Anthem ARC Genesis: Optimization, & Setup Tips for the Ultimate Home Theater Experience

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In this livestream, we sit down with our friends at Anthem to discuss the best setup and calibration practices for ARC Genesis room correction to get the most out of your Anthem-powered home theater system. We will discuss how to properly set up the microphone, and where to position it for multi-point measurements. We will then go over post-calibration results real time using an AVM 90 15.4CH Processor, what they mean and how to make tweaks to optimize the performance of your system. Getting ARC Genesis optimized will ensure the most immersive surround experience and best bass performance to enjoy your favorite music and movies to their full potential.
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@SwirlingDragonMist Год назад

I am so excited! Because I see the abundance of knowledge unfolding to elucidate the nuances between the various room correction options on the market. It’s such a cool time to be alive, we made it you guys! We have 192khz room correction that kicks grass! And not just from one company either, but they’re rolling out all over the place. Plus we are fully in the information era! Look at these charts and experts video conferencing in real time to give us product insights. Amazing! Just last decade you could scarcely find an answer to how these technologies cross compared. Half the products were marketed without even having a spec sheet. But now we’ve got spinoramas and graphs and tru insight into how these products behave. We are so fortunate! I am so stoked! We have arrived gentlemen!

@NileshPatel-lk3bq Год назад

this has been an awesome way to hear straight from the experts. thank you Gene for thinking of this format and answer some of the burning questions about the usability of the software and the bass management. my LCR are behind the screen so that tip about the tilt and frequency correction range was super helpful. I am using the 90 and finding it the best processor i have owned to date, and so is the ARC software. the only pain point is that there isn't much written/released documentation out there there describes the capabilities of the ARC features in expert mode and the interdependencies. thanks again. looking forward to more of this.

@Paxmax Год назад

Wow! I must give Anthem a spin!

@BobbyJ337 Год назад

I currently hv a onkyo rz50..my next upgrade is the avm90

@roccobruno8027 Год назад

AVM 70 is a great looking and great sounding pre/pro and Anthem ARC has been a revelation.

@venus263 Год назад

Hey Gene, hi audioholics. Great upload. Am confused. What do you mean by saying 'turn off the LFE on the subwoofer after setting the crossover on the AVR to 80hz during calibration?' I use REL subwoofers, but there's no switch to turn off the LFE. Which frequency should the crossover on the REL subwoofer be after the AVR crossover is set to 80hz before I start my calibration?

@adamjj85 Год назад

Great session! ARC running at 24/192 is really impressive. Pretty sure no other room correction even comes close to that, most are 48khz. I am curious as to the reason that phase alignment is a separate step in ARC. I believe other software like Audyssey and Dirac just take care of it automatically.

@Audioholics Год назад

Dirac has the ability to run at 192khz but doesn't on most products due to the amount of processing power required.

@SwirlingDragonMist Год назад

I am so relieved to hear that it has 192khz, the downsampling in past room correction software was such a bummer, and really forces a decision between a dedicated two channel hifi, and a room corrected lofi home theater. Such a relief to no longer be forced into such a compromise, and be able to get brilliant sound from a single all purpose device.

@davidl929 Год назад

Does Dirac run at 192khz on Marantz cinema 40 or 50?

@herbgo1000 6 месяцев назад

I use two MartinLogan BalancedForce 210 subwoofers with the Perfect Bass Kit (PBK). Do you recommend running PBK before running ARC from the AVM90? Or, just use ARC from the AVM90 to handle everything?

@erichabegger9895 8 месяцев назад

Some of us don't have an extra room for home theater. Can I use ARC Genesis for a room where the TV screen, speakers, and sitting position are asymmetrically located in the room. For instance, I tried to use the Audio Adviser web based tool and it wouldn't allow me to put in my setup. Is the real ARC Genesis similarly restricted? A question related to that is this: Does the Anthem AVX 1140 provide for third party room software correction to be inserted between internal preamplifier and amplifier?

@lardrell 6 месяцев назад

i have no adjustment tabs in my arc. it does not give me the option. anyone know whats going on,

@desray2k 9 месяцев назад

It's been nearly 5 mths now...has Anthem roll out some of the wishlists that Gene had asked for the MRX 1140?

@rockp5396 7 месяцев назад

Hello, great video - thank you for putting it together. I am contemplating a pre/pro vs a AVR generally and a MRX1140 vs AVM70 specifically, with the default being a AVR/MRX1140. What factors would push me towards a Pre/Pro or AVM70? Thank you

@Audioholics 7 месяцев назад

I would definitely get the AVM70 and add external amplification. The 1140 internal amps are ok for small to medium sized rooms with nominal 8-ohm speakers. You can buy a relatively cheap 11CH amp from Monoprice or 2 separate amps to add to the AVM 70 and it would give you better results for just a bit more money. Our channel partner Audio Advice is having a sale on the AVM70 for $3,400: bit.ly/AnthemAVM90p

@rockp5396 6 месяцев назад

Great, thank you for this feedback. Do you have experience with the MCA series of amps from Anthem? If yes, how do they compare in sound quality to the Monoprice? Thank you for your time.@@Audioholics

@Novilicious Год назад

Avm 90 or Marantz AV10… not sure which processor to get😅

@zakkwylde5545 6 месяцев назад

Is there a way to toggle the arc genesis settings on/off?

@trevormatt6663 Год назад

Ive just been back and watched this for the 2nd time. Is there some conflicting comments on when the phase alignment should be run? Before or after ARC?

@Audioholics Год назад

I believe phase alignment is the last step in ARC.

@trevormatt6663 Год назад

@@Audioholics Thank you

@Australia852 Год назад

Thanks for the video. Im curious if there is going to be any more new features added to ArcG?

@basilparker3237 Год назад

Really great show, learned a lot! Just got a AVM 70 8k and can't wait to try your suggestions. One question, I have 2 SVS PB 3000's, when running ARC what should I set the onboard volume to?

@kyleo2113 Год назад

I have the AVM 70 - recommend going to quick measure in ARC and setting volume of each sub to produce ~71db (from the online manual). I also recommend a thorough read of the manual and to set your volume limit first thing. The volume control is a bit touchy and it is too easy to accidentally push to max especially using web UI.

@youssefhamidi8152 11 месяцев назад

They need to look at releasing an avm 50 with 7.2. I am completely fine with a simple 5 channel set up and I dont need more than that. The cost for the avm 70 is just too high for features I won’t use.

@gianfrancocastellano601 Год назад

Thank you for clearing up some of the confusion and doing this much appreciated! So I have the MRX 1140 with an external seven channel power amp and after running calibration, arc sets speakers at 79-80 db especially on my front stage ( confirmed with a secondary SPL, mic ) ? Why not 75 db and should I lower it in my trim?

@Audioholics Год назад

As long as all the speakers match it doesn't matter. It just means you will be at higher than reference level if your master vol is set to the same position during your listening.

@timthetoolman5522 Год назад

I keep looking for a compelling reason to upgrade from my Marantz 8802A to the AVM 90. I was hoping to find that here. But a list of tech upgrades to an engineer tells them very little. Top of the line DACs, 6 layer PCB, regulators, ... so what? And then just minutes into the video Theo talked about how fantastic the AVM 90 is for two channels, but how he didn't hear the "magic" until using just 2 channels. Who in their right mind would buy a 15.4 prepro to use it as a two channel prepro? I am fairly new to high end audiophile equipment, so perhaps I am not the target here. But if you guys want to pull people like me into the fold, it would really help if you produced a single video that started with basics of how to setup a really good sound system for its intended use. Is a sound system intended mainly for great home theater the same as if the main use is to listen to music? What if you want to use the system for both HT and music? What if the main music listened to is classical vs rock? When do I need a 15.4 system and when do I really only need a good stereo system? If I get the 15.4 and set it up as 9.3, how do I use the AVM 90 to optimally listen to stereo music? The retailers and producers who come up with this type of guide will win a lot of customers, IMHO. Today what we mostly have is discussions of technology, and subtle nudges to buy more speakers, better DACs, more subs, better room correction. None of that is useful if the customer doesn't even know how to buy / use the gear to watch a movie vs listen to "Start Me Up". Once all of these questions have been answered, then it is time to introduce concepts of interference, phase, room correction etc. So, just my opinion. I've got a 9.2 system soon to be a 9.3 system. Mainly used for rock music. Do I replace the Marantz 8802A with an AVM 90? I know that I should get better room correction, but I can do a pretty good job of that with a good, calibrated mic and associated SW. It is a lot of work though. And handling 3 subs for phase issues is a big problem that I don't know what package will solve. Any feedback on my specific situation would be appreciated. But I assume that I am not alone.

@Audioholics Год назад

The AVM90 is a significant upgrade to the Marantz AV8802. The fact that it's so good in 2CH is a testament to the quality. It's harder to discern differences in processors with all speakers playing due to masking issues in how we hear mutlltiple sound sources playing.

@googleuser1522 5 месяцев назад

I have a Minidsp but it sounds like I can remove it from my setup when I install my Anthem AVM 70 this week? I trust you guys so if you say so, I’ll do it.

@ass2mouthallday 6 дней назад

Yeah just get rid of the mini, this is all you need.

@dorianellerbe7004 4 месяца назад

I have two subwoofers placed in the rear of the room. Is there a way to have ARC aware of this orientation during calibration?

@ass2mouthallday 6 дней назад

It doesn't really matter. Arc knows there are subs in the room and will calibrate from wherever they are.

@jeremyj. Год назад

I could have sworn The drop down menu says the amp can be reassigned to the height channels. Has that changed now? Am I stuck with the class D for my heights?

@Audioholics Год назад

You can't re-assign ALL of the linear amps to height channels. So you're still forced to use the Class D amps on some of the heights.

@jeremyj. Год назад

@@Audioholics does that mean that the centre channel can’t be reassigned to a height? And/or height 3 can’t be assigned the amps?

@christiano3254 Год назад

Hello, I own an anthem avm 70 and have the problem that I always have +6db roomgain when calibrating. At first I thought it was because of the room / I moved and have +6dB roomgain again and can't explain this to myself - I use an Anthem AVM 70 and an Anthem MCA 525 power amplifier with arendal 1723 speakers - can it be that the microphone is defective? Do I have to set anything in Windows? I'm pretty perplexed why this is so - can't explain it to me Christian

@christiano3254 Год назад

The mesurement is wiht 90db very loud too - dont find the mistake

@Fatewillgivein 2 месяца назад

I have the exact same issues with an AVM-90. My room gain is set to +6db after ARC correction. We appreciate if you could address this question.

@keithiegee1 Год назад

Question, as you guys love a miniDSP and Anthem's ARC, what's the best option for 2 subs with a AVM70 / 4 subs and a AVM90 Use 1 sub preout and mindsp, or Use all sub preouts and let ARC do tune the subs?

@Audioholics Год назад

Use ARC without mDSP, tweak the settings and see how it sounds. You shouldn't need mDSP anymore.

@BatteryAz1z Год назад

If you have a minidsp, using multiple sub outs just adds complexity without any benefit. My general advice is use 1 sub out, do your measurements and calibrate the optimal delays etc, set a rough EQ that gets rid of any major peaks,, run room correction, and then fine tune EQ as you see fit.

@kyleo2113 Год назад

Anthem recommends running on board sub room correction prior to ARC. I have played with and without using Minidsp and have decided that Anthem gets it close enough to remove the minidsp from the chain YMMV

@Samzep Год назад

Hi scott once you have run arc and phase and uploaded it if you make adjustments after you should always rerun phase again ? That other guy was wrong you should make all your adjustments tweaks then run phase

@BhavikPatelhr Год назад

Hi, great video, thanks for the info. Can anyone help me to understand how to do phase alignment in home theatre setup like 5.1.2. using denon x4700h

@SnowBob302 Год назад

What a class act from Scott recommending people to check out their local dealers if they have them.

@Paxmax Год назад

Hahaha! 😆 Blake, relax! No need to flex!! Yer among friends! 🤣

@c.a.r.specialistofamerica8613 4 месяца назад

Does ARC have PEQ? Does anyone know?

@Audioholics 4 месяца назад

No it doesn't

@Paxmax Год назад

Oooh dayym! It has 2nd zone n all too. So... I can be cookn wiff audio

@xaviersreview1827 Год назад

With all the things I heard about ARC, I was over excited to buy the AVM 70. I bought and returned it. From now on, I am only buying systems that give full manual control. I don’t believe in any automatic system. REW + manual setup + your ears = the best.

@geraldhilderink5686 Год назад

Sadly, no Auro-3D support. Like many, I cannot install ceiling speakers, only wall mounted speakers. Manual only shows the support for Atmos.

@Audioholics Год назад

Atmos supports on wall speakers as well. Auro is a dead format so you should be setting up your system for Atmos.

@geraldhilderink5686 Год назад

@@Audioholics Where did you get that information? Atmos does not specify wall mounted speakers in their specs. Also, Anthem does not specify wall mounted speakers in their manuals. D&M does however specify wall mounted speakers for Atmos, but no word on how it supports Atmos. Basically, receivers that support Auro-3D also support Atmos with wall mounted speakers. They also support Auro-3D which sounds amazing. Auro-3D is not a dead format yet, but I understand what you mean.

@Audioholics Год назад

@Gerald Hilderink Anthem supports front and back on-wall speakers foe heights. I've heard this speaker configuration @Audioadvice and it works.

@TheoNicolakis Год назад

@@geraldhilderink5686 in the ARC Genesis setup menu for the AVM 90 you can specify on-wall or in-wall for height channels. The great news is yes it’s an option to have a 7.x.4 setup with front or rear on-wall or in-wall speaker layouts on the Anthem.

@bigdogaxis Год назад

Anthem and Atmos/DTS:X sound great with on wall heights which is what I use because I refuse to cut holes in my ceiling.

@Samzep Год назад

Nick rumdum did you hear what he said no need for rew at all when using arc lol listen and learn niko 😮

@Dave30867 Год назад

Its over the top for average families cmon . I have an 9.2 receiver and i only have three front and one sub that is enough for me. my power bill has lowered by 15 % im ok with that.

@erod9088 Год назад

Dirac is far superior in numerous ways, especially with D-ART on the way. This was more of an infomercial.

@Audioholics Год назад

Dirac is more powerful but much more challenging to get right. ART isn't proven yet but I am one of the first to adopt and test via Storm Audio. ARC Genesis works well with little fuss.

@Samzep Год назад

All so there huge problem with phase i have tested on many units and different houses if you run phase in main listening position where it should be run and then run again straight after you get different phase numbers that to me is pathetic and so inaccurate

@Audioholics Год назад

I haven't seen this issue in my tests and the "pathetic" comment is a bit much.

@Samzep Год назад

@@Audioholics look I love Rc but when I see things like this and it’s not a cheap product, it really upsets me. I guarantee you you have never tried this test. I put any money on it run Rc then phase upload it leave mic in exact same position and rerun phase and i guarantee it will not be the same phase numbers

@Audioholics Год назад

@@Samzep I'll look into it.

@Samzep Год назад

@@Audioholics ok thanks.basically example if the phase is 80 on one sub say 110 on the other then you run it again straight after with no adjustments and mic in same phase position it should phase them same 80 and 110 but trust me it doesn’t so if thats the case which phase is correct see what i mean very frustrating

@Audioholics Год назад

@James Andersen its possible your room has a very high RT60 and the long decays at bass frequencies can be tricking it up.

@mrdan1210 Год назад

Pointless video, no deep dive into Arc whatsoever.

@Audioholics Год назад

What's Arc?

@Samzep Год назад

Agree

@isaaccraig3666 Год назад

Two questions: AVM60 only Why are speaker levels off after calibration? Ie - 70dB to sometimes 79dB? I always have to reset levels to 75dB post ARC? Second question: Why are my REW sweeps post ARC Cal, VERY... different to what the ARC pdf shows ? ARC shows a smooth response with little dips and peaks REW shows the truth. Large peaks and dips post ARC cal Is ARC faking its EQ?

@Audioholics Год назад

Depends on resolution you have set in REW. ARC is 1/12th Oct I believe. Try smoothing your graph in REW accordingly.

@isaaccraig3666 Год назад

I suspected arc was using smoothing . Good to know. Considering upgrading to an avm70