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Apex 2015 - Mew2King (Marth) Vs. Leffen (Fox) - Winners Quarters - SSBM 

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@SpiCYTaC0
@SpiCYTaC0 9 лет назад
i can tell leffen wasn't satifsfied with that win, he knows that was far from m2k's best.
@BRIE....
@BRIE.... 9 лет назад
Because m2k was sick. You cant really think that you are better than someone if he played worse than he could have normally played.
@Collectorp123
@Collectorp123 9 лет назад
BRIE everyone is always sick at these very large tourneys, the people who get top 8 are the people who tough it out
@JoeLee-th8wr
@JoeLee-th8wr 9 лет назад
You guys have to admit that Leffen is pretty amazing. Probably not as good as Colbol's fox, but still pretty good.
@BRIE....
@BRIE.... 9 лет назад
Joe Lee I think that Leffen is by far better than Colbol. I mean Colbol lost against Westballz Falco and Leffen won against Mangos Falco.
@HidenLotus-
@HidenLotus- 9 лет назад
Collectorp123 Yeah but m2k was coughing up blood and vomitting lol id give him a free card this time. He still has way more sets over leffen than leffen does over him. That being said. Leffen played fucking great this tourney.
@itsIBizzle
@itsIBizzle 9 лет назад
8:25 If Scar and Toph fused DBZ style, they would sound like that
@BHox01
@BHox01 9 лет назад
If Leffen couldn't beat M2K here, he never would've been able to. Leffen being "on" this tourney (until WF), M2K playing bad due to lack of practice because of Smash 4, M2K being sick/vomiting and not getting a break because of Melee doubles and Smash 4, and Bo3 meaning no FD. Regardless, good job to Leffen for his play.
@smittyyagermanjenson2067
@smittyyagermanjenson2067 9 лет назад
Just because it's a john doesn't mean it's not true. Everyone seriously needs to stop misusing that word.
@hackebeilhaus
@hackebeilhaus 9 лет назад
Smitty yagermanjenson the thing about johning is that it invalidates the victory which is the worst kind of sportsmanship and is extremely hypocritical in the smash community where everyone bashes leffen for bad sportsmanship and behavior and everyone just keeps on crying about it after a match or a tourney you should just consider it a good game and leave it at that (it's not like the opponent is every time in top form either) P.S. and saying good job to leffen or whoever you played against after the john doesn't make it better
@xJupy
@xJupy 9 лет назад
hackebeilhaus Is it a "john" If you are actually sick and throwing up blood?
@geileoma80
@geileoma80 9 лет назад
xJupy Leffen also was sick and jetlagged according to his twitter
@symphoniez
@symphoniez 9 лет назад
Play this match out 1000 times and M2K wins in the long run.
@Zorc620
@Zorc620 9 лет назад
He's taken a set off each god now. He regularly ranks among them at tournaments. He took third here, taking sets off M2K and Mango. Beating Mango in particular was no upset. He's beaten Armada numerous times. It has to be said. Leffen is the sixth god of Smash. He's still not a nice person, but he's earned that place by skill.
@wejl
@wejl 9 лет назад
(^_^) I like to view it as the Devil of smash, rather than the sixth God. (ya know when taking his personallity in regardzz)
@Zorc620
@Zorc620 9 лет назад
wejl True, I suppose that's more fitting.
@Km-qo6ex
@Km-qo6ex 9 лет назад
leffen is 4th actually.
@cookster69
@cookster69 9 лет назад
Everyone knows this already, lawl.
@HidenLotus-
@HidenLotus- 9 лет назад
wejl I see it as all of the gods are like greek gods. (some may be subjective beware) Mango - Zeus, The goat PPMD - Poseidon, cause he can just wipe a bracket (SKATR and Apex2015) Armada Akras - the god of turnips Hungry box is hypnos the god of sleep m2k is athena - intelligence and leffen is fucking Kratos, the god slayer, cause thats what he had to do to become a god. He hasnt won an american national yet so i dont consider him a god yet, But he is the only god slayer until PewpewU decides he wants to hunt them all down #Iamagiantnerd
@Phantom_madman
@Phantom_madman 9 лет назад
Mew2king posted on his Facebook that he already beat leffen countless times but it wont matter until he loses and that is just sick but now that leffen finaly got a game mew2king can now play without pressure ... And just for good messure mew2king was infact sick had depressing problems even before apex at paragon even and was already considering dropping out of the tournament this is the truth this video is just very hearthbreaking for me because mew2king must have felt shut after this but i hope he bounces back
@BrickNGames
@BrickNGames 9 лет назад
ROYS OUR BOY
@XJDBaku15
@XJDBaku15 9 лет назад
NO JOHNS
@Phantom_madman
@Phantom_madman 9 лет назад
***** yes he is (PM) roy is the shit in melee i main falco tho
@Phantom_madman
@Phantom_madman 9 лет назад
Black Guys Who Play Super Smash Bros it might be a john but its the truth believe it or not
@BrickNGames
@BrickNGames 9 лет назад
Lord Roy Roy isn't *bad* in Melee, he's just a much worse Marth
@dnshshlidrs
@dnshshlidrs 9 лет назад
M2k threw it away after that sd. Damn.
@BuIIetBiII
@BuIIetBiII 9 лет назад
Wow. Such johns. many salt
@CELTiiCx
@CELTiiCx 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII Did you watch the match? It's very clear M2K sandbagged that last stock. The OP's comment was an observation not a john. You clearly have lost the true definition of an excuse and what clearly is an observation or something that is a legitimate factor. Obviously some johns do discredit the win, but some excuses are the blatant truth and have a huge factor on someones psyche in a game. Leffen deserved to win this set, but I don't think Leffen will be satisfied until he beats M2K in a Bo5 set and also when M2K is mentally and physically there. I am not discrediting Leffen, because this was his best event by far, but you are making the phrase "no johns" toxic and annoying. Saying M2K should of just taken off Apex if he was that sick is just dumb, considering it was the largest Melee tournament in history to date and he no longer is sponsored. I'm not making a million excuses for M2K as he obviously lost the set, but to say that everything someone observes or points out is a john is just annoying.
@sensen1388
@sensen1388 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII How the hell is throwin a game a john learn your fuckn terminology is it your damn job to say if anyone on M2K's side is a john listen youve been at this shit why dont you trot your ass to the shower. and be your "terminology" your saying if racer breaks his leg and still races and loose and people defend him for having a broken leg is a "John"... Take all your toxicated terms to the shower as well and wash them off. I shouldnt have to say that this is also so damn imature God someone teh this man a lesson.
@BuIIetBiII
@BuIIetBiII 9 лет назад
I don't know why your getting so angry. M2K 'throwing' the game is 100% a john so maybe you need to learn your terminology lol. Also soooo a racing driver with a broken leg decides to race and loses and expects everyone to pretend like he would have won the race if his leg would have been fine. There is literally 0 logic to that (not that you'd know what logic is in the first place)
@sensen1388
@sensen1388 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII So angry? lol atleast i dont fucking go around telling every one that evrey fucking fact is an excuse like do you got anything else to do with yourself. How the fuck is throwing a Game an excuse? IS John your favorite "Word"? Are you gay? an you beat M2K? You did frame reasearch? How the fuck do you know that someones angry by reading fucking text?Dont even give me your cursing shit because at some point it beomes a habit? Do you think your always right? Also just stop trolling. Oh and the only reason he still played was for his fans some shit you wouldnt do in your life. Also i can do whatever i want with my life is a john? Or beause i can? OH fuckin tell me? YOu need jesus in your life.
@jonathancangelosi2439
@jonathancangelosi2439 8 лет назад
3:34 Ken combos without the double jump are so gorgeous.
@107olivier
@107olivier 8 лет назад
nah with DJ looks better
@jfp521
@jfp521 9 лет назад
Leffen looked legit pissed that the set ended the way it did, mew2king literally fell into that up air and leffen knew it to. It definitely seems like leffen doesn't feel satisfied with that win.
@ghosttoast8326
@ghosttoast8326 9 лет назад
Jordan Pacheco Well, m2k wasn't his best at that time anyway
@Bolt892
@Bolt892 9 лет назад
Z E B Z He's still not at his best nowadays.
@Bleedingme1000
@Bleedingme1000 9 лет назад
I knew Leffen was getting better and better. He's playing so godlike now it's crazy. Mad respect
@Fieryvortex48
@Fieryvortex48 9 лет назад
So, him beating some nerd who is out of practice and was vomiting during that weekend equals godlike? LOL.
@ieatshotguns4514
@ieatshotguns4514 9 лет назад
Fieryvortex48 That, and consecutively beating Mango (rank1 in the world at the moment) makes him a God.
@Bleedingme1000
@Bleedingme1000 9 лет назад
Fieryvortex48 Beating the top 5 players in a row? Yea that is godlike
@Fieryvortex48
@Fieryvortex48 9 лет назад
iEatShotguns Congrats, some lesbian beat idiots with odor.
@Bleedingme1000
@Bleedingme1000 9 лет назад
Fieryvortex48 You probably aren't very good are you
@brokenfiddle3379
@brokenfiddle3379 8 лет назад
Looking back on this and seeing what followed I'd say Leffen deserves this win regardless of what anybody can say. M2K was sick and depressed but he joined the tornament anyway and lost, it is heartbreaking but we have to deal with M2K's choices and admit that Leffen is one of the Five. It's not a sixth "Melee King" but he is one of them regardless. It's not "Johns" or trying to validate a loss, it's the principals that factor in and call it a fluke or a beat down the fact is Leffen won. I personally love any and every Smash player and supporter equally, to the Alpharads, Omni, Documentary fans, Ken, Villian, ChuDat, and Mang0s (HboX as well) we all need to help our players and keep then inspired by saying "It happens". PPMD personifying my points of " I lose and learn" playstyle that inspired me to get in Smash. Leffen for his "Villian" role is so damn cool and he is my favorite for Smash Lore reasons. I hope someone in the Smash boards see this and see that some nobody who mains Kirby and Puff in Melee, Megaman and Kirby in Sm4sh, and Snake in Brawl cares for this community and doesn't want anybody to quit.
@destroiz
@destroiz 9 лет назад
Leffen is like ''yeah i'm not counting this match in my mind''
@TojinDND
@TojinDND 9 лет назад
IDGAF MEW2KING is the best smash player I know, whether he wins or loses .
@MrHitchslap
@MrHitchslap 9 лет назад
this was just such a high energy set!! they both played ridiculously amazing omg their movement was incredible and the combos baby oohhh super action packed I was in the crowd losing my mind!!
@blazedxjan
@blazedxjan 9 лет назад
Props to Leffen, it aint easy putting in work against the Gods when it feels like you got the whole world looking over your shoulder. Good luck sir.
@TheLovemusic101
@TheLovemusic101 9 лет назад
heart breaking
@MrHitchslap
@MrHitchslap 9 лет назад
that moment at 8:40 reminded me of that same SD he made against Armada Evo 2013
@TheLethalPacifist
@TheLethalPacifist 9 лет назад
When I heard that M2K finally lost to Leffen all I hoped for was a good set and games 1 and 2 delivered. But damn I didn't want it to happen that way.
@starfox300
@starfox300 9 лет назад
I think it was beautiful
@TheLovemusic101
@TheLovemusic101 9 лет назад
starfox300 thats because you're heartless you devil worshiper
@starfox300
@starfox300 9 лет назад
TheLovemusic101 Why? M2K always cries when he loses, he expects to win, never acknowledges his opponents, I love it when he gets destroyed.
@WhiteShaddo
@WhiteShaddo 9 лет назад
Z I P B O Y Z
@AnimeAddictNekoChan
@AnimeAddictNekoChan 9 лет назад
It's like M2K really isn't ment to be good at this competitive game because he lacks a bunch of highly required traits of a player. Yet he still keeps going and places pretty good just by pressing these buttons exactly at the right time. It kinda seems like nobody tires as hard as M2K in this game, if he had any natural talent for melee, he would wreck everybody because then his play would just look like a TAS run.
@jasonr8109
@jasonr8109 9 лет назад
STi Impreza Dakimakura This is very true. It's pretty clear that Mew2King got good by practicing around 2006-2007 for like 3-5 hours straight a day, lol. It's very impressive actually and I believe it's more impressive than having natural talent for the game although if he did have natural talent, he would be untouchable. Mango seems to have the most natural talent for the game, but he doesn't really practice so his skills aren't as clean. :l
@jnconrad01
@jnconrad01 9 лет назад
Jason R i feal its more like he is trying to do to much because if you look back at when he was almost unbeatable melee was the only game he played but being top 5 in 4 games is really impressove
@TheUltimateNatural
@TheUltimateNatural 9 лет назад
STi Impreza Dakimakura How does he not have natural talent for Melee?
@rocklobster6412
@rocklobster6412 9 лет назад
Am I the only person who thinks m2k at his best can beat anyone? He can definitely be the best or worst on any given day.
@jnconrad01
@jnconrad01 9 лет назад
I agree
@Madbutcher305
@Madbutcher305 9 лет назад
I dunno about these illness johns, Mew2King's punishes actually looked like some of the best he's had. Might have been uncomfortable but he was playing better than at Paragon for sure.
@JesseDumontt
@JesseDumontt 9 лет назад
People saying "M2K is sick." is clearly a John. Then they say, "Well he actually was sick. He was coughing blood." When you don't actually know that, and well I guess people can't say, "Mango was drunk." when you can clearly tell he is in some videos and people still say "No Johns.". M2K definitely looks okay to me. Shouldn't bother with his skill. I like both, but just admit Leffen is fucking good. Dang. It's the truth.
@Vextos
@Vextos 9 лет назад
1:25 - 1:38 was fucking amazing
@YacubCubby13579ZR
@YacubCubby13579ZR 9 лет назад
Anybody else curious what Mew2king banned? Because I'm surprised they went to Dreamland.
@Mrultimatepokemonfan
@Mrultimatepokemonfan 9 лет назад
Since it wasn't Dreamland I'm thinking either Battlefield or Stadium, likely Stadium.
@ghostadventures23
@ghostadventures23 9 лет назад
If I was M2K I would of gone Shiek on Dreamland. And for the record Leffen is getting really good really fast, and I don't want this guy being the face of smash. He's a dick, plain and simple. I pray the PPMD or Mango can stop him
@Bleedingme1000
@Bleedingme1000 9 лет назад
The face of melee will always be those thay truly love the game and have a passion for it. Which he obviously does. Good sportsmanship is suggested but it's the players heart and drive that matter. He's been changing alot lately and being more respectful. And he shouldn't be hated just because he doesn't sugar coat angthing. If anything he's driving his opponent to do better against him. He probably says what alot of people think but wouldn't say. You can say what you want about leffen but there are not even a handful of other players who have the same heart and passion for this game as him
@ohmygoshIMjosh
@ohmygoshIMjosh 9 лет назад
i completely agree. with op. leffen is a punk, plain and simple. sportsmanship is half the game. half-korean? please. we raise even our delinquents with more honor than that.
@Bleedingme1000
@Bleedingme1000 9 лет назад
Josh Yoo He's blunt. That's it. People are too sensitive I swear
@HellsxDemon
@HellsxDemon 9 лет назад
...Have you ever met leffen irl?
@Madbutcher305
@Madbutcher305 9 лет назад
Leffen is a troll on Twitter but generally he's pretty cool, he's good in interviews and isn't really rude anymore.
@sadmemeboi
@sadmemeboi 8 лет назад
Leffen's hoodie looks chill af. Anyone know what brand/store?
@matthew-3437
@matthew-3437 4 года назад
Did you ever find out?
@sadmemeboi
@sadmemeboi 4 года назад
@@matthew-3437 Nah, I think it looks lame now.
@dr0wzee0101
@dr0wzee0101 2 года назад
Lost 38 milliseconds when the Jump Cut or Skip happened at 6:29
@HellsxDemon
@HellsxDemon 9 лет назад
Wait, I just realized...why did they go to dreamland for game 3? Did M2K seriously ban Stadium over Dreamland?
@Mrultimatepokemonfan
@Mrultimatepokemonfan 9 лет назад
Even weirder is the last time they played Stadium Leffen lost to M2K in the least close game of the set. If he banned Dreamland M2K might've still been able to win.
@BrickNGames
@BrickNGames 9 лет назад
Why did Leffen talk shit about Mew2King on Twitter after this win? Saying it was the end of Mew2king His SD, him being sick, Smash 4 Also, he got like 17th or something at Apex 2012.
@BuIIetBiII
@BuIIetBiII 9 лет назад
no johns
@BrickNGames
@BrickNGames 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII y nut
@SuperNero791
@SuperNero791 9 лет назад
***** John, pls. It's allowed. c:
@koffingblood3629
@koffingblood3629 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII Holy shit, shut up.
@BrickNGames
@BrickNGames 9 лет назад
Was M2K the last God to be defeated by Leffen?
@HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO
@HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO 9 лет назад
Mang0 was
@h0ps1
@h0ps1 9 лет назад
HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO no, m2k was. Mang0 lost to Leffen at Beast 5
@HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO
@HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO 9 лет назад
opps must of got my facts wrorng XD thanks 4 correcting me, talking about 4, I wonder who is going to be gods of sm4sh? Probably M2K or ZeRo will be first
@3stepsahead704
@3stepsahead704 9 лет назад
HARRRRRRRRRRRRIO Smash 4, IMHO, will not be that relevant to have "gods" called, just as Brawl.
@crono3833
@crono3833 9 лет назад
M2K just lost his fire after that SD; wish the set could've ended a bit better, was exciting up until then.
@Swpb666
@Swpb666 9 лет назад
M2k why? Loosing your touch
@nakodares5982
@nakodares5982 9 лет назад
Lmao M2K fans getting so salty about the word "johns". A loss is a loss whatever excuses you make, especially if they're excuses like "Oh I didn't practice enough"
@DrAlphatier
@DrAlphatier 9 лет назад
Anybody else find Leffen's Fox super boring? All I'm seeing is Up-Throw>Up-Air or Drill>Shine>Grab (sometimes Drill>Shine>Up-Smash).
@Nawwll
@Nawwll 9 лет назад
90% of leffen KO's are up throw to up smash. He's really good but watching him is so boring. That combo M2K sometimes busts out is far more skill dependent.
@mr.pappernickle4067
@mr.pappernickle4067 9 лет назад
I feel like this was the best set even considering both the players feeling like shit more m2k so he played great for how sick I heard he was
@sensen1388
@sensen1388 9 лет назад
Meh he won first in doubles both smash4 as well he didnt practice melee so yeah... also the only one who took a match out of ZeRo... M2K deserved way more respect
@themeowboss9972
@themeowboss9972 3 года назад
This was the end of the Era of the Five Gods.
@UserName-dt3kc
@UserName-dt3kc 3 года назад
TheMeowBoss bearing 5 players doesn’t end an era
@user-wx2vf4ii1b
@user-wx2vf4ii1b 3 года назад
@@UserName-dt3kc it does, it was the beginning of more players rising to the level of the gods, leffen plup etc
@UserName-dt3kc
@UserName-dt3kc 3 года назад
@@user-wx2vf4ii1b you realize that the 5 gods still were the era till pp hiatus really, you could argue about leffen being in the top 5 all day but it takes more than that to end an era
@user-wx2vf4ii1b
@user-wx2vf4ii1b 3 года назад
@@UserName-dt3kc to me the dominance of the 5 gods ended there, 2016 onwards way more players got to the level of the gods, plus pps retirement
@UserName-dt3kc
@UserName-dt3kc 3 года назад
@@user-wx2vf4ii1b 2016 rankings: 1 armada 2hbox 3mango 4 M2K 5.leffen Sure bout that?
@manemiles
@manemiles 9 лет назад
Why don't people use counters when they have Marth
@PaulGLarsson
@PaulGLarsson 9 лет назад
Punishable
@thatguyoverthere54
@thatguyoverthere54 9 лет назад
Problem with counter is it's EXTREMELY hard to use it on reaction, and extremely impractical most of the time considering the hitbox is more like a shield and doesn't extend very far out. Often when Marths use counter a lot (look at Ken vs PC Chris in the Salty Suite) they have to guess when to use it, and when you start guessing a lot, you become predictable so the opponent baits you into using it. If you use it, they can just go for a grab and get at least 50% on you, maybe even a kill.
@jasonr8109
@jasonr8109 9 лет назад
***** Nobody even uses it in Smash 4.
@clashoflegends1
@clashoflegends1 9 лет назад
Leffen played extremely well but M2K has been playing too much sm4sh lately... Still great play by leff... M2K for eva!
@koffingblood3629
@koffingblood3629 9 лет назад
M2k Was vomiting and coughing up blood this tournament. [wait that's pretty funny with my name].
@clashoflegends1
@clashoflegends1 9 лет назад
Koffing Blood I don't know weather to laugh or cry
@jeanosorio1
@jeanosorio1 9 лет назад
Leffen is still no match for m2k that error that he made cost him the match so we know that so i gues leffen is gonna think hi s better than him now: -l
@AgateRF
@AgateRF 9 лет назад
Just Leffen have his win.
@jeanosorio1
@jeanosorio1 9 лет назад
Ok
@BuIIetBiII
@BuIIetBiII 9 лет назад
until they play again, Leffen can legit claim he's better than M2K. deal with it
@jeanosorio1
@jeanosorio1 9 лет назад
BuIIetBiII yeah i gues its all good
@NICKTASCHYAN
@NICKTASCHYAN 9 лет назад
Mew2king will bounce from this. Leffen is a fuckboy for tweeting about the end of m2k when he has only beaten him once on a very bad m2k day, m2k is our only hope against 20xx and I believe he will shaft leffen next tourney
@zachariahjose5622
@zachariahjose5622 9 лет назад
6:30 to 6:31 there is a jump by a half second... other than that, its good! :)
@zachariahjose5622
@zachariahjose5622 9 лет назад
Zachariah Jose like .50 of a second, just look at the clock
@danielsjoseph5547
@danielsjoseph5547 9 лет назад
If fox had a counter... holy shit.
@LaziestNameEver
@LaziestNameEver 9 лет назад
No Final Destination from M2K?
@1000g2g3g4g800999
@1000g2g3g4g800999 9 лет назад
Bo3. Bans.
@jacobdiaz2089
@jacobdiaz2089 9 лет назад
even if m2k didn't make that mistake on dream land I think leffen would have still won the match and m2k 2 1
@smittyyagermanjenson2067
@smittyyagermanjenson2067 9 лет назад
Holy shit 1:25 to 1:40
@rodrigob.3590
@rodrigob.3590 9 лет назад
It was over at 8:42...
@elsujetoese2377
@elsujetoese2377 9 лет назад
Why did leffen win with only 2 matches?
@justatypicalyoutuber8402
@justatypicalyoutuber8402 4 года назад
Bo3 not ft3
@juniors8745
@juniors8745 7 лет назад
a bad day for m2k
@SuperNero791
@SuperNero791 9 лет назад
Yes johns.
@SSS7527
@SSS7527 9 лет назад
wtf did Mew2King ban game 3
@jasonr8109
@jasonr8109 9 лет назад
SoySauS Probably stadium.
@SSS7527
@SSS7527 9 лет назад
Jason R stadium is good for marth in general and alright in the matchup
@jasonr8109
@jasonr8109 9 лет назад
SoySauS Mew2King could've been scared to see what new combo's Leffen had in store this time around seeing as how Leffen was able to get a 70% combo on the last game at Paragon. Not entirely sure or he could've banned something like battlefield.
@SSS7527
@SSS7527 9 лет назад
Jason R I mean DL is Marth's worst stage and arguably Fox's best stage. What REALLY happened was M2K knows Leffen hates Marth so he was going to play all Marth. However he didn't ban DL because Leffen knows M2K has Sheik and Fox vs Sheik on DL is a nightmare. So M2K assumed Leffen wouldn't want to do Fox vs Sheik on DL, Leffen though would rather play Sheik on DL than Marth on any stage because Leffen hates Marth, so he picked DL to try to force M2K off Marth. M2K refused though and just stayed Marth and dealt with the stage.
@jasonr8109
@jasonr8109 9 лет назад
SoySauS lol, what a bitch.
@SolarValley_
@SolarValley_ 9 лет назад
Anyone else tired of seeing space animals?
@irratik7280
@irratik7280 9 лет назад
Depends on who it is. Leffen is extremely fundamental so it can be boring to watch, but mango is super fun to watch imo
@MrGoldfishwish
@MrGoldfishwish 9 лет назад
Leffen will forever be the Greatest of all time.
@nedbrookes6481
@nedbrookes6481 9 лет назад
LEFFEN!
@deeznutz2111
@deeznutz2111 9 лет назад
I enjoy watching a good marth way more than i enjoy watching a good fox. Marth to me just feels like he takes so much more skill to be effective and when its done right you can 0 to death someone like m2k did at 1:27. Fox combos just seem boring and he is way easier to finish a kill with. One up smash or up air at around 90% and your toast. Sure Marths edge guard shows the boring and easy side of him but when someone does an awesome Marth combo and finishes with a down air i love it. 3:25 is why I enjoy playing and watching marth more than fox. Maybe i just love down air kills but damn. The whole second set was awesome by m2k.
@disrupt94
@disrupt94 9 лет назад
Mark Streen Fox requires WAY MORE technical skill to play.
@deeznutz2111
@deeznutz2111 9 лет назад
Ludvig Burman How so? Shine is the only technical thing I see.
@hikaru257
@hikaru257 9 лет назад
+Mark Streen you sir gave me a good laugh
@disrupt94
@disrupt94 9 лет назад
Mark Streen Multishine, Shinegrab, Waveshine out of shield, Side-b shortens, invincible ledgedashes (with invincibility refreshes)... name one thing that Marth does that is more technical or harder to pull of. Down to the fundamentals even, fox is harder to play. Look at the frame difference to nail shorthop arials with Marth as opposed to Fox.
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