There's a scene in one of the 40k books that I really like. It's describing a private museum on Earth, full of artifacts that are important to humanity. The first faster-than-light navigation drive, the first cloning formula, the first Titan rover, etc. But the centrepiece is a case containing 8 shards of pottery from a badly made bowl. Presumably the oldest ever found. And a character explains that without this bowl, and without the mind that made it, all the other cases would be empty. That one day, one of our ancestors noticed that a certain type of clay hardened in the sun and decided that he was going to make something. That every great journey has that first tentative step!
Long before his parents and many generations before him even had opposing thumbs,, tools where used... this guy definetly wasn't the first to figure this out, but it is a magical scene enhanced by the music.
@@metsrus Not like this. The bird does use a stone only as a means to achieve a very specific purpose, like cracking a nut. Thats the furthest its mind understands what a stone can do. The "ape" here however realizes the bone can act as an extension of his own body and force multiplier. There is a huge difference.
@@Cenkolino there's no arguing birds are physically and mentally limited compared to mammals so yeah stones and twigs are the best tools they gonna use. I'm just telling the original poster that mammals are not the first to use tools, which is true. also look up "crows using tools" and watch a video of a crow understanding water displacement. the more stones it put in, the water level rises. There's also an experiment where a crow solved an 8 step puzzle to get food. quite astonishing. Also with more primitive mammals before the apes, teamwork and tool using have been witnessed. Just not to the level that you mentioned. In fact, I remember my old man telling me once how he saw two rats cooperating to capture an egg. One rat would hold on to the egg and the other one would pull it's tail.
@Cenkolino The bird does not have the same physicality as mammals (like prehistoric man) to weild weapons. Birds can't swing weapons around like that because they don't have hands. Their intelligence is more capable enough, and they demonstrate that in different ways.
Kubrick was too good. Notice how the monolith flashes before before the ape picks up the bone? But he doesn't just pick it up right away, he tilts his head, he gets a new perspective on it, and its value completely changes. The monolith might seem impossible to understand, but just tilt your head, get a new perspective, and realize it's a screen. The apes gained self awareness, we all do too when we realize this. Just look at Dave at the end, old, in his death bed, realizing the monolith isn't upright, 3 feet away from his bed, it's inches away from him, from his perspective, and he need only reach out and touch it. Which he does. And what happens when he touches it? The monolith makes us self aware, it gives us life. For Dave it was somewhat too late being as how he was already old, but nevertheless he gained that knowledge. The apes gained it too. When presented with the monolith, you might remember they coward and examined it, trying to find a meaning, much like viewers watching the movie, until finally they reached out and touched it and realized it was nothing. By doing that they gained the ability of self awareness, shortly after echoed in this scene. Sitting near these bones one might think they're just things lying around, but by tilting your head you might realize one of the bones fits nicely in the palm of your hand, and when you pick it up you notice its weight drives it in one direction so you swing it and notice how it breaks other things lying around. This is no longer a bone, it is a weapon, and you realized it. Look at the Tapir being killed, symbolizing humans' new domination over nature. But what new perspective do the astronauts in the movie have to gain? They've mastered self awareness by this point, right? They've built cities, ships, traveled the stars, what could the monolith offer them? The same thing as always, the reminder that they are alive.
The first time the tapir is shown, the head falls to left side, but the second time it is shown, it ends up laying like the corpse - I saw the scene like the tapir was once alive and its remains are either dissolving (smashed by some ape or some hoofs or the wind over time) or it becomes a tool - like we are always standing on shoulders of those before us. Tapirs can't go to space, but without them: nobody could have.
its interesting that in kubrick's depiction the apes' way towards achieving freedom is violence. what really defines this section of the movie is how the apes are able to use tools to gain domination of the world around them which intimidated them. because they depend so much on the tool to gain dominance that inadvertently the tool takes control over the ape, probably even shaping their desires to dominate even more. Its the same arc that continues throughout that movie where at the end the ape/human reaches true emancipation. in some ways this movie is a critique on violence as a means towards achieving freedom.
Discovery of the first equipment. This "ape" is super ape, his "bone" worth more than any kind of modern equipment. Movie of 40years ago, the scene is still breath taking.
@@marccru Tools are used by animals to obtain food, like apes, but only humans use weapons to hunt, defend and unfortunately kill other humans as seen below.
The first time I watched 2001, I almost gave up. This scene got me so mesmerized though, and I became glued to Kubrick ever since. What a guy. Such a genius.
I made the right decision in reading the book before watching the film. Obviously the film is still a classic and ground-breaking in cinema but there's so much that can't be portrayed in film that you can get from literature.
I will share with you as someone who saw this film as a child and read Clark's book later. This apes clan or family was starving, cold and chased from the only fresh water source by a larger, healthier clan of apes. They were on the slope towards death, and the premise was that the monolith selected this individual to educate with the spark of intellect that a club, the earliest weapon, increased his reach and the force of his blows. This gave him the opportunity to survive, and to the dismay of liberal viewers, the advantage over those that wished to harm him.
The threat of imprisonment or death is not removed from our world by either political persuasion. At least conservatives realize our right to possess weapons to defend ourselves from those that would think nothing of killing us for a buck. Only fools read the news of mankinds' past and current behavior and believe the world is now safe.
It always really annoys me when they just give you the ape bit and miss out the space bit. Infuriating! It doesn't come together until you hear the waltz music.
The proportions of the rectangular monolith are 2.2:1, the same as the proportions of the film on which this was shot. The film itself is the monolith.
The movie is all about the alchemical process of Solve et Coagula (Analyze and Synthesize. The entire process of existence can be summed up in this old alchemical maxim.
not quite. the monolith has quickened the evolution of this apelike creature and inspired it to use the femur as a tool. the femur then becomes a spaceship, showing how tools have progressed since then.
+Tyrone Niggah If only there was a monolith that could give *_you_* a brain. But alas, even the 2001 aliens weren't advanced enough to create a monolith *_that_* powerful.
1:34-1:49 the 2 tapirs “Relatives of both the Horse & Rhinoceros” are acting like they’re being stuck down due to the bone of one of their dead companions are being whacked & smashed.
my girlfriend just finally fetched me a cold beer for the first time. i responded by sipping it slowly and then advancing to a full chug while playing this video in the background. dawn of man.
its not supposed to be humorous (even though it is to some) its trying to show how the first human ancestor figured out how to use something as a weapon and figured out that it could crush bones. And that is how war was born.
@TheDukeOfPizza I know, I know, it still seems kind of funny when you watch it for the first time though...\ P.S. you're right, Stanley Kubrick was a genius, ppl make jokes about him saying how he was always a little "Out of this world" In a way they were right...
I find this particular scene so silly it's funny! I mean, it's a guy dressed as an ape bashing bones, it's too hard to explain. It's just kind of like...wot the??? The actual movie is ok though... ;) \
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 Boo-boo, just look at this self-confident kiddo. I bet you've never read "Capital" or anything connected with socialism theory. Nonetheless, you are allowing yourself to make such stupid statements. Get lost, liberal pussy.
@@Skooffy i guarantee I'm older than you, and i guarantee you haven't lived in a country that was first fascist and then socialist and both times were indistinguishable, i have, i don't need to read to know about something "in-theory" because i have lived it
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 1) I don't know what country you lived in, but I bet there was only a name from socialism, if it brought up a person like you. I think you mean Germany, but DDR was one of the most rich and developed countries in Europe, so you are liar or just some stupid kid (or a kid in adult body), who is trying to look smart. 2) You can report me for 10 times, I don't care. It's not "my method" or "communist method". It is *your* *method* of offended capitalist slave, who just lost the conversation and trying to silence everybody around. It is pointless, because there is no cursing or insulting in my comments. Your helpless denunciation reminds me of American denunciation hysteria against socialists and CIA crimes when they terrorized socialists around the world. You are the same. 3) You have no education, no knowledge, you haven't read the basic literature, so I don't see a reason to argue with person who is weaker than me in all aspects.
