Apple River stabbing trial: Nicolae Miu takes the stand 

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She was both drunk and high and she has to live the the shame that those substances can cause. She likely would not have done that if her judgement wasn't so impaired.

And this justifies Miu killing a boy and wounding several others? 😮 Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me… But a knife to the heart kills! Lesson: Don’t bring a knife to a verbal altercation with unarmed teenagers! WALK AWAY! Be the bigger man!

So by your standards that Savage sliced those kids to ribbons and she's just as responsible because she was being a silly teenager who had too much to drink, that's what you're saying,?! And just so you know, no one uses and I mean no one uses a knife that way and hasn't had the experience that he's had. I can tell you this, that knife that he had was made for assaults, a short blade knife is more suitable for close combat than what you would think of big scary knife would look like, he's done that before, I wish they had to take the time to go find out some of his background in romania. Is a murdering Savage and you're trying to hold that little girl up and make her as comfortable as him for what he did to those kids.

@@jenniferdokken8250yes it does 🤷‍♂️ not everyone is going to let your white kids say whatever they want to them

Young entitled, disrespectful “adults” This is the future of our country. 🤬 I can just imagine how they were raised. This man was defending himself.

@PennyTinkelberg Are you inside doing time for attacking kids? Perps always blame the victims.

@@jacquiej5330he was the first one to make contact. He punched a girl in the face and after he was pushed away he started stabbing and gutting anyone close enough.

@@ashleyschmitt32 Watch the defense video for fuck sake, he never layed a hand on that woman since she didnt have a mark or bruise and had a drink on her the whole time. the friends even lied about him hitting her "with a hook" when he had a knife on the same hand. they pushed him multiple times and even slapped his face, thats when the 17 year old pushed him around the neck area and got stabbed. self defense plain and simple. if he had actually assaulted that woman they would be doing much wors than pushing him and slapping.

@@lordenvincarhow about watch the actual court case. He stabbed multiple people for no reason, then fled and washed off the knife and acted like he knew nothing lmao

*Imagine trying to enjoy a nice warm day only to find yourself charging at kids, pushing them off their tubes, accusing them of stealing your friend's phone, slapping a teenage girl, and gutting 5 other teenagers, discarding the knife you've been hiding, telling your friends one of the kids stole your knife, telling the police you have no idea what is going on and you heard there was a stabbing, finding out they have a video of you doing the stabbing, trying to then say -- after being caught lying multiple times -- that it was self defense, and getting thrown in prison. Fixed that for you.

@@maria89so many brainrotted people in these comments i have no idea how they’re so dumb to not be able to see that this guy is a maniac

Imagine you lost your cell phone in the river and you don’t even go to find it. You send your knife, wielding, friend who’s looking for girls.

Immigrants when they land in the u.s on a visa wanting to become citizens.

Well unfortunately my guy it is a constitutional right to own a firearm but state laws are governing the right to exercise that right of self defense to an extent in most states that aren't stand your ground states.

Don't live in a democratic city or state and you will be just fine.

Unreasonable doubt. In the court room. It's a game of rock paper scissors. Bear hands vs knife Bear hands vs weapon Automatically the problem w bearing arms. Is that you have to be 100000000000% sure. You pulling a "deadly" weapon is always a lawful intent to kill and or protect. Even if he's protecting himself. He still stabbed him. They don't care about his intent and feelings. They care he pulled a knife against someone WITHOUT a knife. Aka it's never an equal fight. Therefore he's in the "wrong" even if he didn't start it. He finished it. And that's where court comes to "justify"

​​​​@@unkiindg Not what self defense is. You have to have a reasonable fear for your life. being mobbed by a crowd and pushed underwater and hit when you're elderly with a heart condition is defending your life. If the law of self defense was how you define it then Rittenhouse would've been wrongly convicted

@@fifthtyp3 Rittenhouse made numerous attempts to walk away and flee, there is a difference in non stand your ground states. He has no legal right to continue an altercation without first assessing if he could or couldn't flee. Southerners claim to be Christian, yet hop on the first chance to take a human life , one of the worst sins one can do. Just because your feelings and ego is hurt, doesn't mean you get to stab everyone, including people who didn't even assault you.

Wtf is wrong with you! Under no circumstance is it okay to stab multiple people all because they pushed you! What the hell is wrong with you! He is an adult and could of walked away he probably could have fuckd all them kids up with his hands he didn’t need to stab them what the hell is wrong with you

Agreed. If I bullied a man into defending himself and one of us got hurt…. Like wtf he has the right to defend himself. I’ve seen those videos of AJ pushing him over and over. I would’ve been terrified if someone did that to me

The right to defend your selfs with knife’s? What the hell is wrong with America! 5 teen kids provoking you dosent give your xl 50 year old ass an excuse to stab 5 people are you okay?

He wasn’t in a self defense situation

“You would have been terrified” oh, boo hoo! And so you would lash out and stab everyone because you’re mentally unstable and can’t control your emotions? tf is wrong with you they didn’t even propose a threat to him

That what I've come to.

They literally accused him of being a child rapist and pedophile..

@@keli449 Yeah but those words don't make it right to run up on their group, invade their space and then stab them when they react. Clearly NOT self defense in the least.

The way the kids were laughing, filming while trying to jump him was pretty sick

I agree but not an excuse for violence. But I understand how being taunted and harassed does not bring out our best.

Completely agree! If these are just “kids” then their parents should’ve been present and teach them some lessons. These are adults in my eyes. After watching the video I can see why he was so fired up. These youngsters need to be held accountable also

@@lmyt8610 The issue is he ditched the weapon and then lied repeatedly. Have you seen the video? Have you actually seen this video? Or his original interrogation video? If he is so innocent why did he ditch the weapon and then pretend he never used it. But then acted like he never said that when the video was produced?

@@popermen694 I saw the video. I believe he got scared and lied about it and that’s definitely why he lost the case but in general it is not acceptable to be treating anyone in this way/behave that way. It was 13 against 1 so he knows he’d be going to jail but good thing they leaked the video that showed how mean these teenagers were to him. I have a child being bullied at school and not even as aggressive as they were being. She’s a 9th grader and so suicidal. She doesn’t want to go to school so I understand that they should be accountable for their actions also. If my daughter dies one day I’m suing the parents for “not parenting” already spoke with the school too.

​@@lmyt8610😅😅😅😅😅9😅😅😮😮

@@lmyt8610 it was not 13 against one it was more like 2 against one, but by that point he already had his knife out. I would understand your argument if they attacked him out of nowhere but he attacked a woman first, then the teens retaliated which he responded to by stabbing 5 of them. Yea man self defense! 13 against 1! youre definitely not retarded

Those kids saw that he was looking for something, they could’ve helped him look, if they were decent, helpful kids.

Not only is he not guilty, he is being convicted for brushing Madison’s hand away from touching HIM. Convicted on a lie.

he gutted a kid.. and killed another and you are saying he is not guilty?!?! you are insane. of course bullying isn't okay but that's a grown man and those where teenagers.. he literally then acted like nothing happend afterwards too.

​@fleapo0p2946 Not guilty by self defense. In the video the knife was after being put under water twice while being hit from multiple people. Also, he didn't go after anyone the people stabbed came at him. If he had done nothing they could have drowned him. Just because there teens doesn't mean they can do no harm to others. Afterwards he was in shock that was traumatic event for all involved and probably forgot that he was being recorded. Their words against him, and they too lied when first talking to the cops. It's sad someone lost there life an it's even more sad that a parent had to watch their son act like that in his final moments. My heart goes out to them. This is truly a no win situation.

@SamiVanMehic you do relized everything you said is still not a reason for him to do THAT also you know they were never going to drown him they were just bulling hum like stupid teens do , he also fled the scene and acted like nothing happend.

All of them teenagers I don’t care 17 or not they all in specially the black one he enticed a riot on that poor man calling that man a pedophile calling him a rapist OK he did all that mouthing off starting with that poor man because he wanted to make a video so you can sell it on the Internet all of them should be charged with assault he’s being charged they all should be charged to

If it was Florida they would of learned that the F in Florida also means F around and Find out!

Pretty sure they did find out… I don’t think the need any punishment, at least not an he’s been through enough after that

@@Brooklyn.NewYork that "poor man" was just looking for an excuse to stab someone to death.

@@WarrXior Cell phone* He was looking for a _cell phone._ Stop breathing my oxygen.

Agree.I believe these adult children wouldn't of let him walk away..They had no respect for this man at all.He went to river to enjoy.

@@twinky4839they didn’t let him walk away and the 2nd group really made things worse by inserting themselves and escalating to violence. 100% not guilty.

God please help him out of this situation 🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿

A 60 something year old man shouldn’t be gaslighted. It’s almost funny. He was drunk as could be. So some teenagers messed and hollered at him - WALK AWAY YOU ‘ADULT’. Give me a break. He KILLED a teenager. An immature adolescent teenager. Yeah. That gives him complete authority to kill someone and stab 3 others. You’re literally insane and not fit to be in public situations.

Eewh! Your discernment is off!

I'm rewatching the trial videos to try to figure out what I missed. It all seems obvious to me that, this was crystal-cear self defense, but 12 people in Wisconsin convicted the poor guy... I'd love to have a video of the judge, explaining WHY he feels that justice has been served.

Pretty sure its because he has white skin.

@@aamantium1 I completely agree!!!

@@seen69 you're not cool or funny

@@aamantium1 Watch the video of the vent closely and you can see that he actually pulls the knife before they push him down. He pulls it when that woman comes up and gets in his face, taking a swipe at him, and is just standing there holding it. To me, this suggests he didn't pull it out of fear for his life. I still think it could be self defense, but I think his already flimsy "fear for my life" argument is weakened by the timing of when he pulled the knife. I dunno.

Manly

She was protecting the minors. Trying to run the bear off.

@@warmlantern0000not likely. More like starting shit

@@warmlantern0000 she didn't even know what the problem was as she was not initially involved and instead of trying to calm everyone and get both sides she immediately took the sides of the teens and turned on her masculine energy knowing full and well that she could get away with being aggressive and physical because there were 12 people behind her and of course she only gets a smack to the face while the white knights get stabbed.

@@warmlantern0000- the kids were the ones instigating the situation- she came in thinking she was going to take charge and she assaulted the guy.

100 percent

Seems to me that none of this would have happened if the adult kept walking back to his group rather than returning to face a group of drunk teenagers because his feelings were hurt.

The state of the US is dreadful. No common decency. Kids now conditioned to handle things with. violence instead. Parental guidance is all but gone. The so called adult only worsens it nice role model bi*bo!

Tell me you've never floated a river without telling me you've never floated a river. 90% of any adult who floats a river is drinking

Exactly

Those teens are vile and what they did wrong , but the way he reacted wrong. You don't stab someone and intent and strength rip the knife up to do maximum damage. His energy in the video and even in court is of a man that's easily angered even though he's trying to be nice. Also did you notice how extremely suspicious he paused before answering if he felt threatened? While with other questions he rapidly and confidently answers yes or no. And if he was so frail that day why was he volunteering to look for the phone? He felt fine , he got offended, rightly so, and lashed out with excessive force, not rightly so

Na. I don't think they did. He killed a kid and stabbed 5 people. That is not innocent especially when you consider he left his own group to confront the loud kids, his group did not follow him. His own group was so far away from the teens group he had no business approaching them. You can say "looking for phone" but that is simply his excuse to approach them. He got mad and stabbed them because feelings hurts.

@@stevenharper7118 so you ignore the part they ganged up on him, tried to drow him and assaulted him repeatedly.

@@blankspace4358 Steven likely suffers from TDS. Eventually it blurs all rational means of reasoning.

@@stevenharper7118 Hurt feelings? Those people attacked him? They literally had physically assulted him before he stabbed them? Everyone is entilted to defend themselves, if you don't want to get stabbed, don't attack random people.

Agreed! No one is talking about their underage drinking either. The deceased boys alcohol level was enough to cause poisoning. It was a .219.

@@Munaluv3 - Plus weed.

That does not condone murder in this case.

@@GoodisBest4u I fully agree with you.

@@GoodisBest4u No it doesn’t but you can’t deny that the “boys” and the two females didn’t instigate things. If I had a quadruple bypass and I had ppl pushing on my chest and knocking me into the water I’d defend myself too.

He wasn’t scared at all too

Haven’t seen one video of Miu looking scared…..

They were too busy having drunk fun beating on an old guy that they saw completely vulnerable to their attacks. Oops, I guess using another human being as your punching bag ain't the thing.

​@@A-JaxxxI saw him with a creepy smile

I have yet to see one frame of the video where Mui looks scared.

Europe is a fallen society..

lol. Bye bye. lol @ this person thinking this same thing couldn't happen in Europe.

Y’all’s rational of bullying=stabbing is wild

@@shadow6024I know, I’ve had my jaw on the floor for days now, just fucking stunned at the mental gymnastics

Social media ..they were filming

So surounding a man with a hear condition, pushing someone under water, slapping and Beating someone several times is not enough to defend themselves?

@@kassandrad6540 literally has left me dumbfounded. Like are they trolls or are they dumb or evil as well. Its so crazy

Yes, those kids were acting with Pack Mentality they wer aggresaive, bullying, threatening. Obscene abominable behaviour! Who brought them up! #fail ! The guy would have been terrufied. A push, hes in water, it could have turned into anything with that mob mentality. Thwbfootage of their bukkting is really triggering to me. This guy was minding his own business just trying to find his phone. If it were me i would have been scares for my life

Horrible on the teens- and go figure cameraman wanted to be the HYPE GUY- these kids were asshats and can’t believe they treated someone like this…. You never know what will come. Their fault-

Nic Miu is a LIAR, STAPPER, BOTCHER - please 17 years jail time ‼️

They found out Eastern European fight back

The adult had to show those kids who was boss.

Not the parents, but for assaulting the chap in a mob yes.

F*ck both sides 😅

Yes these kids are stupid, and drunk, but Miu approached them with the knife, wouldn’t leave, then stabbed a small girl. That part is what’s wrong, the kids were stupid, but Miu stabbed before he was touched.

@@killinqz looked to me like somebody punched him 1st. Then they all surrounded him like a bunch of chimpanzees. The lesson here is, don't put somebody you don't know in a fight or flight situation then be upset when you get an extreme reaction.

Nah they think they are victims.. they need jail too

@@killinqzhe approached them cause he was looking for his phone and they were teasing him. He didn’t pull out the knife until he was pushed down and then defended himself

@@garyjones122bingo

nah. a well adjusted adult doesn't go on a stabbing spree when a kid slaps him in the face. What part of walking away from the conflict THEN STABBING THREE MORE PEOPLE RUNNING AWAY was self defense. You're too old to have an opinion anymore. How miu does in jail

@@k1xntthey’ll me you’re dumb.😊

Doesn’t justify a stabbing spree

GUILTY go cry about it

@@tcsprynce5748 Yes you're right he was found guilty. However, no one with brain and real world experience would have found him guilty. There's video of him being attacked verbally and physically by multiple people. Those same people have no reliable recollection of what happened and some were even caught lying. Despite all that, this poor man was found guilty. The only explanation I can think of for this is that the jury went in with a decision in place and no amount of evidence was going to change their mind. Seems like there was a big name in a small town involved. These kids learned they could act like this and get away with it and they did. There's probably a reason for that. I'm glad you're happy with the verdict. Someone besides the animals on the river that day should be.

The kid wouldn’t have died if he didn’t start strangling Miu

Issac is dead, and at his age that's very sad. But no one forced him to put his hands around Nic's throat. If he had kept his hands to himself, he'd be alive today.

You guys act like touching someone’s collarbone is choking them, I can’t tell who’s trolls and who isn’t with this case anymore it’s ridiculous

@@Hanseth47touch, choke whatever the case may be, he made the first initial contact with Mui. A big lesson we are taught as children is to keep your hands to yourself. Who knows, Issac may have been very well alive and testifying like his friends had he kept his distance in the first place. Rip to him though. It is still sad to see a life cut short so early.

Exactly and it wasn't just the yelling and what they're yelling saying but accusing him accusing him of being a child rapist and a pedophile

He’s not a born American citizen so he’s treated different by the system

You’re worried about misdemeanors in a murder case?

100% agree with you. These little punks get away with threatening this guy's life, perjure themselves & then get away with just say saying they don't recall! Disgusting.

Exactly,they will be let off & seen as victims,yet if it wasn’t for them none of this would be happening,dude was just minding his own business yet to be called those names because these stupid pathetic boys thought it be funny to record him & humiliate him then lie there ass of in court because they no by telling the truth this man gets released but it’s clear they have all come with a plan on what to say & run with it,so many of them have said the exact same thing,i just hope this gets picked up on the final day

They will be charged hopefully after the trial he can go back and file charges They will live with the fact they caused this

Nah he stabbed FIVE people

@@vsauce4498 boomers are clueless, don't bother trying to educate em

@@vsauce4498 Because he was DEFENDING himself.

It is lawful to defend yourself

@@Afflictamine Stop breathing my oxygen.

It’s more so the media they take in, all rotten useless stuff that shape these kids into how they behave. When so many of the same unmannered children are in a group it only amplifies the rotten behavior. The person recording was obviously trying to amp up the situation trying to instigate and provoke something to happen likely so they could get some kinda fight video, post it on the internet in hopes of getting internet attention. That instigating is what lead to that death. The kids friends killed him.

When you disembowel someone, it isn't self defense.

@@robboidI think they are talking about him going free bc it’s first degree murder when they would have a better chance at a guilty verdict with 2nd degree murder charged.

@@robboid room temp iq take

It was

Yeah I think it was self defense

It's always THEIR kind starting shit...

I have to agree always seems to be there

Resilience to bullying aught to be taught as well. Mr. Miu exercised zero resilience that day. Am I wrong? Is resilience to adverse outside forces a good thing? An empowering thing?

Amen!

Well spoken and agreed.

Agreed

@@alveyjohn thanks 😊

I thought the same thing until I noticed he pulls the knife right after that woman walks up and takes a swipe at him. He's standing there holding it for a good 20 seconds before they push him down. They just didn't notice it. I'm not sure why, but that makes me less favorable to it being self-defense. I originally thought it was, because I thought he pulled the knife while being attacked and pummeled in the river.

the problem with these corrupt courts is they're supposed to be a jury of your PEERS. people that ALREADY KNOW YOU. not random strangers...

I've been bullied and attacked before. Never thought if stabbing someone

@@mindyourbusiness7616 Did they keep doing it?

I agree. These adults (no children) surrounded this man. All of them should be prosecuted for their contributing to the death of their friend.

This should have never been brought to trial any body else in that predicament . An old black man and a group of “good ole’ boys,” a young white guy and all black teens. A young woman and a mix bag of men. Any of those and we don’t have a case. But, an older white man defending himself from a mix bag of kids and adults mostly whites he is here in court for shame.

But video does not lie. He had many opportunities to leave or show his knife and say f off but he did all the wrong things his fault now he goes to prison

​@@Brightnshinysyndrome they had plenty of time to just go by their merry way and leave him be.

@@Brightnshinysyndrome Hi thanks for dialogue. You are right the video does not lie but, it cannot interpret feelings and fear. He was pushed, he was hit, attempts made to hold him down face down in the river. The intensity of the encroaching strangers, the volume of young boy cackling and shouting. Strange drunk woman shouting in your ears, your face. Fright or flight. Do you hunt? I do, have you ever cornered deer? It can’t win but for an instant it seems like it would stomp and attempt to fight! Unbelievable I know but you put a human up against anything and we too will try to survive if we can’t avoid. You see the opening but, he does not. And, and he does not have to retreat he has a right to stand his ground. My opinion thats all.

They always have their phones ready to record everything, so they believe that no one will dare to stand up to them. Unfortunately, they are often right about that.

Yep agree 100%. I posted this above and I am also around your age, definitely kids are different now I know because I have a few and see it in their schooling and social media. My kids are told straight when they get out of line or come home with some bullsheite they were 'taught' at school.... I think the comments show how this trial will go.. It's looking like 90% for self defence. Little sh1ts parents should be ashamed.. Kids have no consequences now a days amidst all this woke bullcr4p. I'm honestly surprised one of the group isn't trans or they them... Now that would be confusing in cross examination "where you them they there at the time of the stabbings sir/madam"

Yeah when we were young, we would have helped the old man find his phone. Honest to God this is insane 😢

Maybe because older adults do nothing but call young people lazy when they’re deeply struggling.

I'm 39 and the dude never fought... I think he wanted to stab somebody and baited them. His life was never in danger he just got smacked up a lil bit. Learn how to fight and he could've easily ko'd a couple of those kids..

Same here. I was on the side of the kids, but now realize those were no kids. They are a predatory mob. This man was clearly defending himself.

I think of him as a Russian bear. They kept poking the bear and got mauled.

no he shouldn't. he really should not.

Facts

But he wasn't alone. The group that he was with was only 20 yards away on the riverbank watching the whole thing go down. In fact he waved at them a few times gesturing for them to come over. Besides you don't pull a knife out on a bunch of kids in bathing suits

@@ber334 YOU are the problem with this world. Absolutely appalling

​@@ber334 Those "kids" are stronger than he is and outnumber him, so he's losing that battle without a knife. How about don't assault random people in a river? I mean they were literally looking for a fight.

@@madness3840 so why didn't he walk away like they kept telling him to?

He even said he was given opportunity to leave and de-escalate the situation and he did not “she told me to leave”. He is a murderer

Yes. A sad day indeed.

Absolutely.

Cockfield started it all

Yep. I think the kids should be found liable for the death. They instigated it and it never would have happened if they didn't engage old boy like they did.

Yeah, pretty much.

And now he’s going to rot in jail 😊 lol

@@david333-v8x The fact that you find that funny is disturbing.

@@GodSurelyBlessYou good thing we’re not friends

@@david333-v8x Well even if we disagreed I could be friends with you. Disagreeing on stuff doesn’t mean people cannot be friends. I have friends with whom I disagree and its okay we have a good friendship.

⁠@@GodSurelyBlessYoumay he rot in jail for gutted those people, little man couldn’t handle his ego being a pedo

and adults - the 2 women that involved themselves and escalated.

Self defense indeed though I don’t think age & alcohol should be to blame.

Most of em are white lol

@@ethanberdejacortez4845 All of the Principals (Perp AND Vics) are Caucasian.Folx...

If it was self defense why did he act like nothing happened when police showed up? Why did he lie? He could have gotten not guilty if he would of made better decisions.

Have you seen the video of the NYC police being beaten by an illegal mob?

No, it happens all the time!!! 😂😅

​@@Gemma_626link

💯

Yeah that true

I know there's a lot of people like you, who are so fucking thick, you're blind to what happened on the video. I suggest you watch it multiple times.

Welcome to the US

It's tragic when a loser grown ass man goes to the complete opposite side of the river that his group was on to look for a phone one of his co workers lost that wasn't even his. So why did he go to the opposite side of the river? Just the harass these kids. From the start of the video this weirdo murderer grabs the kids. He makes first contact. Those kids have every right to tell that dude to leave. He refused to leave time and time again! It's not hard for a grown ass man to walk away. He chose to position himself in front of the kids floating path and impeding their ability to continue floating and leave. There is absolutely nothing self defense in this situation. Hence why he's gonna rot in prison. Thank god you aren't a lawyer. You'd be ruining your clients lives.

They definitely became victims after that

Defending yourself means putting yourself in a group of teens and not leaving when asked multiple times? Having your knife ready before anything even happens? Stabbing an innocent girl telling you to leave??

They f*cked around and found out real quick.

Yeah those thugs were acting all tough, after that dude got stabbed, they all started screaming like little girls 🤣🤣

he's going to jail, is my bet. They played a huge part, yes, but he initiated the encounter. And he stuck around. can't claim self defense when you initiate the encounter and put yourself into that situation like he did and end up using lethal force.

@@ShastaBean​​⁠ What a joke. I was the one who informed you just recently that your comment you left over a year ago about this case was vindicated by the released video, wherein you rightly wrote that your gut instinct that the young adults were the ones to be at fault. You responded asking a question about if there was proof that they attacked him first or if Nic attacked them first, because you hadn’t any idea about the case these days. And now, some few odd hours later, you’re suddenly an expert on the case with the total opposite opinion, when you clearly haven’t had enough time to watch much of the trial at all. WHAT A JOKE, PAL! Your claims here are WRONG!

​@@anti-ethniccleansing465 ​ lol @ "expert". Typically I won't respond when someone feels the need to resort to insults, btw. I heard his testimony and it made me ascribe enough blame to him for being in their area that he should receive lesser charges. The kids were wrong with how they escalated things. No doubt about that. But he was wrong for encroaching in their area. The problem for him is he had a lethal force tool. You can't roll up on 8 toughs on a street corner and start probing questions and snooping around and then when they get annoyed and tell you to go away, you just stick around grabbing at their feet and bags. And then another group comes in and tells you also to go away and you still remain and then when shouting and shoving starts you start spraying ammunition all over the place. That's not how self-defense works. He should have removed himself from the encounter he put himself into. He also admitted to taking a swipe at the 1st girl. Also, hearing his interrogation? He lied about the source of the knife...because he knows what it means to bring that into the encounter.

Agreed.

100%

And the kid that died had his hands around Nic’s throat, not knowing he had a knife.

Jail for life.

Real big facts

At the very least, the adults who provided them alcohol

You want every teen in America charged 😂

@@loohan32in this case yes

​@@weewee9464don't be daft lol every kid has had a drink underage and been stupid. Nic was the first aggressor he deserves jail

@loohan32 most of the pro Miu comments I’ve seen seem to be people in their 50’s or 60’s demanding ‘respect’ and calling the boys bullies. In their world, after their ego has been questioned, the ‘bullying’ deserves physical violence. Miu said so himself in the interrogation video his ego was hurt and he couldn’t let them get away with that. Also, most of these boomer/ gen x commenters are hypocrites, because they were legally able to drink at the age of 18, and most drank before that age as well. I’ve also noticed people mad Miu didn’t wait for a lawyer in interrogation even tho his rights had been read to him and as a 52 year old adult man should’ve known better, and told lie after lie anyway. It seems they wanted him to get a lawyer to I don’t know, lie better? No wonder this country is going downhill, it’s ran by adult babies that don’t even know their own rights.

they were blacked out and decided to make fun of him because they thought he looked stupid trying to snorkel in 2 feet deep water - when in actuality, he was using a snorkel to look for a friends phone. this is a perfect example of making literally nothing into something just because they wanted to bully an old man

The Karen made the situation worse!

He didn’t say anything to them after they asked him multiple times. How would they know? All they got is a drunk weirdo lingering around them

Get real!

​@@wigglethemiddle1I can't believe nobody gets that. In the video they asked him numerous times what he was doing and he did not even respond at all. So then out of frustration they started telling him to leave and go away but he wouldn't even explain himself and that's why they started all that yelling and screaming especially when the other group came over and then it was two groups telling him leave and he just would not leave almost like he did not understand a word they were saying

Because he lied, and he killed someone. You don't get to do both and call it self defense.

​@kuatojones6950 He was innocent but lied because there was a chance he might get convicted of something he didn't do. Imagine that.

​@@muximus2771he was not innocent. He made first contact, he chose not to leave when he had the chance, he threw the first punch, and he was the only one to stab somebody, discard evidence, and lie to police, upon being questioned, that day. Please grow a fucking brain.

My husband used that same term! This is when the justice system does NOT work!

​@muximus2771 so he didn't stab those 5 kids and try to dispose of the evidence 🤡

no pun intended?

@@MooseMeus 🤭

because the victim murdered children,

​@@brentmardon7528exactly 💯

​@@brentmardon7528They're clearly not children. I highly doubt you'd see some of these guys and refer to them as that. They were big enough to pose a threat to this guy. You can take their side and empathize with them, but it still doesn't make them children.

Because even those these young people were the ones who instigated the attack, Miu technically escalated by pulling out a knife, and specifically because one of these individuals died from being stabbed. The state thinks Miu wasn't scared for his life and could have left the attack. And he did leave the scene of the crime after the stabbing, and lied to police about him being the one involved. Which is pretty sketchy. But... One could argue he thought the police wouldn't believe his story. I doubt he knew it was being recorded. Or he fled because he felt he was at fault. Idk. I'm personally torn in this case. It's clear to me that none of the stabbings would have taken place if these young people didn't start randomly and agressively calling him names like pedophile while surrounding him and taunting him, even making veiled threats. So that's on them. They could have simply left him alone. However it's hard to know if Miu truly feared for his life. Like I do wonder if it's possible that he wasn't truly afraid UNTIL the guys started punching and knocking him down in the water (while having him surrounded), and then at that point he couldn't escape. It's hard to say. But I can definitely see myself in that position and being afraid I'm gong to get knocked out and drown. Or that one or a couple of the guys would hold my head under and drown me. I mean in fairness you have no idea what someone is going to do to you in that situation. Just like these young guys didn't know Miu would pull a knife. I wish I could see in Mius head and know what he was thinking. If he REALLY thought he was going to die if he didn't use the knife, then if course he should be let free. But if he didn't, he needs to be found guilty. The problem is figuring out which is the case. I feel like I'll have a better idea when I see his testimony. I've learned how to read body language so I'm very curious to see his responses.

@@user-db9yd6vz9r brainless sheep

I wondered the same thing. Why so hostile? Why not a compassionate response like, "Hey! Let us help you find your friend's phone." They probably led him to believe that they had his friend's phone just to mess with him.

​@HeraclitusThoughtBubblesNo. That was just the most foul comment they could come up with. There was no basis for any of it. What they started and did, was nefarious from the beginning.

EXACTLY!!.. My generation would've offered to help the man..But no..We have thug kids being raised to be self entitled..Makes me sick.They make me sick!!!..

The new generation is taught to do a Fortnite dance on top of someone who’s already down

@@debbief4481Stop with your generation because y’all failing giving birth to these they/them weirdos who dress up like furries

imagine stabbing a teenage girl, and calling it self defense. not to mention murdering a kid and almost murdering his friends. thats not self defense. thats a hateful scared man with murderous intentions

Exactly true statement

Ok well he got convicted so take that as you will

You're so fucking dense if you think this was self defense.

@@daddy_marx6823 What that means is that the justice system is broken

you got that right bro

A shame the others might

Sick bastard

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Typical suspects

Exactly. If I were him, I'd have expected the adults to help. Instead, they created more chaos with their drunk, white trash antics.

Those are not really what I would call women. For today’s standards yeah, a dog can be a woman. But in the real sense they are spoiled overgrown 5yo NOT WOMEN. Women have character and femininity and these don’t have any of these traits

Women damn near always make things worse in these type of situations!

Sounds like she’s being held responsible for his actions?

Id straight crack up if he just blurted out “them hoe ass bitches”

One of them really asked for being screwed.

@@Elo-hv3fwevery member of that group seemed mean, intoxicated, and thought it would be funny to call the man a peedo , then proceeding to go full caveman and start wailing on him and shouting and I swear in the video one of those idiots tried holding him face down in the water in a (frankly pathetic) attempt at drowning him, those kids should be accountable

EXACTLY!!!! I thought "what ladies - I sure didn't see any 'ladies'"!!!!!!!!

He hit the young lady. Is that noble 🤔

Amen sue, amen!!

Same, but unfortunately doubt they do. Probably saying they are the victims.

They won’t

I doubt these kids feel any remorse. They don't understand that they actually caused their friend to die. These kids know nothing of reflection as you can see from their testimony.

They won't. They never will. To them, they're in the right. They think they deserve to be able to make false accusations and whoever they falsely accuse should suffer the death penalty. They will view his acquittal as a miscarriage of justice.

Don’t leave out the ringleader, Cockfield, who started all of this with the name calling, inciting the mob, and filming him “for the culture!”

The kids n the women Should be jailed.

But his ego got involved he should of left, but sweet justice, he a foreigner too now I understand why he couldnt let those insults roll off

He didn't stay for ego. He merely froze. The more calm he was, the more they pressed him and surrounded him

IF HE WAS THAT FEART WHY DID HE WALK OVER THEN CHARGE AT THEM,

Alcohol is the problem. Alcohol clouds judgement and distorts reality.

In Florida they would of gotten a lead prescription!

None of those kids saw his knife in their testimonies. If he had showed that knife, they all would have run. He was looking to stab someone that day...a very disturbed liar.

Self-defense? He approached them first. He accosted them first. He got physical with them first and put his hands on them first when he grabbed the guys in tubes by the legs and when he pushed a woman while he was in a drunken stupor. The young men reacted in defense to him pushing the girl and grabbing the guys. What those young people did was a reaction to this man's aggressive behavior towards them. This man then pulled out a knife and proceeded to slaughter 5 young people like he was Jason Voorhees. After the murder and attempted murders, the murderer then fled the scene of the crime. The murderer then desposed of the murder weapon. The murderer disguised his appearance. The murderer then fabricated a story to police. Self-defense? In what world is that self-defense? No. This is absolutely not self-defense. This is his version of self-defense, which is what he came up with once he realized the incident was recorded on video and his made-up stories wouldn't work anymore. That's when this turned into self-defense for him. His version of self-defense is an after-the-fact excuse that he made up to mitigate the murder and attempted murders of 5 people. Don't confuse self-defense with exacting revenge. He didn't defend himself. He tried to murder 5 people, and all because some kids hurt his feelings when they called him names. This was a murderous rampage, not ""self-defense". Smh

​@@deannalynne1626 They lied in their testimony. Watch the video of it yourself. The knife is obviously visible the whole time.

Bet they all watch it. To be sure about their decision. If they don't, they should be disqualified. Guilty or not guilty

Why would they? How could they make a judgment if they don't see the evidence?

Because they know the old man was defending himself

​@@DW-ts5ki😅

I think they have seen it a number of times already.

Agreed!

That crackhead looking woman and the teens should be on trial

At the end of the day, He's a killer.

I'm so encouraged to see people not buying every slanderous accusation. But instead doing some homework to find out for themselves. Thank you Johnny Depp❤

​@@GoodisBest4u Killing and murdering are 2 different things....shame on that mob of nasty teens!

Agreed. At the point he realized they didn’t want to help him, he should have walked away. The kids are POS’s also, but he continued to force the situation unnecessarily.

Amen!

He kept approaching them stupid, and he also punched the girl first before being pushed down for it

He had been drinking too!

Agreed. Sometimes, not always, but sometimes it is the company one keeps and not the parents at fault. In their group, the teens got into mischief, and fueled by alcohol and drugs, had too much mouth and not enough sense. The adults who inserted themselves into the situation let the teens down. Despite their claims they were there to help, not one adult said "calm down", "stop", "everyone just move on" or anything to remotely de-escalate and end the situation. Instead they aggregated it more to a tragic ending.

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Redditors will seethe below this comment.

teach people not to stab others

@@user-cr2xl4sg7b ok redditor

Teach your husband's to not get triggered by teens to the point he throws his life away

Teach psychos not to go on a stabbing spree and get 5 murder charges.

Sticks and stones, my dear.

@charizards5146 he was lying, he admitted so several times.

He actually initiated the interaction. Big key. He went to them, not them to him. He'll go to jail over that simple fact.

@@ShastaBean Yea, he walked up to them and right by them and they decided it was smart to start throwing out baseless accusations to turn everyone in close proximity against him so they could justify drowning him. They should all be locked up before he is. He has just as much right to be in a public space as those entitled fuck-wits people keep calling teenagers.

He was literally armed with a knife and approached teenagers without saying a word and jumping on their tubes. You're an incel. He instigated the whole situation.

Don't feel that sorry for him. He lied to the police a million times about really really important things. That is called consciousness of guilt. He is no angel in this

What a sicko empathising with a psycho

​@@suzettesundae7903 he can lie all he wants , the video is the absolute truth 😂

I know, after watching the video I actually felt sick to my stomach. That mob mentality was terrifying. It’s actually awesome he had the skills to protect himself, I probably would have froze and been mauled by those kids

He started it and then he stabbed 5 people because he wanted to, plain an simple. He hated those kids. He didn't have any legitimate reason to approach those young people, he went on his own, and stayed on his own. Fuck him. He should rot in prison where he belongs. He set up that whole situation hoping for a confrontation.

If they was gonna beat him ,they would've ........ Wtf

@@mindyourbusiness7616 Clearly you know NOTHING about this case. Dumb dumb

Those kids are an absolute embarrassment and it won't help their case one single bit!

I hope the jury sees this as self defense. I pray that they do. What a horrible outcome. This is a reminder that whatever I’m going through…..it could be worse. Lord give me strength.

Womp womp

Unfortunate that he decided to stab 5 and get 5 murder charges and life in prison.

Man America is getting softer every day if this was bullying lmfao

One comment said, " blood thirsty hyenas".... and they did more than just " act". You are right.

If you're making the case that him stabbing/killing is not his fault, you are not seeing the facts clearly.

He’s guilty man- watch his interrogation with the police. So so many lies. Says “I heard I match the description of the guy stabbing?” Ridiculous

@@sciencenate he lied cause he thought he was going to get in trouble .... without a shadow of a doubt tho from watching the video that was justified self defense

@@sharon94503 If you make the case he did it on purpose, you obviously didnt see the video. I notice people like you on the side of the youth didnt even take the time to watch the video. I was skeptical until I saw it. It was self defense. No different than Rittenhouse case.

The question is, did he really go back to take a knife or did he had it with him all the time? And if he took the knife intentionally, was it for self defence or revenge. I didn't see him punching a woman. But he could've easily threatened the group with his knife instead of immediately stabbing even a girl in her bikini. Not an easy case