has called them to reform the church but Paul warns about talking to them, lest you fall into their sin. We can and should present the Gospel to them, but when they deny it, we should dust off our feet and move on. It’s not healthy to engage with them unless one is very grounded in Orthodox Christianity. It’s their world view they use to bewitch people into their false gospel. 1 Timothy 1 tells us that these wanna be teachers of the law do not know what they are talking about. It was through many of your RU-vid videos and teachings that enabled me to fully depart and walk away from Adventism.

God Bless you both. I was fully convicted in the SDA teachings, but your videos have recently opened my eyes and made me question everything I held to be true. This message needs to be heard by all!

Thanks for having me, brother. Always a pleasure!

What a blessing to have you two brothers in Christ sharing the glorious news of Jesus’ complete work during this resurrection celebration season! God has reconciled us to himself by Jesus blood! Hallelujah!!

I grew up Sda, 4th generation. The more I understand about cult dynamics, the more I think adventism fits: infallible leader, special message, us vs them, control of how you think act or feel, special status of the grp, shame and guilt to control via sabbath, focus on new members, and of course the one true church. To name a few.

Thank you Myles for correcting and educating the world against the Heresis of the SDA

For sure bring him on again. Such a blessing. My favorite part was "what is the best thing to tell them" "The Gospel" I have delt with a torah believer for a while and we ended up having to agree to disagree. In my final message to him to state that we should move on from going back and forth I just left him with the Gospel. When trying to see how they view things its as if they miss the purpose of the Gospel.

As a former Adventist (glad I am out)me too,i thought i was going crazy questioning SDA and their prophet, but turned out i was 100% correct-great discussion

I have been hoping this conversation between these two gentlemen would happen!! Thank you Lord.

As an Adventist I am listening to your tube series on Hebrews and you are bang on the money agree with your views and enjoying. Thanks.

This is an awesome video and discussion. Both these individuals have been so helpful in allowing me to study my way out of Adventist indoctrination. Your ministries are important.

Way to go guys! AA (Myles) is a great channel and I've recently subscribed to you! Former SDA here and living free in Christ.

I’m a sabbath observing Christian who has been massively impacted by Myles’ work and am in the midst of looking for a new spiritual home. So far I’m gravitating heavily towards orthodox Anglicanism. Either way what he is saying about the SDA church is spot on. There are a lot of sincere true gospel believing Christians in the community that have no idea what the core doctrine of the organization teaches. It’s just a shame there isn’t a more readily available home for those of us who have individual convictions on sabbath observance outside of the SDA church. Thank God for the love and warmth that my brothers and sisters in Christ have shown me as I transition out. It has made the move so much easier as I feel an ease in my conscience that I am returning to the true body of Christ.

I am thrilled at this collaboration. Dr. Solberg has been a huge influence in my belief and biblical understanding, and Myles is a fellow ex SDA that has helped so many people as well.

Thanks Miles for breaking this down. What a worldview!!!

Thank you Brother Solberg for your ministry, I was born and raised in WCG and the Spirit has recently convicted me to do what Myles has done with SDA. Although I’m just starting and am relatively new in the faith your channel continues to be a blessing. Thank you

Galatians was my red pill too. It broke me out of adventistism(4 yrs Adventist) and woke me up to the gospel (just a few months ago). I was just preaching the gospel today to a bunch of Adventists at their church. We read Romans 4:5 and I told them to read Galatians and Romans in one sitting. They were being convicted of it. Miles channel has also helped me come out of it and now your channel. I have subscribed. Thank you very much brother, looking forward to more of your content. God bless.

Yesterday i was thinking that Solberg would talk about SDA, so here is Miles! It is great!

As a person who watches Myles all the time, your coverage and questioning of him was very educational. Because I have been dabbling into Apologetics (and even Polemics) concerning Adventism, due to all my online encounters with them where they do their utmost to try win Christians to their Sabbatarianism.

Need some help....whats your take on the cbcg (christian Biblical church of God)? I was shown some videos and did some searches on debates of the sabbath, but im not sure how to answer my friends post on faceplant...

This was the collab I was waiting for 🎉

Wow, I learned so much. Thanks Rob and Myles.

Wow, that was such a good interview with great information. So many similarities to HR. The enemy has been a liar from the beginning. All the lies mixed in with a little truth here and there. Praise be to God for His Truth, His Word, His gospel that cannot be shaken! I’m so thankful for your ministry, Rob! I pray that I can grow in my knowledge of the Word so that I can share the gospel more clearly with the one in my family who is HR, my friends and coworkers who are JW’s, and anyone else whom I come in contact with.

It's awesome you two were able to meet up!

Seventh Day Adventist rented billboards saying, "SUNDAY IS THE TRUE MARK OF THE BEAST!" I was shocked to see them and even more shocked when I lost a best friend, sister and nephew to them. 😢

This is Amazing we give thanks to Jesus, iam watching you from Zambia Gwembe in particular God bless you prof

I follow both, and now they Co Lab. Awesomeness

Brilliant discussion.. Miles and Answering Adventism is amazing. I also recommend having Elcie "Thunder" Lewistron on, he is a brilliant SDA scholar in Jamaica who was a rising starvin SDA, until that is he started reading the bible... he also wrote books available on Amazon.

Dr. Walter Martins ‘Kingdom of the Cults,’ included Seveth Day Adventist in his book. I heard him say years ago, he had a hard time with grouping them as a cult. It’s a great book, and it served me well. So happy to see young believers contending for faith! Blesses my heart beyond words.

Now this is a welcome surprised. I have been watching Miles from Answering Adventism for a while. It is very interesting in seeing the similar connections between SDA and Hebrew roots movement.

Why do we as a people, feel the need to complicate the simplistic. Jesus message to us was as simple as it gets. Believe, repent, follow, love. But yet we have the Torah observant, and SDA’s and the Mormons etc, complicate it and twist it. Why not accept the simplest path?

Thank you so much for this episode.

Been waiting for this Collab for so long! It's the apologetical equivalent of Dr Dre teaming up with Eminem. Blessings to you both! #Bars #Truth

I'd love a part 2. with Myles.

There are inaccuracies in this video and the teachings of the Seventh-day Adventist Church are inaccurately portrayed here. The Adventist Church teaches that God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three coeternal Persons. The Adventists do not teach that Jesus was exalted to be equal with the Father. The Adventists teach that Jesus, The Word, was always equal with the Father.

Thanks for doing this work, Prof!

I’m a current SDA member. Why not get a current SDA member to defend the SDA, someone who is actually prominent?

Fun verses for SDAs: For as many as are of the works of the Law are under a curse; for it is written, “Cursed is everyone who does not abide by all things written in the book of the law, to perform them.” Now that no one is justified by the Law before God is evident; for, “The righteous man shall live by faith.” However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, “He who practices them shall live by them.” - Galatians 3:10-12 You can try to live by the law, or you can live by faith, but you can’t do both. But we know that the Law is good, if one uses it lawfully, realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching, - 1 Timothy 1:8-10 “The law is not made for a righteous man “, interesting… The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law; - 1 Corinthians 15:56 What shall we say then? Is the Law sin? May it never be! On the contrary, I would not have come to know sin except through the Law; for I would not have known about coveting if the Law had not said, “You shall not covet.” But sin, taking opportunity through the commandment, produced in me coveting of every kind; for apart from the Law sin is dead. I was once alive apart from the Law; but when the commandment came, sin became alive and I died; and this commandment, which was to result in life, proved to result in death for me; - Romans 7:7-10 “The power of sin is the law”, and one of the Ten Commandments given as an example of the law empowering sin. For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace. - Romans 6:14 Not being under the law is the key to not being the slave of sin.

I'm realizing (now that I've heard more SDA catch phrases & doctrines) that I've gone round & round with SDAs here in these very comment sections on this channel. Interesting too that they don't like to reveal upfront who they are/what they believe. It's also kind of a red flag 🚩 now on the ones who go straight to & like to hang out in Daniel &/or Revelation &/or anything endtime-y.

Thanks Rob and Myles! Hopefully, we can see these on Mormonism and other branches as well!

Thank you

I love this guy

Oh ok you read my mind!!! Thank YOU !!

Awesome episode I hope you 2 get together again soon I learned a ton from this

Thanks for this. I've been trying to learn a little about SDA lately as am in contact with one.

Thank you!!!!

As one who sincerely left the SDA church as a young adult, and then studied my way back into the truth, I want to make it clear that the Bible teaches us to lay "precept upon precept" and in this way that Bible absolutely teaches that God's perfect deffinitions of morality are eternal, the law is love [love God -- 4 commandments, and each other -- 6 commandments] and Lucifer and the angels absolutely lived under all the precepts of love as they were later written in stone. Greed [the love of money] is the root of all evil, and lucifer, the Bible says, claimed He would rise above God! Essentially it records that he says, "I will become the Most High God." The trouble is that according to SDA church's own history, we rejected the actual gospel in 1888. Since then the church has been divided, some Adventists understand the gospel and some don't. The key is to differentiate between legalism and obedience. Is there ANY gospel that teaches us to disobey? NO! The one and only true gospel teaqches us to observe all things over, and over, and over. "If ye love Me, keep my commandments." Any gospel that frees you from the call to obey is not from God! Not to mention how Rome, AFTER caliming to be ABOVE Jesus Christ and Bible, INVENTED SUNDAY SACREDNESS. It is historical fact. The 7th day Sabbath was never changed by God. "I change not." Jesus said, "I have not come to destroy the law nor the prophets, but to fulfill [establish and obey] the law."

Okay, the SDA church doesn’t need to depend on Ellen White and The Great Controversy at all to demonstrate that the character of God was challenged in heaven, because the entire idea can be found spelled out quite nicely in prophecy. So, let’s look at Revelation 5. Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. Rev 5:2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? So, a strong angel in heaven is raising a challenge here, asking who is worthy to open the seven sealed scroll in the right hand of the Father who sits on the throne in heaven. And so, in the next verse, we are told explicitly where the search for such an individual took place. Rev 5:3 And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. No man in heaven, nor in the earth, nor under the earth. So, let’s consider this “no man in heaven” aspect of the claim here in Revelation 5, because we should expect that any member of the Godhead in heaven should have been found worthy and able, right or right? I mean, if the Adventists are simply full of it and making up a silly alternative world view and all with no Scriptural backing whatsoever, but as we can clearly see, this prophetic narritive indicates that heaven and earth and under the earth was searched and there was found no one worthy to open the scroll. The greater question is why were they looking for character qualifications in the first place, because they just wanted to waste a lot of time in a meaningless endeavor, right? No, because this strong angel was leveling a challenge that no one was found that could meet it, even among those who dwell in heaven. And this failure to find an individual to meet this strong angel’s challenge caused John to weep much by his own admission. Rev 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. Why was John weeping, obviously because no man was found who could meet the strong angel’s challenge. But, we need to ask why the Godhead was hindered in this matter? Why wasn’t a member of the Godhead found worthy prior to this point in the prophetic narritive John is laying down here? Obviously, because no one in heaven, earth or even under the earth could demonstrate that even members of the Godhead were worthy to meet the strong angel’s challenge until Christ went to the cross and was allowed to have his character tested unto death. Rev 5:5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof. Christ had to first prevail, because he wasn’t given a free pass before hand. Every detail of this chapter is attesting to the fact that even the character of God was in serious question before this point in the prophetic timeline of events. Rev 5:6 And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. The reality is that Christ had to come to the earth and his character was tested unto death to make it possible for him to prevail and meet the challenge being put forth by this strong angel in the first three verses of Revelation 5. This is why one of the results of Christ’s victory on the cross is also mentioned in Revelation 12 as the casting down of the accuser of the brethren, namely Lucifer. Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. The accuser of the brethren is so called, because it wasn’t merely God who was being accused of being unworthy, Lucifer was arguing that no one could be found worthy in heaven, earth or under the earth to meet his challenge back in Revelation 5:1-3, remember? So, this isn’t just some dream or alternate world view of the Seventh Day Adventist church. It is right here in Scripture for all to see. But wait, there’s more. Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne. Rev 5:8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints. Rev 5:9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation; Notice, what is being sung here is a “NEW SONG, not an OLD SONG! Because before Christ went to the cross, no one could prove to Lucifer that anyone was worthy to meet his challenge. But, after Christ was tested unto death to qualify his character as being worthy, all of heaven broke out into a New Song proclaiming the worthiness of the Lamb, because this was a new discovery for the universe that at least one member of the Godhead, namely Christ the slain lamb of God, was as truly righteous and worthy as the Godhead was claiming to be. So, while one might argue that the Seventh Day Adventist church doesn’t necessarily have everything correct, their idea that Lucifer challenged the moral fitness of the Godhead is an idea that deserves a lot more serious consideration given what is written here in Scripture. Else, if the character of God were not under attack, why would Christ go through all the trouble of dying so the New Song of Revelation 5 declaring his character to be worthy could be sung in order to vindicate his character before the universe? And how else do you think Lucifer is staying alive in his open rebellion against God? God could crush Lucifer in the blink of an eye and end his terrorism on our planet at any time. Is it just luck perhaps, keeping him alive? Or at what point do we pause to recognize that Lucifer accused God of being an unfit judge; hence, effectively halting the heavenly court until the character of God in all three members of the Godhead could be vindicated? That might explain the real meaning for why God is looking forward to this great event in prophecy. Isa 45:18 For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I am the LORD; and there is none else. Isa 45:19 I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth: I said not unto the seed of Jacob, Seek ye me in vain: I the LORD speak righteousness, I declare things that are right. Isa 45:20 Assemble yourselves and come; draw near together, ye that are escaped of the nations: they have no knowledge that set up the wood of their graven image, and pray unto a god that cannot save. Isa 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Isa 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. When every knee bows and every tongue swares to God, it will be in acknowledgement of God’s claims of being righteous. As we can clearly see, that day of universal vindication has not yet come, because Lucifer’s sin rebellion and accusations against God are still going forth and many in Christianity have become unwitting mouthpieces for Lucifer’s cause in this respect. Presently, only Christ’s character has been cleared and vindicated. The vindication of the characters of the Father and Holy Spirit are yet to occur. But, make no mistake about it, there is a day God looks forward to when his great name will be sanctified. Eze 36:23 And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.

I’m familiar with the 7th Day theology from various discussions with them. Although the their theology never made sense and has many errors. This is explaining so much. I’m connecting the dots.

This was a great stream ❤

As former SDA members, we must financially support this ministry. C. Myles should be launched to a more comprehensive media like a broadcasting network to spread and preach the real gospel. To help mostly SDA members get out the mess and bondage of a hybrid gospel that is polluted with all the debris of the old covenant into the new covenant. We cannot ignore what Jesus teaches us in Matthew 9-16-18 about the wineskins and the old/new garment parables. The vast lies of Helen White must be revealed to the entire SDA community. We must help SDA members to get back to the genuine gospel, experience the real freedom in Jesus Christ our Lord.

I read a book, The Four Major Cults. SDA was one of them. I came out of the RCC but heard a clear gospel message at 18. I have studied with pastor R B Thieme Jr for decades. I love his clear and complete teaching. God makes sense and his plan makes sense.

the Millerite movement, ‎October 22, 1844 - how did that work out?

Excellent work brothers!

Real good presentation! I don't know if you have discussed this before but according to the SDA doctrine

I did not hear where Myles Christian referenced the SDA world view? I have never heard that particular belief of theirs and would like to read it for myself.

There’s nothing that can condemn me, including the Law, because you would have to condemn Christ. Wow that’s a revelation 🔥🔥🔥

Three good things came to me from the Adventist "church". 1. I did get my life cleaned up. 2. I met my wife. 3. the absolute greatest thing; the constant, never ending, exposition of Catholicism pushed me right out the doors and into the arms of the Catholic Church.

Myles, please tell us why Satan was rejected from Gods présence, tell us how& why the papacy adopter Sunday & gave it the would & why are u making up things,sounds like u were there.

Hay Brother I really appreciate you and your Chanel it has helped me a lot

Can somebody please tell me what the true gospel is. I thought it was justification by faith in the merits of Christ? Is this wrong? My SDA Pastor told me it was by grace through faith and not of works lest any man boast. That Jesus died according to the scriptures. And that the good news was Jesus loves humanity and provided a provision to those who come to Him. Is the good news something else?

In 2009, at the age of 46, I was saved out of Roman Catholicism when someone presented the gospel to me. I repented of that false belief system and turned to believing on Jesus Christ as my Saviour. The person that shared the good news with me didn't have to know all the nuances of Roman Catholicism, they just needed to know and share the truth of the word of God. Faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. IMHO it would be better served if brother Myles spent more time just sharing the gospel with the lost (as we are commanded to do) rather than wasting his time on apologetics (there's no commandment for that). Here's why: there's the gospel truth and everything else is a lie. I could spend many, many years studying all the cults (JW, SDA, LDS, Islam, Judaism, Roman Catholicism, Hinduism, Buddhism, etc., etc.), but just like the person whose job it is to recognize counterfeit money, they don't do deep studying of false money. No, they have a deep understanding of real money, so when the fake stuff comes into their possession they know it's fake immediately! Christians don't need to know the 'worldview' of the SDA (or any other religion for that matter), rather we need to diligently know the gospel, and we need to boldly, confidently, and compassionately share the gospel. We don't need to "Answer Adventism", SDA's need to answer to God. And it's the Christian's responsibility to reveal the truth to the lost! That's how we are obedient, by doing the Great Commission (Matthew 28:18-20).

😳 I'm having to listen a 2nd time, because this is OVERWHELMING 😱

Hi, would you guys mind doing a video helping me explain to Adventist how the seventh day Sabbath was perpetual at the original creation and not a physical 24 hours. The Bible says day and night with the first six days, but does not say this with the seventh day. I have come to believe that the sabbath Commandments weren’t given until Mount Sinai. How do I explain how the seven day cycle originated if it didn’t come from creation? Have you ever looked at all the different languages in the world where Shabbat is the word for Saturday/7th day? This is the case for so many languages. It seems like it must have originated from before the time of the flood/tower of Babel when everyone dispersed and God confused the languages. My Adventist friends consistently point back to creation as the origin of sabbath and the seven day cycle across planet earth in conjunction with the seventh day translated as Shabbat in so many languages throughout the world. I have watched your video on Hebrew three and four, which talks about Christ is our Sabbath. But even though I mentioned this they point back to the physical 24 hour origin of the sabbath at creation. Would you guys mind tackling this question? I have already listened to answering Adventism talk about how the seventh day Sabbath and the seven day cycle did originate from creation, but that the Hebrew for the eighth day also represents recreation. The problem is that nowhere in the Bible does it give us the permission to transfer Sabbath to the eighth day . I guess I just need some help. I come from an Adventist background, and most of my friends are still Adventist. God bless in your ministries! I would really appreciate it! Let me know if this question makes sense.

Galatians: Answering Everyone.

Thank God for this Bible truth well explained by brother Myles

When I heard you guys talk about the authority Satan had in the pre-creation paradigm, and his jealousy at Christ's exaltation, I couldn't help but think of a parallel in Islam. In Islam, Satan is angry and jealous, but at mankind's exaltation-- in the Koran, when Allah created Adam, all of the "Injeel" (the angels) were commanded to bow to mankind, and Satan got angry and rebelled.

Good stuff!

I'm SDA. The very core difference in teaching between Adventism and others about salvation is that others teach that all that's needed for salvation is to believe in Jesus for forgiveness of sins, while Adventism teaches that along with believing in Jesus for forgiveness of sin, you also need to live a life that respects the principles of the ten commandments. The guest didn't mention the word "sin" even once. If you ask, what are we being saved from? We are saved from sin. Sin is defined as transgression of the law 1 John 3:4. Yes, there's only one gospel. Jesus said John 5:14 "Behold, thou art made whole: sin no more". The gospel of Jesus is one that teaches against sin. In Romans 3, you find these verses... 20 "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin." Meaning, we are not saved by keeping the law, rather, it is through the law that we know what sin is. 23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" 24 "Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:" 28 "Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law." 31 "Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law." That's very much self-explanatory. The characteristics of the last day church according to revelation is a church that keeps the commandments of God Rev 14:12 "here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus." Rev 12:17 "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ." If you take the bible for what it says, you will agree with the above texts. It is both of you and others who are preaching a different gospel. Should we wait until the end of time to find out who was right? Because both can't be right. I choose what the bible says, and not turn a blind eye to those texts. The honest reason why victory over sin is not taught is that preachers themselves have not overcome certain sins such as lying, lust, covetousness, keeping the Sabbath etc... Thus they teach their followers and try covert others to the doctrine that all that you need is to believe in Jesus only, that the law can't and doesn't have to be kept. For extra reading, below is the entire chapter of Romans 6. 6 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? 4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. 5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection: 6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof. 13 Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God. 14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. 15 What then? shall we sin, because we are not under the law, but under grace? God forbid. 16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? 17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. 18 Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness. 19 I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your flesh: for as ye have yielded your members servants to uncleanness and to iniquity unto iniquity; even so now yield your members servants to righteousness unto holiness. 20 For when ye were the servants of sin, ye were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had ye then in those things whereof ye are now ashamed? for the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, ye have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

I am an SDA. Guys, if anyone wants to know what we believe, read our "28 Fundamental Beliefs." I can't believe the level to which Myles misrepresents our doctrine. He has lost conscience. Please Myles, pursue the path you have chosen faithfully. If it is of God, then he will bless, but he can't bless you when you lie about us. When did you hear us say that the cherubim covering the ark are Jesus and Satan? Please please, what you are doing is not right.

🙏 for me.

The Apostle Paul took issue with Jewish Christians who insisted that the gentile believers had to obey the Torah. Paul accused them of preaching a false gospel. Paul's gospel, which he claimed was received by direct revelation from Jesus, and was accepted in the non-Jewish parts of the Roman empire, became orthodox Christianity by the end of the second century. Therefore, I don't understand how SDA's gained a following in the nineteenth century based on observing the Saturday sabbath. It seems to me that Mrs White met with a different Jesus than Paul did.

The "present truth" belief of the SDA sounds very similar to the Jehovah’s Witnesses "new light" doctrine.

I know there are Bible believing Christians in the Adventist church. And I also dont believe that Myles has any authority from God who is the Truth and not Myles to condemn people and claim that Adventists have no peace with God. This is taking the place of the Holy Spirit who only can convict

I never understood how anyone can be a SDA with the rampant failed prophecy so blatantly.

So Rob, you actually say Christian and Torahism in the same breath, but I know a Torah person who says they don’t like the word “Christian” 😲 Can somebody explain?

Nice, Rob, for bringing on Myles. I remember you asked me for information on SDA. There you go! It seems you are shocked with what you are hearing, but that is the SDA false teachings. Ellen White was a great fairy story writer even enough, she stole material from other crazy teachers of their time.

I like this conversation going against SDA teachings. Now to not be one sided have you thought about giving a SDA pastor a chance to be on your platform. Then you will have both sides. I like having both sides. In any conversation, it gives us a chance to not be biased.

Holy moly! 😳 No wonder I've had such a hard time getting a grasp of SDAism 😱 There's so much to it that you have to know: The history, "The Great Controversy," the hidden/convoluted doctrines, etc. Yikes. Also explains why it's so hard to dialogue/get through to SDAs. Lord to help 🙏

I grew up an SDA, went to Adelphian Academy (Michigan), Andrews University college, and graduated from the SDA Seminary (M div). Myles is correct about many of the historical views of Adventists and he is also correct about their attempt to "appear" evangelical. I was pushed out of their ministry after serving for about 15 years when I concluded that some of their views regarding Ellen White and their "remnant" views attached to their organization were not Biblical. His commentary of Arian views held by the pioneers of Adventism is correct but may not be applicable to Adventists generally today. I was taught the eternity of our Lord Jesus when attending their seminary in the '60s. From the bio of professor Solberg it appears he is a Baptist. But there are lots of divergent views held by Baptists that I am sure he would not like to be associated with, but likely he agrees with the central doctrine of salvation by faith alone in the redemption secured via the death, burial, and resurrection of our Lord. I presently attend a Sunday church that teaches that doctrine in almost every service for which I rejoice, however they also teach a few things I disagree with including some dispensational views (including the rebuilding of the temple at Jerusalem as a fulfillment of O.T. prophecy). I am closely aligned with professor Solberg's views on the Old and New Covenant as it effects practical matters but also interpretation of prophecy. I have found most of what he is teaching on the covenants refreshing and I have been there for many years. Many "Former Adventists" would be blessed to pay attention to professor Solberg's views regarding the "end" of the Old Covenant and how that Biblical teaching applies to 1948 and the return of the Jews. Another delusion! I do not know where Myles stands on that but it is another branch of Torahism. God bless and keep up the good work. Richard Hirst

As a Seventh-day Adventist, I am happy to say that I have peace with God :). I'm so thankful for what Adventism taught me about the need to spend personal time in the Word of God as all of the points made against Adventism in this video can be proven from scripture.

"For there are many REBELLIOUS PEOPLE, full of MEANINGLESS TALK and DECEPTION, especially those of the circumcision group. They must be silenced, because they are DISRUPTING WHOLE HOUSEHOLDS by teaching things they ought not to teach-and that for the sake of dishonest gain." ~ Titus 1 : 10ff They must be silenced (metaphorically speaking).

You may consider having an actual Adventist on your channel. Myles clearly has an axe to grind and may be skewing his responses to your questions in favor of trashing his former church. I’ve seen him debating SDA’s and there’s not a lot of respect coming from him. His debate style reminds me of atheists debating Christians. There’s lots of preachers kids that tend to lash out when they grow up. Conversely, I’ve seen you in debates and you are very respectful and dare I say, Christlike.

Loved the interview but it would've been nice if the gentlemen allowed the interviewer to speak and ask more questions. Nonetheless, this was great!

There were 119 thumbs up, so I quickly changed that to 120 🙂 lol

It would have been better to have one of the many SDA apologists answer his accusations instead of a conversation between two persons hostile to the message

*It's like drinking from a FIRE HOSE, not "garden hose". Jus' sayin'.

Didn't EG White say there were people living on most of the planets in our solar system as well as THE SUN?!?!

The SDA "fullness of the gospel" and "everlasting gospel" sounds similar to how Mormons speak.

It doesn't really matter what I believe. What matters more is the way it makes sense to me.

Myles...you had plenty of time to prepare for this interview, so why didn't you find and produce your accusation that Satan was accusing God for making the 10 commandments unfair. What we teach is - Satan did not want to be subjected to any law of God which is common sense in the context of his rebellion. So, you twist our teachings for your gain. You stated that you are an introspective, deep logical thinker, yet you fail to quote us correctly which shows you never understood Adventism and that is why you left. The 10 commandments did not exist in heaven for Angels cannot commit adultery (Mt. 22:30), nor can they dishonor their Mother, nor can they kill each other, etc. The principles of the 10 existed in heaven and those principles were applied and modified to meet man in his fallen condition. I still think you have unresolved father issues and a deep need for attention. And for the text you could not find - where Satan wanted to be equal with God - is in my bible - Isaiah 14: 12-14. And I have only listened to 5 minutes of your interview, so Myles, talk to a knowledgeable converted SDA Pastor and get your life back on track. And note this simple point - when you want to be like others and be above others as the text read - it is because you are envious and jealous. I question your conversion, spend your time uplifting the cross of Christ and stop tearing down other churches, it will pay greater dividends in the end. I wish you the best but you are no apologist for Christ nor Truth. And this interview by Rob does not speak well of his knowledge of Adventist theology.

I don’t understand how seventh day Adventist are a cult because they have different beliefs.

1. I am a New Covenant Adventist Minister. And while I agree with many of the points, most of your points come from “early writings”, which most don’t even read, the church seminary has rejected Last Generation Theology as you’ve described it, ever since Kingdom of the cults. (I just finished your book by the way Dr. Solberg. I liked it) 2. Pre-creation fall of angels… while this comes from EGW getting this from other sources, Lucifer must have fallen before the creation, otherwise he would not have been in the garden and in the book of job. But the ideas about satan and the law in heaven is truly made up. And when the actual war took place is subjective and typological. 3. There are 3 Adventism’s. A cultic right wing sda that worships pioneers and egw over scripture. Another left leaning humanist version. And then a balanced group that embraces the gospel but has yet to grasp the gospel of the new covenant entirely. 4. Desmond Ford was correct. The IJ, and the close of probation perfection doctrine, and infallible EGW, last generation theology. These all need repentance for sure. 5. Very few believe in the Arian beliefs any more at all. You’re basing these ideas on early writings. Adventism has changed since that time. But not completely. The Great Controversy in this vein of the commandments is ALL extra-biblical supposition based in EGW. 6. God on trial has some biblical validity, but in the sense of the love of God, and the protection of the unfallen worlds Rev 12:12. Fixating on Satan is not good for sure. Arianism has been rejected now. Many of these arguments you are making have been rejected today. 7. They don’t believe the Trinity is a physical being. That isn’t correct. They do believe they are three separate beings. This may be an Arian left over. I’ll have to chew on that. 8. Herbert Douglas is ABSOLUTELY NOT our greatest scholar. He was a right wing theologian. If you want correct Adventism you need to read GEORGE KNIGHT. 9. Did anything good come out of the 1800’s? Even the pre-trib rapture came from that era of nonsense. 10. Diabolical council in outer space? What? Weird… no. Never seen that ever. You’ll need to document a source. 11. Replacement theology is an old idea for Christendom. We believe it happened at the stoning of Stephan. 12, You’re correct in its gospel. I preach the new covenant and I openly oppose salvation by works. The Weslyian holiness doctrine together with historic Arianism and the law made for a deeply false gospel. 13. Bro… I have never owned a Clear Word, no one ever never uses it. This is a false claim. There are plenty of real issues. No need to invent things. (The same could be made of The Message, which evangleicals do use for study) 14. The sectarianism is for sure a horrible fruit. (To be fair, this is a common theme in Christendom) (fyi: I wouldn’t be surprised if Torahism came from people reading the book Great Controversy way back, lol) I have been bringing the gospel for years now and take deep joy in leading people to Christ. And I have many say, “this is the first time in my entire life I ever thought there was hope I could be saved”. And broad brushes of judgment aside, this is indeed where God has continued to call me. And I am reorienting everything into the new covenant gospel. Including the end of the world and the second coming. The Lord is indeed coming, and the invisible church that know Him will hear His voice. Grace and peace brothers.

1 John 2:3-6 n 7-11. Likewise Revelation 3:18-20. Last part of 18:20. Isaiah 8:20, John17:3❤

Now that you have invited a former SDA who has misrepresented us, how about inviting a current SDA who will give you answers and resources that will show you the true SDA views. Not the views of a former SDA whose ideas and feelings about SDA is clearly seen on his channel.

Brother Myles made quite a few sweeping generations about SDA including "SDAs don't have peace with God"! Millions of SDA "don't have peace with God"! I've watched a few of your shows and clearly brother you don't have peace with God! You may say you do but all I see and sense (by their fruits you will know them) is anger! May you find peace that only comes from forgiving those who have wronged you! 😢

Wait till everyone has to come to the reality that Adventists are right. Sunday law is coming. And when it is forced and people accept it they will receive the mark of the Beast.

SDA is the true church of God. We thank God for that. Christ is coming we need to prepare a people.