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@DaveThaumavore Год назад

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@cazmarius3442 Год назад

When it references "Wormwood" that is the active psychotropic ingredient in Absinthe, so when a third of the sea turns to wormwood, it's becoming a highly poisonous hallucinogenic liquid.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Aha, thanks! Now we know what John was enjoying when he wrote his prophecy.

@patrick.s3356 Год назад

I’ve always wanted to do a gritty biblical/old testament themed campaign. True Sword and Sandal type world. Can’t wait for your continued review when this game is fully released!

@robertmahiques6218 Год назад

That sounds really cool to me. The closest I've heard of is Pendragon which is historical medieval Europe and could probably be used for new testament stuff.

@robertlombardo8437 4 месяца назад

Everybody says they want to play biblical RPG until it's time to find a party. Best of luck, I'm still trying!

@robertlombardo8437 4 месяца назад

I'm a born-again Christian myself. And not just any kind, I'm a fundamentalist Baptist, the kind that D&D players usually cite when they rail on about the Satanic Panic in the 80s. That all said, I have wanted to bring my faith to life on a tabletop for EVER! This book and The Adventurer's Guide to the Bible are two of the best shots I've ever seen someone make at bringing the Bible into RPG form. I would totally play a campaign of this. Doesn't matter if you can play a servant of the beast. Because I know that I won't, and that is all that matters!

@nicolotosarello180 Год назад

Glad you are taking interest in the italian RPG scene! It Is Amazing and as backer i cannot recommend household enought for a future review

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

It’s coming up very soon on the channel.

@Thenarratorofsecrets Год назад

The Furioso... OMFG landsknecht. I dislike 5e but that art... and anything using that style of armsman immediately gets my attention.

@BuckFu Год назад

Revelations is definitely a “need to read” part of the Bible as well as Genesis, Matthew and John. As a Lutheran myself, I like theology being presented here; there is a good and a bad side that many people are oblivious to, those being coaxed by satan don’t understand his intention. If people understood evil, they would have a lot less to point fingers at when it comes to problems in the world. I guess what I’m trying to say is, if this makes someone pick up the Bible and just read some of it, I think that’s a good thing.

@user-gj7lp5iz6k Год назад

Revelation, not Revelations. It's "The revelation of St. John the Divine in exile on Patmos".

@BuckFu Год назад

@@user-gj7lp5iz6k I really should’ve “seen” that one coming.😂

@joshbingham212 Год назад

As a Christian who sees the book of Revelation as mostly metaphorical for Christ’s Second Coming, I think the art in this book is really cool and I’m not bothered by the fact that you can play on the side of the devil. It’s just a game. The only thing that would be potentially off putting is a disrespectful depiction of God or Jesus

@samim5140 Год назад

Hi there, Josh. As part of the Acheron Games team, I can assure you that we have been extremely respectful of the religious theme, because of course it's a super sensitive subject. We worked on the Book of Revelation with a literary and folkloric approach. For the same reason, we use the names "Throne" and "Abyss" instead of "God" and "Satana". And there is no Jesus. It's a figure that we couldn't separate from a religious prospective, so we decided to not quote it for respect.

@joshbingham212 Год назад

Thank you for reaching out and giving your explanation! I appreciate it!

@jacobstacey6911 Год назад

@@samim5140 Thanks for this reply, I was doing some research on the game and thought it would be instructive and interesting for my circle to play in this setting. But, we are pretty religious, and I was hoping that this would be clearly in a fiction inspired by biblical text, rather than a perversion or mockery of biblical text. It seems as though you have found a good balance here, and I appreciate the consideration and care.

@larsbangjensen5332 Год назад

Really wish it wasn't tied to 5E but looks really nice.. Guess it could be customized to other rules..

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Yeah I’m sure porting it would not be too hard. The project has a lot of merit outside of its ruleset.

@larsbangjensen5332 Год назад

@@DaveThaumavore Just backed it.. Looks really nice and I do see how the 5E engine can support the 'angelic' / high-fantasy vibe. Great review!

@TheCoachBrendan Год назад

Been watching for a while, but I don't think I've ever commented, however I had to comment when you signed up with "Anyway...." Thank you so much for not saying "anyways", which is not a word. One of the reasons I enjoy your channel & blog is that it is so well scripted/thought out and articulated clearly. I really enjoy seeing when you've posted a new video. As for the setting, I'm not certain about it; I like it, but I'm not a big fan of serving demonic powers nor of fighting angels, so I will likely stay clear, however there are several aspects of the mechanics and setting that appear quite mesmerizing. Cheers!

@danielpierce4430 Год назад

As a non-pious Bible nerd, I am stupid excited for this game.

@_evillevi 6 месяцев назад

I didn't know about this setting! I just got myself Inferno, which is also from Acheron (I think). Love italian indie settings

@andreazanon5995 Год назад

For those wondering whether the setting's mechanics can be adapted to other rulesets... I own both Inferno and Brancalonia (the two previous projects from the same team), and the peculiar mechanics were few and simple. The only aspect that I think would be a bit tricky to adapt is the ensemble of Inferno's classes, which worked a bit differently than standard 5e. If Apocalisse follows the same design philosophy as Brancalonia and Inferno, you should be good.

@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 Год назад

Apocalypsis, it was a terror at first, later a hope from clown world, and now a RPG.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

lol

@nathanespinoza6327 Год назад

This is a Cool idea for a setting, and im sure Christians already playing DnD probably won't care about the presence of demons and will likely enjoy playing this.. however, I'm concerned about the disconnect between how these symbols are used in a role playing game, compared to how they're interpreted for historical and prophetic events in the real world, and might give people a completely backwards view of what they are supposed to represent. It's a game and doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things, but it might influence people's presuppositions about what many of the characters in Revelation are supposed to be. ..like the Locusts for example being negative figures, or Babylon the Great being a positive one.

@megasquidd Год назад

This reminds me of Eden Studios' Armageddon: the End Times. The book was a hell of a read, but i couldn't make heads or tails of the system. This looks intriguing. I don't love 5e (bloated health pools, feats, 17 actions followed by a move and a bonus action etc..), but the setting might make me give it a look.

@liliththesolarexalted2206 Год назад

Honestly, I feel like Eden Studios has been the best one to handle this concept and make it playable as a game. They even have a great way of allowing players to justify playing as demons in that the threat of Leviathan is great enough that Heaven, Hell, and even Pagan entities are forced to work together to stop the true enemy.

@Pandenhir 10 месяцев назад

Found your channel by chance. Really digging many of these flavourful systems you show here. Not the most active player nowadays but some of these books like this or the coming Household just need to be in my shelf! Thanks :)

@PhilipDudley3 Год назад

Makes me think of Godbound by Kevin Crawford of Sine Nomine Publishing.

@jamesharrison142 Год назад

Wow! This looks awesome. Sounds fantastic, and I might do something like this myself - should be great! ❤️ Certainly not that thrilled about the 5e ness of it, but I'd love to look at exploring the setting

@himurogentoku7117 Год назад

Italian TTRPG publisher teams always have gorgeous and incredible art and design. I would love to hear your opinion about that beautiful Household RPG, Dave. I heard it was recently released too.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Yep, a review of Household is incoming later this month if all goes as planned.

@himurogentoku7117 Год назад

@@DaveThaumavore Oh that's great! I am really looking forward to it.

@pallenda Год назад

Holy devil that art is great! Cheers for the video.

@Neku9368 Год назад

i cant get over this art. its sooo good!

@luffysh Год назад

Dave: "The Throne's halo is on the forehead, and the sigil of the Beast is usually on the..." Me, a biblically stupid thinker: "arse" Dave: "... left hand or arm" Me: oh.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Arse is better.

@Darkgael Год назад

it looks like a cool setting but with all the unique sub systems they made they really should have just went a little further and made the game rules without using the 5e shell everyone under the sun uses. I would like to see there vision of what kind of system they would come up with to make this setting what it can be and not just another setting book for 5e

@guardian_of_the_rune Год назад

I just dislike the core rules of 5e. So if it's just adding some poorly written subclasses without some major overhaul. Than I'm still interested in getting the setting if there's an adventure. But Dragonbond seemed more ultra fantasy and did more with 5e.

@Cindolintoe Год назад

I've already ditched 5E before everything has gone on with the OGL and the Pinkertons, but this is the kind of thing I can see myself spending money on a final release. I wish it was its own system instead of 5E, but 5E is stupid easy to adapt into other systems. I am a Christian way before I'm an RPG gamer and I'm 100% on board with this stuff. My favorite video game series is Shin Megami Tensei. This looks like it will fulfill a similar catharsis for me: it's not about the fact that I can take Satan's side, it's about the fact that I can choose to fight for God.

@aty57 11 месяцев назад

I think the closest you'll probably get to another RPG that uses revelation, though more loosely, would be "Rapture: End of Days". It's a theological, sci-fi horror TTPRG. Pretty neat if you haven't looked into it, though I find it to be one of the more difficult to run since you'll often have some semi-coop elements instead full on coop because of hidden agendas. If you haven't seen though check it out. It's got a really cool settings. Also, most Christians probably won't mind the setting at all.

@ReustersPlace Год назад

Thank you for showing this to us, I hadn’t heard about it before

@k9ine999 Год назад

As a Christian I believe most theologians interpret John's revelation as a series of symbols within a historical context. Its the least literal book in the bible that ties togeather the symbolic prophesys of the of the old testament with the last days (after Jesus ressurection or rather our current time), as well as after his second coming (sometime in our future where God judges those who have not accepted Jesus sacrifice for sin). The art looks good but it appears to be a dark souls style interpretation of Revelations and will not tell you much about whats actually going to play out. The horsemen are symbols, so is the beast. Ways of describing forces in play at that time that paint a picture thats not always meant to be literal.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Yes, Revelations is not meant to be taken literally in real life. I agree.

@k9ine999 Год назад

@@DaveThaumavore I'd say real, but not literal.

@jacobstacey6911 Год назад

@@k9ine999 it’s a tough puzzle sometimes. Contextually if you were able to see literal visions of events playing out thousands of years in the future, you would only have your contemporary frame of reference to describe what you’ve seen. I am usually torn on how literally to interpret some of biblical content for this reason. Describing something today using a popular meme would sure look strange to people two thousand years in the future.

@ronwisegamgee Год назад

This is a kind of setting that's be as a perfect alternative for Shadow of the Demon Lord rules set. But yeah, marketability and all of that creativity-crushing hub-bub.

@richardextall2002 Год назад

D&D version of Mork Borg ? 🤔

@artistpoet5253 Год назад

My very first game of D&D was on the playground of my Catholic grade school. My very first D&D character was a cleric named Father Anthony and he fought Chaos wherever it stood or lurked. So, yeah, I'm excited to see a setting done up like this. But I wont be buying it. I don't like 5e and without a preview of the bespoke mechanics I'm not sure there's a way to retrofit it to an OSR. Aslo: I'm just not a fan of the multi volume format for a 'setting' and not a stand alone game.

@kryptonianguest1903 Год назад

I wonder if the full game will have stats for kaiju Jesus?

@MarkPag 4 месяца назад

I recommend you another italian illustrated book about the Last Days: "Apocalypse" by Paolo Barbieri.

@pendantblade6361 Год назад

Dave, those sellswords were dressed as Lanschknechts, that's the opposite of Italian, it's German! Anyway, good vid. I'll give it a look.

@jefftheless Год назад

It's pretty clear that they're editing out portions of revelation that don't lend themselves to a TTRPG adventure setting, and hey that's very fine and good. But given that it's pretty disappointing to see this sold as some kind of actual reading of the book of revelation

@tobormax Год назад

I grew up in a Christian household, and this would have definitely freaked my parents out. I've never really cared for the whole angels and demons portions of the D&D monster manual, because it reminded me a little too much of some of the stuff I had to sit through in Sunday school, but I know there are D&D players out there that will eat this stuff up. Me personally, I've always wished there were better D&D sourcebooks for the intricate machinations of fey courts, since that seems a little more like the type of fantasy I prefer. Maybe there is something like that out there? I don't know? I think the art in this book is amazing, but the theme and what I've seen of the mechanics just don't interest me.

@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Год назад

That sounds like a cool idea to make - making what you wish the game had 😊.

@ronwisegamgee Год назад

As someone with a strong anti-theist bent, I think I'd actually appreciate the setting as purely a fictional setting to explore in a TTRPG (one other than D&D 5e or Pathfinder, something like Shadow of the Demon Lord or World of Darkness).

@ImreRides Год назад

Something tempts me to run this in MörkBorg :D

@chevkoch 11 месяцев назад

It seems like all of the publications by this company would be fantastic books to just sit down and read, even if you never bring them to a table to play.

@DaveThaumavore 11 месяцев назад

Agreed.

@TempleHolyFathercm 8 месяцев назад

It’s a bummer there’s no cleric or paladin archetype classes in this rpg

@Noctis198 Год назад

Oh my lord!

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Indeed.

@StorytellingRon 7 месяцев назад

John IS a HE. God made us male and female.

@f.a.santiago1053 Год назад

There's quite a bit I want to say about this particular topic, but I'll keep to this: 1) I think players could really play ANY race. Just flavor the character as a regular human and have the racial features be part of their mark. 2) The book of Revelations is FAR more than just "the end of the world".

@TempleHolyFathercm 8 месяцев назад

Where can I buy this book on amazon (Players handbook)?

@SamuraiMujuru Год назад

Backed Inferno, if nothing else these folks' production quality is outstanding. Vid gave me a healthy dose of FOMO, too, so just kicked up to the Death tier to get all the physical Inferno stuff I missed, too. 😂

@eclatshwartzbaumcybertune2063 Год назад

Wait wait! - apocalyptic … exotic… exoctalyptic!

@davidbudzik5970 Год назад

Reminds me of the End of the World Series of RPG books.

@mcashed Год назад

Finally a setting that will bring christians and satanists together. Looks awesome!

@markbrooks8623 Год назад

The John of the Revelation of Jesus Christ was John the Apostle, of course. This was always known, and nobody questioned it until the 4th century, and the questioning was from a Egyptian opponent of pre-millennialism who had no personal knowledge to support his contentions. There is no basis for doubting who John was, or at least, no more basis than for doubting who anyone else in the Bible was.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Uhh. Okay.

@LaBibliotecaEterna Год назад

A new game by Acheron Books... Made by the same team of "Dantes Guide to Hell".........BASED ON THE BIBLE'S APOCALYPSE!!!!!!

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

Yeah it’s a pretty good combination.

@LaBibliotecaEterna Год назад

@@DaveThaumavore yeah, they are having extremly inspired moves.

@lcronovt Год назад

Well if is in 5e, it's easy to convert to ICRPG.

@torry3861 Год назад

Aye yo, chill, my pockets are not deep enough for all these games your showing me

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

😅

@echedp8903 Год назад

With this setting God has caused all this harm and has ended the world. I don't see how I could do this setting and not have God as the main bad. Like, it's really just evil when you think of it. I'm sure the way I would run this would offend a lot of people.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

You should do it.

@jimjim292 Год назад

Revelation should have been excluded from the canon, and nearly was.

@DaveThaumavore Год назад

But it’s so zany.

@markbrooks8623 Год назад

It was always part of the canon. It was written by the Apostle John, after all. The first person to suggest its exclusion was Martin Luther, and that only because he couldn't understand it.