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Apple uses the 90-90 rule with their camera app. They please 90% of the people 90% of the time. Those of us in the 10% range will definitely use a third party camera app so we can control the shutter speed, ISO and white balance. I’d like to see a comparison between the R5 and the 15 Pro Max where you use Reeflex Pro Camera and both cameras shooting RAW. And of course using the 48MP sensor in the 15 Pro Max, therefore it would all be wide angle shots.
Exactly. Adding a third party app is not expensive, and for anyone thinking you shouldn't need to (or don't want to) do that, well, that's your choice. Presumably you also only shoot JPEG on your fancy camera and don't ever edit in a 3rd party app, like Lightroom! There are so many photo apps for the iPhone that you should not have any trouble finding one that extracts that little bit more than the standard Apple consumer App does. Like you you say, 90% of the time it does a great (amazing) job. For the other 10% I do use Reeflex Pro.
It's 2024, adding an option to enable advanced features will not make anyone unhappy. They have this option in Safari, you can enable advanced/developer options or use it out of the box as it is. iOS camera app needs an update to control basic/essential pro photography adjustments like ISO, shutter etc.
Yeah but you can also get a 400 dollar camera and make similarly good fotos. What makes professional cameras so good is how adaptable they often are with different kind of lenses
Bro.. phone photos might look good on RU-vid. But if you compare a DSLR pic and phone pic on the same phone, then you'd say phone photos are from the Stone Age. I'm a Wildlife Bird photographer by the way.
@@skandhaprasath2767 Well, nothing compares to full frame with good glass - that's for sure. Just curious as to your opinion: I know that years ago there was a market for point-and-shoot digital cameras because they were better than cell phone cameras. Is there any role for the compact camera anymore, even by the likes of Fuji, Panasonic and Sony?
Honestly, comparing these tiny cameras to a normal professional camera is mind blowing. That goes for all other flagship phones as well. We are getting insane photos and video out of cameras 1/10 of the size. Great review 👍🏼
You may didn't read about it but: iphone 15 pro uses the same main camera sensor that is in iphone 14 pro, imx 803 which is a year old small sensor that uses old tech by Sony. Sony nowadays advertises a brand new family of mobile sensors which is called LYTIA. In fact O neplus 12 will be the 2nd phone to use it this year. iphone 15 series only advances are fixing the 14 series image processing issues which are over sharpening and crushing the shadows + new processor and colors. Apple is so much about lowering the cost so this is really what they did, a software update, aka smart hdr 5, that could be available to the 14 series via ios 17 to solve its cam issues but they made it the selling point for the iphone 15 series.
Apple did a good job hiding this in the keynote. They said that the iPhone 15 got a 48MP sensor and the 15 Pro got an even better sensor than the iPhone 15 - but they didn't compare against the 14 Pro as they usually do. So, the iPhone 15 got a 48 MP sensor, but not the one from the iPhone 14 Pro.
Incredible video man! I can see how you tried your best to keep the images looking similar to each other and came up with the best camera comparison I came across. I watched more than 15 so far.
Alex - I just found your channel - and I love your work. As a photographer myself, I appreciate how you cut through all the BS and get to the point, all while making a fun to watch video, with great editing and music to boot. Nice work sir - and I am now subscribed.
Had the 14 Pro from last year september till this years release of 15 Pro Max. Been using my 15 Pro Max and the images and videos are stunning. Still a bit better than the 14 Pro, which is pretty nice. After viewing your shots it really impresses me, that my 1500€ Phone can shot pretty much 95% of the Quality of the R5. Thats so insane for its size. Great video. Don't know why you "only" have 40k Subs :(
I think ability to shoot H265 LOG is the primary improvement in the 15 Pro, it's so big I initially bought a 15 and took it back just to have LOG. It allows you to use the iPhone as a real second camera, that's huge and shouldn't be dismissed as a small difference - I use h265 LOG with the black magic app.
Thanks for sharing! While watching this video I was thinking maybe I should get the iPhone 14 Pro? However I would like to try shooting in log and not have ridiculously huge files. Also I am Mac based which I think I read that H265 works well with? What size iPhone 15 pro did you get, 128 GB, 256 GB, 512GB? Do you use an external recording drive with your iPhone 15 Pro?
@@PeterSchramm3 14 Pro can't shoot in log. I got the 15 Pro 128GB but I wish I got 512GB, I shoot H265 log internally using the blackmagick app, external recording is a bit clunky.
The biggest problem with cell phone cameras is that they are just horrible to hold and to control the settings, not to mention that it is a problem if you get a call when you are composing a shot. There is no doubt that professional cameras can be made smaller, but what is really important for the pro photographers are the grip and the setting controls, and a cell phone is just "anatomically incorrect" for taking photos - or even to make calls. As an amateur photographer, I will continue to use cameras designated for that, and will only use a cell phone when I do not have a proper camera with me, or when only taking snapshots.
You're not a pro photographer but want to tell them what they need. A pro photographer with an iPhone 7 would blow your face clear off the body if you had the latest tech in photography
@@sixgunguerrillaWith 1500 you can buy a Nikon Z30 + a couple of good lenses,the more you pay the more features and quality you get(but not Leica), a Pro is not going to a wedding to take photos with iPhone but a non pro will use the iPhone and is enough
I went from the 13 pro max to 15 pro max as it was upgrade time for me. It really impressed me. Watching your video I remain impressed. I honestly expected the R5 images would have been very obvious. I didn't pay attention to the 14 at all so I assumed the images would be a little more noticeable, at least some of the time. I use my iphone for wider shots instead of buying a wide lens for my camera. Great video!!
Hey Mark, thanks for posting. I still hold a 13 pro max and I'm on the fence to switch to 15 promax. For all I've seen, the only reason to switch from the 13 is the new Zoom, but I regret it's still on 12MP... any further comments why you're so happy to have switched? Cheers! and thanks!!
The fact that we have to try and guess which photo is which really shows how amazing phone cameras have become. Okay, phone cameras have artistic restrictions, but they win hands down for convenience.
Yea, but i dunno. Thats just not how my experience with them has been. Use an iphone 13pro. Ive always taken images with them before ever getting a camera recently, but i gotta be frank with you. My trouble starts when enlarging the images, even a little bit. It always gives me that abhorrent “smushed” look as a results of that tiny sensor. Even before having ever owned a professional camera, i hated it. I want wallpaper worthy, grand images that i zoom a bit into and enjoy, something that looks real even before any editing happens. A camera can give me that. An iphone? Im just not sure if what im seeing is the same image i took. I have no control over what it has done to my image after all.
Great video! I'm going on vacation next month and was trying to pack light and bring only one lens, but I was struggling to choose between my 35 or my 24-70. This video made me realize that my smaller, lighter, and faster 35 is the best way to go since I've already got a great zoom on me in the 15 Pro.
You mentioned that you lived on the road and couldn’t use Apple log video because of storage space. USB C cable and an external SSD drive are all you need to off load your large files from the iPhone 15 Pro Max. This is actually a great upgrade. I do agree with your comments regarding the camera being similar to the 14 Pro Max. Thank you for the great content!
Oh it's not a matter of having the space to record. It's how much the footage takes up in total. Having to backup and manage those files. Simply not worth it.
Fantastic! I look forward to your review every year. I often wonder why I'm carrying so much stuff!! Do you carry a 24-70 also? Lastly if I may - when you do the print comparison, could you pls zoom in to show the differences. Would really help understand why people make their choices. Thanks for all you do!
I also shoot with the R5 and iPhone 14 Pro Max. Even before I watched your video I decided I would not be upgrading my phone this year. I do like shooting more video with my iPhone than the R5. And if I'm out doing a long hike or riding my bike I won't be lugging the R5 around that's for sure. My iPhone is used when it's most appropriate for me and unless I'm needing to share the photo right away I shoot in raw mode. I just downloaded the Blackmagic camera app but haven't spent much time on it. Thanks for sharing your detailed analysis.
I just switched from the s23 ultra to a 15 pro max and I’m absolutely blown away with the cameras. To be honest I haven’t even turned my dslr since I got my s22 ultra.
@@abobonickname5696ultra does NOT have a better camera… the ultra doesn’t even have a better camera than the iPhone 11… time for you to take your dose of facts this morning.
@@abobonickname5696 it definitely has a higher zoom than the 15 pro max but the cameras seem to be way better on the iPhone for most pictures I’ve been taking. Well to be clear me saying s23 was a typo I meant s22.
I tend to upgrade every 2 years, more or less. If I owned a 14 Pro, I'd have waited to see what next year holds. As it is, I was on the 13 Pro, and the upgrade was warranted. I also tend to prefer a smaller form factor and have never owned a Pro Max as it's too big, too unbalanced for me and not warranted; with the 15 it was the right combination of extra battery, larger screen, reduced weight, curved edges and stabilised 5x lens that pushed me up to a Max and it's great. Zero issues from the first morning of release, and I love it.
would be interesting to see a similar test with older professional dslr's since most phones are $1000-$1500 now, would be interesting to see how they compare to older dslrs that cost way less than the phone. Modern phones are amazing at wide open 1.7, if your old and were around when 3MP cameras were new and the first DSLRs came out, its crazy how far we have come. Pro cameras are still better with physical buttons, start up speed, zoom, changeable lenses, durability(cant drop your iphone lol), etc, etc, but phones have come so far its pretty awesome.
My biggest concern is keeping the coating on my iPhone lens from wearing off and causing haze. My last iPhone (12) had significant haze by the end of its use life. Any recommendations to protect the lenses on the iPhone?
Would be pretty great if you get s23 ultra and pixel 8pro and do this same text ... I think cellphone comparo vids are more in demand since more people own cellphone than r5 or something professional. My 2 cents ... Hate the nose ring otherwise you're beautiful ❤️
Thank you for taking the time to do this! That boat image of the people was also the one I struggled with the most, phone did a great job! Got the other ones right BUT its certainly close! Great points and very honest that there is basically no difference between the 14 and 15
Another banger Alex. I love these comparison videos you do. Looks like the only reason to move to iPhone 15 is the usb c (I think I can manage to carry an extra cable for a while longer and save the AUD$2,050). I think I would print the photo of the people on the ferry. I love that shot. The only thing that I could tell were the hairs on the back of the gentleman's neck - so although I guessed right, I think I could easily haver gone the other way. Oh, and by the way I bought a couple of the maven magnetic filters you did a video on. They are wonderful and I love them - great quality and so easy to use compared to filters I've used in the past.
Some people misunderstood the message of this video and says only professional grade DSLR can beat an iPhone. No, even a budget kit can beat an iPhone image... Or any other phone ofc
Computational photography is really closing the gap on the big camera manufacturers. R5 is $3,500 for camera body alone and the images and video is about the same (in most circumstances).
Yeah but the difference in the kinds of photos shown in this video between an R100, R10 or R5 will be marginal at best. Professional and prosumer DSLRs and MILCs will really mainly improve upon lower and middle priced cameras in focus performance, burst speeds, burst buffers, low light performance, dual card slots, build quality, weather sealing, viewfinder quality, video performance, etc.. They really shine in tough shooting conditions - tracking something fast, shooting in poor light, being out in the weather. Like, an R100 or an iPhone will struggle shooting a bird taking off at dusk, an R5 will track it without problem, and will likely give you a burst of mostly in focus shots that have enough dynamic range to resolve everything you'd want. Professionals mainly need these cameras because they are reliable, if you know how to use them 99% of the shots you take will be good. Just shooting landscape in decent light you'll get 95% of the way to the R5s quality with a 10 year old DSLR. The value proposition of any professional camera or lens is miserable compared to entry level gear, but people earn a living with them so it's not that big of a deal.
These are pretty controlled situations. If you try to shoot something at the limits like indoor sports, or for example my kids trick or treating at night, a high level body with the fastest lens possible is going to blow away the iphone.
@@ChaplainDMK Which means a phone will meet 80% of people needs and cameras will be further pushed into smaller and smaller niches. Which means a lot of things if you are talking about the camera industry. Some players will exit, less choice, higher prices, no innovation.
@@jasonblevins9327 Controlled, but they are common situations. No one is going to buy an R5 so they can shoot their kids trick or treat for $6,000 body and lens. That is the point I was making. Camera manufactures have failed to delivery innovation that would keep them relevant in the 80% rule. I say this has a person that likes cameras and prefers a camera over a phone.
Fantastic video! Is there any change you can provide the comparison pictures in higher resolution? Judging image qualitfy just from a youtube video is quite different to looking at the file itself in my experience
Just found your channel, and I love a challenge. I have not watched past 18:36. Here are my thoughts. First, I was not necessarily trying to discern which unit took which shot. I decided to simply pick the images that I thought looked most natural to me as follows: For the first set taken in the rock arch, I picked B; For the second set taken of the autumn leaves, I picked C; For the third set taken of the fjord, I picked B; For the fourth set taken of the people on the boat, I picked B; For the fifth set taken of the seascape, vertically, I picked C. Now, I'm going to watch the end of your presentation and see what is what... I am prepared to be surprised.
So, I wasn't as surprised as I was prepared to be. It looks like I picked the R5 exclusively. I think the biggest determining factors for me were sharpness (digital sharpening artifacts, and colour). Colour was noticeably poor in the people shot on the iPhone image. Haloing was obvious in the fjord shot, and in most of the other images, edges were simply too hard on the phone images.
@@AlexArmitage I turned the resolution up and then looked for the things I like: smooth (soft) transitions, more subtle tones, and a less sharpened feel. I will say that I really had to look hard on some of the images, and I flipped back and forth between pictures quickly, which really showed the differences. Honestly though the Fjord shot, and the people photo were easy. Look at the mountain to sky transition on the Fjord view, and the magenta colour cast on the shoulders of the man in the people picture. The photo that was hardest to sort out was the one of the autumn leaves. They were all very very close.
For me it always comes down to this, the most important camera is the one you have with you and that’s why I sold my full frame canon DSLR, beautiful pics but a nightmare to carry around. Great video btw, loads of really useful info ❤
It's literally the same camera hardware. The only differences are in software (Apple scam) and the possibility to shoot in LOG on external storage with the 15 pro
Love my iPhone 15 pro max. Takes great pics. You can change the aperture in portrait mode. Works great. I’ve even blown up pics to 16x20 on metal & they are spot on. That said though I just bought a canon R6 mark2. Love it & still learning slowly
Remember, you are looking at both images after going through Google's compression and downsizing. So trying to do real comparisons is off the table. Phone cameras can be pretty good at their native focal lengths, but anything special (long telephoto particularly) is strongly limited. While the sensor is technically 48MP, the Airy limit due to diffraction on that small lens means you do NOT have a true 48MP image in terms of actual detail. It does, however provide some assistance the the software image processing, so the image LOOKS better than it actually is.
I use the apps Halide and Spectre on my iPhone when shooting RAW. These two apps allow more user control over the image. Spectre is great when shooting waterfalls or streams. Still not on the same level as my DSLR, however, I don’t have a pocket big enough to carry my DSLR like I can my iPhone.
I love seeing the accessibility of such powerful technology become more and more widespread... I have recently been reflecting on the advancement of communications technologies over the past decade as most everyone now has a camera in their pocket. And for those of us who are keen and excited about exploring photography and videography, watching these technologies become so powerful and able to fit in our pockets is mind-blowing! I would be blown away if it ever worked out that we could get clear 400mm shots from a phone, or a phone with global shutter! It truly is incredible to think of the stories and content that may be shared 30... 60... 100 years from now 😍
well done!!! Appreciate the details and the quality. Great shots, and insane what a phone camera can do these days, under the right conditions and the right hands of a professional.
You need to spend time in the Pacific Northwest, Alex. I'm sure you have. Everyday is filled with wonder…and tha’t from my bedroom windows. I really appreciated your honest review. Thank you.
If you watch this on a 4k monitor and you are a photographer, then it's easy to see the differences. But the latest iphone has got amazing detail for that size. FYI Sony makes the camera sensors on the iPhone and they make the best ones in the whole digital mirrorless camera game.
Comparing landscape photos only is not a fair comparison. There are SOO many things the iPhone doesn’t even come close to the professional camera- particularly low light/fast shutter speed photos (sports, etc), the fact that is has no optical zoom, no optical focus, no true bokeh, etc, not to mention, overall, the images look flat and boring.
great video, felt like a journey. watched it in 1m in front of my 4k screen 😅 the only time i took the "wrong" R9 guess was with the boat people shot: the bokeh looked better on the iphone and you sharpened the r9's noise making it look ugly (maybe should have increase the "masking" slider to 45 or so in "sharpening"). i was always a samsung user but increasingly jealous of iphone tech lately. my galaxy has had "pro mode" for years now. it's dazzling to learn that one can still not set ISO and shutter speed on iphone. maybe you could include galaxy in the next one for comparison ;) oh and i would love phone makers giving us more PRO controls. Like for dialing back oversharpening, noise reduction and other postprocessing. Oh and i wondered why you would shoot videos in stuttery 15 fps. just some thoughts. thanks for the video again
Hey! I wanted to start by saying that I really like your photographic sensibility and it's clear that you really enjoy what you do. As for the depth of field on the iPhone - just take a photo in Portrait mode, click Edit and there is an option to adjust the aperture, so you can blur or sharpen the background ;) Cheers!
I have an iPhone 15 Pro and whilst I can take some fantastic photos with it, it’s also extremely limited when it comes to action photos, wildlife, etc when it just isn’t any good at all.
I sold My canon mirror less camera to up grade my iPhone . Very impressive camera on the new iPhones , easier to carry to and you don’t stand out in public .
Great video, thank you! Certainly is amazing what the phones can do. You mentioned that using video and log with the iPhone was impractical because of the amount of storage use. How about using a small Samsung T7 or T9 with usb-c while you are recording?
That ends up kind of defeating the purpose of convenience. Also it still doesn't help save storage as my limit isn't the phone storage. it's the amount of storage I have with me living in my car :P
It was great to watch that video and to make the test. I have done it to see which camera made the picture that I prefer! And it was the 15 for me! It was in my project to buy one!
Great video. Of course the larger and better quality the screen or print the greater the difference in the image quality can be seen. But the overwhelming majority of viewing for most people will be done on a smaller screen or print with barely noticeable differences if any. And so because the vast majority of the viewing of my images are on phone or tablet screens I have ditched my full frame camera in favor of a phone camera using high megapixel sensors including a 1 inch sensor for the main shooter. Gone is the heavy backpack and gear that can be damaged by rain in favor of a light waist pack holding a robust water resistant device with actually four separate cameras including a one inch main shooter sensor that also comes with a large beautiful AMOLED screen, 256 GB internal storage, all day battery, smart TV, music player, computer and phone built in! I attached a camera grip which vastly improves the shooting experience. Even shoots 8K video. Absolutely awesome. No I’m not trying to advertise for them as them so I won’t say the brand and anyway a number of the newer phones be they iPhone or others can achieve awesome results especially when used in manual mode.
Beautiful video. However I do not agree that there are no differences between the camera. The showed examples were all in pretty bright conditions. The 15 Pro excells in lower light situations and in portrait mode visibly from the 14 Pro.
I used to be someone that upgraded my iPhone every 1.5-2 years. After my daughter was born I got the iPhone X Max. A year later my son was born. I kept that phone (because it had all their baby photos and videos and I was paranoid) until recently when I came to terms it was time to move on. So last weekend I got the iPhone 15 Pro Max… Holy crap! For context, I’m an independent filmmaker and up until last weekend my soul would die when other filmmakers mentioned they would shoot their project with an iPhone. It made me cringe and die in humiliation for them. But after getting this phone and downloading the BlackMagic camera app (for free!) I can honestly say that the iPhone is a viable option. I’m used to shooting on Arri and RED, but I’m definitely more open to shooting on this phone for smaller things. And while I still prefer Arri and RED, it’s insane to see that phone cameras are catching up so rapidly to cinema cameras in quality. Unreal!
For me as a non professional watching it on a phone with RU-vid compression, the photos look almost identical. I could guess the pro camera only in this shot: 22:26. But IMO Pro in the name of the iphone is misleading. Iphone Pro is just an Iphone and Iphone Standard is an Iphone Limited without one camera and some features. To make a Pro Iphone they need to give all these controls over shutter speed and so on, then it will be Iphone Pro. But even as it is, having such a camera in a phone is cool.
To be honest any modern phone should be more than fine to capture the moment, phones now are essential and we have them with us all the time, my most valuable photos were capture with phones were manufactured 2006. I enjoyed the comparison though keep it up 👍🏻
Non-pro user here. But you can really see the professional camera here with the way it handles certain highlights, it is much softer and more realistic, the iPhone does great as a basic camera, but it is a bit harsh in certain lighting scenes like the waves in the final scene.
Thank you Alex for this comparison. I am about to buy an Iphone 15 Max pro, I am just wandering if the camera can catch the northern lights? Your reply is highly appreciated.
I have the 15PM and am thinking about picking up a 14 Pro refurb so I have the 77mm range as well. When you say night and day, could you say more about why?
I'm only halfway through the video so far, but it's not clear (unless I missed it) - are you shooting raw with any of the cameras, or just SOOC jpg's? I have a Fujifilm X-T5, and a Pixel 7 Pro phone. I find the Pixel's jpg's are over-sharpened, and I can't get the raw files to look anywhere near as good as my Fujifilm files.
I guessed the R5 correctly every time. But with regard to the iP14/15 there it is immediately more difficult. But with more than 50 years as a photographer and photo dealer, you know what to look for. Censor size and the disadvantages of the small censors, it will probably take a while before you can make them completely invisible. The size of the pixel wells, and in particular the depth and the thickness of the walls, which contribute to both noise and - let's not just say confluent colors, it does not deny itself. Therefore, it was in particular the Shadows and Highlights - and the color progression in these that revealed the result and the way in which the final result was represented. Having said all that, I admit that even today I shoot 80% or more of my photos with my phone, because the quality is amazingly good. And absolutely good enough for everyday use. And admittedly, most of the time it was this feeling of what was from the professional camera, rather than anything you could actually put your fingers on. But here the degraded quality in the video also does little, compared to the original photo.
Could instantly tell which was what, without playing the video full screen on a 1080p screen; except the second midday photo. Agree on the fact that it was the best photo it took. While phone cameras have gotten good & are impressive for what they are, it's just not the same.
@@AlexArmitage It's more so the fact it has a more digital look (and while it's significantly better when using pro mode / shooting raw / 48MP) it's still somewhat there. Also I've noticed that often or not pictures from a smartphone can lack "soul"/"depth" (chiaroscuro, sfunato).
I love Newfoundland, I worked there for a while some time ago. I need to tell you that it's pronounced so as to rhyme with understand, or as they say locally, (with a wink) reprimand. Emphasis on the last syllable.
As I watch this on my iPad Pro, I realize I don’t understand why there should be a comparison done for viewing these pictures on small screens. Anything looks good on a small screen, especially those belonging to flagship products, regardless of the brand. The smallest screen I look at my pics at is on my 32” 4K monitors, and more importantly I display my pics on my 4K 55” and 85” TVs. On those screens, there is no comparison between the quality of the pictures I take with my Canon 5D MK3 and any other flagship phone. No comparison whatsoever.
RU-vid algortihm took me here and I am blown away by the quality of content and production. Very nice, informative and fun video to watch, subscribing right away! :)
Would love to see you testing DSLR with REAL phone camera, some phone like miu13 with MotionCam app that can record 8K RAW CinemaDNG, now THAT would be a test😊
Thanks, Alex. My friends use iPhone to shoot inspirational videos for Education for Life (off topic: revolutionary approach to raising happy, successful kids). They've waited for the 15 Pro for one main reason: the ability to lock white balance. But I would buy the 14 Pro at this point because I shoot video with the phone on a tripod where the WB won't change.
I don't think there is anything at all limiting apple from allowing you to lock in white balance on older model phones in software. Which is incredibly frustrating!
@@AlexArmitage The WhiteBalance lock is a ios17 feature so it is also available on older models. I have been using it On and Off according to my requirements on my iPhone 13 Pro.
Yes, when my ancient PC melted down I chose a budget PC build with an ASUS RTX 3060 GPU instead of a Mac Mini M2. Reason: Apple and Adobe have been talking about bugs in MacOS that prevent it from working with Lightroom Denoise AI, which has become essential for my work. My new i5 12600 budget build with the 3060 can process Canon R6 RAW files with AI Denoise in 10-12 seconds which is thoroughly acceptable; very happy with my decision, and very unlikely to let myself be locked in with a single-source hardware/software provider.
with the beach one, i don't get how you are comparing an iphone with a set algorithm that recovers highlights etc, with a straight out of camera r5 shot. The shots could easily be matched.
Thanks for the great video. After watching this I’ve decided that I will never ever get a ‘proper’ camera. When it gets to the point that you have to really study the photos to try and differentiate between a phone pic and a camera, well what’s the point for the average user of spending a lot for tiny differences. This reminds me of photographers, I guess 10+ years ago saying you can’t beat photographic film, digital isn’t as good.
