Apple River stabbing trial: Doctor details gruesome injuries 

It’s the dressings more work than the Hutton.

​@@WandaStrumpI guarantee you you could not pull it off the way his doctors did.

​@reynbowarc weird, they never said they could.

Lucky? Like there's a chance the surgeon won't be good in a public hospital? Or bc you support the guy who stabbed em?

@@_J0N_TAFFERI support the right of self defence. You sound like a victim.

Agree! The level of training these physicians go through is mind-blowing! Talk about being married to your profession!

Almost all general surgeons are capable of those surgeries. I'm not sure how it is in the USA. However, that's how it is in the Caribbean. As an intern, my seniors did those types of cases every day.

That's what I thought

The injured were already taking life for granted as they abused and assaulted the old man as a group of punks. Neither will they learn lessons from this event or hold themselves accountable and responsible.

@@PlanetEarth3141 🤡

Also ice in the veins

I don't know you, but thank you for YOUR service.

Why did you need to say 'as a retired nurse'?

​@@hearmenow909 "as a pitbull owner with a mixed child"

@@hearmenow909 because I retired from being a nurse and went into the field of criminology. I wanted a diverse career

Not all life flight nurses are women! IN Baltimore where Shock Trauma is located and where I worked on the Trauma Resuscitation Unit. Our Medevacs are known as " Troopers" because they are owned and operated by the Maryland State Police. Those are Paramedics and State Troopers who are the Medical Personnel on board!

@@margief1798where does it say they were women?I’m just reading nurses. Am I missing something?

@@BeachButterfly22 lol no you are not missing anything , that person wanted to tell someone that so bad they just made up a narrative so they could correct someone with it lol

@@margief1798 Nurse is a universal term, its not gender specific

Real ER/Trauma nurses are the ones that save the majority of lives We get very little credit but in my 25 year career I’ve seen a lot of nurses do some amazing things and catch a lot of things that doctors have missed that ends up making a huge difference in the outcome of the patient

@@robertotorino8862 the fuck are you talking about?

​@@buzzfightbeer8023ops name is snow white. I think it was trying to make a joke.

@@rjrehda5795 bingo

At least you didn’t give all your thanks to God. Thank you for recognizing that humans are capable of amazing things.

@@robertotorino8862 lmao 🤣 That would be hilarious.

I worked with a doctor like this, his name was Dr. Hsaio (pronounced-shaw) If you’re ever in trauma in MN and you hear cowboy boots coming down that hall, you’re gonna live.

@@marythomas1198 I never seen a critical patient there. All I know is John Hopkins is better.

Absolutely, and regions is a busy place....

It scares me to think that I might need a surgeon and guys like this aren't available.

​@@michellesmith702 They won't be soon. DEI practically guarantees this surgeon is the wrong color to get a place in medical school now. Brace yourself, it'll be the wild west soon. Barbers with scalpels everywhere.

Isn't there someone else with face tattoos and diamond encrusted gold front teeth children could see as role models?

@@drewdunn2066not cool

@@drewdunn2066don’t worry DEI will have that very face tatted role model working in the OR in no time

@@amystuckey5900its literally a joke. do you know what a joke is?? noun a thing that someone says to cause amusement or laughter, especially a story with a funny punchline. "she was in a mood to tell jokes"

@@skwid11sad thing is you’re not at all wrong! 👀😩

and they make less that $30/hr 😢😢

Seriously?? That's horrible!!

I agree. EMTs are great. I had 2 strokes. The EMTs saved me.

And the nurse who volunteered at the site!

​@@tonij8322nurses have enough clout. Let the ems have their shine 😂

You know every one pees in the river when tubing and drinking too, just like the ocean. It's just a ugly picture all around...

​@drewdunn2066 everyone?

@@tranquility9325 You've never been to the beach before, huh?

Forget pee and alcohol, think about all the microorganisms in river water!

Mr Miu said he got diarrhea when he was in the water as well❗️ That got washed away in water 😮🤮🤢💩

I was thinking the same thing!

yes the kids hit the lottery!! Impressive resume!! The prosecutor is UN PREPARED!!!

they got lucky they came to regions best trauma unit around

"Fentenal...is that a narcotic?" 😵‍💫

When I was around 6 I smashed my mouth on a wooden coffee table breaking my upper mandible across the gum line. I hit the lotto with that surgeon! Extreme surgery and yet came out with straight teeth no bone issues later and no braces. He was an angel an hood surgeons and doctors are a needle in a haystack !

nurse is like a art degree

@@markusdowney5457 are you ok?

@@markusdowney5457Only someone with no knowledge in the medical field would write that and think it's a win 😂

What a 🥒

Everyone says this when a doctor testifies at trial.

Blessed 🙌

You would think that after that come to Jesus moment that he would stop lying and be a better person.

AJ is not alive.

AJ died

​@Cognitoman when did he die? After testifying in this case?

Why? He’s guilty of assault

​​@@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 u think people deserve to be gutted/literally die for 9 mins over an """""assault"""""? weirdo

​@@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971He didn't deserve to be gutted and almost die. Just stop. Sad how they won't even allow you to tell people to shut up without removing the comments. So sensitive.

@@tullmeister he assaulted a guy. I can tell you know nothing about this case. Stop commenting and get off YT if you don’t like the truth

@@igotfriendsinlowplaces2971 Oh wow super sensitive. Yeah I actually do know plenty about this case. Typical you can't formulate an intelligent argument so you take the low road. Getting shoved by someone smaller than you who is unarmed doesn't warrant the use of deadly force. Then when he was given the opportunity to walk away he attacked again and stabbed the guy telling him to back off. No wonder your friends are in low places. Birds of a feather, ect ..

I feel like the medical costs should be a big part of this lawsuit as well, it is America afterall, unfortunately 😢. The helicopter ride alone can bankrupt many families, then the intubations, countless medical devices and transfusions, emergency trauma surgery where they didn't even close the wound and left him in coma to heal and prepare for another surgery, he spent like months in the hospital overall. That's going to be incredibly expensive even with good insurance 😩

i agree, those kids should share the guilt and costs of their harrassment and stupidity😡 im hoping they all get charged with at least assault. the ones pushing him around and under the water, attempted murder.

When a EMT arrives at a location they call the emergency room and tell them what to expect. Sometimes the Dr gives instructions over the phone as to the treatment. While the patient is enroute helicopter / ambulance ,trauma bays operating rooms etc are prepared . We call all the necessary doctors or / and personnel. Have every thing ready. It’s heart breaking when people arrive DOA because we are in that hyped adrenaline mode ready to try to save a lives and we can do nothing.

@@pazsion I have no idea what you're talking about, the victims already bear all the costs of the medical procedures, that's what my post was all about. The fact that you can get hurt and end up bankrupt just because you needed life saving care. 🤧 And it's funny how you focus on the "attempted murder" of Miu, and not on the - you know - ACTUAL MURDER 😳, and another triple attempted murder committed by him. If you think that is the appropriate reaction to someone slapping and shoving you and calling you mean words, I certainly hope that you don't own any weapons, or even cutlery, because you certainly shouldn't be trusted with it 🧐😂

@@pazsiondo you feel stupid, I certainly would if I were you

Surgeons blow my mind for real.

The lynching was just like witchunt of mediaval times

In Medieval times pregnancy and childbirth killed more people than war. Yet now we’re forcing women who got pregnant against their will to carry their rapists’ babies to term. Interesting how we love medical advances-until women use them to make choices religious people don’t like.

Now that’s advancement right?????

Don’t forget anesthesia! That’s why you’ll NEVER hear me complain about “these days”.

I AGREE!!💯🙏😇

You can’t see it but he was actually wearing clown shoes.

@@irnbrubhoy 🤪🤪

Sweeter than sugar honey 😅

Seeing someone nerd out on their life’s work/purpose is sexy. Dr. Curry in the Johnny Deep court hearing was super hot and for both of these doctors to actually be attractive too is hitting the genetic jackpot.

Of course. He's white.

@@gracie4200Absolutely!

Yeah I also think he may be a little uncomfortable rehashing that moment. It couldn't have been easy with the horror of what happened. But also it's hard when you have to be questioned SO much and it's a slow process 😆 but he did well in staying patient

Jesus!! I'm glad your friend survived his ordeal. How's he doing today? Does he have PTSD from the event?

WOW! I am sooooo happy to hear your friend made it! God was most DEFINITELY watching out for your friend and all of you that night! I hope your friend has made a full recovery with no lasting affects from the gun shots ❤

@@CBaller2020 he immediately wanted to go back to work and acted like nothing had happened. The shock lasted for maybe 3 weeks before it really hit him. He’s okay now but still a little shook up (it’s been 2 years). He doesn’t drive at night anymore and he is always on edge in public situations. I don’t blame him. I’m just happy he’s still with us and I help him whenever he’s willing to talk about his feelings.

The prosecutor is nervous, ill-prepared, not knowledgeable enough to tackle such a big case. He seems somewhat amateurish as a prosecutor. Sorry, that's my take.

The defense attorney for the Nicolae Miu😮 guy was long and ineffective.

they def could have asked better questions

This. I was thinking the exact same thing.

I keep seeing people praise the defense attorney. But I think he's done very little but gaslight and put words in people's mouths the entire case. Sadly, I see many people who think this whole event was justified. Just insane to me.

Thank medical school.

Not gun shot wounds?

​@@ButterflyTwinkle1968 as someone who was shot 5 times. I can tell you I was and am still traumatized. 20 years later. The trauma will always be there. 💜

Not just stab wounds

@@ButterflyTwinkle1968I think gun shot wounds are more just a small tear that bleeds. But stab wounds are big slices where organs and fatty tissue and stuff can hang out. It’s very traumatic to see, more then a bullet wound. I’m thinking body shot, obviously head wounds are different. Stab wounds cause a lot of internal damage and can look horrible on the outside or like a small cut. The boy who died he was disemboweled, meaning the stab wound opened him up so much his insides were literally spilling out. 1 bullet couldn’t do that. Both are deadly though so not saying one is better then the other.

​@@Sara-xk1nsthat dude disemboweled actually survived. The other kid had his heart sliced and almost died instantly.

Fucking well said

This is a beautiful and tragically true comment. One to always keep in mind.

THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO ❤❤❤

'Heaven' is a state of mind; that said, Life Flight & Trauma Surgeons are heroes.

Lmao imagine doing what you do and still believing in a "god". Why didn't god just prevent all the terrible shit that happened and you had to deal with?

As long as we don’t bring up the cost. One of the biggest reasons to file for bankruptcy.

“Victims” lmao

@@erichauser725they are victims, but also idiots for starting shit… all of the people involved were in the wrong

I know what you mean but there was no saving the one who died -- he was stabbed in the heart. There's no fixing that.

The man was the victim. He acted in self defense. They surrounded him and he acted accordingly.

I know! What a dumb@ss question!

😂😂😂

😂

Honestly both lawyers are killing me. The whole situation is sad and was completely uncalled for. From the teens, the old man and the group that came and escalated the situation even more. If the teens didn't call the old man a rapist he wouldn't have no need to walk up to them. If the teens didn't scream out loud and bully him the other group would have never came and escalated the situation. If those women didn't come and get into the old man's face threatening him without knowing what the teen boys were saying his true or not then he wouldn't have punched the bitch in the face. If they wouldnt have ganged up on him and continue to bully and physical assault him he wouldn't have had the need to pull out his knife and stab then. The teens started the whole situation and they are the reason their friend is dead. That man wasn't bothering them they had no reason to call him a rapist. They should be charged for their friends murder

"now uhh i um... do you um know like, where the.. where the heart is.. um the heart.. where the heart is located in the body? Like can you tell us if you um.. know?"

Agreed. Poor prep by the prosecution strikes again!

I agree. Most very talented surgeons have a hard time explaining in layman's terms.

This incompetent attorney is going to botch this case.... It's almost as if he's intentionally not doing or saying things that could help their case

Lazy prosecution

Agreed. Poor preparation by the prosecution

Absolutely

No. It’s a testament to the actions of the people on the RIVER. If the people on the river hadn’t applied pressure, kept victims alert and engaged, more people would have died while waiting for EMS to arrive. EMS did a fantastic job - once they arrived. Bystanders kept people alive long enough for EMS to get to there.

@@HereForTheComments990 No, It's a testament to EVERYONE THAT HELPED. But let's not be pedantic.... They kept them alive long enough to get to the surgeons who then saved their lives.

@@HereForTheComments990 Good point. Both are true...bystanders and staff were all amazing.

@@HereForTheComments990 yes absolutely the bystanders did great also. It was a team effort. I don’t think you understand everything that happened once they got there and what it took to save someone who was dead for nine minutes. You have to be in the field to fully understand what they accomplished. You are right that none of it would have mattered if the people at the river hadn’t acted the way they did. The stars were truly aligned for that young man!!

No it shouldn’t Google it you doing too much they Parents should of taught these lil chumps manners they all bought it on themselves I have no sympathy for stupidity cause now they playing victim 🤷🏽‍♂️

They see real life pictures, they don’t need diagrams. Victims literally pulled their shirts up and showed them on the stand too, which is something I hadn’t seen before. And I don’t think it matters in the long run, they aren’t deciding if the wounds were bad or not. They are deciding if this guy did ANY wound or not. While I appreciate jurors having as much info as possible, I think it’s easy to overwhelm them as well. You have to have a good balance of enough info but not too much. It can cause them to over think or misunderstand things. And they’re already there not being paid, in a fairly long trial, they want it over with as soon as possible. Going over unnecessary info can just make jurors irritated.

​@Sara-xk1ns A picture or scar doesn't show all the intricate inner workings of the body. The jury no doubt got lost in this testimony and more than likely didn't understand the verbiage the surgeon used. The point is to help them fully understand as best they can. Without oversimplification, they won't grasp the seriousness of their injuries. Injuries can speak to the intent of the person inflicting them. For example, AJ's injuries were a result of the defendant stabbing inward near his pelvis and ripping the knife upward. That's very different from a quick stab in the torso. The prosecutor needs to do better if he wants a conviction.

​@@lindseyyoung9149You are correct.

@@lindseyyoung9149 I think you missed the point. It does not matter how serious the wounds were. That is unnecessary information. The wounds have already been covered. How extensive the wounds are, is irrelevant to the case. The attack victims guilt depends on whether his actions were justified, not how severe the injuries were. It would be overwhelming the jury with unnecessary information.

Absolutely

Miu stabbed. Did Miu draw a diagram of where he was goi g to stab? Miu lunged and stabbed.

And those five people were attacking a middle aged, heart patient who was obviously in danger. And being held down in water to try to drown that old man.

@@dixiewade8373 Miu acknowledhge on the stand that he health was not an issue and all he had to do was not to stab 5 people. He could have walked away many times. No one was trying to drown him.

@@dixiewade8373you must be a bot

Brain damage

@@uggggggghhhhhNo, they gave him CPR during flight - when they say his heart “stopped” it means it was not beating on it’s own.

They were giving him CPR in flight, so his heart was ‘beating’ manually, not on its own - no electricity- but they were making sure he was getting perfused.

I wonder what concocted super hero story it will be by then🤔

@@EE-uj6twit might be an out of body experience.

Amen

Stop grouping God with actual miracle workers. Thank you.

He said do you only do trauma or scheduled surgeries?

That’s not what he said tho 😂

He's trying to discredit him as a surgeon

Dude did you have trouble with comprehension? He asked if the Doctor does only trauma or scheduled surgeries. These are two different things. You don't "schedule" in a trauma patient. Lol

To be fair, I worked with an orthopedic group of doctor's and some of them would be on call for emergency cases that came in through the ER, but they also had their clinic where they saw patients who would schedule elective surgeries. The doctors weren't "trauma" surgeons, but they performed surgeries deemed traumatic. I don't know why this lawyer is trying to "dumb down" the doctor's expertise. This doctor has more smarts in the tip of his pinky finger than some of these defense attorneys.

Listen to the testimony again. There was no implications on the part of the Defense.

@@melb1215 Defense atty was asking specifically about the trajectory of an injury changing based on what a person is doing (AJ pushing Miu). 21:25 you can see he is clearly caught off guard and his flow is totally thrown off as he realizes that statement is NOT beneficial to his client and he cannot use it against AJ, as his actions are actually saved his life. There was no gotcha or benefit to that line of questioning because of the surgeon’s analysis of the outcome.

Doesn't matter if it was better or worse for AJ because none of that is the point of the trial. The lawyers just making the point that the way injuries occur are dynamic so the actual injuries created during a fight is not necessarily solely because of the intent of Miu.

Yeah, you could see the wind go out of his sails when the doctor totally undercut his point by saying this obvious reaction to push your assailant away almost certainly saved his life even if it might have caused a longer wound. Though even that is highly questionable since the murderer seemed intent on doing as much harm to these people as he could so it is not out of the question that he pulled up to try to gut him.

@@alwa6954 what the doctor is saying is.... if AJ wasn't pushing Miu when he got stabbed the knife would have gone deeper into his abdomen & he would have never made it to the hospital. But because AJ was in the process of pushing Miu when he got stabbed the knife didn't penetrate deep but rather due to the trajectory of the knife AJ was left with a longer, more shallow wound.

Putting your hands on someone is not taunting. Nobody has a right to touch you.

Also! Miu came up to them in a menacing / strange manner … and with a hidden knife. Miu is 100 percent psychopath. He could have walked away at any time. Those kids were drunk and high - they were laughing and having fun - Miu comes over looking for trouble. They had zero idea he had a knife on him and was going to use it.

@@linzlulubellhe PUNCHED an unarmed girl and murdered one boy and attempted to murder four others! He gutted a child and stabbed another in the heart! He’s absolutely GUILTY!

​@@shannonhawkins3296they were 17 to 24. none of them were children. 😊

​@@smurf90217 is a child you 🤡

Yeah, a dumb question

​@1Dogsoldier4life Not really. There are some surgeries people are conscious for.

@@yolandawilson6619 For this specific topic, it was a dumb question. He was coded in the Life flight as a trauma patient with mass transfusion protocol already in progress for 8 or 9 mins. Then again entering to O.R. It's not botox injections.

​@yolandawilson6619 I can vouch for that. I've had six awake surgeries, five on my eyes and one abdominal. It's okay as long as the nerve blocks work.

@@erynlasgalen1949 Exactly!

He’s a surgeon. He can afford a suit. 🙄

Objection. Relevance.

😂😂😂

Can you tell me um where was your smart suit located? I mean where did you buy your suit, I want one. Oh and were the victims wearing suits when you were erm surging on them?

He also knows how to answer questions. Clarifies, clear answers and to the point, does not give extraneous information unless specifically asked, etc.

You know, to dull the pain.

Not to mention, defense is asking the surgeon questions about if Miu got shoved, if the wounds would have been worse. He's not a forensic expert, he's a surgeon. (Though he really knows his stuff!)

SAME!!! I loathe this defense attorney!

You might be disgusted but it goes to show these people were of their faces

I love the defense attorneys. These were some very entitled kids partying drinking illegally alcohol levels were way over the alcohol limit. Now, their stories are off. Selective memories. Had they kept floating along this horrible senseless act would have never happened!! They’re NOT KIDS !!

They are hayseeds. Their go-to is "Is this fair?" , "Does this make sense?" and "Correct?" over snd over. They wouldn't make it on Bull.

Defense has a 50 plus heart patient that was mocked, ridiculed then pushed into a river several times and slapped and laughed at by a mob of ruthless teens....if I were that man wt medical issues against a spry n lively mob of teens, I'd be scared for my life....hope this defense lawyer gives it his all......

What else would the defense do? You gotta mitigate.

You're not alone here. I haven't listened all the testimony but any time I have heard this prosecutor, I'm flabbergasted at how bad he is. Good God---if this is the "A-Team", that office is in deep deep trouble.

Yes.

They need Susan Opper and her team from Wakesha....this judge is ALSO allowing these lawyers to wander ALL OVER the place....they need Judge Dorow!!!!

I heard that and thought the same thing

Not really. USC in L.A. is where we do the most trauma. This doc is small-time.

@@Cwgrlup keep gatekeeping

@@Cwgrlupcool story…

@@Cwgrlup oh yeah something to be proud of. Guns and knives club.

Because he is horrible

Because they picked his name out of a Cracker acker Jack box 😂

Right! A mess

Hahah. I was thinking that.

So regular people who don't speak or understand medical lingo can get the picture

Exactly!

Exactly what I see also!!

Absolutely! AND Miu knew exactly where on the body to hit each of them to do the most damage. AND he never tried to scare them away first by warning them. If I were police, I'd seriously be looking into Miu's history to see if he's killed anyone else in the past.

The bald attorney is so apparent with his agressive demeanor. The jury sees his bullying of witnesses

Honestly I find it a mute point. Either he caused the entire wound, or he's blaming the person for reacting/moving when being stabbed. Neither is a win for the guy.

I know he stabbed over three times on the girl, gutted the kid, and stabbed his friend twice, that man was way way over excessive for something he started.

Yes and when the argument started at first with just the first group of kids, you can see him walking towards them with the knife already in his hand. I don't like taking sides, but if someone was calling me names, humiliating me, like this man went through has happened to me, but I never ran to get a knife and confront them. I just went up and asked them why and what did I do for them to treat me like that? And at the end we were all talking and chilling. And yes they were drinking as well.

@@yonnes42 That’s what some people commenting here call self defense. I’m completely lost on that rationalization and how insanely unthinkable it is to come to that conclusion. He brutally cut real people like slabs of meat and reacted like they deserved the learn a lesson. Beyond sick.

@@kathystokes5127 It usually works a million times better to be proactive instead of reactive. I might have asked them to give me a hand to find the phone I was looking for and 20 bucks for whoever finds it. Absolutely anything else would have been better than what happened.

​@yonnes42 You didn't watch the video from the beginning. It starts where the six 17 year olds are shouting that Miu is looking for little girls. That he is a perv. That he is a pedophile. They cussed at him and yelled obscenities. They brought others over to join in. There were then 13 against one. They hit him, punched him, slapped him, pushed him down into the water repeatedly. When he got up, they did more physical abuse. Isaac lunged at Mr. Mui and was choking him. While he was lunging forward choking Miu, he went right into the knife. Miu stabbed those that were assaulting him. He did not lunge at anyone. He was not swinging the knife around. It was in self defense. Watch the video.

You're annoying

Yes you are right. This is not a self defense case as I initially thought. You don’t get to do all that just because people are taunting you and calling you names and yelling at you to leave. Apparently he did hit first since so many people testified to it but you couldn’t see it in the video because it panned left. The video did look bad so I jumped the gun thinking they attacked him first. That doesn’t seem to be the case at now though. Especially after watching the full interrogation.

this is totally self defense if you watch the slo motion the fatal one the kid was lunging at him. they had a bully mob mentality. its like when someone robs your home even if you see them 3 houses down you cant blast them, but if there coming at you then the ball is in your court to defend yourself. and i would of left after to. look what happened to kyle rittenhouse when he tried to stop to help the bald headed guy he blasted a mob around him started to come after him. nobody is going to let you just chill after you just shanked everyone in self defense when your alone

@@MelodicMizeryPs3Vids all I’m saying is. Why was he over on the other side right where these kids were ?? Their was nothing said that he was over at that spot before that he would have lost his phone??? WHY didn’t he just leave the first time the kids told him too he stayed and that’s when things got out of control . All of this could have been prevented One young boy lost his life and four others stabbed. What I was seeing in the videos was him right in the middle of there space , all he had to do was turn around and go back to his group . As he said kids will be kids they were all drinking even this guy so he said he was frighten for his life , Then why didn’t he just leave he had many chances ti do that before he stabbed these kids . This is just my opinion watching him testify was painful him saying. I don’t remember , how is it you don’t remember anything on such a horrific incident. Then to lie about the knife and throw it away ?? Get into the cops car and act like he didn’t know what was going on. ??? To leave the Seen and not be accountable for his actions if he felt he was right to then talk to the police ,but he said. “ I was afraid of everyone even the police “ ???? I could go on but it’s just making me more angry that people are so stupid with their actions. 😡😡

​@@doreenmills4487whatever. They kept pushing him down calling him a pedophile trying to get the crowd against him. Too fucking bad

It’s unfortunate a young man is dead and 3 people had surgery but actions have consequences. The kids actions led to a man defending himself. Wisconsin law since 1801? Allows a man to protect himself. You or I might not have felt like this was a life or death situation but Mui did and he defended himself from people who were drunk and violent and hitting him, choking him, shoving him underwater. 12 people fighting one person is threatening and Mui had a right to fight back. Nonetheless, it is sad a man is dead and the other drunk and high kids had to have surgery. I feel bad for those that responded at the lake along with the police.

Yes! 100% medical, 0% devine.

@@Cory_Springerevery man is a non-believer until they’re in a foxhole

@@zacharyhunt3939 Plenty of people are believers without ever seeing a foxhole. And there's many atheist combat vets. In my experience, ALL combat vets.

@@zacharyhunt3939 Absolutely true.

@@pkz420 That’s surprising, usually it makes them value life more

Interesting point and explanation - sounds so logical when put that way. And a term not commonly used. Defensive Aggression. TY

Absolutely, except this guy was a stone cold killer who immediately knew he had done WRONG.

💯 agree

@@alinebrandau3982Where are you going when you watch the video? Rhetorical question. Please, I do not want to be beat down with experience.

Thar group of drunk and high teenage boys are murders. They are the reason their friend ended up dead and the others hurt. They started the whole situation and bullied that man.​@@alinebrandau3982

That tickled me😂😂

Actually the defense attorney is amazing. I believe he's the one who got Rittenhouse a not guilty verdict. Doesn't bode well for the drunks 😂

@@88keys65 drunk teens having fun on the river vs psychopath with a hidden knife and bad intentions … sure hope the jury gets it right. Those kids aren’t the brightest crayons in the box - but Miu absolutely started it all by approaching them in a strange way.

@@pjnix5618 you must lead an unusual life. Mine, however, doesn't include the fun of hitting kicking and punching people and calling them a pedophile. Guess we have different ideas of what's fun.

@@pjnix5618amen. He needs prison time.

I’m afraid these lawyers are going to lose this case This guy deserves prison time.

Omg how awful I’m glad you made it

@marythomas1198 Thank you

Not for moving for shoving attacking

@@nadagabri5783 Guy clearly cut upwards

@@SmartDumbNerdyCool not the knife didn’t go upwards. The guy was lunging at him, his arm went up. I’m saying it wasn’t intentional, you think it is intentional. We disagree. Oh my gosh Civil War.

Watch the testimony of the primary witnesses. The defence lawyer was speaking for them and using all sorts of trivial and irrelevant things against them. He maybe as well have just looked at the jury and said " I have nothing to say which can possibly cast doubt on the prosecutions case"

it looked like reflexes took over. there wasn't enough time for him to react any other way, dont think the stab was intentional or malicious. and then you have to remember the guy was being surrounded on all sides

He shoved the gun in and dragged it up, I think.

Watch it again. AJ is moving forward, toward Miu

​@@BxBxProductions.. Agreed

@@BxBxProductions Isn't it past your bedtime?

Yea those boys could've just left that man alone and caused all this horror, I really am disgusted they're not being charged.

You can have your knife out for self defense reasons if you think you're going to be attacked which he was

The 110 lb girl was stabbed first. He started the fighting part, they were just being young and dumb. Self Defense on hitting a female in the face then stabbing Riley? If he wouldn't have put his hands on these women, I don't think no knife was going to be needed. Because that's how the fight broke out, the men got pissed for this freak to start going knife crazy. And on another matter, if that was me I would of had someone call 911 And let them know that I was attacked and I believed I had stabbed someone because of self defense. Not when the cop opened the door and asked if he was okay and not to cold, and he said "No but I heard there was a fight and someone was stabbed and I fit the description, and hides the knife he uses all the time. Then still gets to the police station acting dumb. Just be honest and not quilty.

​@@kathystokes5127where was it stated she was stabbed 3 times?

Agreed. I caught that too. Doc: no, had it not swiped up and been just a straight stab it would have been worse. Had that happened he wouldn’t have survived. (paraphrasing). At least that’s what I got out of it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

Well yeah he was being bullied and assaulted expect a clap back. These youthful thugs are capable of anything.

So deadly force was required to be used on 5 people?

The large group of teens behavior towards this man was deeply disturbing.

This assailant was very thorough and didn't have to wait 7 days to get his weapon. Scarry how a weapon that's been around for thousands of years is still very effective.

@@Patriotforever32 At what point do you allow people to beat you to death or drown you? Four people? Six?

They aren't victims. They're drunk ahole teens that wanted to bully an old man that turned out was crazier than they were!

Exactly right. So many folks excuse Miu because he must have been so traumatized by stabbing these kids, but are quick to criticize the actual kids who have been stabbed.

@@rayfk4 Agree. So the kids were acting like frat boys. So what? They weren’t armed. They weren’t violent. Miu approached them. 😡

Why are you calling them kids???!!! These were not kids. They have common sense as well. “Kids” do not consume alcohol, these are young “adults “ I hate they got injured but what did the expect? They didn’t expect someone on a river to have a knife, period. Do you think they would have been taunting, bullying, and assaulting him if the knew. Their parents should be ashamed and blame themselves, they clearly don’t respect elders, strangers,space etc… now they have to deal with sorry not sorry 😢

Irrational behavior like trying to drown an old man clearly holding a knife, yes.

Very true! But too many people with twisted thinking and blaming these kids and their alcohol consumption is appalling! What they are saying is, is that these kids deserved to be stabbed and one gutted for bullying! This psycho “chose” to deal with the situation the cowards way and take them all on with a knife!! Makes me sick and I hope he rots in prison!

All the officers said they didn’t test him because he appeared to NOT be under the influence of anything, he seamed completely normal. He is in his 50s, he is allowed to drink by law 😂

We must remember that these kids were not the aggressors. He was! Their drinking was not the immediate problem! His aggression was the problem. He came over to their group and was asked to leave, which he did not do. The fact that he got pushed was normal consequences for his aggressive behavior. Trying to say that it was the kids' fault for pushing him is ludicrous!

He tried to help him so try again.​@chavaspada

Well, the teens kept hitting him and knocking him down.

@@humansvd3269True but he was the adult in the situation. He could have walked away and went back to his own party. But instead he ended up killing a teenager..what a loser!!

@@agelessbeauty9136 They were all adults, teens know what they're doing

That’s his job. He’s the “defense” attorney.

Look who's on trial here. Not the young folks.

So did they but they outnumbered him and figured they could handle the old man easily. They could have easily killed him as well. It was all fun and games until the knife came out.

I agree with you. If it were just the video, I think he probably could have gotten away with a self-defense plea. But his actions AFTER are really incriminating. I hope the prosecution really leans into that. This guy deserves to be convicted.

You say that until you or one of your five spawns are assaulted and intimidated by a group of inebriated degenerates. He in the video tried walking away and these man-children did put hands on him. That is called battery.

You say that until you or one of your five spawns are assaulted and intimidated by a group of inebriated degenerates. In the video he was trying to walk away initially then these man- children put hands on him, which by law is battery.

~ Well said. Miu is a cold blooded killer and a lousy liar.

Well. This a clear case of an immovable ahole meets an unstoppable ahole! Everyone should be in jail!

Okay, call it what you want. But it was at that moment those kids knew they fu.. up! I bet all those kids learn a very valuable lesson. Not one of them will EVER team up to harass another old guy again. Too bad they had to learn the hard way.

The kids shoulda left him alone, maybe picked a fight with someone else

@@johnnyreb280old fella shoulda walked away loonnngg before - don’t mess with bulls if you don’t want the horns 🐂

@@johndavis7078no the next time they’ll just hold him under until the bubbles stop. 🤷‍♀️ old timer should a walked away.

Yeah, I keep seeing these comments about bullying and harassing the poor older guy. Older guy approached them, older guy put hands on them first, older guy had several opportunities to leave, and older guy just started stabbing anyone around him including a girl. Dude went full Psycho stab mode. Were the kids obnoxious, yes...absolutely! But older guy Miu should have walked away. Blame all around but most blame and severe injuries and death were committed by one person who chose to stay in the mix. He most obviously did not fear for his life.

Smoke and mirrors defense tactic.

@@sunnyd4125it was sooooo bad.