Apple River stabbing trial: Nicolae Miu jurors explain verdict 

And her name was Tina silver cat

It's dumb people such as yourself who base their opinions only on the video that should be embarrassed.

u need psychiatric evaluation buddy

Most accurate comment ever. These folks are ignorant. The panel as well prosecutors and most importantly these irresponsible men whom were young men at time but lies was only thing come out their mouths. Perfect example of bad parenting

*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.

OJ trial was worse

You don't watch a lot of cases, I'd guess.

They got it right. Miu was the aggressor. Get over it.

You’re disappointed by a clearly CORRECT ruling??? 🤦‍♂🤣😂

I know right...what's even scarier is that so many mindless people support this absolutely ridiculous verdict!

I’d be embarrassed too.

@@Harley57 Is it because of ring-around-the-collar or dandruff flakes on their shoulders? Unsightly tartar? Offensive body odor? How are they a disgrace?

Boomers when someone from their lead poisoned minds group can't get away will killing people. An entire generation of Americans is completely lost. History will not look kindly on you people.

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The only “disgraceful” thing about this is the clowns like you who can’t accept reality and see things for what they really are 🤦‍♂

some of them weren't even attacking him lol. Some of the teens touched him on the shoulder and told him to get the hell away. You can't just stab everyone in a 5 mile radius and claim your innocent. Especially hiding the knife, claiming the teens were armed, and lying to police multiple times.

He wasn’t getting beat up by multiple people and he was the aggressor 🤡

@@mbkhan3116 With that level of brains and deductive reasoning, you should have been on that jury. Madison Coen the drunk belligerent women that charged up to shove Miu several times, cursing, until he finally pushed back and her sunglasses fell off. Face unmarked, Coen claimed he punched her, and then the thrower of the 1st real punch Dante Carlson - sucker punched, knocked Miu Down. Then the sucker puncher and 4 others started the beatdown, inc. pushing Miu's head back into the water 3 times. Then the stabbing began as Miu began fighting his attackers. Given how degraded and dumbed down Americans are becoming - I'd be very nervous to have to be forced to either plea guilty - or face a jury trial of ever more dumbed down Americans like those involved in the Miu Trial - if I was innocent or there were mitigating circumstances.

@@eriv4735 Glad you came by to opine without watching the video of 5 drunks swarming him and punching, kicking, and pushing Miu into the water, after the 1st real true blow of the incident, a sucker punch by Dante Carlson. I apologize if you are visually impaired and relied on someone else to describe it to you.

1chrisford What video did YOU watch bud?? Miu never got punched or kicked..he did get pushed but only AFTER he struck the underage FEMALE..I apologize if you are delusional and are seeing things that NEVER happened 🤡🤡

Yes, exactly.

I feel ya!

They weren't all together, there were witnesses from two separate groups. You should probably familiarize yourself with the basic facts of the case before lamenting being born in "this era." Anyway, your theory is that two groups conspired to lie, and that lie just happened to be backed up by the people shouting "You hit a woman" on video, immediately after it is alleged to have happened? And the perpetrator himself admitted to "pushing" her in some way, but conveniently claimed he COULDN'T REMEMBER where on her body he hit her? He was incredibly cagey and selective in his responses when asked about it. He had a chance to flat out deny hitting her in the face, and he didn't.

I get it! They all had a reason to be mad at the defendant. He just stabbed their friends and family members. Never mind the reason. He stabbed them. I guess I can’t blame them for being angry anymore than I can blame Mr Miu for being angry for being accused to being a chomo unfairly and for no reason. It seemed to be more about who was in whose side. Unfortunately, Mr Miu’s friends were all far away and didn’t really see much of what was going on until after the violence stsrted and even then they didn’t see what actually happened. I think they were all to engaged in their own conversations and activities that they forgot all about him. Only his wife was concerned which makes sense. It wasn’t until after she saw him on the ground that she sent over two of their friends to go get him or see what was going on. By the time they got there it was too late hell already broke loose. I can imagine it was like this “Nick! What happened? Are you ok?” Nick: Yes I’m fine. Some incident just happened. Friends: What happened? Nick: I don’t know. Let’s get away from the scene. Wife: Nick was just happened? I saw you on the ground! Nick: It’s nothing! Just some incident but i don’t know what happened. I don’t want anything to do with it. I think we should move on. Friend: Nick I heard there was somebody or people stabbed! Do you see anything? Nick: Yes, I heard but i don’t know who did it. I think we should move on. Too bad we will never know if what the outcome would have been if he decided to stay on the scene and explain what happened or just claimed his 5th Amendment rights. Bet it would be wildly different

They were mad because they thought mui struck COEN. No proof, is that why she destroyed her video? Miu was convicted for the same reason his friends weren't paying attention to him. He's not likeable.

Very good point. I'm content that I was born at the tail end of gen X. The common sense generation.

How poetic that on the day OJ died, a new OJ jury of bottom feeders was born. OJ passed the torch I guess to a new generation of dumbed down Americans have their verdict.

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Cry about it

🤦‍♂️ when someone points the finger they have 3 pointing back on them. Just saying.

You are as dumb as two bags of rocks. The juror clearly explained that they believed Miu forfeited his right to self defense by initiating the aggression. That means the people he stabbed were acting in self defense, or attempting to protect someone else who was under attack.

They were, too many things aren't taken into consideration. Miu was an older guy in not so perfect health and also had been drinking and these kids are yelling at him. Sure he hit some dumb girl, charge him for that if you wish, but still, he was severely outnumbered so what choice does he have? He was extremely nervous. He isn't used to being involved in criminal behavior. So he lied about a few things, so what? What's relevant is: was he defending himself at that moment, or was he not? That's all that's relevant and nothing else is, not what he said during the arrest, not what he said on the stand, not anything else. Just what he defending himself or not at that moment. The only thing you can say about anything related to the mistakes he made after are simply that he shouldn't have. People seem to have problems coming to terms with this and need to put themselves in the same situation: you're a 52 year old man that had major heart surgery two years ago and your surrounded by people less than half your age who by no fault of your own are yelling at you and getting in your face calling you a pedophile. You're drunk, they're drunk, you know you could possibly get hurt or killed but they won't stop taunting and in your frustration (and being called a pedophile is pretty much the worst thing you can be called) you hit one, now you're pushed into the water and you make a quick decision to defend yourself in the only way you can, with a knife, since you obviously can't take on all these people. So afterwords the police come, you're nervous since you know you're life has completely changed now, so in nervousness you simply lie about it, no different than if a cop asks if you got weed in the car. It's not like he had all the time in the world to think this through and how he would respond. He had no record, so he didn't right of the bat think to keep his mouth shut during the arrest and get a lawyer. But basically what it comes down to is he shouldn't be guilty based on mistakes he made after, he shouldn't be guilty ONLY if he wasn't defending himself, that's it.

Hopefully you won't lose a child in the hands of a pathetic narcissist killer!!!! What a senseless comment!!!

The "punch" was not on the video and was only "witnessed" by others who would only benefit to say they saw a punch. What is visible is Mui getting attacked by 3+ people at once. The jury; just like the witnesses who seemed to all have the same lie ready for court, became emotional that an almost adult was killed and based their verdict on that. They are wrong and I hope they are never surrounded by a bunch of drunk morons yelling and cursing at them.

Yes! It is very scary

just don't know how 12 people could get it wrong. it doesn't make any sense.

@@GroveEndRoadlmao because it’s not wrong and you have some mental issues if you think that’s self defense

@@GroveEndRoad because it wasn’t wrong at all and you’re literally as psycho as miu if you think he defended himself. People that defend themselves don’t lie. Don’t hide the weapon. People that defend themselves avoid conflict like this. Miu stayed because his ego was hurt and he wasn’t gonna let some kids to that to him. He had 1000000 chances to avoid the situation instead he escalated it which is what the prosecution proved and miu admitted to himself. He claims to “stand his ground” in a non stand your ground state first of all. He made no attempt to retreat and willingly faced the “mob”. He made so many bad decisions that day, and you want to enable them. It will be a glorious day when you and miu shuffle off this mortal coil

​@Jonahpwn It's telling that anyone that argues he's guilty can't do so without using absurd and complete lies about what happened. He literally tried to walk away. He got about 15 feet before the 20 year olds physically stopped him by shoving him back and refusing to let him leave while everyone surrounded him in preparation for the planned attack.

248lb. man could blow past any two people provided they haven't linked arms or had weapons. Get real. Not picking up on warning cues is his own fault. He had plenty of opportunity to leave the encounter which is the reason he lost in court.

@@PaxDisturbia wrong.

Good argument about what if he couldn’t swim. To me I would have looked at the language barrier and how well he spoke English. If I was defense. Either way, he’s a grown man and had plenty of chances to simply turn around and walk the other way. After he was hit, that’s another story.

@@b4lt1m0re_jay He got here 37 years ago. His twin brother who looks exactly like he did in 2022 has no or only very slight accent (see Christina Randall's video). Nic speaks 5 languages, so not exactly short on language skills, but in jail interview tries to talk like some disillusioned, naive child, reverting back to nearly babbling baby talk. PTSD from early life abuse CAN last a lifetime, but why no health history introduced in his defense about that? If he never got help for it, is his fight response an UNpredictable possibility? I doubt it. What did his friends and family know before they let him wander around loud obnoxious drunks unsupervised? He stated in an interview with Lt Hart that his only medications were for his heart condition.

​@@PaxDisturbiaIt was clear something else was going on there in Miu's deluded mental state. Unfortunately, it's his job to treat his only mental issues, not take it out on a group of kids then lie about it.

Because it wasn’t 🤦‍♂

i wanted Miu to be let off not guilty.. he was provoked big time by the first idiot who called him pedo... then he was surrounded the teen jerks... BUT he struck first and he could have walked away at ANY point.

What fcked him up was the lying when he was at the police station . So they used that in court and now he’s in jail because of it . At this point self Defense didn’t work for this case it was the lying

@@Defender78 If people were allowed to pull out a knife and start stabbing whenever teenagers got cocky, we'd all be in serious trouble! Even if he hadn't have thrown the first punch, you don't bring a knife to a fist fight! Especially if you are hiding said knife. Big difference between showing your weapon and hiding it until you want to use it. That was the deciding factor to me. I saw the look on his face, in that video, the moment he made the decision to pull out that knife. He was the only person on that river who knew he had a knife and that knowledge led him to the conclusion it did. Those kids would not have challenged him if they had known he had a weapon.

@Defender78 where was he going to walk to? He was surrounded & had already been pushed into the water

...and he literally was assaulted three times and was about to be assaulted a fourth time before he used the knife

Lol.

Cry about it.

@@chakiaman9375 The five drunk thugs who viciously attacked him already did that, boohooing and lying on the stand, like the cowardly cry-bullies that they are.

@@hazmania4794 Womp Womp 🦀🎻

@@chakiaman9375 I bet you have blue hair.

Did you watch him take the stand? Like the actual cross examination? The guy lied and lied and lied and lied over and over. His story was completely mixed up. It seems clear to me. The girls were harassing him, he got pissed off and he stabbed them. You cannot do that. It is what it is.

Right

CRUMBLY case comes to mind. And the video I saw show him being pushed down AFTER he's in the water.

No - absolutely not. What a horrendous thing to think. Teenagers are not guilty of murder for calling someone names.

@@missmochiicecream Whether you agree with it being self defense or not, if you roll up to a person and start calling him a pedro and raper etc., don't expect all people to shrug it off. This was a case of social media meeting up with real life. That kid with the camera taunting the guy and the girl that came over and started shoving him are responsible for this going haywire. Perhaps 30 or 40 years from now they'll start doing some objective thinking about it and realize the role they played in this.

*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.

That mob kept telling him to go away. He chose not to and then threw the first punch. Then lied about everything from that point on. Should have walked away like the mob told him to.

They never even closed a circle around him, let alone set up an armed perimeter to prevent him escaping.

the defense made you think it was a MOB of 13 - 16 people... because they counted anyone in the area... out of those Drunk Thugs - the guys that have their hands up trying to stop it - or the lady screaming at him saying - GO AWAY!!!

Very unjust to stamd there and not leave then stab people. Like a drunk teenager at 50+ he needs life in prison.

@@TrevByTheTon300 The jury got it right, although I was surprised at the speed. That's partially the fault of the trial lawyers and the amount of "filler" and stupid tangents they go off on in their questioning of witnesses. Like the big deal over Miu carrying the knife in his pocket. Everyone knows that the issue is not that he had it with him that day, it's how, when, and why he used it during the relevant confrontation. Or the defense lawyer over-emphasizing the swear words used by Madison. You don't go into a party venue and not expect to hear bad language where everyone had been drinking for 3+ hours. There was a lot of "filler". They should have stayed focused if they want jurors to focus on facts in their deliberations, IMO.

Ok tough guy

Comments like this only prove psychopaths are the only people who think he's innocent.

wowza, you people really are sick.

​​@@Teddy-kl3zo I think he's joking. Comments like yours prove only narcissistic Karen's think he's guilty

@@user-cf6tm8yh2h lol 😆

Agree. And the one filming even admits he trips onto the tubes in the video. Literally says, "He's on camera, tripping in 4K." Then something about a cracked phone, so presumably he thought they had the phone. He clearly is not interested in them, but in looking for the friend's cell & I guess now the snorkel.

@@bridgetalgeo3387 Exactly. I have been explaining this over and over to commenters who assume Miu charged at them and was looking for a fight.

I mean, you can see his focus is on his search. He doesn't really ever make eye contact with them. They provide the commentary that he tripped, so not sure what some are looking at. He actually moves away from them more than once, but when the women come, they close in on him. No evidence of a punch either. It's a ridiculous claim.

Hopefully you wouldn't let it be stupid, you sound like a person with integrity

No, she sounds like someone who spent less than an hour researching the timeline and 5 minutes on each witness testimony. The jury got it right.

I didn't know we could use deadly force against what started out as insults etc. Make it make sense because you don't sound smart rn. Don't stab me for saying so n claim self defense.

I think you should get a light sentence at least because in a way it was self-defense a group of people versus one no matter how you look at it you’re fucked

@@cm6084 Maybe know the facts, the man was beaten and near drown and grabbed by the throat- Guess you just let people stomp you then say thanks?

And more than that. She was supposely punched and yet, she was yelling and screaming in his face. If someone punches you, you go in their face for what? For another punch? It makes no sense

@@fungamesandstories HE LITERALLY ADMITTED TO TOUCHING/PUNCHING HER ON STAND???? LMFAOOOO WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT

@@Jonahpwn is it touching or punching? I never said that he wasn't physical with her. But punching? I doubt it

I don’t think he punched her, in the second video as LE are just arriving, she is walking up the embankment hair down & completely dry. I don’t underestimate why defense didn’t zero in on that. It was in witness Lorrion Davis’s video. She knew she escalated the entire situation & got out of there real fast. She was also the ONLY one that didn’t testify on camera.

Even if that were the case, he has no reason to go on a st*bbing spree and harm all of those ppl and then walk away like nothing happened. He was a drunk, stumbling fool… he should’ve kept stumbling down the river. The jury got it right. He can enjoy the American dream he came here for, from prison.

Nic admitted to it on the stand. So get with it.

Let's say he did punch Maddison...I don't think he did, the group would still not be justified and we're looking for any reason to attack Mr Miu.

​@@user-cf6tm8yh2h It is true that she literally was touching him, blocking him, physically using herself to stop him from going where he wanted to go ~ which wasn't toward the group after he found out they didn't have his phone. They created the hostile climate surrounding him. When the prosecutor said "senseless", he was right. But not in the way most of us saw it.

@@outoftime7740 I believe Mr Miu admitted to pushing her, not punching

@user-cf6tm8yh2h Nic started the violence first, with the teens. It's on the video, at the beginning. We see Nic 50 ft away, Nic turns around and starts rushing back towards teens. We can hear the teens saying, "what is he on?" "Woooooa" "Whooooa" (the sound we make stopping a horse) as Nic is getting closer to the teens Nic, then jumps on the teens tubes, grabbing 2 of the teens legs. That's when the teens jumped up and got all defensive, calling Nic a pedophile. Completely deserved. We even hear the teens tell Nic, "to go away". Nic came into the teens area, the 2 groups never went into Nics area. Nics group was waiting for him and he should have left before he ever turned his deadly weapon on a bunch of young people, who couldn't even defend themselves from that drunk psychopath.. seems Nics wife, saw the criminal in him. The whole video we see. is the groups retaliation, for Nic stabbing everyone. Did you people expect those people there, to do absolutely nothing back to Nic? Ya right.

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No you are silly if saying someone is innocent based on that little video clip.. Go look at the key evidence first. This was nowhere near self defence. He knew it that’s why he lied so bad in his interrogation

No your thoughts are

*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.

@OpinionParade Nope you have that wrong. Your thug and criminal, is in prison, where he freaking belongs.

Has nobody seen the video. It's not defense if your on offense. He walked into the river with a knife and stabbed people because he was mad. Period. The literal video is on RU-vid. What's failed me is humanity cause it's shocking how many of you defend a guy clearly looking for a fight. He's guilty. Enjoy prison.

@@colonelradec5956they think respect is more valuable than human life😂.

Seeth 🤡

@@colonelradec5956 It begs belief, right. The people claiming self-defence are either bots, just plain ignorant, or worse, full of vindictive resentment. I hope the majority of them are bots.

Plenty of people with REAL COLLEGE DEGREES! are every bit as imbecilic as that jury.

Your emotional bias is showing.

Absolutely. Such BS

I know right. It's even worse. When he was being attack, he literally had a group of dangerous people around him

Another one your kind going down. The its that look like you better realize you can't get away with murder anymore. Slowly but surely Your Privilege is being deleted.

@@doaver2.125 Keep assaulting OAPs big boy.

I agree!

It might be a lack of Education to

They can re-watcch any video in the deliberation room. The judge was watching those jurors too.

he sounds a little light in the loafers

@violentshemp7776 lol. Maybe a little bias. Common sense is extinct and God help us all. The bar was lifted to all these young brainless bullys. As those little bity babies were laughing while the verdict was read and shaking their heads. They knew they were going to get away with this. Innocent man just lost his life for defending himself. We all should be very scared

@@sandyblanchard1978 Young brainless entitled bullies are the college frat boys who haze their pledges to death with booze. Or the urban thugs doing the smash and grab thievery, or who steal cars and run over old men on bicycles, or who do drive by gang war shootings, randomly killing kids at backyard birthday parties, or having happy meals while strapped into their car seats. Get some perspective. Where do you live, in Mayberry, in Aunt Bea's basement?

So you’re saying he was informed on the case and made the correct decision?? Yes we know 🤷‍♂

This is where the defense lost the puppet trial. Location of the trial and juror selection.

Did you even watch the trial, miu basically admitted it, his own friends testified they saw him do it, on video you hear everyone say “you dont hit a girl”, and witnesses that weren’t involved testified he did. A medical professional testified she was likely punched. Get over it, jesus… He pulled knife right before hitting her when nobody had even touched him… how do you defend this? Its so obvious you all either are the type of people who dream about getting in altercations where you can use deadly force or are blinded by emotIon because youve had people call you names and you sympathize with miu because of that…despite him murdering someone.

Obviously the entire were liberals. They probably all support hamass as well.

this

what a stupid comment. He was also the only one with a knife and the only one who cut 5 people. he walked without a scratch.

Exactly- I don’t believe that he hit Madison, and the only one who I found credible was Tony Carlson who actually testified that he didn’t see Mr. Mui hit Madison.

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All the evidence in the world was not going to sway this jury, they live in a small town and they have to face their neighbors so a guilty verdict was the only verdict they were going to come up with

Bribery is a very serious accusation. Do you have proof of this?

​@@loszhorit's just hard to believe a jury could be this incompetent

Justice was ABSOLUTELY severed 🤡

*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.

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STAY MAD 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Defend Mui lying over and over and over. Who acts in self defense and then pretends they had no part? Wouldn't you want to prove your innocence?

The juror is way smarter than you - he understood that somebody who initiates a physical confrontation can't claim self-defence afterwards.

Jurors used the facts and applied the law. I hope you never get picked on a jury🤦🏼‍♀️

@@beatonthedonis the juror might be smarter than you but not me

He started it and looked drunk af. He was most likely tired of putting up with young kids BS so he escalated the altercation and got jumped then felt he had to defend himself. Both parties are wrong but him being the older man he should have left them alone and went on with his day.

I don’t even listen to the news I watched the video then started debating comments

​@@verifiedvette7519did you see that he checked his pocket for his knife before running up on the group putting hands on at least one. Did you notice he had the knife out and opened before anyone touched him?

@@verifiedvette7519 What, no, they mobbed him. He defended himself.

@@EmilKlingberg Emil, he had every opportunity to leave. His ego was hurt by some kids so he wasn’t having it. Instead of being a sane sober moral prudent defender, he escalates the situation by assaulting the first woman close enough because he was scared to hit one of the guys. Good thing he’s already guilty and you dumb fucks get to seethe in defeat. I love it honestly it’s glorious

No..

Yes

I think you are confused.

He threw the first punch. Nobody was doing anything physical to him, until he punched a woman.

@@dbuglove537 No, the woman is on video getting in his face, pushing and hitting him first.

....not to mention, he could not have retreated as he was being assualted

There should never be a requirement to retreat when a drunken mob attacks.

They are, just not in the way you’re implying 🤦‍♂

@@eriv4735 As I said, they should be ashamed

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no escape route LMFAO how about 360 degrees of escape routes all around him bozo

why did Mui lie multiple times on body cam?

@@itsjasonovak Curtis Reeves was aquitted for shooting a man at the movies because he threw popcorn at him

No one wins! Heartbreaking!

​@itsjasonovak I think u need to look at the video and use ur common sense if u have any..

Fear is a thing

It's crazy how many people either dismiss these facts, or just don't know. The jurors got it right.

Thank you!

Exactly, he took it too far and missed many opportunitids to walk away

​@@MaudernizedHow many opportunities did those "assaulters/attackers" have to walk away/stop assaulting him, but chose not too.

Oh, so you think he went out bathing with a knife in his swimming shorts? lol... He went back for the knife because he wanted a piece of the action. Wanted to put those youngsters in their place. Thats not self-defense.

@@CT2507 Finally the truth thankyou!

@@caladesi People have been brainwashed with movies depicting bullies and cannot think straight.

It's all about feelings.

I'm still baffled that twelve people can be unanimously this stupid. I'm starting to wonder if this jury was rigged

Some of them might. And the clever ones will surely just walk away, instead of going back for a knife and instigate fights with a deadly weapon. And the stupid ones will react with retaliation just like him, and get the same fate, just like him.

They might have. I guess we’ll never know. I think would bothered the jury mostly was that he didn’t just push past them and go back to join his group and what sealed his fate was that he left the scene and tried to deny his involvement and lying not the detective. It’s like he gave up his right to self defense by those actions

He's and old straight white male , liberals hate this demographic

​@@Missglam67the jury shouldn't have been bothered about that part

@@Missglam67 agreed that didn’t look good

@@GroveEndRoad I know. I don’t really think it’s fair although when someone dies as a result the jury was outraged that he was a minor. Nobody will ever say that out loud but there is an element of that small town vibe or cliquish feelings. I think they made up their minds that he was going to do time no matter what.

Defend Mui lying over and over and over. Who acts in self defense and then pretends they had no part? Wouldn't you want to prove your innocence?

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MIU LITERALLY ADMITTED TO TOUCHING/PUNCHING HER ON STAND LMAOOO GET FUCKED

Almost all our all of them told police about the supposed punch. I think every single one said their statements to police about the punch was false because they all made the mistake of trying to describe the fake punch, so everyone's story was different before they could cordinate the lie. Enough was flushed out in the trial that anyone claiming he punched the girl is lying and knows it. Both tactics used by the mob are well known tactics used by groups that want to have fun beating up a stranger for fun. - falsely call someone a pedo and try to incite other random people to get involved in the beating (pedo is moral/pseudo legal justification and cover for the beating, including other strangers is cover) - Send in a women to start the fight with the men right behind her. At this point the beating is going to happen since any movement even to walk away or just block will be claimed as hitting a girl and 'justifying' brutally beating up the victim. Notice how fast everyone mobbed in, everyone knew the game plan. Not one single white knight thought to protect the girls by getting them away or stopping them from physically fighting with a stranger.

This comment right here is a textbook example of mental illness. People are dead and you want the judge to shift his focus to charging misdemeanors....very very brain dead and I fear for anyone who has to interact with you in society

​@jefffraser4345 you literally just made that up stop lying he was intoxicated so were they. They acted out. He in a drunken manner WITH A WEAPON stabbed around with disregard for life. What if an officer grabbed him and he stabbed?? Yall will argue tooth and nail for a drunk killer online i swear.

@@TrevByTheTon300 He wasn't intoxicated, only the attackers. To say someone is making things up that are clearly seen on the video and supported by the testimony of everyone there while pushing a completely made up lie.

Thank goodness you weren't on the jury for this case. What a ridiculous thing to say. You're a supporter of free speech, right?

I agree. He had no duty to walk away from a group who were provoking him (although that would have been smart). The problem Miu has is that he appears to have thrown the first punch. At which point, he can't claim self-defense.

​@@dannyblanchflower1882 That's false. See my next comment

The jury understood that Miu was the initial aggressor. He placed himself there in order to cause conflict and violence. Therefore, he had no right to ‘stand his ground.’ Miu destroyed his own credibility by repeatedly making that claim while on the witness stand. Yet now here you are repeating the same fallacy. Have you no shame?

@@kevinhornbuckleagreed. He had a chip on his shoulder going in to that group. He may have underestimated how obnoxious, drunk and aggressive these kids were though

😂 what a delusional comment....

It’s over your head bud 🤦‍♂

@@eriv4735 Maybe explain it to this poor man better That we don't have a functional judicial system in our country. A jury with room temperature IQ's are defiantly not my peers.

Boo hoo... don't approach people fast and agressive reaching into their floats and stuff or heres one... don't disembowel children.

​@@brandonborkowski8312 it would need a jury of people with downs syndrome to be your peers if you think he shouldn't have gotten at least the estimated length of life of the human being he willingly snuffed out clown.

@@Ancient_Entity you sound like the adults that got slit. You know, the one the testified.

He threw the first punch could have walked away erik Williams testamony didn't want mui to snorkel down the lake because mui could be preserved as a pervert no one In that group wanted him to go look for the phone

@@betty-janececile5214you don’t even watch the fucking video he did NOT THROW THE FIRST PUNCH

@betty-janececile5214 they didn't own the river... also it seems they can do whatever they like to him but he can't do anything to them.. what law in any country says u can take the law into ur own hands even if he had punched the girl which in my opinion she deserved it.. they shouldn't have touched him they should have phoned the police.. so all these people( not kids ) took the law into their own hands without any consequences...that is against the law so where are their charges..

You would rather the jury side with the killer?

@CT2507 they brought it on themselves he wasnt violent till they attacked him have u heard of self defence that's what this case is but the dumb jury couldn't grasp the reality of it..

even miu's coloured friend testified that he didn't understand why miu even approached the young people as they were intoxicated. he knew miu was behaving strange. miu's coloured friend was the only member of miu's group that returned to help the victims of miu.....

Yeah it seems very obvious that he came to them looking for confrontation. If this was self defense, that would mean a serial killer could just go around provoking people until one slaps him so he can "defend" himself

@@blotfd his “colored” friend? When are you from, 1940?

@@ravivandersalm4586 Thats fucking bullshit, did you even watch the video?

​@@kristinn3367? it's to distinguish from miu's regular members of his group that day that testified

Absolute words of wisdom !

Keep telling yourself that but in REALITY if you can’t see why this guy was CLEARLY guilty, you should just keep it to yourself instead of making an idiot out of yourself 🤦‍♂🤣😂

gbh5912 Words of idiocy definitely 🤡

@@eriv4735 You're the one who sports the image of a clown, do you even know that? Anyway, I wish you best, it must be painful knowning you're being raised with a father that doesn't wear the pants in the family, it's why you fear Nicolae and want him destroyed. But please know- Miu is a real man, he's what humans need to guide us to success and balance, he did what nature instructed and when you grow and find courage you'll understand- Best wishes little one, peace~~

@@eriv4735 Love your self imagery! So, ok for you to shun an Alpha male due to fear so say that's done... Now comes the charges for most of the others, I mean- you say you live by the video so you MUST see things that are also criminal, no?

I disagree, getting beat up and killing someone is a lot different… he totally could’ve walked away. They weren’t jumping him or else he would’ve been out cold like when he got slapped in the video.

Walk away.

NOT instigate the entire situation for starters 🤡

The guy the phone belonged to, that Miu went to go look for - there was testimony saying that he didn't want Miu to go and look for the phone but Miu did it anyway. Multiple times he had an opportunity to avoid conflict and get out of the situation, but he didn't. It's only insanity because you choose to see what you want to see and ignore everything else.

The idiot is 👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾👆🏾 Look at the entire evidence what the heck. Zero self defence. It was pretty obvious he was never going home ever again from the evidence..

Not pull a knife he instigated then turned it deadly.. a they didn’t threaten his life

Yes. Yes! You are. It is reasonable to expect a 52 year old man (who is very intelligent!) to declare that he has a weapon and will use it if they don't back off. OR, incredibly, he could have walked away or avoided a group of rowdy teenagers in the first place. Imagine that.

even miu's coloured friend testified that he didn't understand why miu even approached the young people to begin with as he could see they were intoxicated. he thought miu was behaving very strange. miu's coloured friend was the only member of miu's group that returned to help the victims of miu......

He went back twice pretended he had nothing to do with it ditched the knife he made himself look bad

​​@@LynnVon3443Doesn't matter, he still defending himself period. And the judicial system failed him.

​@dare3575 you're defending a drunk killer, you're the failure.

Exactly, in that moment, after already being verbally abused and harrassed, how can one know if walking away will then lead to being followed. Who knows.

@@LynnVon3443 The slashing injuries he inflicted are what made him look bad 😰😖 what about some lying 🤥 I cannot stop cringing about those injuries. 😱😣

There was a duty to self to retreat : self-preservation. Road rage on the river. I avoid groups of men, teens, everybody -- you just don't know. Alcohol blunted everyone's senses that day.

No duty to retreat, correct. He chose to stand his ground due to anger. It’s not self defense. Also, how about his knife skills?

It's obvious they didn't watch the video

You also don't understand the law. The "no duty to retreat" only applies to businesses and vehicles, similar to the Castle Doctrine. There is no stand your ground law in Wisconsin.

You need to learn the law,

Aint my peers!!!

It wasn’t self defense… you dont get to start altercation and stab your way out of it…

Dante’s police report was credible right after the event, he said Ryley was punched. Ryley herself said she felt a punched but it was a jab. Those two were most credible until they wander off on some air punch of Madison. There simply isn’t one second allowed for this bogus punch.

I know. the kids parents are Trump supporters, they are entitled to win. The Romanian man had no chance. sad but true

My parents taught us to be courteous and polite, and of course, not lie to frame someone or distract from our own faults.

@@questianna You were raised right then. Something all these little monsters that testified during this trial can not relate to.

don't forget to mention this punks who shouldn't have been drinking were drunk! This guy never intended on hurting anyone that day

@@acesslots5944 "Never intended on hurting anyone that day", he disembowelled 5 people that day and killed one of them. The injuries therefore proves you wrong. If he never intended to hurt people that day then at least 4 of those people would not have had the injuries they had. 100% guilty of reckless homicide.

Disemboweled 5 people? Where did you find that information?

Is your butt hurt? You just wait more of you going to end up in prison and maybe you or someone you love could end up in the same situation. Who are you, you're the kind of person who thinks that they can get away what's killing somebody because of the color of your skin in the preference that they brings?

So, if they were taunting him. You're probably the kind of got to go to a sporting event and taunt the players come but that player has no right to stab you. The problem is you white people think that you can get away with everything including and especially murder- the worm has turned and that sucker is going to prison.

The birds are cameras

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*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.

Justice prevailed.

CORRECT verdict 🤡

@@user-cf6tm8yh2h She did testify but refused to do so on camera. She resisted testifying as did a lot of people surrounding this.

@@jeffa847 she testified but all we have is a transcript of what she said. I wonder if that was her decision or the prosecutions decision. It just seems strange that the prosecutions star witness was never actually seen or heard by anyone outside of the courtroom

@@user-cf6tm8yh2h Yeah I thought so too. The way I read it Madison was the one who insisted that she not testify on camera and was refusing to even testify in the beginning. I don't know if you caught it in the trial but the Carlson dad claimed on the stand that he saw a picture of Madison's supposed swollen cheek from the punch on Madison's mom's phone but that the investigators didn't want the picture. That seemed total BS to me. That whole supposed punch happened in about 2 seconds. A whole bunch of the participants claimed she was knocked over until the video showed otherwise.

@@jeffa847 that's very interesting. I only watched tidbits of the trial, and this is the first time I've heard about this. To me, this is starting to look more and more like a botched trial

@@user-cf6tm8yh2h I hope it legally is considered a botched trial and he can get a new one - though it doesn't sound likely. I don't know that he is entirely innocent but I also can see that he was put in a really bad position and it's similar to some experiences I have had so I have some empathy for what it is like to have a large group (or two groups) aggressively antagonize you and surround you. I saw a legal analysis of it done by a lawyer and he felt that he would be sentenced to near the max which would be a life sentence for him. He's a 52 year old engineer with zero criminal record prior to this incident compared to the numerous felonies accumulated by some of the opposing party in their early 20s. Watching their behavior on the video it did not surprise me when they reported their criminal histories

Not to mention how they defamed his character by posting online that he was a pedophile looking for "little girls."

I wouldn't call Miu defenseless. I think he defended himself like a boss, but was defenseless against the states unwarranted charges,and a jury that lacked common sense, reasoning, and empathy

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What so thick people like yourself get get aggressive at them?

I don't have faces, but here are there surnames and genders: Ms. Navarro Mr. Cook Mr. Snough Ms. Pelso Mr. Wiley Ms. Napp Mr. Diedrich Ms. McMahon Mr. Henderlong Mr. Ashland Ms. McMullin Ms. Lewandowski (Spelling corrections welcome.)

and Madison Cohen. The prosecutions star witness!

Only this time an innocent man is going to prison

Not. He's guilty

those poor young people just trying to enjoy the day. truly a monster

Nic lied too..

@@blotfd Yeh, just set out to make a movie for the culture, and some random pedo takes offence

He was the first to be aggressive and touch anyone… i agree the kids could have dealt with it better but it was objectively miu that instigated the whole thing

Yet, there is 100% evidence they defamed him and assaulted him first and repeatedly.

@@questianna curious, isn't it?

Never, they will never face any charges. Its because Nic took the law into his own hands that day so HE charged them and punished them by stabbing them and attempting to murder them. That was overkill. To be exact

​@@TJ-so9xoThey have to face charges for underage drinking, illicit drug use, harassment and elderly abuse. They choked him, slapped him, knocked him down in the water almost drowning him. They need to be charged.

​@@Nono38-jj1tkthey need to but they won't. The prosecution in this case had inaccurate sympathy for the aggressors and unwarranted contempt for the victim

As far as I'm concerned. She never even testified. The prosecutions case was hinged on whether or not Mr Miu struck Maddison. This is a murder trial her butt should have been on the stand unmuted in the courtroom. It's almost like the prosecution trying to hide their star witness

@@TJ-so9xo no Mr Miu didn't murder or attempt to murder anyone. He defended himself against a group of aggressors

I’m an average older person, but I know it takes more than 6 hours to review facts.

obviously he didnt know what he was doing.

I completely agree!

Miu only stabbed an attacker at the moment he/she was attacking. He didn't go after anyone. Each attacker chose to go TO and attack him. There is another reason for his lies and cover-up which wasn't considered, which is an identified psychology behind when some victims of abuse conceal their own defensive actions and feign ignorance of a situation that compromised their safety. They do this because they fear they won't be believed, especially when they are outnumbered.