Apple Made the Quest 3 Better 

Dude you never played vr games... Apple is garbage for VR gaming and that's an objective opinion.

I mean it's easy to put better hadware when price is 7x.

Most people misunderstood what Mark said when he said "the quest is the better product". The product is more than just the hardware, which he admitted was great on the vision. But for the average consumer and the things they want to do in VR it is more likely they'll be able to do those things in the quest. The biggest use cases right now are exercise and gaming. Both of which are much better in the quest. At least as things stand today.

gotta take into account the massive library of games for the quest as well as sideloading due to it being android based, compared to the lackluster set of ipad games for the vision pro

The Quest 3 is a VR-gaming-device, the other stuff is just extra. The AVP is an overpriced MR-Device to comsume mostly 2D-content you could do on many other devices as well. You can't play Beat Saber or HL-Alyx with it while you can do almost everything the AVP does on a Quest 3.

Simping for Apple. Yeah the display is amazing(I tried it) but it's too heavy, too expensive, and lacks software experiences. The Vision Pro better have better hardware for $3500.! In fact, it better replace your existing PC which it does not! As for external mic support people asked for it! And yes! Why wouldn't they want more people giving them free advertising?! Also, voice chat is a thing that people use.

I got a Quest 2 on sale recently for roughly $150 and I’ve been impressed, especially with wireless Steam VR. That’s the killer app.

What the quest needs most is hand tracking in steam VR when you lay down, so you dont have to take three controlers into your bed just for playing Hitman on a big screen

I’m an Apple fanboy but damn this was biased af. The Vision Pro is beefier but all it’s good for is productivity tasks and watching stuff. The Quest 3 has actual games and a lot more people doing things with it to make it usable in different scenarios.

Mogg Zuckerberg defeated Tim Raw in VR Race

The mic thing was for social VR. In other words VRChat, Horizon Worlds, rec room, etc. Meta advertised socializing im VR, and this supports that.

Only thing i wish for a futur meta headset is a micro oled display with great clarity, very few people care about AR applications or passthrough

The apple meat riding in this video is very strong 😂😂

I'm aware of the shortcomings of the quest 3, but so many of the situations you showed it in seemed specifically placed to slander it. There is a best case scenario for everything as well as a worst case. All things considered, the quest 3's anchoring is pretty phenomenal too. I've been able to walk around the house and still have the screen I put somewhere remaining in the same place very accurately. The passthrough is significantly better than I think you give it credit for. It's not perfect, but it's damn good, especially given the hardware it's running on. It's incredibly important to give credit where credit is due, and I personally think that this video was a bit biased in favour of the vision pro. Let's not forget that it also costs 700% of what a quest costs.

10:25 This is not a niche thing... not sure how long you've had your quest 3 but It originally suffered from harsh plosives form the placement of the built in mic. they fixed it with software but an added option for consumers is also nice

Some of these features have been a thing. The pinch and hold for the hands tracking have been a thing since quest 2

Opening up the Meta Horizon OS for other VR headset manufactorers is probably the single most effective step toward earning my trust. I have a Valve Index, and the reason why I've never owned Meta/Oculus VR device is because I don't want to be locked into Meta's ecosystem, buying games that only run on one piece of hardware that I don't even know if I like yet. Now that I'll know I'll have some alternative choices if I make the switch, that's one less barrier to entry for me.

Is now a good time to buy a VR headset? Or should I wait a few more months?

Competition is a good thing, means we all get better things. I got the meta quest pro pretty much solely for steam link, but seeing how smooth everything else works, it makes me interested in the rest of the services it has.

The quest 3 is more usable and accessible. The apple product did not raise the bar, they just put out a super expensive thing that nobody can afford or use.

Genuinely like your content kyle when your not acting like a complete tool!

The Quest 3 has a feature that let's your friends avatar appear in your environment in Mixed Reality mode or your Virtual Environment mode so its not just Apple who has that feature

Horizon Worlds is never going to take off. Rec Room & VRChat own the Social Gaming space.

When connected to a gamepad you can you glance to select menus, I wish I could use that with pinch gesture like AVP, it's just easier move my head slightly than using my hands as a pointer because ins't precise and makes your arm tired

You have grown so much when it comes to video making Kyler! Excited for more!

i have bnoth of them and the quest is so much better to play with overrall.. u can do so much more with quest for WAY CHEAPER!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We already started with nonsensical things at the beginning of the video: 1- Is Apple Vision Pro more powerful? yes it's more literally we don't have VR games for him so how will he use this performance? It's made for productivity so there's no comparison, it's like I have an RTX 4090 to use Chrome. 2- does the Apple vision pro have a better passthrough? Yes, but the difference isn't too big to justify the value, it only benefits from not having distortions like in Meta Quest 3. 3- those eyes that you can see outside the device are horrible, or it's difficult to see them and how much do you see the quality is low.

You can record spatial video on the Quest 3 when you adjust some of the settings. See the video of Hugh Hou about that. I made a spatial video using my Quest 3.

The apple vision pro may be more powerful but let's be honest it really cannot compete with the sheer amount of games available on the quest 3 and when it comes to vr that's all people really care about

Better than Quest 3 in everything except price? lol what? Did you forget what video games are or that sideloading is a thing?

With regards to the Mike thing. I know loads of people who do karaoke in VR are super excited about this, just what I've observed in Banter VR, I'm sure it's likely the same on other platforms.

The quest has always been been a better choice both with pricing and usage. I literally don’t understand how Apple can release a product with barely any apps and somehow expect independent developers to start investing into it when there are no clear interests.

I think opening it up is the only way their horizon world stuff would ever work. Locking environments down to device is what holds things like that back.

UFD Tech, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!

Can I get a link to the deskmat at 0:30

the Vision pro might be better than a quest, but is it 6 times as good, because its over 6 times the price. 1 vision pro, or 6 quest 3,

Regarding the mic, there's one big issue the internal mic had and probably still has: Aggressive background filtering. I was filming while using piano vision and no tune of my (physical) digital piano could be heard. Anything except my voice was completely filtered out. I wished MS Teams would be that effective...

I ended up going with the quest pro mainly because the Vision Pro does have eye tracking but it’s not comfortable in vrchat but quest pro does. Maybe that will change in the future but I already bought quest pro so even vision updates it’s too late for me personally.

Wow, nice update. I had no idea the Quest 3 was updating like that! Maybe time to give it a try vs my Index.

Not About This Video. PC RGB LED's burning components. My PC is next to my TV/Monitor I noticed 2 days ago when background is black, my TV has burnt by the LED's in my PC. Have turned them off(2 days) but still have the burn on my TV with what looks like no change.

I dont think I'm the demographic for vr/ar headsets, but if there was a vut down version that did pass through and game streaming from consoles and pc really well that would be up my ally. I know I wouldn't use the other features or even vr. If that could be at a reasonable price they'd sell me on it.

The reason given for the Meta quest supporting external mics sounds like the ASMR community got a member onto whatever community governs what they work on next. The mic on the VR headset is only 1 input not 2 or more. It also sucks compared to studio mics like he is most likely using for recording this video. So to go along with the before feature to support the R18+ stuff better as that seems to be where that type of thing is used most in streaming which 2+ person vr is a type of streaming. He is correct that the majority of them will be content creators but having features for them is also good.

This video has the greatest thumbnail I’ve ever seen in my entire life.

I've only used my quest 3 for games and the Apple headset has no games or iPhone games only so if you like having fun choose the quest 3

Hmm , quest had higher resolution than vision pro , vision pro uses lens to make the pixels more blurry so it feels sharper , but quest had more pixels. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I'm glad apple made it possible to beef up the Quest 3. I already liked mine, but now it's such an easy to use device. Whatever better the VP can do, it must be phenomenal, because the Quest does a great job already. So good, that it must be phenomenal for me to "upgrade" it to a better device (for the same price). And there's just nothing on the market that can do that.

Umm Kyler I think you found your groove🎉 loving this keep it up man!

The Zuck was actually right. The Quest 3 IS the better product. Maybe not for "spatial computing" and watching video's but for everything else it is. And everything else just happens to be the stuff people actually buy a VR headset for.

I just want Meta to release that cool wristband that is supposed to compete against Neurolink. If you can pair two of those with a Quest 3 and use them as controllers, I'd be happy

I think Apple sold more Quest 3 units than Meta ever could. I have 3k(now bumped it up to 4k just in case) in a separate bank account for when the Deckard goes on pre-sale. I almost kicked an extra 500 to it to get the AVP but I'm not spending that much for anything that Valve doesn't make and isn't 100% supported in SteamVR. I decided to get the Quest 3 because I wanted some sort of update and when the Deckard does come out I only wasted $500 rather than $3500. I am enjoying the pass through on the quest 3, mixed reality games are the only ones I've bought for it and although the controllers suck compared to the Valve Knuckles PCVR works in it really well. It would be nice to get rid of my two monitors and just use a headset but I guess I'll have to wait for the Deckard to do that.

This is your type of videos. Great job

Quest link didn’t have support for 4000 gpus?

Bro just compared a $400 headset to a $3.5k well no shit it's less powerful

They both feel like completely different devices though. Plus - while not cheap - the Quest 3 is cheaper than the Vision Pro, which is an instant plus for me.

Meta is in it for the long game. They're trying to beat everyone and become the next Apple in the VR world. Well, not LIKE Apple but more on the lines of if you think about a VR headset, you think about the Quest. Their goal is to probably be the powerhouse in the future of VR and AR. And they're doing a pretty good job so far.

I tried the Apple vision pro and I have a quest 3 movies on avp awesome fov sucks compared to quest resolution great but is all this worth the price tag hell no .. And yes it's much heavier than the quest 3 period . In my opinion and I can easily afford it I would stay it's worth a 2k price tag but not 4k

Im sick of all the mark hate. Quest is a great product and meta has pushed vr tech forward more then anybody.

The apple vision pro blows 😂 that's just an objective truth

What the hell are you supposed to do with an Apple Vision Pro? Mark is right when he says the Quest is the better product, because the Apple Vision Pro may have better cameras and resolution, but that’s its main selling point, which isn’t great if you aren’t someone who wants to buy a 4 thousand dollar face pancake that you can scroll through apps you already do on your phone on. The Quest allows you to play *games*, the Apple Vision Pro might (idk I haven’t payed attention to it since it’s useless), but controllers are almost required for a good experience, hence why most vr games need them, as they have buttons and triggers and joysticks you can use to move around with. But really, I’m not sure comparing the 2 would be the right thing in the first place, as it seems they both have different purposes, one is mainly gaming with other cool and interesting features on the side, and the other is… idk working and being able to have multiple iPhone apps open at once…? Not all that appealing if you ask me (The Apple Vision Pro’s main audience is probably obsessed Apple fanboys)

Not interested in VR but had to watch to understand the Kyle is the Milkman reference in Hot News. 😂 🥛

all I want from quest passthrough is no warping. that is my biggest turn off using it.

So quest is trying to hit the nich market of the vision pro? Not a bad thing, just makes it even better then the vision pro still

This guy is a natural at speaking to the camera

The vision pro is an absolute failure. No good apps, vr games suck and or not compatible.

i would kill for a black quest 2/3

Good video, hope to see you do more soon. 😊🖤

If Quest 4 has eye-tracking I’m in. You hear me Zucc?!

0:34 if i pay 7x more but i dont even get controllers and have to have a wired battery in my pocket i would feel pretty dumb. The Quest and VP can not really be compared, yes they are both VR Headsets but the Quest is more a entertainment console and the VP is more like a productivity device imo.

The quest 3 Is the better product hands down. The vision pro literally blocks Most things that you wanna use it on. Also blocks logos Blocks adult entertainment Cost as much as a down payment for a car. If you're still not sold, good luck playing Simple games on that sucker. I almost forgot Apple's customer service, Q. mic drop.

I’m surprised you didn’t go to the v64 update’s undocumented experimental features.

just bashing on the quest 3 when theyre built for different operations.

Vision Pro is overhyped and overpriced! Waiting to buy one off eBay 🧐.

the vision pro has no vision behind it and cost a grate sum of money with no reason. It is simple as that....

2:25 my guy they did that for GeForce now players - you should use the the Quest 3 more and you may agree with Mark

love my quest 3

Is it just me that noticed that his quest 3 had a apple vision pro strap💀

I ,Ike Kyle. I wish he was on the daily morning show again.

Kyler is now .."the Milkman"

_"Stony tark" UFD Tech 2024_

Kyle edited out the Chaos Energy!!! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

THEY NEED TO BRING BACK "SHOW MIXED REALITY OBJECTS" OPTION...I'm on PTC v65 and they still haven't brought it back

I wish the Quest headsets had 20-40Deg more FOV. That would be a no brainer buy for me. But I will continue waiting until someone discovers that 90-110deg fov kinda sucks for human vision in VR (at least for those of us who are not seeing tunnel vision IRL)

You're a natural presenter and funny good job

brother is doing spins on it

Windows 11 24H2 no longer runs on processors without SSE4.2

How much apple pays you. You should take classes on biased behavior. You made it too obvious💯

nah de quest can do 99% of vision for 3000$ less

glad the platform is improving but i dont trust meta enough to buy one of these devices

Apple has better. Pass-through and a better UI. That's all I get it. It has better specs but they don't use those specs so you can't really compare it cuz there's no games on the Apple vision pro the Quest. 3, 2 and pro all have game support and the Quest 3 and pro are pretty powerful headsets when it comes to standalone. Plus the Quest 3 is getting an update this year where it has augments

This guy has to have personal beef with Mark Zuckerberg or something.

Is this sponsored by Apple wtf. Where did objectivity in reviews go?

What i got away from this video is that Zuck needs a beard

13:37 KABOOM!!!

Quest 3 is way better for gaming but Vision Pro is better for watching media/web browsing.

I would only trade my quest 3 for a vision pro if i was allowed to sell the vision pro then rebuy the quest 3 and pocket the change.

A lot of wild claims here. I'm going to need some evidence for these "real life friends"

Most reviewers say you can do 70% of what you can do on the Vision Pro. So for an extra 30% is it worth the extra 3k? I'd say nope.

Yo, this guy is hilarious 😂 great video

hey, Apple Vision doesn't even have VRChat! that's totally ridiculous. it's like having a bike without a seat or Windows without Word. for 3.5k$, yeah

If I’m paying 5x the price it better be better ofc