AoM Retold: SOTL vs Titan AI (new god Freyr) 

WRATH OF THE GODS.

its definitely viable in greek vs greek matchup. I do this a lot with zeus, go full minotaurs or centaurs.

Yup I don't know how it could be seen any other way, it clearly says "Resign", not "Let enemy resign"

It's just him acting clueless. As a non native speaker, where English is the 3rd language to learn by priority, the linguistics are pretty damn obvious. Resign is to give up. Pretty sure it was the same in aoe3. Definitely had the let resign option, pretty sure you lost if then you yourself resigned after denying.

I prefer how Total War does it. Once you win the battle you can accept that outcome or continue to fight on and mop up the fleeing army. At that point even if you get bored before completely wiping out every unit your option to "concede defeat" turns into "end the battle", or something to that effect, and you still get the win.

@@antheunis011 yeah or you could be cheeky and assume it means the "imperative" meaning of resign

they should make the AI understand 105 :)

"Aim for the trolls!"

"Shoot the arrow, not the archer." -Tzu Sun

Always bolt the bird.

Bolt the elf

Can't wait to scrutinize every detail and compare and contrast to my rose tinted view of the original game!!! Honestly I'm super pumped either way tho 😍

Playing since 2005 and yes it does for me. Sure it's different and still buggy, but I played for 11h yesterday and loved it.

@@mrurquhart9138nostalgia is overrated, just skip that and play that game.

I played it already, it is terrible imo. Visually terrain and structures look great. Sadly the units have terrible animations to "free animations pack" level. And the models look like a mobile phone compared to the crisp and good looking terrain

@@ozziey52 Nostalgia is an emotion. Skipping over it is not always easy.

He's on public beta with a texture pack, wdym?

@@franciasii2435 No he isn't, what are you talking about!?

@@MatthewTheWandereryes he is you are hallucinating, this is aoe2 de de

@@Ahmadabdal_ No, no it is not. This is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT GAME called "Age of Mythology: Retold"! What the fuck is your problem?

@@MatthewTheWanderer man if only dumbass rhymed with Matthew. WE ARE JOKING BOTH OF US

its a complicated answer. Remember, you dont just pick the unit, you also pick a god power and unique technologies in the package deal; sometimes, a less powerful myth unit ends up choser because the god offers other things that you want; a big exemple is Bragi, who's unit is good but unremarkable next to something like frost giants, but his god power is reason enough to pick him a LOT). For the unit themselves, gotta look at stats, unique abilties, and costs (both in ressource type and amount). For the two you mentioned, cyclopses are far beefier and have better damage (in a pure 1v1 no classical age unit in the game can beat a cyclops), plus they can deal with buildings well since part of the damage they deal is crush damage, but minotaurs are far more spammable (costing less favor and food, especially once upgraded) and they have AoE damage that the cyclops lack

all the stats on every unit is available in the game itself now, so you can see precisely how much hack vs crush vs pierce damage and armour and speed each unit has, but you are right if there's any bonus damage (is that even a thing in AoM?) that info isn't available.

So in the original game, cyclops special could one shot a single human unit- making it a great counter against high cost, tanky human units like elephant riders. Minotaurs are cheaper and can disrupt/stun human units with their special, making them better at meat fights. I think they removed the cyclops one shot in retold however.

in the past minotaurs has been better vs myth units and had faster attack speed , but cyclops had not only some damage and knockback but a "slow so" insta Kill ... and that part stilll is true ... much more building damage. Both units are pretty strong ... its more about the additional benefits and the god powers. Playing defensively you probably wanna have minotaurs ... if you want to destroy buildings early and stil does not have access to siege otherwise go for cyclops ... aside of that the army updates that come with cyclops are nice

Barring specialised exceptions such as scarabs (who are living battering rams), all myth units are cost effective against all human soldiers and bad against heroes. Larger melee units tend to be less good against humans because they deal part crush damage. Crush damage is good vs buildings, siege, and ships but bad against humans (who have 99% armour). It's the big difference that I like about AoM- you don't need to micro to avoid siege weapons.

lol it used to get 2x resources but now plays fair, it's just better at making decisions. It's quite a bit easier than the unfair Titan AI of the past.

@@SpiritOfTheLaw yeah. i love how AI is smarter but doesn't cheat. it feels like fair difficult challenge.

sadly, these dwarves do not fight ;-; also ROCK! AND! STOOOOONE!

Rock and stone!

@@thorveim1174 They do with Ragnarock and stone

BROOOOOCK AND STOOOONNEEE!!!!!

Rock and Stone, to the bone !

lol I get what you mean, but in the Civilization games if you win and press the option for "one..more...turn..." to play on, and then later quit the game it doesn't slap you with a Loss screen.

I think he's more confused as to why the AI asks to resign to begin with and he probably at glance assumed that the resign button gave the AI permission to resign, but the button does exactly the same thing as any other AoE game.

@@qwerty222999 He must have never played against SC2 or WC3 AI then, since it's working identically to those games.

I'm just used to Total War lately where you win a battle and can continue fighting, but once you leave it still counts as a win.

@@SpiritOfTheLaw I'd definetely love to see you play Divide and Conquer on the channel, mod for Medieval 2 total war

@@SpiritOfTheLaw ahh I see, that's fair enough.

Or just allow bigger maps. That usually makes games last longer.

Skee pan

There is no hunting wolves anymore. I have the feeling that now deer and chicken for example have the same pick rate too, so now there is more "quality" food near tc, which makes the game better in my opinion. Helps with raids and building your economy before having to search for more food.

I thought the healing was tied to town centers, at least it was when I played recently. Maybe I’m just blind lmao but I agree he’s a very good minor god and stone giants are amazing as well mixed with other units

@@junjun366 its both forts and town centers. Only mentioned forts because you can put them anywhere :p

Valkyries and healing springs?

@@woutervan8019 I mentioned "if ullr or heimdall got picked"; with either you have no access to the spring or valkyries :)

And some of the Aztec human units could include barracks > Jaguar warrior > Eagle Warrior Archery range > Plummed Archers > skirmishes Just like in AOE2 they also don’t get access to Calvary units

There are two expansions included in the full game right now. They aren't out yet, but the first one is confirmed to be a proper rework of the Chinese. The second one has no info on it at the moment.

If you bought it on the xbox store check the DLC's on your library or the age of mythology page, you have to manually install each DLC.

seems to be a bug, seen a bunch of people on the subreddit say the same thing, maybe check there if someone found a fix.

If you are on steam click on your game and check right side for dlcs then look if its enabled or not, maybe that will help

According to the Steam page, at the present time there are plans to do at least two future content packs, one will be a Chinese pantheon (presumably a rework of the Chinese DLC for Extended Edition) and then a second content pack that is a bit more vague but it will be "additional" gods for the existing pantheons, so hopefully they'll end up with at least 4 gods for all 5 civilization pantheons (once Chinese are included)... but I don't know if those "future content packs" will be separate paid DLC or free updates to the base game, I guess we'll see how they implement that eventually

@@JimRFF the second expasion will be a whole new pantheon, and considering it's part of the premium edition, it will most likely be a paid dlc. hopefully, if the game does well enough, we'll get extra "new gods packs", much like Freyr, for each pantheon

@@JimRFF Not to be racist or anything but can we just not add the Chinese into this game? They fult gimmicky and forced in the Extended Edition, not even counting how many players stopped at the Titans expansion and exclusively played with its most well known bug. I get that the Chinese have just as much mithology in their culture as any of the other races but their units just feel forced. most people loved AoM because they got to play with the myth creatures and gods they learnt about in elementary school. All in all I won't just leave the game because they included the Chinese in it but I wouldn't say it improves the game but I am down to be proven wrong.

@@vigilanterorschach2600lol the devs know how people felt about it thats why they doing them over from scratch pretty sure it will be sick like dragons better powers etc

The description of Tempest is "Target a location to unleash a vicious hailstorm, damaging enemies and heavily slowing their attacks and movement" - I don't think it's supposed to be used on buildings, though I haven't tried that yet. I think I was just too impatient. It started a little underwhelming but went on for so long it basically won the whole fight.

Freyr listed as a specific god pack in the full version of the game. With no mention of other god packs, I don't think they will on launch.

For this game I was using basically this exact computer except upgraded with 32 GB RAM instead of the default 16 GB (I like lots of RAM to make video editing faster): www.newegg.com/abs-ali642-gladiator/p/N82E16883360307C I agree AoM ran very smoothly even while recording at the same time.

They did in a way. Atlanteans in the Titans got multiple uses of their God Powers with a cooldown.

AOM was great game 20 years ago but it failed on many balance fronts. it was suppose replace Age of Empire 2 but it is poor balance and gameplay mechanic made flop. Now it is actually improving itself into something that makes a lot more sense. this is one of those common sense changes.

I think it changes based on what civ you played most recently or something like that. I've noticed as I've been playing with Freyr it seems to have the Norse main menu screen every time.

Never got the chance? It's been around for 18 years!

@@MatthewTheWanderer Haha that's true, but I don't have the benefit of nostalgia to help me get into it! it's very old school, nowadays.

@@MatthewTheWanderer or even for someone who missed out on the initial release in 2002, there was a Steam release in 2014.

@@RG001100 Right, exactly! Wait, the original game came out way back in 2002? So, I should have said 22 years ago, not 18, earlier (I guess I got its release date confused with that of AoE3). But, anyway, the original has been available on Steam for over a decade now, so either way, it makes no sense to claim that someone "never had a chance" to play.

Woof, never expected to get picked apart on a SotL video.​@@MatthewTheWanderer

I imagine the plan is to give each pantheon 4 over time. This seems more like a way to test the idea. It feels a lot like the Civilization series and their leader packs.

@@SpiritOfTheLaw i hope so! :)