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Prosecution recounts fatal Apple River stabbing 

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The moments leading up to the fatal Apple River stabbing were reviewed in the prosecution's opening statements.
Nicolae Miu, 54, is facing charges of first-degree intentional homicide for the death of 17-year-old Isaac Schuman and multiple counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide for his alleged role in the stabbings on July 30, 2022.
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Комментарии : 14 тыс.   
@Stoned_Silly
@Stoned_Silly 2 месяца назад
This is why i dont like being around people drinking alcohol....
@user-dh2fs8nd5w
@user-dh2fs8nd5w 2 месяца назад
Especially badly raised underage 16 and 17 year old failures getting drunk drinking alcohol..
@cjdodgeprimecrime
@cjdodgeprimecrime 2 месяца назад
Same!!
@PatchouliStef
@PatchouliStef 2 месяца назад
They're very unpredictable and can go from happy to violent in a split second. I hate bars and I don't like being near drunk people either!
@bub7771
@bub7771 2 месяца назад
Right! Especially all those underage kids that were drinking.
@white_genocide2050
@white_genocide2050 2 месяца назад
They are white
@bigbad-rl9ol
@bigbad-rl9ol 2 месяца назад
This is why I rather stay on my property and just spend time with my dogs people are plum crazy these days.....😢
@dawnr5158
@dawnr5158 2 месяца назад
I can’t agree with you enough! In all honesty sometimes animals are much better company, they love unconditionally and they don’t argue with you!! I worked on a horse farm for about 10 years and I loved it, I’ll take a job working around animals any day then working around humans!! 😊🙏👍
@DG-mh1ss
@DG-mh1ss 2 месяца назад
Exactly. me too. Id rather hand out with my dogs any day all day..
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 2 месяца назад
Agee but those ‘kids’ were horrible bullies
@MichaelJo111
@MichaelJo111 2 месяца назад
Diddo!...it's sad you can't just go out and have a good time without drama or go for a nice little drive without some dick trying to cut you off or fly by you at double the speed limit because your doing "The speed limit." It's definitely not like it use to be. Times are changing....and not for the better. I can't stand negative energy, its such a Debbie Downer.
@k.c.8872
@k.c.8872 2 месяца назад
Agreed
@ejohansson9488
@ejohansson9488 Месяц назад
Lesson to be learned here, you rarely get stabbed for beeing polite, and respectfull...
@Hvanudetfornoget
@Hvanudetfornoget Месяц назад
Being harrased doesn't really qualify for being stabbed to death, but i guess youre american lel
@lingling21100
@lingling21100 Месяц назад
For real xD just be respectful and 95% of the time you won't get stabbed. 5% you will meet a psychopath or someone whose just angry and want to kill but most people won't do this. Just be respectful and pratice mindfulness and nothing will happen
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade Месяц назад
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Mkn28..
@Mkn28.. Месяц назад
Deadly force only could be used in a DEADLY attack or threat situation. You don't stab or shoot people, ( in this case kids), for being slapped. As impolite, rude, or loathsome as those kids were. O.C spray? Ok ! But a knife or gun in this case, totally unnecessary and overreacted!
@alphaomicron8
@alphaomicron8 Месяц назад
@@Mkn28.. spoken like a true democrat, he was pushed, punched and had a hand on his neck, I am sure if you were in that situation you would have remained polite and not use deadly force till the light went out of your keybaord warrior eyes..
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 Месяц назад
Imagine your mate gets stabbed and you all just leave him in the middle of the river to basically die, rather than try help him out the water….
@Drocakd
@Drocakd Месяц назад
Easy to say when you’re not getting stabbed at
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 Месяц назад
Well it wasn’t like he was swing the knife around? He stabbed the lad and then basically was walking away from them all. The lad was laying in the water by himself while all his “mates” ran away and didn’t even attempt to go over to him even when the guy with the knife was no where near them…
@daniellecarmell2046
@daniellecarmell2046 Месяц назад
Such a lame comment … @naffaog256 luckily for you.. you weren’t there and really shouldn’t pass judgement on anyone that was there. I’m.. so if your mate got stabbed… what would you do different ?? Lol it’s really easy to act like you would have done better behind your keyboard 👋🏼
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 Месяц назад
Like I said in my last comment. It’s not like the man was wielding the knife around and going on a rampage. The lad was laid in the water for that long to the point he had to get himself up! While his mates stood there and just filmed him trying to walk. No one person ran over AFTER the man with the knife had walked away… and it wasn’t like it was only a couple of people there was a group a literally group! And not ONE went to help him get up… society today baffles me. Guess everyone’s brought up different 😂 “Everyone’s a gangsta till they get punched in the face”
@revekat2053
@revekat2053 Месяц назад
I don’t think they realize that rocks are deadly weapons and that’s what helped us to become who we are today. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@qball6520
@qball6520 2 месяца назад
None of this would have happened if the mob didn't attack this man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 2 месяца назад
Also wouldn't have happened if he didn't approach the group of teens. Witch why did he? In of states, they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation. I think it's ultimately self defense. But it deppends on how you view this sort of thing. Or how the jury will view it.
@thisguy8373
@thisguy8373 2 месяца назад
​@davidandrews5262 😂 stop the bs...they fudged around an found out. Quit it....listen to the story then figure it out man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 2 месяца назад
@@thisguy8373 i say self defense. But other states and cases have precedent that would say duty to retreat along with initial engaging party. Just depends on state and jury.
@LS-ns2jx
@LS-ns2jx 2 месяца назад
He punched first, words don’t dictate your actions… grow up
@jimbeam-ru1my
@jimbeam-ru1my 2 месяца назад
@@davidandrews5262 "they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation." You're an idiot if you think starting a conversation gives the other party the right to engage in violence.
@SuzeQKnits4997
@SuzeQKnits4997 2 месяца назад
Stuff like this is why i am happy to be an introvert and I truly enjoy spending time alone.....
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 2 месяца назад
So sorry to hear that, life needs some level of Interaction albeit " Friendly positive interaction. 🤔
@amyburch3365
@amyburch3365 2 месяца назад
Jack, you don't understand the definition of introvert. We truly prefer being alone. We don't crave human interaction the same way extroverts do. And, for companionship, we usually have pets that we like more than people.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 2 месяца назад
@@amyburch3365 If we choose to isolate, how will society have a future with which to flourish ?
@tasha3939
@tasha3939 2 месяца назад
@@amyburch3365introvert here I desire human interactions but there are times when I want to be alone
@ThatGuy-sc5rx
@ThatGuy-sc5rx 2 месяца назад
​@@Jack-sk2elcities are filled with absolutely desperstely lonely and miserable people. Being among a bunch of people doesnt inherently equal connection. Look at where society is at and headed. I dont think people choosing to withdraw from a sick world are the problem.
@beanieweenie91
@beanieweenie91 Месяц назад
so you're telling me that if a group of people comes and harasses me and starts calling me a pedo because i'm looking for a lost object and they start hitting me and pushing me and ganging up on me that i will then be prosecuted for defending myself....? that's what i am gathering from this.
@RaptureDragon1
@RaptureDragon1 26 дней назад
Welcome to leftist america. Hurt someone ot steal for your own benefit and you'll be praised. Protect yourself or others and theyll destroy you.
@jerrymason7887
@jerrymason7887 26 дней назад
Then you don't understand what happened.
@thesoultransferprotocol721
@thesoultransferprotocol721 25 дней назад
Yes.
@thesoultransferprotocol721
@thesoultransferprotocol721 25 дней назад
Yes.
@laurenholm8147
@laurenholm8147 25 дней назад
These entitled young “men” incited violence and violence is what they received. That’s what I saw in the video. They attacked him in a way that you may find minimal but he was recovering from heart surgery. I think you should reconsider your opinion. That is all.
@y09p
@y09p Месяц назад
Why cant the court watch the video, what is this 1875???
@EandE-podcast
@EandE-podcast Месяц назад
If that’s the defense for the teens then the video is damning, it’s better to take the video frame by frame and try to convince the jury of whatever he thinks the justification is
@kelceynicole
@kelceynicole Месяц назад
@@EandE-podcastthank you. that makes sense!
@venturini09
@venturini09 Месяц назад
Watching the video wouldn’t allow the prosecution to paint his own version of the story because the video shows them mobbing and screaming at the defendant like they’re wanting to lynch him.
@executivecarrot3420
@executivecarrot3420 Месяц назад
​@@venturini09 Doesn't the video show them doing exactly that? Old man was down in the water and they still kept going at him
@venturini09
@venturini09 Месяц назад
@@executivecarrot3420 exactly. So that’s why I’m guessing that the prosecutor choose still pics instead of the video so he could make the punks look like the victims to a “crazed madman with a knife and bloodlust”
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 2 месяца назад
As someone who spent many summers on the Chattahoochee tubing....nothing is worse than a group of drunken tubers.
@mangos2888
@mangos2888 2 месяца назад
I've been to the Chattahoochee and the Apple River. The Apple River is a lot calmer and more shallow.
@carolbohm9654
@carolbohm9654 2 месяца назад
And egotistical old white men.
@kimsmith6342
@kimsmith6342 2 месяца назад
Maybe a creepy pervert punching woman stabbing kids for mocking him?
@lifeofbru8929
@lifeofbru8929 2 месяца назад
I could think of a few things worse...
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 2 месяца назад
@@lifeofbru8929 well then you've obviously never seen Deliverance.
@Theworstway
@Theworstway 2 месяца назад
When a knife gets pulled out in a street fight… RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 2 месяца назад
or Learn to " Skill Up " 🤔
@Pbplayer48
@Pbplayer48 2 месяца назад
The surviving victims said they didn’t even know he had one. They thought they were being punched. It’s more about situational awareness; don’t put yourself in the fight or flight situation to begin with.
@offstage7
@offstage7 2 месяца назад
Did you even watch the video? They didn’t realize he was stabbing them until later
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 2 месяца назад
Run to who? The democrats you voted for?😂😂😂
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 2 месяца назад
​@@Pbplayer48WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF SOMEONE PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO EVER BE IN THESE SITUATIONS💀
@davidelks8972
@davidelks8972 Месяц назад
If this same group was attacking a cop, this would have been hands down self defense, and investigated from another perspective.
@Celisar1
@Celisar1 Месяц назад
Excellent point and obviously true.
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 25 дней назад
Cops use falling acorns as a reason for self defense.
@_Tommmmmm_
@_Tommmmmm_ Месяц назад
Amazing how you have the right to defend yourself in court but you don’t have the right to defend yourself in normal life…
@ryancalococci8389
@ryancalococci8389 25 дней назад
He punched a girl in the face FIRST. It was all words until that point, so yeah, he will die in prison, and he forfeited those rights in that moment.
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 25 дней назад
If that's true he's the aggressor but I need to see it
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 25 дней назад
There is audio that he hit the girl before they jumped him so that throws out self defense. Looks like he also stabbed her first but I can't tell.
@SpikeyBS
@SpikeyBS 17 дней назад
@@ryancalococci8389alright, go watch the full videa. He was calm
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
@@SpikeyBSyeah he calmy assaulted a girl, then stabbed five others
@UZPvNUCaaQdF
@UZPvNUCaaQdF 2 месяца назад
Every detail about this incident is disgusting and anxiety inducing. Nobody is clean here. The drinking, the horrific taunts, calling another group over to join them, the pushing, the stabbing, the lying...its real life horror
@davidhardie5644
@davidhardie5644 2 месяца назад
I've been watching the court documentary and everyone has been caught lying
@t.j.7789
@t.j.7789 2 месяца назад
If they would have left the elder alone, there would have been no problems!!!!
@LouisCasas
@LouisCasas 2 месяца назад
​@@t.j.7789 💯 *FACTS*
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 2 месяца назад
Anyone know where the whole video of this is?
@psy-chopps
@psy-chopps 2 месяца назад
@@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 it would be on usacrime somewhere
@b.vo.
@b.vo. 2 месяца назад
Moral of the story: leave people alone.
@willipad2277
@willipad2277 2 месяца назад
Opposite to what public school teaches: speak up when something is wrong
@b.vo.
@b.vo. 2 месяца назад
@@willipad2277 the something that was wrong was the teenagers yelling at and attacking him. Should've left him alone instead of mob attacking him.
@NotableSavage2
@NotableSavage2 2 месяца назад
@@willipad2277 Yelling insults at people and taunting them, isn’t speaking up. It’s provocation. Good luck out there.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia 2 месяца назад
Especially leave people alone who have a knife and are fighting back.
@HunterB738
@HunterB738 2 месяца назад
Yup! Mind your own business. That means you Murikans.
@mrwrmr5114
@mrwrmr5114 Месяц назад
If my dad was in the same situation I wouldn't blame him.
@maria89
@maria89 Месяц назад
Your dad goes around charging kids being hostile and slapping teenage girls?
@22Epic
@22Epic Месяц назад
But you wouldn't have been there to comment.
@Elle-gc8xc
@Elle-gc8xc Месяц назад
He’s just stabbed like 5 people and for what?
@Dca9999
@Dca9999 Месяц назад
@@Elle-gc8xc he defended himself from
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 Месяц назад
@@Dca9999 Can you believe that Jawahn Cockfield still gets to play football at St. John’s University in Collegeville, MN after he got his friend killed?
@Rebel1280
@Rebel1280 Месяц назад
Cant believe he was found guilty after so many of the kids were underage and drunk too. At some point people gotta start taking action against this.
@fleapo0p2946
@fleapo0p2946 Месяц назад
he was found guilty because he killed someone. get that in you're head. there was something seriously wrong with that man too
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 25 дней назад
Right. I could tell, the way Nicolae moved, he was pretty hammered.
@musicbruise
@musicbruise 25 дней назад
@@fleapo0p2946 Fucking thank you, holy fuck a rational person in this comments section jesus fuck I can't believe I had to look this hard
@kayc5750
@kayc5750 23 дня назад
@@musicbruiseright?!!! Like how are people justifying this!
@shzykh
@shzykh 19 дней назад
I agree. America has really gone down the shitter when you can't kill people for petty inconveniences anymore.
@NosActivated420
@NosActivated420 2 месяца назад
There's an old saying, you can spend a few seconds getting into trouble but a life time trying to get out of it. Don't mess with people you don't know.
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 2 месяца назад
Heck, don't mess with people you do know.
@taxxzempt3576
@taxxzempt3576 2 месяца назад
The people I know seem worse then those who I do not know! Ya feel me?
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 2 месяца назад
@@google_is_a_criminal I dunno. Didn't he silently approach them, then grab kids in the boat for no apparent reason? It's a weird case, but I wouldn't rush to judgment so quickly.
@TGravy-wp4rc
@TGravy-wp4rc 2 месяца назад
​@@myblacklab7yea they didn't watch the video before commenting as most don't I realize...
@victormaldonado4591
@victormaldonado4591 2 месяца назад
@@TGravy-wp4rcyeah this guy is a murderer
@Kazooten
@Kazooten Месяц назад
Can't believe this case went forward. DA should be fired
@SavageRaccoon
@SavageRaccoon Месяц назад
Dude murdered somebody, and never reported it hoping he wouldn't get caught. The way he had the knife facing up and the motion he was using he was clearly trying to open people up and kill them. Then when arrested he lied about what happened. If he called the cops after he got to safety, told the actual story and explained why he feared for his life, he may have had a believable self defense case.
@strafer8764
@strafer8764 Месяц назад
@@SavageRaccoonkeep lying
@SavageRaccoon
@SavageRaccoon Месяц назад
@@strafer8764 everything I said is accurate, according to videos of different parts of the incident.
@AdoptedPoo
@AdoptedPoo Месяц назад
@@SavageRaccoon self defense isnt murder
@oROBBIEo
@oROBBIEo Месяц назад
@@SavageRaccoon he killed that person but he didn't murder him.
@peterbaxter573
@peterbaxter573 Месяц назад
LMAO dudes over there dying and not a single (friend) is helping. their more worried about getting their bully on with an old man. How disgusting. I fell like everyone of those kids should be charged for the assault and stabbing.
@gophukyurselvs3621
@gophukyurselvs3621 Месяц назад
It’s so pathetic to see people say that Nick was bullied to the point where he committed murder. So did Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold at Columbine High School. They were even physically assaulted and had urine thrown on them. Does that give them an excuse to go and commit murder?
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 Месяц назад
Can you believe that Jawahn Cockfield still gets to play football at St. John’s University in Collegeville, MN after he got his friend killed?
@rachelsill79
@rachelsill79 Месяц назад
And I feel like you got your juris doctorate out of a happy meal
@gophukyurselvs3621
@gophukyurselvs3621 Месяц назад
@@vaati9364 yes he’s a real man unlike Nic
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 Месяц назад
@@gophukyurselvs3621 They are both scum. what is wrong with you?
@pineywoodsriders2184
@pineywoodsriders2184 2 месяца назад
Apple river has a long history of drunken fights. My friends and I narrowly escaped a situation on that river when we were young. Never went back. To many crazy people
@ABDULLAH86SA
@ABDULLAH86SA 2 месяца назад
You mean crazy Karen's and rednecks
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 2 месяца назад
TO many? Is that the same as "from few"? 😂😂😂 JFC...
@ukmedicfrcs
@ukmedicfrcs 2 месяца назад
RU-vid has a long history of fights as well. Just look at the comments here. 🙄
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante 2 месяца назад
@@slappy8941 I bet you have tons of friends.
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante 2 месяца назад
@@ukmedicfrcsstfu and show us your bobz
@raeraebadfingers
@raeraebadfingers 2 месяца назад
This is just one of the many reasons I don't associate with drunks. Been dealing with my drunk ass family far too long to know what could go wrong.
@MZ-mu6om
@MZ-mu6om 2 месяца назад
You have wisdom. Really good to hear that your past experiences are guiding you in the right direction.
@fuqui035
@fuqui035 2 месяца назад
God said my people are stupid
@blessedblessed5018
@blessedblessed5018 2 месяца назад
I'm trying to stop but it's hard
@jaysonb.6669
@jaysonb.6669 2 месяца назад
@@blessedblessed5018 Keep praying to Jesus & dusting yourself off each time you fall. Find a local Church community or support group to help you make a disciplined strategy. Break out of the "sin-shame-despair-resolution-repeat" cycle. Bring it to Jesus. If you are in Christ and have accepted him as your Lord & Savior through FAITH ALONE, know that all your sins are washed away. Past, present & future. He paid IT ALL for me and you. God's grace is sufficient for EVERYTHING.
@harrisonhanson2998
@harrisonhanson2998 2 месяца назад
You & me both!
@jannalam6861
@jannalam6861 Месяц назад
Kids are at fault. Im so glad all my friends are sane and calm people, and none of us drink poison.
@Zachhatesyoutube
@Zachhatesyoutube Месяц назад
Whoever supplied the 17 year old with that much poison better have a conscience that is screaming with guilt. That kid could have died three other times that day.
@KaylaMarie_
@KaylaMarie_ Месяц назад
The kids didnt kill anyone
@brettpid6416
@brettpid6416 Месяц назад
@@KaylaMarie_ consequences
@jannalam6861
@jannalam6861 Месяц назад
@KaylaMarie_ they very well could have. They were just lucky that they didnt. Shoving an old man into water, and also drinking excessively near a big body of water. Many other things could have went wrong that day.
@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7
@ucvrzifc8jxl7fdwvezfw2jguc7 Месяц назад
@@brettpid6416the old guy punched a girl lol
@chrisharrison3245
@chrisharrison3245 Месяц назад
just nothing but a typical group of entitled bullies who deserve to be charged
@Sirius39170
@Sirius39170 Месяц назад
Why aren't these kids charged with drunken assault?
@koolarooo
@koolarooo Месяц назад
Because he punched first? And then murdered someone?
@marcellcypher
@marcellcypher Месяц назад
he ran to them
@gregwarren54
@gregwarren54 Месяц назад
Insults aren't assault
@DanielHuet-Vaughn
@DanielHuet-Vaughn Месяц назад
@@koolarooo you are allowed to use reasonable force... the womanspitting and screaming in his face is actually initiating the assault, she was dealt a right hand accordingly... when the other people piled on and pushed the old man down into the rocks and water, it was multiple attackers and he unleashed lethal force....
@janetdobie9722
@janetdobie9722 Месяц назад
They should be facung charges If not for their behaviour Nic would have found his glasses or not and been on his way Their behaviour set all of this in motion He must have been terrified...how could you not be
@ssiegfreid
@ssiegfreid 2 месяца назад
Symptoms of a society that’s lost all decency and respect for each other.
@lordw9609
@lordw9609 2 месяца назад
Facts
@thystaff742
@thystaff742 2 месяца назад
A society that has turned its back to God.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 2 месяца назад
@@thystaff742 God condoned killing.. "Stoning your Children if they don't listen" "Eye for an Eye" "Killing the First Borns" "Justifying tying people up and if animals ate them it was his will" "Genital Mutilation (Isn't killing but bad enough" Bible is Brutal.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 2 месяца назад
Humans are Animals, Some can rise above their baser instincts the majority of the time but some never do and even the ones that can will drop to that level eventually if pushed or shoved. You can't trust Humans..
@scotts5308
@scotts5308 2 месяца назад
Thank the GOP and Trump.
@Dora_D_Destroyer
@Dora_D_Destroyer Месяц назад
Everyone gangster until they got disemboweled 😂
@anddontcallmeshirley-
@anddontcallmeshirley- 10 дней назад
lol
@noahgonzalez5589
@noahgonzalez5589 Месяц назад
This happens so quick, a lot of times- you won't even realize there's a knife out until it's too late.
@Csper01
@Csper01 2 месяца назад
All involved, from the instigator filming and yelling, to the assault on the man by multiple parties, should be held accountable.
@louisaburns3303
@louisaburns3303 Месяц назад
TOTALLY AGREE
@chrisseger2346
@chrisseger2346 Месяц назад
Knife guy went from victim to murderer real quick. He may have gotten away with stabbing the first guy, but then he stabbed a young woman who posed no threat to him and a guy who was trying to break up the encounter. Should the others face criminal charges of some sort? Sure. But let's not pretend they're in the same league as knife guy.
@kyos8462
@kyos8462 Месяц назад
​@@chrisseger2346had they not attacked him none of it woulda happened period. Drunk immature brats f'd up
@ofthedawn
@ofthedawn Месяц назад
As he shoukd with a mob attacking him. Ill bet theyll think twice at least the survivors ​@chrisseger2346
@kalanevans4171
@kalanevans4171 Месяц назад
@@kyos8462 I completely agree the fact he came back armed showed aggression. HE CAME TO THEM.
@CashisKingtrucking
@CashisKingtrucking 2 месяца назад
Imagine if he didn't have the knife on him. How far would the kids have escalated the situation?
@Ebolacrash
@Ebolacrash 2 месяца назад
exactly
@donprovolone1425
@donprovolone1425 2 месяца назад
They would have killed him and the news would never speak of it lol witch trials are the new "justice" and its on sight. Those kids are evil.
@yolowolf24
@yolowolf24 2 месяца назад
I mean didn't he punch a woman in the face before he was touched by anyone else? Who cares if people are yelling at you, walk away...
@tomatobasil7695
@tomatobasil7695 2 месяца назад
You realize thats when the videos start we don't see anything prior to that. We don't know who did or said what. We don't know why she got hit. We don't know. Everyone on RU-vid has all the facts that they can't possibly have.
@sekokhan5307
@sekokhan5307 2 месяца назад
Not far
@philwhatever3903
@philwhatever3903 Месяц назад
Why does the video say stabbing victims? Rather then stabbed perpetrators?
@ImpulsesOG
@ImpulsesOG Месяц назад
Because they stopped advancing when he pulled out the knife and it became self defense when they reengaged you troglodyte
@GarthWatkins-th3jt
@GarthWatkins-th3jt Месяц назад
Because mainstream media is FULL OF SH¡T, they sp¡n sh¡t to FABRICATE A STORY not report the news in a transparent and unbiased fashion. NEVER trust the media as a reliable source of factual information. They have EDITORS for a reason. They have advertisers that pay a lot of money and therefore have a lot of "pull" in the media. The advertisers are big corporations. They lobby in Congress non stop, the give HUGE campaign donations. "Follow the money" to quote Ross Perot. Follow the money, you'll find who is really in charge, who selects presidents, who causes wars. If you trust almost anything mainstream from the education system to the media to politicians you might as well trust the drug dealer on the corner of 1st and main. We've had a war on drugs, poverty, famine, crime, etc etc when it's been the controllers causing it all to begin with. If people would educate themselves and stop lying to themselves while practicing denial like it's a religion, the picture becomes more and more clear. What does the picture reveal? Almost everything we're taught and told is truth is the opposite- lies lies lies and then more lies and again more lies......yes, it's that bad.
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
bc the old man is a sicko who was the original aggressor when he stabbed the girl
@threeeyedraven9264
@threeeyedraven9264 Месяц назад
Dude was looking for his phone, thought the kids might have taken it. They started assaulting him, he defended himself. Moral of the story, don't move to Wisconsin because you can't defend yourself...
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Месяц назад
That's good advice. Wisconsin doesn't want you here as well. Stay where you are and continue to read your comic books.
@robyee3325
@robyee3325 12 дней назад
Bullshit. If that’s his excuse then he’s a damn liar. The video shows him drop his snorkel in the water after he jumps on one of their rafts and gropes one of the girls sitting in the raft. It’s on video clear as day
@byronco4917
@byronco4917 Месяц назад
It's wild when your friends guts are hanging out and your first thought was "wait, I should film myself reacting to this."
@chriscohen9559
@chriscohen9559 Месяц назад
First time I watched the video I was like Did he really turn the camera to face himself after all that went down?? Yes, yes he did.
@weirdonextdoor164
@weirdonextdoor164 Месяц назад
@@chriscohen9559 yup one sick generation....
@AreM0000
@AreM0000 Месяц назад
For real.
@IndigoChick68
@IndigoChick68 Месяц назад
SOCIOPATH
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV Месяц назад
​@chriscohen9559 the thought process displayed by the cameramans filming is the sole reason this happened; they are all reatarded, thank the parents
@abcdefg1142
@abcdefg1142 2 месяца назад
Disgusting.
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 2 месяца назад
Alcoholics sure are still somehow managed to push the blame on "drug users"
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 2 месяца назад
Disgusting that 13 people can turn violent with 1 man, yet somehow their victim gets charged.
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 2 месяца назад
@@jacobmccandles1767 AMEN they were right out of a bad movie
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 2 месяца назад
@@yungjunkie666 yeah too many young alcoholics bullies
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 2 месяца назад
@jacobmccandles1767 if you think that's disgusting try a mirror
@xxtoxic4lif3r66
@xxtoxic4lif3r66 Месяц назад
This whole situation is just super sad
@robw2158
@robw2158 Месяц назад
This man defended himself against a group of bullies , if they didn't pick a fight nobody would have suffered. Case closed
@miche11evpayne24
@miche11evpayne24 Месяц назад
Not true. He wasn’t held there against his will. He was told to leave them alone, no action was made, he left and came back with a knife. Learn the law before you speak on it
@dylanmccallister1888
@dylanmccallister1888 Месяц назад
@@miche11evpayne24 leaving and coming back with a knife makes it premeditated and its no longer self defense, yes A lot of states do not have a duty to retreat though. I live in one. Which means if i had a knife on me and this happened to me, i chose to stay instead of retreating and im assaulted immediate self defense case for me. A group of people posing a threat come up to you, you arent required to let them control you. Otherwise, we legalized people bulling eachother and pushing them around by requiring you to retreat whenever confronted
@CharnHorpee
@CharnHorpee 4 дня назад
I’m really glad you’re not a lawyer. If you’ve watched the video, Nikolai came up to them, and they kept telling him to go away
@robw2158
@robw2158 4 дня назад
@@miche11evpayne24 erm no, I'll say what I want. This gang of drunk yobs could have walked away too.
@robw2158
@robw2158 4 дня назад
@@CharnHorpee what was stopping them from leaving the area then. If there's trouble in front then walk other way
@whaa3222
@whaa3222 2 месяца назад
This is so disturbing and avoidable. Just sad.
@xo121w
@xo121w 2 месяца назад
Back in the day teens would help him look for the phone. This society is rotten
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie 2 месяца назад
100% agree
@xo121w
@xo121w Месяц назад
@@xavierb9061 what joke? Dumb ass teens stated shouting pedo like a guy after heart surgery is chasing teens ffs
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie Месяц назад
@@xavierb9061 where did you hear that? Besides from the kids because they have been caught lying and talking to each other to get their stories straight. Their testimonies are falling apart on the stand.
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie Месяц назад
@@xavierb9061 yeah you said that the first time. I asked where did you hear it or is it just BS
@JK-Handyman
@JK-Handyman Месяц назад
agreed
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477 Месяц назад
This prosecutor has a talent for twisting hard video evidence towards his bias
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
no he doesnt!! ur just dumb
@sarmadusmani4792
@sarmadusmani4792 27 дней назад
I just wish to salute the parents who raised such upright and wonderfully behaved kids. All of this could have been avoided if escalation and bad mouthing a senior wasn't done by this mob. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
@BirdDogey1
@BirdDogey1 2 месяца назад
Being a bully has consequences.
@Kylorenz710
@Kylorenz710 2 месяца назад
being bullied isnt a hall pass for MURDER either 😂
@CopWifeCopMom
@CopWifeCopMom 2 месяца назад
@@Kylorenz710 The pack mentality scared that old man. He felt threatened. at least 10 young men picking on one old fat guy. Yeah I would’ve felt threatened too
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 2 месяца назад
​@@CopWifeCopMom he wouldn't have had any reason to be scared if he hadn't punched that girl in the face. And I can see stabbing at someone in self-defense but gutting 2 people and attempting to do so to a third person is extremely deviant behavior. There is something very wrong with that guy.
@thecrow4597
@thecrow4597 2 месяца назад
You’re a sick puppy
@carolcolton4901
@carolcolton4901 2 месяца назад
@@CopWifeCopMomBut that is no reason to kill one kid and wound 4 others!
@YaYaPaBla
@YaYaPaBla 2 месяца назад
People just can’t act right anymore.🤦🏼‍♀️
@dayahbpetty9062
@dayahbpetty9062 2 месяца назад
Ikr, this white in white crime is getting out of control!
@miarawks
@miarawks 2 месяца назад
🫓🫓🫓🫓
@SirDingle
@SirDingle 2 месяца назад
Lmao, you think people haven't been acting like this since the dawn of man
@mscnhou1
@mscnhou1 2 месяца назад
​@@SirDingle Exactly, we just have it all on video nowadays
@paulettestegall8530
@paulettestegall8530 2 месяца назад
Exactly. Can't go anywhere without some fools causing some form of trouble.
@Spartan-tm5hx
@Spartan-tm5hx Месяц назад
They did it frame by frame with their narrative. Just play the entire, unedited video. Those kids should have left him alone.
@Iburn247
@Iburn247 Месяц назад
Clearest self defence case ive ever seen televised
@22I22
@22I22 2 месяца назад
Used still images instead of video so we can't hear the "children" acting worse than animals?
@Vicki1930
@Vicki1930 2 месяца назад
So the killer was not an animal? Goes back to the group after he goes and gets his knife? Why not stay away ? He clearly shows intent.
@junicohen7918
@junicohen7918 2 месяца назад
​@Vicki1930 you must be waiting to learn the same lesson.stay vaccinated.
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 2 месяца назад
@@Vicki1930 idk why everyone is sticking up for the murder. Why was he over there regardless with a deadly weapon?
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 2 месяца назад
@@junicohen7918 You talk just like the vaxed tho?
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 2 месяца назад
@@google_is_a_criminal You really typed this? lol. why was that big child over there with a knife hitting women?
@antonchigurh3794
@antonchigurh3794 2 месяца назад
Moral of the story ? Don’t F with people that you know nothing about whether you’re right or wrong.
@jctyler31
@jctyler31 2 месяца назад
If only people were this smart.
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 2 месяца назад
He's gonna get life in jail so you're comment is pretty irrelevant. Derek chauvin supporter? You probably wanted kyle Rittenhouse to be found guilty too 🤡
@joeblowe3180
@joeblowe3180 2 месяца назад
That's the moral you got from this story? Why are you minimizing the actions of that man?
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe 2 месяца назад
@@joeblowe3180what would you have done?
@georgemonde8237
@georgemonde8237 2 месяца назад
If they ignored him this would have never have happened ​@joeblowe3180
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 Месяц назад
“You’ll see that the push doesn’t really do anything as he gets right up”. Realistically, you could say the same thing about the girl that apparently was punched and never went down.
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
so he punched a girl then got his ass handed to him sounds far!!
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
whats not fair is him stabbing five ppl afterwards
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 6 дней назад
@@collinthefrog1136 sure but those girls just as well had no business walking up to a fully grown man who’s clearly not in the right mind. We all know girls who like to be in the middle of the drama but aren’t used to being treated as a man would be. I didn’t see a punch though and im guessing it was not a punch.
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 4 дня назад
@@tonytouch145 the girls can do whatever the hell they want if it is in there rights
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 4 дня назад
@@tonytouch145 the girl aint commit no crime
@Rectyme
@Rectyme Месяц назад
Guess this is what happens when a group of people attack someone who just so happens to have a knife to defend themselves.
@davidmurray3049
@davidmurray3049 Месяц назад
The old fossil could’ve just walked away tbh.
@Rectyme
@Rectyme Месяц назад
​@@davidmurray3049 They could have not surrounded him, threw him down, and punched him in the face. Standing somewhere doesn't justify getting pushed down into the rocky water and punched in the face tbh.
@jamielehman4934
@jamielehman4934 2 месяца назад
Did i read this right? This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight?
@supernatural5354
@supernatural5354 2 месяца назад
You read right
@kiddalingur
@kiddalingur 2 месяца назад
They also started to push him around, Seems to me they had this coming,
@wehocommunitywatch
@wehocommunitywatch 2 месяца назад
And when he fell, one or more of them slapped and/or punched him in the face several times. All while laughing and taunting him. There is no way this is premeditated
@user-dt4kv2lp6z
@user-dt4kv2lp6z 2 месяца назад
Are these kids gang stalkers?
@nemesister5109
@nemesister5109 2 месяца назад
@@kiddalingur death?
@WhydoIneedahandleagain
@WhydoIneedahandleagain Месяц назад
I’m not familiar with this case, but I think I get the gist of it. 8-10 drunk kids thought they’d fuck around with an old man because there’s all of them and just one of him and “what’s he gonna do”… and then they found out. Is that about right?
@Scorpio-mg1fz
@Scorpio-mg1fz Месяц назад
You could'nt have said it better!! I was thinking the same thing!! What's the saying" fuck around and find out !! This whole situation is just sad!!
@lacustina6560
@lacustina6560 Месяц назад
​@@offbeatcomposition did you see the video? these kids laughing and making fun of him, pushing him into the water screaming at him. Normal people dont do that
@lycheemyusic
@lycheemyusic Месяц назад
Fr. That person didnt watch any fuckin video. He didnt pull out the knife til after they gang pushed him into the water.​@@lacustina6560
@SasaRadic-fq5en
@SasaRadic-fq5en Месяц назад
​​@@offbeatcompositionhave you even watched the video at all? It's not true what you're saying. I have seen video about 2 days ago. He tried to walk away and they followed him continuing their shit. They slapped him after they pushed him into the water. That's where the knife started to work...
@alfredthorneborn6295
@alfredthorneborn6295 Месяц назад
Ur dumb as a rock, why would he change clothes and hide from police, why whould he run away from police, lie to police and say the kids drew knifes on him. He approched them, never tried to distance himself, he never made any attempts to get away. Never brandished the knife telling them to get away. Stabbing people that never tuched him, saying it was in self defence and that he was afraid for his life when in reality he was just angry. @@SasaRadic-fq5en
@bromontana8100
@bromontana8100 Месяц назад
These kids are going to get jumped if recognized in public. Prosecution also needs to put them in jail
@jeffminnich3291
@jeffminnich3291 18 дней назад
i agree, if it was my dad, these kids would have to worry for the rest of their short lives.
@leonardborszos4913
@leonardborszos4913 Месяц назад
Fuck around and find out. Best example here, always respect older people and people in general.
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane 2 месяца назад
So what you're saying is, if a gang of people assaults me? I'm not allowed to defend myself?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 2 месяца назад
That's not self defence. He could've walked away, and why did he have a knife in the first place?
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane 2 месяца назад
@Mel-wn9gb he could of walked away you say. ONE he did walk away, and they followed him. TWO They then pushed him down and kept pushing him from getting up while hitting him in the face. How is he supposed to get away when he is Surrounded by people pushing him and hitting him and keeping him from getting up?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 2 месяца назад
@@thewhoopingcrane He walked away, got his knife and then walked back to them.
@Wallcraft_Official
@Wallcraft_Official 2 месяца назад
@@Mel-wn9gb That's clearly not what happened. He was assaulted, and then assaulted again, without any chance to retreat before stabbing several people in a state of fight-or-flight.
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 2 месяца назад
@@Wallcraft_Official Then he should've fought, not disembowelled a 17 year old and stabbed two other people. That's not self defence.
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 2 месяца назад
This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight. Now you have the first half of the story.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 2 месяца назад
I think your half right. I think the teens didn't understand what he said to them. Probably because he is Russian and the words he used didn't translate correctly. So the teens being drunk and high start to taunt him. This is what teens do now days. What Nicolae should have done is walk away, wait to the teens floated down river and then went back to the area to snorkel for the missing phone. But he didn't do this. According to his wife's testimony. He came back to the group and grabbed the knife. Then returned to the confront the teens. This man isn't a child molester, he is a monster though. He got the knife with the hope one of the teens would assault him and he could teach them a lesson.
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 2 месяца назад
@@craiglockwood981 I can understand the frustration. I'm sure I was a piece of work in the early 2000's. Kids these days BLOW MY MIND. Probably just a generational thing. One thing stands true. F around and find out. Especially in the midwest.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 2 месяца назад
@@cadevaughn7596 I think we are basically on the same page. There are consequences for the actions a person takes. I guess when teenagers act stupid for whatever reason they still shouldn't be stabbed. And they shouldn't lose their lives.
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 2 месяца назад
Doesnt matter dont care it brings nothing of merit to the situation
@dqniel1755
@dqniel1755 2 месяца назад
Insults instigating a fight are irrelevant, though. Insulting somebody isn't illegal. Threatening somebody is, though. However, if they were threatening him then why would he run toward them?
@singerkgreen
@singerkgreen Месяц назад
Don't start none, won't be none. They attacked this man and got their guts spilled into the river as a result. FAFO is one of those "for the culture" things the kids were chanting as they assaulted him, and they got the full FAFO experience.
@charliecook-pt6gu
@charliecook-pt6gu Месяц назад
why not play the damn video
@parusyte
@parusyte 6 дней назад
are you stupid
@collinthefrog1136
@collinthefrog1136 6 дней назад
they cant
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 2 месяца назад
The fact that there’s so many people there just casually watching or walking around after multiple teenagers have been stabbed is shocking
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 2 месяца назад
The psychology of large groups. Nobody wants to get involved and they just assume someone else will deal with it, although I’m not going to be the first in line to confront a guy with a knife if I’m unarmed.
@tristanburgos1
@tristanburgos1 2 месяца назад
@@mplslawnguy3389 understandable, it’s just so surprising. You’d like to think when you see people’s lives in danger you’d have the strength and empathy to help in some way. Like there’s literally people bleeding out and trying to hold in their guts, yet no one has the decency to run over there with some real urgency and deescalate the situation. Just sad honestly
@mplslawnguy3389
@mplslawnguy3389 2 месяца назад
@@tristanburgos1 Someone with medical training could have possibly helped if they had some supplies. Tragic regardless. Two lives were lost, victim and stabber. The stabber doesn’t even have a record from what I’ve read. People need to realize that fights can and do end up like this. Cooler heads need to prevail.
@tiahnarodriguez3809
@tiahnarodriguez3809 2 месяца назад
@@tristanburgos1 It’s just the nature of group psychology. Most people don’t get involved because we are programmed to put our own safety first. That’s just how our brains work, but there are individuals who ignore that programming and jump in. I’m one of those people. I’ve had to jump in several times, and each time I noticed that people didn’t step up because they either were in shock, didn’t care, or didn’t know how to help. I can’t fault people for not getting involved when they are in shock or don’t know what to do, but I do find it especially sick when people don’t help because they don’t care because without fail these types of people expect everyone else to help them when they need it. Luckily, not everyone is like this. I’ve been in more situations where we were all strangers but everyone played a part to call for help and help those who were injured until help arrived. It all really depends on who is present at the emergency.
@kreutzz1937
@kreutzz1937 2 месяца назад
Because the old man was in the right.
@artalexander4952
@artalexander4952 Месяц назад
His terminology isn’t correct, they are not victims, they are assailants
@MrFeeny911
@MrFeeny911 Месяц назад
Yep
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade Месяц назад
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Helg3721
@Helg3721 Месяц назад
tell that to the jurors
@patrickharper9297
@patrickharper9297 Месяц назад
if a mob don't get illegally drunk, and illegally assault a guy (fuck around) they don't get cut up (find out) ... simple self defense, guy was afraid for his life
@MartyMcflyxxx
@MartyMcflyxxx 2 месяца назад
My grandpa always said the best way to stay healthy is to mind your own fuking business🤷‍♂️
@debicarter1549
@debicarter1549 2 месяца назад
Gramps sounds like a true LEGGGG. (legend) ❤
@markstallings5768
@markstallings5768 2 месяца назад
@BurnerSckman, okay keyboard warrior tough guy!! Now lets see what you actually do in real life.
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 2 месяца назад
​@BurnerAckmanWhy are you attracted to violence?
@CoreyT127
@CoreyT127 2 месяца назад
@BurnerAckmanone look at the crime stats? And i immediately believe you!😂😂😂
@scottschroeder4920
@scottschroeder4920 2 месяца назад
@BurnerAckmanYou shockingly spelled Brunner syndrome wrong…. Hope for you that you’re trolling
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Месяц назад
"you dont see him getting stabbed in the video", because his 'friend' was filming himself for a reaction vid, jesus these kids are lost
@user-ng2lk5wv4p
@user-ng2lk5wv4p Месяц назад
the video is the reason hes behind bars too so maybe youre wrong
@KevenJobin-cc1gy
@KevenJobin-cc1gy Месяц назад
Kids those days are addicted to their phone filming videos for TikTok just to get likes and subscribers …
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Месяц назад
@@KevenJobin-cc1gy amen, sadly fodder
@Justyburger
@Justyburger Месяц назад
When you watch the kids testimonies, you can definitely see they are lost. I actually found them to be quite dark and deceptive. No sense of morals inside of them. Just lawless.
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 Месяц назад
​@@Justyburger 100%,, they are useless folks
@giftoftime9968
@giftoftime9968 2 месяца назад
Why is the Dad who owns a bar letting underage kids get drunk???
@jvanarsdale04
@jvanarsdale04 2 месяца назад
Right
@tinygrim
@tinygrim 2 месяца назад
R u serious? Different cultures. Who brings a knife to swim.
@fluffyanne1177
@fluffyanne1177 2 месяца назад
Children raising children
@nopenope9118
@nopenope9118 2 месяца назад
Children are legally allowed to drink with their parents in bars until they turn 18 in Wisconsin.
@tinygrim
@tinygrim 2 месяца назад
@@nopenope9118 after 18 , do they quit drinking then?
@prestonhanson501
@prestonhanson501 Месяц назад
The man minded his own business. They ganged up on him. Assaulted him. He fought back. Lesson learned here mind your own business keep your hands to yourself
@jakjones8680
@jakjones8680 Месяц назад
From the video I seen, he's not guilty! Those kids should have left the man alone and not touched him!
@aaronbuster7201
@aaronbuster7201 2 месяца назад
Kids F'd around and found out. Guess they expected the old man to just take the disrespect and beating.
@jesseperez4185
@jesseperez4185 2 месяца назад
Both sides are guilty of being dumb, kids really F'd around and found out. Shame they had to learn life lessons this hard. But old man didn't have to escalate that hard.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 2 месяца назад
@@jesseperez4185Yes he did. He’s pushed into water and they tried to even hold him underwater by pressing on his back. Thats a FIGHT FOR HIS LIFE no other way around it.
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 2 месяца назад
@@jamesethan3749 was this after he punched a women?
@bambbambboyguy123
@bambbambboyguy123 2 месяца назад
@@Pureblood712that’s before
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 2 месяца назад
@@bambbambboyguy123 hmm idk sounds like he should have just called the cops like the rest of us would've had to do.
@navalukthrasher9269
@navalukthrasher9269 2 месяца назад
This type of intimidation to a singular person is called Swarming. Teens/young adults have become notorious for this behaviour, and is more common than everyone thinks.
@lore6803
@lore6803 2 месяца назад
This is the most boomer shit I've ever heard. lol
@doofwop
@doofwop 2 месяца назад
@@lore6803 boomer gonna teach you a lesson just like that someday
@nateclipps
@nateclipps 2 месяца назад
@@lore6803 lmao but its low key true, it mainly happens when an old/elderly person confronts a group/an individual young adult while out "partying" for some wildish behavior. Everyone is loose and hype and emotions are at a high, everyone swarm around and tries to antagonize some form of physical altercation. Nothing new.
@UnfilteredAmerica
@UnfilteredAmerica 2 месяца назад
@@lore6803not at all. Lol happens ofteb
@cdcdogs4961
@cdcdogs4961 2 месяца назад
Point is, when we make a mistake we need to face up to it! We need to tell the TRUTH, that is integrity, telling the truth, and honoring our word no matter the consequences. Common sense, honor, Integrity, honesty, empathy, etc, sadly, IMO, only Gen X and Boomers understand what I’m talking about. Even though these young ADULTS didn’t stab anyone, they own A lot of responsibility in the outcome of what happened to their friend. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@JP.Danny007
@JP.Danny007 Месяц назад
Why isn’t the DA impartial? He should tell the whole story and leave it up to the jury to decide, right??
@pamelag7553
@pamelag7553 Месяц назад
It's an election year maybe? I'm guessing his lawyer will appeal.
@GeneralSantucci1st
@GeneralSantucci1st Месяц назад
We can’t defend ourselves in this world anymore
@ravendragonsong5842
@ravendragonsong5842 2 месяца назад
And this is why I live in the woods with my dog and cats and avoid humans as much as possible EDIT FOR THE KAREN'S AND KEVIN'S: None of us have claimed to be hermits. Speaking for myself I have HIGH standards for the humans I allow in my life. It's a very small number as society has lost its bloody mind. Unlike you I don't rate my value by the number of followers I have it's the content of character, honorable human moral ethical human. I'm Christian and I prefer to be around those who have the same moral compass. Being alone doesn't mean lonely miserable or depressing. It is about having standards and value for yourself. Go find Jesus and stop being hateful nasty humans
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 2 месяца назад
You're so lucky to have that's seclusion I wish I had it
@HomeDIYSStuff
@HomeDIYSStuff 2 месяца назад
here here. My 10 acres isn't far enough away from PEOPLE in general. I'm stacking it up with trees so I don't have to look at them.. lol
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 2 месяца назад
@@HomeDIYSStuff must be a dream,id love it,I only deal with my 2 dogs and 2 cats,I can't wait until the day I can get away from people, I am already in seclusion now but it's not far from people I live on the outskirts of a big city, and I hate it
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 2 месяца назад
We have to make a living in the city. The work in our fields is not there in remote locations.
@kevinbuda7087
@kevinbuda7087 2 месяца назад
you gotta come out some time....and thats when they will get you
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 2 месяца назад
these kids never had a dose of reality until their friend died and i still don’t think they have the capacity to understand the death of their friend was brought on by their indifference to the human condition.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats 2 месяца назад
Do you think that maybe during a physical altercation with aggressive males that maybe its not ok to stab women who are just bystanders?
@user-os7ec4dm8x
@user-os7ec4dm8x 2 месяца назад
@@BennettMats If you were attacked and harrassed by a mob accusing you of being a pedo you might attack back.
@wellhellothere9157
@wellhellothere9157 2 месяца назад
​@@BennettMatsEveryone surrounded him and was aggressive and pushing him around like it was a gang inniatiation. They're lucky most people don't have guns while in the water.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats 2 месяца назад
@@wellhellothere9157 Then why did he stab the woman?
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 2 месяца назад
@@BennettMats i’m in no way defending the actions of the defendant in any way, take your shit somewhere else man.
@dustybun1378
@dustybun1378 2 дня назад
People truly don’t understand self defense laws.
@stefanlennartsson9860
@stefanlennartsson9860 Месяц назад
The person who dropped his or her phone (which Nicolae was looking for) must feel a tons lot of guilt by now.
@ivojuk3666
@ivojuk3666 Месяц назад
Same as the one who is renting tubes...and Colombo is turning in his grawe...
@strawb1793
@strawb1793 2 месяца назад
Playing the videos is more reliable than showing a cut photos or screenshots
@cullenreynolds745
@cullenreynolds745 2 месяца назад
Yes but the cut pictures are very very deliberate and being provided by the prosecutor to try and prove his narrative the video would counter that narrative and benefit the defense in the argument of self-defense
@amb3cog
@amb3cog 2 месяца назад
They do both.
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 2 месяца назад
I saw both the video and the stills and I feel like the two together paint a complete picture. I couldn't even see the stabbing when watching the video because it happened so fast. The stills were very enlightening in that regard. They really showed the degree of deliberateness in his actions. He didn't just wildly stab out trying to defend himself. He stuck that knife in low and deliberately pulled it up as high as he could. That is as perverse and deviant a thing as I have ever seen. That guy should not be walking the streets.
@Puppies-Plants-Politics
@Puppies-Plants-Politics Месяц назад
You saw him being choked and pushed in the water with 5 + guys surrounding him? ​@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline Месяц назад
@@Puppies-Plants-Politics stop. Just stop. Nobody choked him. He got pushed and slapped. And that only happened because he became aggressive with the girl, to which he ADMITTED on the stand today. My original words still stand. I've never seen anything so deviant in my life as what that man did. People "surrounding" him will never justify that. Especially when he shouldn't have even been there in the first place and purposely went looking for trouble.
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 2 месяца назад
These punks taunted, bullied and surrounded this man. This is clear self defense.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 2 месяца назад
Not to mention pushing him underwater trying to drown him
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 2 месяца назад
Why did he have a knife on him ?
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 2 месяца назад
​@allseeingotto2912 why is the sky blue? Like who tf cares...
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 2 месяца назад
@@analogueoverdigital929 It’s pretty relevant to the case 🙄
@EMJE272
@EMJE272 2 месяца назад
​@@allseeingotto2912Because he can
@mpeploe
@mpeploe Месяц назад
A bunch of tough guys trying to mob on 1 man. Seems like a clear case of self defense.
@GoochPanoochTK
@GoochPanoochTK Месяц назад
This is why i drink at home. If i get messed up im in the safety of my home.
@annnoble7181
@annnoble7181 2 месяца назад
Wasn't the old man being attacked? I would have felt threatened too.
@Celtic-Texan
@Celtic-Texan Месяц назад
Yes, and the keyboard mafia are trying to claim he started it all, slapped/punched a girl, then they reacted to that. None of that aligns with the multiple actions that were caught on camera against him prior to him defending himself. He was looking for a phone, they decided to be drunken juvenile delinquents and start trouble with the wrong person that day.
@WonkaBiz
@WonkaBiz Месяц назад
He attacked first, punched a girl in the face…he started it, then stabbed 5 ppl.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 Месяц назад
​@@WonkaBizThey attacked him first. F around and find out. Self defense.
@DavidKyle
@DavidKyle Месяц назад
@@WonkaBiz no. anybody who watched the video knows that's not what happened. these kids have nobody to blame but themselves.
@Santinogabriel10
@Santinogabriel10 Месяц назад
They surrounded him and were jumping up and down and screeching like monkeys. In the video the boys start pushing each other over and it’s like a domino effect and the guy eventually goes down and gets punched in the head. It was so chaotic I don’t even think they knew the guy had hit the woman at that point - if he ever even did. The kid that testified to it saw nothing and clearly was a liar.
@patriciag9063
@patriciag9063 2 месяца назад
Those kids were having a great time taunting that man. They surrounded him, pushed him down, and slapped him. And their laughter got louder and louder and louder until he started defending himself. Shame on them.
@swerve894
@swerve894 2 месяца назад
He was being a drunk weirdo following them around. Yeah the kids were annoying, but you're an adult grown man. Go about your business. What was the game plan? He had the opportunity to walk away like 3 or 4 times but he kept going back. Go figure they looked into his socials and he posts frequently about using self defense. He **wanted** an altercation to happen here because he's a pussy snowflake
@thomashelm7450
@thomashelm7450 2 месяца назад
After he was yelling at them, ran over to them, stopped them, hit a woman for no reason, then they pushed him over and slapped him. He was the instigator and attacked them first, he was the only reason anything happened. His behaviour was just as poor, if not worse.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 2 месяца назад
you are leaving out the most important parts.....Miu left and then came back.....he approached them 1st...he threw the 1st punch......other than that you are spot on😆
@cynthg9547
@cynthg9547 2 месяца назад
​​@@thomashelm7450Not what I seen in the video
@matamba9689
@matamba9689 2 месяца назад
I hope the man gets off and acquitted of all charges.
@arymonem
@arymonem Месяц назад
Bro, that was heartbreaking as hell! Why man, why would you do crap like that?
@Mayoegg
@Mayoegg Месяц назад
Imagine dying over something so meaningless
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Месяц назад
Imagine going to prison for the rest of your life for being stupid.
@DesertDweller1776
@DesertDweller1776 2 месяца назад
The girl wouldn't put her drink down even after being stabbed. No man left behind
@eve3p0
@eve3p0 2 месяца назад
You've clearly never been in shock before
@401Impala
@401Impala 2 месяца назад
@@eve3p0 Does being in shock also apply to the way Nicolae acted afterwards? Keep that same energy.
@BallzDeep666
@BallzDeep666 2 месяца назад
😂 legends don’t fumble in big games
@heavenlyb2850
@heavenlyb2850 2 месяца назад
@@401Impalashock causes you to not feel pain. I don’t know about continuing to stab people who aren’t even touching you?
@401Impala
@401Impala 2 месяца назад
@@heavenlyb2850 Oh so once multiple people stop attacking you, your brain instantaneously recognizes that and acts accordingly? Gotcha. You must be new to Earth.
@Hof79905
@Hof79905 2 месяца назад
Booze and Drugs accomplish nothing but these types of results.
@nessmarroquin5717
@nessmarroquin5717 2 месяца назад
Not every1 who drinks is out doing stuff like this. Some people only have a drink, and play some board games etc. This is way WAAAAY deeper than that... why did this OLD MAN have a knife at this thing, is significantly older than anyone else there, there's soooo many more red flags than substances.. let's not infantilize this man or blame it on inebriance alone.
@yeverett4533
@yeverett4533 2 месяца назад
Booze and drugs is the same thing because alcohol is a drug. Don't believe me, do your own research.
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 2 месяца назад
WHAT?!? Billions of people spend BILLIONS of hours at the river, the ocean, the club, at parties, etc and they do so for decades and nothing like this ever happens. What in the heck are you talking about? I've been going to the river since I was little - around 2 years old. My parents and their friends drank and did whatever drugs they did back then al9ng with at least 50 other couples who were also always at the river. Now I'm 40 and I have river front property. We get on our boat and zoom straight across the river to the same island my parents enjoyed for decades. And there are now more couples out there drinking and doing God knows what types of drugs.... No one has ever been disemboweled or hurt other than the occasional cut from stepping on broken glass. I've been a medical provider for 23 years in the ER and while I do see the occasional alcohol or drug related incident, I see far more "sober" accidental injuries. Kids on trampolines and traffic are the worst. We do see alot of GSW (shootings) at the club between gangs... But as far as most people who live in small towns and have nothing better to do than to drink and smoke and snort and party at the lake, the river, the barn, or the field, or even on four wheelers and side by sides, it's relatively low. If you don't wanna drink, no one is making you. But some people enjoy it. And what you're saying is absolutely 💯 false. "Accomplish absolutely nothing"... 😂😭🤣🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🙄
@sBaum
@sBaum 2 месяца назад
Well said in the land of more than small
@Steve-ev6vx
@Steve-ev6vx 2 месяца назад
@@nessmarroquin5717 He wasn't with them. It's a public river! Most real men carry a pocket knife.
@richieuhh85
@richieuhh85 Месяц назад
While terrible, this is self defense and he should be freed. Teach your kids to respect your elders and not to gang up on a person.
@rockyraccoon6114
@rockyraccoon6114 2 месяца назад
Don’t put your hands on people. Don’t instigated fights. Don’t get messy drunk. Mind your own business. Words to live by.
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 2 месяца назад
Alcohol is always the root problem.
@John-rn1uw
@John-rn1uw 2 месяца назад
You don’t know what you’re talking about. He invaded their space, threw the first punch, and then killed the 17 year old. Throw the book at this guy. Life.
@vincenzonapoles4371
@vincenzonapoles4371 2 месяца назад
And don't stab people
@bobross8585
@bobross8585 2 месяца назад
All of these things apply to the old crusty white dude
@bobross8585
@bobross8585 2 месяца назад
​twixenjoyer-xl7zzhe went up to them and refused to walk away
@rr2109
@rr2109 2 месяца назад
I love how they can only try to prosecute him using still, silent images because the video speaks for itself.
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 Месяц назад
Straight outta the Binger playbook. Because life happens one frame at a time.
@RevTox
@RevTox Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing. Why not show the actual video and let the jurors see what happened?
@horaceball5418
@horaceball5418 Месяц назад
@@RevTox Because the Prosecutors wanna win.
@biggreenblob
@biggreenblob Месяц назад
Yep 100% justified. FAFO
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx Месяц назад
That’s because jurors/people are so stupid
@Positivevibesonly3-16
@Positivevibesonly3-16 7 дней назад
Stabbings happen so fast if you never been in a situation like this you would never understand
@mneofthestate3515
@mneofthestate3515 Месяц назад
They talk about the people who were attacking that 1 man as if they are innocent little kids just enjoying a river float. They attacked him and they were full size people, under age for drinking but out there with alcohol. I saw the video from the first moments and they were attacking him, he defended himself.
@KEEPINGitREAL213
@KEEPINGitREAL213 2 месяца назад
instead of calling 911.... Let's just record this crazy moment!
@dragonflymagictarot1180
@dragonflymagictarot1180 Месяц назад
Exactly wtf
@PizzaCologne3
@PizzaCologne3 Месяц назад
they want tik-tok clout, totally a brain disease cannot be cured.
@videowatcher314
@videowatcher314 Месяц назад
A cellphone recording is very similar to full body armor in some people's minds.
@mj2690
@mj2690 Месяц назад
Because instead of eye witness account they have actual visible proof that this loon should be thrown in jail for the rest of his pathetic life.
@coryb8432
@coryb8432 Месяц назад
I think he was also partly responsible for the way he was hooting and hollering instigating
@douggarber6667
@douggarber6667 Месяц назад
The parents of these kids should be on trial for their bad parenting.
@kolbesmith1175
@kolbesmith1175 Месяц назад
One dad will have to know he failed his son for the rest of his life
@CeeWorld69
@CeeWorld69 Месяц назад
@@kolbesmith1175the mother as well
@amberturdcoloringbook1733
@amberturdcoloringbook1733 Месяц назад
The parents of those kids are Trump supporters and have privileges. same as Trump, crimes don't apply to them rich kids 😥😥
@DavidJohnson-bj5ii
@DavidJohnson-bj5ii Месяц назад
@@amberturdcoloringbook1733 you are full of yourself and have no proof
@tripstar3563
@tripstar3563 Месяц назад
apparently that's a thing now. a teens parents were found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in prison for their son shooting up a school. the parents got in trouble for their child's crimes.
@dkowens98
@dkowens98 28 дней назад
Kids and even adults acting like life is a video game and then complaining when shit blows up in their faces.
@bentorrey12
@bentorrey12 Месяц назад
Old man's not guilty...it's ridiculous
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 Месяц назад
Troll
@kharris0465
@kharris0465 2 месяца назад
Have less friends. You will have less enemies.
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo 2 месяца назад
Have many friends if you wish to be unsuccessful in life.
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 2 месяца назад
Lonely you are 😢
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe 2 месяца назад
@@440-fishermandrock8and drama free
@CHELSEABuckhannon
@CHELSEABuckhannon 2 месяца назад
AMEN ❤❤❤❤
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 2 месяца назад
It's "fewer", Einstein.
@user-uv4zo7og7c
@user-uv4zo7og7c Месяц назад
Multiple young people who have been drinking against one man & holding him under the water? Threaten & gang up on the wrong person and this is what happens...
@MK-ui6gt
@MK-ui6gt Месяц назад
No one held him under water? Are you also blind or just stupid?
@nicholasmaddalena1451
@nicholasmaddalena1451 Месяц назад
He had stabbed 2 people already when he hit the water...do you not watch the video?
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira Месяц назад
@@nicholasmaddalena1451 You seem to have not
@justingandy4259
@justingandy4259 Месяц назад
That man wouldve been dead if this wear Florida
@claytonelkins4807
@claytonelkins4807 Месяц назад
@@nicholasmaddalena1451yeah I have and that’s completely inaccurate.
@sorrowsorrow6759
@sorrowsorrow6759 Месяц назад
This older man was attacked and used self defense.
@Whiskeychicks12
@Whiskeychicks12 Месяц назад
Aj literally looking at his buddy filming him instead of helping had to be a horrific feeling all in itself, the filmer is just as much of a monster. Bruh I got to the end of the video thinking aj surely wouldn’t have survived and the one that likely out of all of them had the best chance of survival was the one who passed just because it hit his heart. Rest in peace isaac🕊️
@FranklinCrew
@FranklinCrew 28 дней назад
Wait, so disemboweled AJ bleeding in the water survived and the one who died is someone named Isaac?
@PatPauloMMA
@PatPauloMMA 2 месяца назад
As a dad, I hope my kids can recognize dangerous situations getting out of hands. Always put a good distance between you and sketchy people. Sometimes you need to be the voice of reason with your friends too.
@NPCHSN
@NPCHSN 2 месяца назад
The “kids” were the sketchy people. And, they should be charged with battery, as adults.
@tmzz3609
@tmzz3609 2 месяца назад
​@@NPCHSNthe problem is the "kids" didn't actually touch Nicolae at all...... The just instigated it by taunting him trying to go viral on TikTok...... The only people to actually touch him were the 5 people in the Carson group. None of these people were kids...... They were all college aged young adults. 4 of the 5 people stabbed were in that group. Only the individual that died was from the group of "kids". The other 4 were Tony, Dante, AJ and Rhylee all being from the second group. The only one of those who didn't assault Nocialae(as far as I can tell) is Tony. AJ(guy who's guts were showing) was literally lunging at Nocialae as he was stabbed. He impaled himself just as much as he was stabbed. The "kids" in this situation never actually touched him in any way. They were laughing and egging it on until they ran away screaming
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 2 месяца назад
The kids were sketchy. The man acted in self defense
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 2 месяца назад
@@NPCHSNexactly!
@Shmyrk
@Shmyrk 2 месяца назад
Amen
@EivinSukoi
@EivinSukoi 2 месяца назад
I am a loner , I don’t drink , and I avoid trouble as long as I can .
@malcriadamedina5358
@malcriadamedina5358 2 месяца назад
Not a flex lol
@BIGBADmouse1
@BIGBADmouse1 2 месяца назад
Congrats you must be so proud
@faronray5765
@faronray5765 Месяц назад
A wolf pack mentality by the teens + alcohol= tragedy. Why not be polite and helpful but kids are not taught these qualities these days.
@TexasBarnRats
@TexasBarnRats Месяц назад
FAFO. Why is this being prosecuted? What is wrong with Wisconsin prosecutors?
@Cultee
@Cultee 2 месяца назад
Watching the video. I think the man’s innocent. Idk how it started but he didn’t start stabbing anyone until he felt like he was being jumped. And it’s not like he kept stabbing after threats were neutralized. It’s sad that it’s teens but, the old man isn’t at fault.
@vanman757
@vanman757 Месяц назад
Totally agree mate !!
@hostergaard
@hostergaard Месяц назад
The video litterally starts with him charging at them grabbing their things and and pulling their stuff. He was the aggressor and refused to leave when told to leave and then attacked the lady and then started stabbing once they defended themselves. He is fully to blame and should be thrown in jail and the keys thrown away.
@mandogundam5779
@mandogundam5779 Месяц назад
Yes the video starts there but there was a lot of build up to the fight. It is not logical for somone good or evil to just decide to attack a crowd of people he/she has no physical advantages over. Plus if he was oit of his mind wanted to murder everyone why he go to a river and stand around and wait for everyone to harrass/attack him. Makes no sense.
@hostergaard
@hostergaard Месяц назад
@@mandogundam5779 If he was so scared for his life it makes no sense for him to keep harassing and attacking them and then keep stabbing them until 5 people where wounded. It does however makes sense that he arrogantly decided that those kids had stolen his phone and they should do whatever he says and let him abuse and attack them as he pleased and when they stood up to him he lost his mind in rage, pulled his knife and started stabbing instead of walking away. As the video shows. Makes no sense that the kids would tell him to walk away if they wanted to attack him. Makes no sense they left him plenty of room and oportunity to do so, it makes no sense they did not do anything until he got violent. It makes no sense that all they did was push him away as kept attacking him and even when he was viciously stabbing and trying to murder them. Poor kid where stabbed and one murdered because of an old arrogant man got angry and decided they needed to die for questioning him.
@mandogundam5779
@mandogundam5779 Месяц назад
@@hostergaard Whil appreciate your input, I think we may have different details or watched a different video each. I am not saying he is totally innocent in his actions, however he was outnumbered, has a major heart condition, and was being accused of a major crime that can take the life away from any man in an instant. Adults have the choice to walk away, but being pushed or even screamed at relentlessly is an assault charge in the here in US, there was a lot of that going on from the teens leading up to the defendants choice to defend himself from further harm. Everyone involved had the option to walk away. But surrounding and harrassing someone because they give off creeper vibes is not ok, its like two wrongs making a right. He could have walked away, they could have called law enforcement and walked away as well. Those teens are not the police and this issue is a big deal because it sets an example that teenagers can get anyome they please thrown in jail, for almost any reason. And if you are in the US like me, that includes us as well, and anybody else that finds themself in a similar situation. I bid you good journey friend.
@craigwhitelaw1481
@craigwhitelaw1481 2 месяца назад
I bet the camera man was only expecting to film all his buddies beat up an older man. Instead of capturing the evidence the older man needed to prove self defence. Irony
@katieg4045
@katieg4045 2 месяца назад
MAYBE the inital person who jumped him but wtf did tony do fr?
@reddeadjuju
@reddeadjuju 2 месяца назад
Caused the problem he was the loudest mouth there getting in the mans face making false accusations and trying to make that man fear his life and he did. ​@@katieg4045
@gordrilla
@gordrilla 2 месяца назад
​@@katieg4045FUCKED AROUND ABD FOUND OUT
@krabsstd4106
@krabsstd4106 2 месяца назад
Karma is a better word lol.
@MrJackson66
@MrJackson66 Месяц назад
He was found GUILTY 😂, irony...
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