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AOC AG274QXM Review - 1440p 170Hz MiniLED IPS GAMING MONITOR!

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This is an actual, real life, ready-to-buy, Mini LED gaming monitor! It’s honestly incredible, it’s vibrant and blindingly bright, remarkably fast and responsive, but it’s unusable for me. This is the AOC AG274QXM, a 1440p 170Hz IPS gaming monitor with a Mini LED backlight, adaptive sync, HDR1000, 10 bit colour, and a £1000 price tag - and a few key flaws that I just cannot understand why they are here. Let me explain.
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@ash36230 2 года назад

Thumbnail pretty sums up my feelings trying to find a monitor and finding shortcomings with each one that would impact me in different ways

@CoCo.-_- 2 года назад

just don't think about HDR anytime soon imho unless going QD-OLED, otherwise you are always going to see so many downsides

@ccjh0806 2 года назад

Try the Alienware AW2721D. I tried 5 other monitors before this one and it's very well rounded with few compromises. Gsync ultimate too which is more important than ppl think

@michaelthompson9798 2 года назад

I’m sick of seeing 1ms display BS by PR departments ….. they’ll start using terms as: - turn off your monitor and call it “Low Power Mode”, - Oversaturated colours are “Vibrant” gamer effects, - a monitor stand will be renamed as an “ergonomic stand” that increases productivity etc - 2w speakers as a “Awesome immersion soundbar” 🤦‍♀🤦🤦‍♂💩💩💩💩💩💩

@PeeVeeCee Год назад

Edit: I have the monitor for 1.5 months now. I use it for office and gaming (10h per day) and have no issues at all with the high frequency PWM backlight. The power adapter is quite huge, but it doesn't make any noise at all. Overall a really really good monitor! HDR is just amazing (apart from a little "afterglow" of moving bringt elements on dark background). --- Both my Galaxy S22 and my previous S10 have OLED screens that use PWM at a much lower frequency (240Hz). I never recognized any issues with that. I didnt even notice it was there. How are the chances i also dont have any problems with that screen which even "flickers" at a MUCH higher rate (which should even be less noticeable?)? I read that it strongly depends on the user if its a problem or not. I mean, AOC certainly has had a lot of testers on that screen. I cannot believe this is a common issue for a lot of people.

@ameserich Год назад

It could be purely psychological, he saw on the colorometer that its PWM and suddenly went "OH MY GOD!!! IT USES PWM? THIS IS COMPLETELY UNUSABLE" yknow guys like that exist allover the net... Realistically speaking, 720+hz is a requirement and 1440hz is pretty much Flicker Free. 5760hz would be in Eye Care level

@GeordiLaForgery 2 года назад

Sounds like it's using PWM (pulse width modulation) for the backlight which is common on TV's. A good PC monitor should use DC (direct current) for flicker free backlight.

@chubbysumo2230 2 года назад

The fact that it's adding in a white frame and a black frame, tells me that it's using the same type of driver as a TV. Sounds like they wanted to be the first to Market with a mini LED monitor, and instead of making custom boards for it, they used the same board that would be driving a much larger living room TV. If you look at reviews of mini LED TVs on the market, headaches and eye strain are a very common issue with them, because they all use pwm backlight modulation. It makes me wonder if mini LEDs can use DC voltage variation to change their brightness, or if they have to use pwm, because for some reason they can't do DC voltage variation? Ewm is just telling the light to pulse on or off, and always at full brightness.

@GeordiLaForgery 2 года назад

@@chubbysumo2230 I think it should be possible with mini-led but it's so expensive to implement that manufacturers won't bother for the time being. I would never use a PC monitor unless it's flicker free certified, I've tried using a sony tv as a monitor in the past and got headaches and strained eyes.

@GSBarlev 2 года назад

If it's intentional PWM dimming then they cheaped out--to be "flicker free" usually requires PWM dimming to strobe in the 10 kHz range, not 1 kHz.

@Vextime77 2 года назад

It's using PWM for its back light, bad for eyestrain.

@khalednafea8512 Год назад

@TechteamGB Update 22 April 2023 - AOC did later release a firmware update to speed up the backlight operation and also help reduce haloing further although we’ve not had chance to re-test that. there is notice on tftcentral website about aoc releasing the firmware to fix it guess but i can't be sure i don't have it and surely doubtful to do so with this issue

@dynastes4938 2 года назад

Sounds to me like the monitor is employing PWM as a method of dimming the backlight. Most modern LCDs refrain from this, but that one obviously does not. Have you tested whether the flickering seizes at a setting of 100 % brightness? Often times it will with this sort of technique being used. Not saying that this would make the display any more usable, SDR brightness will probably be way too high for comfortable use at maximum value. Anyway, a firmware update cannot correct this issue (at least not to my knowledge), since the method of dimming the backlight is determined on a hardware level (and has nothing to do with local dimming in particular, but with the implementation of the backlight unit as a whole - shame on the AOC official for talking nonsense). Everyone sensitive to flicker will therefore not be wanting to buy this monitor, though it has to be said that not everyone notices PWM-based backlight regulation when the pulsing frequency is sufficiently high.

@GSBarlev 2 года назад

PWM dimming *can* be fine, but not at 1kHz. I build my own soft boxes and "false window" light panels (using the optical layers and metal casings from broken TVs), and I almost always use PWM dimming because it's more power efficient and better for the LEDs. But the frequency for those is 10kHz+. And that's just for static illumination!

@jennytaliya531 2 года назад

6khz should bé fine for this particular monitor.

@joeyho7860 2 года назад

Any updates in firmware that solves the issues you have been mentioning with PWM?

@or1on89 2 года назад

I read from TFT Central that AOC was going to address the odd PWM behaviour with a firmware update. It would be interesting to investigate and see if they deliver on this front. It's a shame for the locked sRGB mode though, this makes this monitor not suitable for colour critical work. This is something they could address as well.

@Momo-ex9tv 2 года назад

I own this monitor for 2 weeks now and i can tell that mine has no pwm issues

@mohammadahmedragab837 2 года назад

@@Momo-ex9tv please, what is your review of the monitor based on your usage? I am about to buy it this week and your review is very important

@user-ee9lj2fn7j Год назад

this monitor has an unusual drawback, some have mentioned flickering with a seemingly large PWM, so I figured out the problem - the connectors that have been in the warehouse for many years need to be cleaned with an alcohol wipe and a piece of a plastic card, the result will be very pleased!

@AeroDr 2 года назад

The PWM backlight is a deal-breaker for me...The Ghastly PWM flicker on the LG 34WK95U was bad enough that I couldn't look at it for more than 5 minutes...Hopefully the AG274QGM has a PWM-free backlight...

@stufzor2985 2 года назад

have the same monitor but no PWM problems at all

@residentCJ Год назад

Any Update on the PWM Flickering ? Does the FW Update eliminate it ?

@Overonator 2 года назад

Funny how in the olden days CRT monitors set to low refresh rates say like 60 hz were bad and many of us could see the flicker and just couldn't take it, but image blur was not an issue. And then LCD monitors came out and the nature of the display meant that there was no flicker at 60 hz but there was a ton of blur as the pixels couldn't transition fast enough to avoid it. And with this AOC LED monitor we are back to the annoying flicker of low refresh rate CRT monitors. Now that's irony.

@josipreponj1928 2 года назад

Now you get both flicker and blur. And that is with any intentionally or non-intentionally strobed LCD. Plus the crosstalk :D. Advanced technology they say.

@dynastes4938 2 года назад

Well, actually PWM dimming, as a method for brightness regulation and as obviously employed here, was very common with LCD display for a very long time. In recent years manufacturers have stepped away from this method and the marketing term of "flickerfree displays" has become popular. So no, the switch to LCDs did not get rid of that issue outright. That being said, a modern monitor should not use PWM dimming anymore.

@josipreponj1928 2 года назад

@@dynastes4938 Agreed! Brightness should never be controlled with pulse length but pulse height. If this really is caused by PWM I don't know why they chose to go that direction because there is no real reason to, I hope. Usually at maximum brightness setting there should be no flickering. He must of tested this with something bellow max. But still, this is a big no for 2022 display, especially at that price point. In my opinion LCDs need to go. They will, soon. Its just a matter of time.

@wii1mii 2 года назад

I wonder if AG274QGM will also have the flicker issue.

@Zicrixdoesart Год назад

1 year later and still no 1440p mini led options other than the cooler master....

@wreckedcarzz 2 года назад

Re: the huge power brick. I have the same one... For my Predator Helios 500 (AMD 2700/Vega 56), and it does pull up to 300W (and the battery alone cannot sustain the system under heavy loads - gta v maxed out runs great, unplug it and it throttles to about 5fps for about 10 seconds and then dies). Really weird choice for power delivery, but I guess they had extras and so, why not, heh.

@D00ML0RD1 2 года назад

I just wish one of these game companys would make a good 1440p HDR monitor. Cuase right now theres only 1 good hdr monitor and its 5grand

@Maxi23543 11 месяцев назад

whitch monitor are you talking about?

@D00ML0RD1 11 месяцев назад

@Maxi23543 much older comment i i dont even remember it was a samsung Oled Ultra wide it was the only Oled monitor at the time its release price was 4800 or something like. Now we have a few goodnoptions int the 1000 range

@akaChriss4L 2 года назад

I'm shocked the monitor is 550€ right now on Amazon!

@NedimTabakovic Год назад

Hi, thanks for review, what 27” monitor would you recommend? I have few options this you are strongly against 😃 LG 27GP95R BenQ EX2710U Sony Inzone M9 Not much of a choice in my area 🥺

@user-gl5sl3bs9f 9 месяцев назад

No words about hdr content and how it looks

@SizzlingStu 2 года назад

Love the comment about not wanting to use HDR on a PC. I never use it, I have it on 2 monitors and an OLED TV and it just makes everything look fake 'plasticy' and unrealistic.

@corzabourne2101 2 года назад

what oled tv ?

@SizzlingStu 2 года назад

@@corzabourne2101 LG C9 65”. It’s not only this model. You only need to look at the display models in shops to see most (not all) HDR content looks fake, sort of over exposed.

@SparrowPOV 2 года назад

You mean in windows? What about in games?

@SizzlingStu 2 года назад

@@SparrowPOV I mean in games also

@D00ML0RD1 2 года назад

@@SizzlingStu The good HDR stuff is all hella expensive the only good monitor for HDR is 5000(USD) and the good HDR tvs set around 2500(USD). The plasticy effect cuased by a lack of dimming zones the Asus pro art(5000USD one) has something like 1100 zones on a 32inch screen it comes out to somethin like each dimming zones 2cm^2. Theres also the fact tvs & monitors use differnt groups for HDR certification displayHDR(monitor) and HDR10plus(tv). Hdr10+ requirements are super easy to fill as ive seen tvs that are 55inch with 48 zone make the cut. Were as DisplayHDR a mixed bag You have HDR10 which just means it can execpt the signal HDR 400 certified( crappy but better avoid like the plague) HDR 600 about what a TV is on most account - local dimming HDR 1000 the good shit when done right HDR 1400 very few monitors have this and all of them are around 3 grand

@motorenbenzinvergaserkraft9166 Год назад

Hi, I bought this monitor recently and I actually like it, I am sure no one will ever notice that flickering. There's actually one thing which is almost a dealbreaker and it's DIFFERENT in your video, When in HDR mode, the backlight never goes completely off, it's like 1-2% on at least, so the perfect black just isn't there. I get it, I do, it's an IPS and the native contrast isn't just good enough. Was the monitor in the video capable of fully switching the LED in HDR blacks or my monitor is doing it weird?

@jonathaningram8157 Год назад

Don’t assume people can’t notice flickers because you cannot. I always see stuff that apparently nobody else sees and it makes finding the right screen a nightmare. 😢

@motorenbenzinvergaserkraft9166 Год назад

@@jonathaningram8157 i pretty much understand you, I've changed a few oled tvs because of the DSE and tinting people around me just didn't notice and didn't take it seriously. But considering that flicker, it's 1920hz, and that number is just so high, it's practically unnoticeable. I mean, flagship Samsung Tvs all flicker on 960hz, which is twice worse, and no one cares. This reviewer simply heard the word "flicker", got scared, measured it himself, and got scared second time by the numbers he measured.

@Aelron Год назад

Do you recommend the AOC AG274QXM monitor for purchase or not?

@motorenbenzinvergaserkraft9166 Год назад

@@Aelron If you're ok with poor IPS native contrast, yes. Otherwise I'd save for an OLED. I'm buying C2 anyway.

@Aelron Год назад

@@motorenbenzinvergaserkraft9166 I'm interested in the HDR mode, is it done well or poorly in this monitor?(AOC AG274QXM)

@OriginalRaveParty 2 года назад

AGONY 😳

@nuttyjawa 2 года назад

interesting on some of the issues - my Samsung G9 has alot of these issues too, and turning off local dimming does fix it - are these running Samsung panels per chance? It's terrible how bad the high end monitor market has become, prices higher than OLEDs and always waiting on firmware updates

@SolarianStrike 2 года назад

AOC is most likely using an Innolux IPS panel.

@TechteamGB 2 года назад

They are apparently using an LG LCD layer and a custom mini led backlight - twitter.com/gouki201/status/1481247671843430400

@antmanfersil 2 месяца назад

Either this guy is EXTREMELY sensitive to the pwm flicker or is overreacting A LOT. I had problems with pwm flicker in the past, but the 1920mhz in this monitor is way too fast to be noticed. It will NOT be a problem for like 95% of people. What it's not overreacting is the size of both the stand and the power brick.

@m.f.5900 2 года назад

Hey, will you be testing AG274UXP? I'm looking for a PS5 monitor - the LG GP950-B is already available, but I'm waiting for any tests on the AG274UXP. M

@sears62 2 года назад

6:18 yeah that’s fucking unacceptable to me. Same reason I returned M1 iPad so that I can get previous gen with no insane bloom/backlight zone at all. Never plan on buying a strobing monitor either.

@ahmadsultankadir1 2 года назад

What is best use monitor 4K HDR with Mini LED at 8-bit or 10-bit colors? I mean to watch the movie with HDR or play games with HDR. I saw there a soon coming monitor model 4K HDR Mini-LED got only 8-bit.

@ahmadsultankadir1 2 года назад

I can not arabic, even if i try translate sometime get wrong translate. So i don't want be misunderstand, So please write on english. Thank you

@Faisal-SR 2 года назад

@@ahmadsultankadir1 But your name Arabic 100% 😂😂 For that I think you Arabic

@Faisal-SR 2 года назад

@@ahmadsultankadir1 No monitor gaming high refresh rate have true 10bit panel all 8bit+frc No monitor have glossy or metal build even flagship monitor

@ahmadsultankadir1 2 года назад

@@Faisal-SR I see now. Well i am not sure if that really in fact. I don't know much about HDR for TV or monitor HDR. Maybe this year they make real true 10bit. Example a new technology Mini LED + HDR look much better than before 2020 year TV HDR and monitor HDR.

@nestaash 2 года назад

it will be interesting to see how the 300hz version to this monitor works out but as far as i know they will all have a gsync module which are of better quality in general that gsync computable monitors.

@dynastes4938 2 года назад

There will be a G-Sync module, but those have nothing to do with the basic backlight.

@ProtoType4588 2 года назад

i do wonder about the flickering but as far as it goes with hdr im running hdr daily as that were one of the drives that got me to windows 11 autohdr became a must for me and while generally i lost some colors when changing to hdr i solved it by upping the digital vibrance in nvidia settings and now its perfect as far as blinding light goes wel...my monitor goes into the 600's and 950 peaks even in sdr i got the c49rg90 and for me it seems to actually be more pleasant if the monitor is so bright i always keep it at a 100% basically sdr is dead to me

@jonathaningram8157 Год назад

Thoughts that screen looked good. But not local dimin in sdr is plain stupid and I’m also sensitive to flickers. Guess I will wait longer.

@Petoj87 11 месяцев назад

Did they ever solve the flickering issue with a new firmware?

@chuck2501 2 года назад

Dang! Thanks for this review, This monitor on paper hit every check box I had. Now I'll wait, save and get a Samsung Odyssey I guess.

@yuriys.6352 Год назад

Actually it's strange why this monitor doesn't have hdmi 2.1.....

@goldkat94 Год назад

Dude u've tested a TrueHDR monitor with a game that isn't supporting HDR..

@markclancy5714 5 месяцев назад

got one new for 400 quid, is there better options at that price point for a hdr screen?

@Jamie-ni4fu Месяц назад

The only other one i can think of is the AOC Q27G3XMN

@ErgonomicChair Год назад

15:27 are you trying to say Aourus??? AUR-US. Aur-Us. It's not Errors.

@iulixMAXgames Год назад

you don't buy this type of monitor for competitive gaming and playing 🗑️ CS go 😂🤣 this monitor is amazing for single player games and horror and games with HDR support 🤷‍♂️

@megaprime1619 2 месяца назад

I was thinking about buying it because I like horror games and movies.

@hyperkid78 2 года назад

you are definerly over reacting abit tho.. lol its obv not that bad that you have to take off the your glasses, scratch your eyes like someone spit into them...

@overnightdelivery Год назад

Funny that plain IPS is probably still the most well rounded reliable display, despite the low contrast. Given MiniLED lighting issues and OLED burn-in potential.

@GilbertoDePiento2 2 года назад

Taki kibel AOC zrobiło i jeszcze w tak kosmicznej cenie, pewnie dużo osób się teraz zrazi do AOC, Na niektórych stronach już jest napisane że produkt został wycofany, ale i tak niesmak pozostaje.

@porkysoda5899 2 года назад

I’m waiting for the cooler master iteration of this panel. For $700 instead of $1000

@Morraed 2 года назад

check AOC AG241QG - great TN without problem 1440p 165Hz | 24'' better than 27'' - 123 PPI vs 109 PPI

@newlife782 Год назад

TN? - no, thanks. + Without hdr and miniled... And 24 , not good. 27 + must be

@pindapixel 2 года назад

At a thousand pounds, for me there's no reason to go with this over the LG C1

@akaChriss4L 2 года назад

Dude that's a totally different category. Resolution, size, features are for a different category of users.

@pindapixel 2 года назад

@@akaChriss4L yes, and for me they fall in the same category; trying to utilize my current hardware to its full potential

@whiteandnerdytuba 2 года назад

Rather have a qd oled, mini led is old

@e.corphan5635 2 года назад

Youwill have to pay 4k€+ for it or $

@ahmadsultankadir1 2 года назад

I rather have QD Mini LED than QD OLED. What about QD OLED burn-in? Does that? Or not anymore?

@whiteandnerdytuba 2 года назад

@@ahmadsultankadir1 it will always have the risk of burn in. Lesser so now compared to when it first came out

@minecraftminer59mineboymin38 2 года назад

Imagine playing only 2k in 2022

@khalednafea8512 Год назад

i have health issue regard this i'm very sensitive to which gaming monitor to get specially because i don't know the medical terms i should look for on monitors and which monitors to avoid so i would have a peace of mind and enjoy my game suasions without getting dizzy or the escalation out of stuttering and blurring n what else, i would appreciate it very much if you can suggest to me monitors 2k/4k to look for and buy i would be very much greatful @TechteamGB