Anzu Robotics - The DJI Alternative 

You know bricks are easy to throw.

I hope that they do but Skydio doesn’t sell to civilians anymore!

You are absolutely correct! I make a living with my DJI fleet, congress doesn't take these things in consideration.

The sad thing is I saw a video on the Ben and it started out with the guy who made skydio drones

You guys will be able to use the drones you already own.

35%

Ikr. The thermal version is over $2,000 more. That’s a not just a “little bit” pricier

The price is fine...it's a flex when you break it out 😂

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I wouldn't call them copycat versions. They are licensing the product design from dji.

@@Ernest.J I've seen a few interviews with the CEO and read a lot about Anzu recently. I believe they are a retailer who will sell to anyone.

A 2000% percent agree my friend. This is what you called a watered-down drone just to say is made in America. Terrible I would never in my life on one of these drums

Couldn't agree more. There is no basis for the attempt to ban. Period. This is driven by the competition who is not actual competition.

No, what all US based MFG want is for CHYNA to remove the ban on foreign drones being sold in CHYNA as well as levies on Chinese drones that have had de facto state backing from fund state investment funds and on Chinese monopolies and large entities in the drone business that dump product to harm competition in violation of WTO rules.

What USA made Drones? I bought the Skydio 2, then they went to enterprise and no longer deals with the Public!

​@@alacazaba I can't find any information about a Chinese ban of American drones. I also can't Imagine why Somebody in China would want an American drone when Chinese drones are Better and cheaper.

@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 article 12, subchapter 3, surveying mapping law, People's Republic of China. Please name one Chinese manufacturer that produces an optically navigating uas under 2kg that has 4g cellular data linkage, or one that is under 2kg with a swappable payload? No Chinese drones have been approved for BVLOS in the US or Europe, yet many European, American, and even Japanese ones have. If they have the superior drone, why are they being beat in all these techinical areas? Furthermore, there are no Chinese sensor manufacturers that produce products for UAV that offered as technically advanced sensors as you find from american, european, and Japanese manufacturers. For example, DJI just released an HD thermal system, it's a sensor package that's been available in the US for 10 years. If you're just buying kiddy toys, it's understandable that you'd think that

Great comments, questions, and reflections! It will be interesting to see how those specific details get laid out if the bill continues to progress.

The entire basis of the bill is to kill the market share DJI has over the bill sponsor's donors, Skydio and their officers, who want to make inroads into the US market. It's a bunch of back door deals. I hate the situation, and I hate the fact that some republicans sponsored the bill. This is normally something from the D. playbook. I don't have a horse in this race, other than for recreational use, but I have already voiced and opposed this bill and written all my representatives. This is shit move by congress.

Remember the old USSR that banned everything from the West? That's what we're turning into

Karma is infamous! LOL

If this is the only acceptable alternative to dji, companies that need a drone will be forced to pay the higher price, this drone manufacturer will be very profitable.

War aren't cheap.

it's called "getting money from captive suckers" nobody cares about "privacy" they all care about who is accessing your "privacy" and US want to be the only player in that area.

Yeah, good luck with that. TikTok basically offered the same and still Congress banned them.

The dream for people with money and not the average American hobbyist.

Great insight! It will definitely be interesting to learn more about this company and their drones in the coming months.

100% there are even DJI labeled parts inside. There is also custom silicon from DJI - you cannot buy this, it can only be licensed from DJI if you have access to a fab to make the chips.

That price point seems like a pretty big difference, too

@@skyranger187 they don't have the economy of scale behind them to produce at a lower cost once they sell more the prices are sure to come down...

Interesting thoughts! And agreed, a lot of police and emergency service pilots are strongly against the DJI ban.

Agree

Them pesky Chinese been spyin’ on my dog as I video him runnin’ at the beach from mah drone. I’m mad as Hell and I’m not gonna fake it no more! Thanks to the brave Rep. Elise Stefanik for protection’ our national security! Sure, she’s accepting payoffs from domestic competitors, but who among us haven’t been corrupted? That’s US politics at its finest. Because ‘Murica!

There's a bill in place that could ban DJI drones from all U.S. citizens.

It will definitely be interesting to check on all of the aspects you noted!

Never doubt the governments ability to do something stupid.

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The bill is out of committee and on the way to the Senate. So... there you go.

@@ElChingonFPV Chuckles, oh boy you know how to half-ass regurgitate what you've heard.

@@besomewheredosomething I read the bill. Checked the Congressional bill tracking tab on Congress’ website (with a summary of the bill). I have worked with federal regulations since graduating law school in 2005 and often reference the summary of proposed laws and track them in real time using the site. It is fact that it has been sent to Senate. Not sure how that vote will go but probably not well since the drone bill is attached to defense spending.

They're making a terrible entrance by overcharging for a copy of a drone possibly to banned! Guess if you can't BEAT them BAN them! American drone consumers are potentially being screwed because American drone makers couldn't compete! Ugly entrance!

He was the DJI Enterprise brand manager before he was at Autel!

Randall Warnas If I'm remembering correctly. Expecting an American made product for the same price as the Chinese manufactured product is unrealistic. On top of the cost of producing the drone they also have to pay the license fee to DJI And the cost of developing the software.

@@jerseyshoredroneservices225 Here's what I want...Freedom to CHOOSE the product that I want to buy. That use to be an American value. No one should be forced to pay for a lesser product or higher prices because the government is using the "Can't beat em so ban em" strategy."

@@frankc.9853 I agree, that's what I want too. But the reason that we're having trouble getting what we want isn't the fault of Anzu it's the fault of skydio, their lobbyists and politicians like Elise stefanic. Don't blame Anzu for offering us a workaround.

That's great to hear! It does seem like a good business model and almost acts as a loophole if the ban gets pushed through. And it would be nice if they do produce other drones as well!

It’s 100% a loophole.

It looks like they haven't begun selling the Raptor series to everyone but you can submit some information on a form to see if it's right for you. You can check out more information here: www.anzurobotics.com/

Not sure if there are plans to reduce the price at all, but that is what it looks like at the moment.

To our knowledge, there are currently no proposals to compensate DJI drone owners if the ban is placed in effect. Anzu was founded in early April so it's a very new company (from the public viewpoint). I'm assuming they will begin to produce lower level models like the Air and mini line, especially if the the Raptor series does well.

They will still cost 35% more than the DJI Air and Mini.

Would you still buy the American one at 1.5x the price of the reputable Chinese one?

That's the problem, Pirate, the US version will not be as good and it will be more expensive. This is US capitalism trying to push out a company and product they cannot compete with. As a US citizen, I am thoroughly bullshit over this and wanna know what my government is going to do to ban ALL ITEMS manufactured in China. I mean, they're gonna spy on us no matter what, so what's to stop them from putting little devices in all the other goodies shipped and sold here? This whole thing is SO stupid and baseless.

If they produced clones of any of the minis and they followed the same pricing scheme as the Raptor, then I would expect a Mini 4 Pro clone to be around $1400, Mini 3 Pro about $1100, and Mini 4K to be $450-$500. I don't know what the Mini 3 is selling for but just take that number and multiply it by 1.5x

Anzu emerged in early April so we don't have much information on if and when they will create other drones and if the price points will continue to be higher than DJI's current drones.

Unfortunately, if the ban goes through, it applies for everyone.

That was a different ban this one is a bill by Elise stefanic in New York that would tax them to oblivion before completely banning them. There is also a bill that would disallow them the FCC licence that's needed. I'm not sure if it's the same bill or a different one

If this goes through we won't be able to register those drones. There would also be an embargo on them so anybody who ships it here will be taking a risk of it never arriving to the purchaser. The FCC license would be revoked too I'm not sure if there's any way they can stop them from working but it would be a crime to use them. May not be able to get insurance for using an illegal product and may not be able to get some customers if they ask about the product we're using

It will be interesting to see if the prices decrease at all.

It's being driven mostly by skydio and other whining drone manufacturers who can't compete with dji. They've hired "experts" to create this false idea of security concerns and paid lobbyists to get the message out to politicians. Politicians are happy to invent a problem or even pretend that there is a problem so they can pretend to fix it as if they're doing something useful.

Yep! Hope the price decreases as more models get released!

Hopefully it decreases with future models!

​@@uavcoachwhy would it? Oh, right, competition. No, wait, they outlawed that.

The Government said "you are nothing but a slave, all you money belong to us"

They're made in Malaysia....

Anzu is a "few guys" who set everything up but they're not making anything. The drones are made and assembled in Malaysia Anzu purchased a license from DJI for the technology and is doing all the stuff to have them produced, shipped, loaded with software and distributed, along with all the business stuff. You know the liability, taxes, lawyers, marketing, all that crap...

It's like DJI "green card"! kkkk

Due to the increasing political tensions between the US and China, many popular Chinese companies are being targeted and scrutinized as potentially being privacy and security risks to the US. The President just signed a bill into law requiring that TikTok either be sold to a US company within a year, otherwise access for US users will be disabled. I can understand the concerns over TikTok, because if you actually read the permissions it has and the ToS, things start to look a little creepy. There is evidence that is activated your microphone even while your phone is locked, that it take your eye movement to see where exactly on the screen you're looking, and it has access to look at just about everything on your phone, as well as a great deal of information that is on any network that your phone is connected to. Roof could be a major security concern if a Senator's child has TikTok want they use the same home wifi without any internal network firewalls, then theoretically if the CCP was working with TikTok, they could easily gain access to the Senator's phone and computer and see much of the data on each, and this is all subtly implied in the ToS that users have agreed to by creating a TikTok account. Furthermore, a much more direct threat could be something like the CCP using TikTok to influence the opinions of young Americans or even sway elections. Since the proprietary algorithm that determines what videos are down to users is highly guarded secret, the CCP could utilize that to spread propaganda and misinformation to Americans. So when the house and Senate move to ban those kinds of companies I can understand the rationale, even if the constitutionality is questionable. However with DJI, to me it seems more about sending a message to China and stepping on their toes a little by banking an extremely popular Chinese company. I can't imagine that they could acquire any additional data from the flights of recreational civilian pilots that they can't already acquire from Google maps. I understand banning law enforcement and government use because they might be flying in sensitive locations, but a blanket ban for the whole country seems excessive. Anyway, that's the reasoning that they're operating on. DJI will just be one of many Chinese companies eventually banned out of overzealous security concerns, until we finally just end up getting involved in a proxy war with China over Taiwan, just as we're in a proxy war with Russia right now using the Ukraine as the battlefield. But hey, the good news is that this probably triggers the start of WW3, with the BRICS Alliance vs the NATO Powers, and then any silly drone laws won't matter anymore and you can fly whatever you want however you want. *TL;DR:* increasing political tensions and paranoia with China, leading to privacy and security concerns presented by the widescale presence of certain Chinese companies in the US and the data collection being done by their products or services.

After moving to ban TikTok in the US, the federal government could target the China-based DJI next. Aa bill advanced by the House of Energy and Commerce Committee last month that could ground DJI’s fleet of drones across the country. If passed, the Countering CCP Drones Act would add DJI drones to the FCC’s list of equipment covered by the Secure and Trusted Communications Networks Act of 2019. This bars communications equipment or services that “pose a national security risk” from running on US networks. It also prevents companies from using federal funding to purchase banned equipment. Chinese companies such as Huawei and ZTE are already included on the FCC’s list.

They haven't gotten banned yet. For national security risks.

a mix of paranoia and protectionism due to the US inability to compete fairly on the world markets

​@@dn8598well said! I'd be happy to buy an American drone if it wasn't prohibitively expensive, as refined and as Cutting Edge as DJI products. As it stands us drones can't hold a candle to DJI products, and the fact is the Enterprise products save lives. That's not something that anyone should compromise on.

Not sure! Most likely if they make more drones, they will make their own goggles to go along with it.

It seems Anzu's drones are made in Malaysia.

Made in Malaysia and as far as I know the bills seeking to ban certain drones are for country of origin (China)

Anzu Isn't behind the bill's seeking to ban the drones, that would be SKYDIO. The drones cost more because it's not possible to produce them cheaper than China does. On top of production they have to first send parts to Malaysia, then send the drones to the US, develop the software and..... Pay the licensing fee to DJI.

How exactly is Anzu going to take over when it's product is licensed directly from dji? They haven't created anything original they're just creating a work around to the potential us ban.

At a $2000 higher price tag for the exact same thing, and they're made in Malaysia....

I would mode your comment up 1000 if I could. I'm not even in the USA and the stupid DJI geo fence crap is harsher then existing sub250 regulations to fly a mini - there is NO legal need for mftr auth zones and being it is just software, should be able to disable NFZ, ALT.

Build one yourself, it’s not that difficult, just need to learn how to solder, which is a good skill to have in general.

Hopefully the prices decrease with future models!

So far they've only launched the Raptor and the Raptor T, so we'll see if/when they start releasing other models!