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Prosecution recounts fatal Apple River stabbing 

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The moments leading up to the fatal Apple River stabbing were reviewed in the prosecution's opening statements.
Nicolae Miu, 54, is facing charges of first-degree intentional homicide for the death of 17-year-old Isaac Schuman and multiple counts of attempted first-degree intentional homicide for his alleged role in the stabbings on July 30, 2022.
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Комментарии : 14 тыс.   
@bigbad-rl9ol
@bigbad-rl9ol 5 месяцев назад
This is why I rather stay on my property and just spend time with my dogs people are plum crazy these days.....😢
@dawnr5158
@dawnr5158 5 месяцев назад
I can’t agree with you enough! In all honesty sometimes animals are much better company, they love unconditionally and they don’t argue with you!! I worked on a horse farm for about 10 years and I loved it, I’ll take a job working around animals any day then working around humans!! 😊🙏👍
@DG-mh1ss
@DG-mh1ss 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. me too. Id rather hand out with my dogs any day all day..
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 5 месяцев назад
Agee but those ‘kids’ were horrible bullies
@MichaelJo111
@MichaelJo111 5 месяцев назад
Diddo!...it's sad you can't just go out and have a good time without drama or go for a nice little drive without some dick trying to cut you off or fly by you at double the speed limit because your doing "The speed limit." It's definitely not like it use to be. Times are changing....and not for the better. I can't stand negative energy, its such a Debbie Downer.
@k.c.8872
@k.c.8872 5 месяцев назад
Agreed
@SuzeQKnits4997
@SuzeQKnits4997 5 месяцев назад
Stuff like this is why i am happy to be an introvert and I truly enjoy spending time alone.....
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 5 месяцев назад
So sorry to hear that, life needs some level of Interaction albeit " Friendly positive interaction. 🤔
@amyburch3365
@amyburch3365 5 месяцев назад
Jack, you don't understand the definition of introvert. We truly prefer being alone. We don't crave human interaction the same way extroverts do. And, for companionship, we usually have pets that we like more than people.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 5 месяцев назад
@@amyburch3365 If we choose to isolate, how will society have a future with which to flourish ?
@tasha3939
@tasha3939 5 месяцев назад
@@amyburch3365introvert here I desire human interactions but there are times when I want to be alone
@ThatGuy-sc5rx
@ThatGuy-sc5rx 5 месяцев назад
​@@Jack-sk2elcities are filled with absolutely desperstely lonely and miserable people. Being among a bunch of people doesnt inherently equal connection. Look at where society is at and headed. I dont think people choosing to withdraw from a sick world are the problem.
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 5 месяцев назад
As someone who spent many summers on the Chattahoochee tubing....nothing is worse than a group of drunken tubers.
@mangos2888
@mangos2888 5 месяцев назад
I've been to the Chattahoochee and the Apple River. The Apple River is a lot calmer and more shallow.
@carolbohm9654
@carolbohm9654 5 месяцев назад
And egotistical old white men.
@kimsmith6342
@kimsmith6342 5 месяцев назад
Maybe a creepy pervert punching woman stabbing kids for mocking him?
@lifeofbru8929
@lifeofbru8929 5 месяцев назад
I could think of a few things worse...
@kealynbosrock9905
@kealynbosrock9905 5 месяцев назад
@@lifeofbru8929 well then you've obviously never seen Deliverance.
@davidelks8972
@davidelks8972 5 месяцев назад
If this same group was attacking a cop, this would have been hands down self defense, and investigated from another perspective.
@Celisar1
@Celisar1 5 месяцев назад
Excellent point and obviously true.
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 4 месяца назад
Cops use falling acorns as a reason for self defense.
@francisjsantana
@francisjsantana 3 месяца назад
@@darksideblues135the biggest group of cowards to be honest, even situations of rescue can turn sour if you make “the wrong move” around cops 😭
@charlesnol2187
@charlesnol2187 3 месяца назад
Nikolai walked over to the kids and initiated the assault by punching someone first. Then the group reacted, and Nikolai began stabbing people. How do you even justify such an escalation ? Cause they may have said some things, and he got mad? So taking a life and physically assaulting people is okay cause you're mad and there's more of them? The very lack of a moral compass coming from the majority of people here is utterly mind-boggling. Not to mention, the entire assault is caught on camera, but he's the victim? You're insane.
@LenoxArmstrong
@LenoxArmstrong 2 месяца назад
@@charlesnol2187 they’re morons they come to a conclusion in their head without fully assessing the situation and doing research. These are the type of people that need their phones and media privileges taken away honestly.😂
@pineywoodsriders2184
@pineywoodsriders2184 5 месяцев назад
Apple river has a long history of drunken fights. My friends and I narrowly escaped a situation on that river when we were young. Never went back. To many crazy people
@ABDULLAH86SA
@ABDULLAH86SA 5 месяцев назад
You mean crazy Karen's and rednecks
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 5 месяцев назад
TO many? Is that the same as "from few"? 😂😂😂 JFC...
@ukmedicfrcs
@ukmedicfrcs 5 месяцев назад
RU-vid has a long history of fights as well. Just look at the comments here. 🙄
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante 5 месяцев назад
@@slappy8941 I bet you have tons of friends.
@MarceliousLavante
@MarceliousLavante 5 месяцев назад
@@ukmedicfrcsstfu and show us your bobz
@raeraebadfingers
@raeraebadfingers 5 месяцев назад
This is just one of the many reasons I don't associate with drunks. Been dealing with my drunk ass family far too long to know what could go wrong.
@MZ-mu6om
@MZ-mu6om 5 месяцев назад
You have wisdom. Really good to hear that your past experiences are guiding you in the right direction.
@fuqui035
@fuqui035 5 месяцев назад
God said my people are stupid
@blessedblessed5018
@blessedblessed5018 5 месяцев назад
I'm trying to stop but it's hard
@jaysonb.6669
@jaysonb.6669 5 месяцев назад
@@blessedblessed5018 Keep praying to Jesus & dusting yourself off each time you fall. Find a local Church community or support group to help you make a disciplined strategy. Break out of the "sin-shame-despair-resolution-repeat" cycle. Bring it to Jesus. If you are in Christ and have accepted him as your Lord & Savior through FAITH ALONE, know that all your sins are washed away. Past, present & future. He paid IT ALL for me and you. God's grace is sufficient for EVERYTHING.
@harrisonhanson2998
@harrisonhanson2998 5 месяцев назад
You & me both!
@byronco4917
@byronco4917 5 месяцев назад
It's wild when your friends guts are hanging out and your first thought was "wait, I should film myself reacting to this."
@chriscohen9559
@chriscohen9559 5 месяцев назад
First time I watched the video I was like Did he really turn the camera to face himself after all that went down?? Yes, yes he did.
@weirdonextdoor164
@weirdonextdoor164 5 месяцев назад
@@chriscohen9559 yup one sick generation....
@AreM0000
@AreM0000 5 месяцев назад
For real.
@IndigoChick68
@IndigoChick68 5 месяцев назад
SOCIOPATH
@RandoManFPV
@RandoManFPV 5 месяцев назад
​@chriscohen9559 the thought process displayed by the cameramans filming is the sole reason this happened; they are all reatarded, thank the parents
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 5 месяцев назад
Imagine your mate gets stabbed and you all just leave him in the middle of the river to basically die, rather than try help him out the water….
@Drocakd
@Drocakd 5 месяцев назад
Easy to say when you’re not getting stabbed at
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 5 месяцев назад
Well it wasn’t like he was swing the knife around? He stabbed the lad and then basically was walking away from them all. The lad was laying in the water by himself while all his “mates” ran away and didn’t even attempt to go over to him even when the guy with the knife was no where near them…
@Daniellex1818
@Daniellex1818 5 месяцев назад
Such a lame comment … @naffaog256 luckily for you.. you weren’t there and really shouldn’t pass judgement on anyone that was there. I’m.. so if your mate got stabbed… what would you do different ?? Lol it’s really easy to act like you would have done better behind your keyboard 👋🏼
@naffaog2567
@naffaog2567 4 месяца назад
Like I said in my last comment. It’s not like the man was wielding the knife around and going on a rampage. The lad was laid in the water for that long to the point he had to get himself up! While his mates stood there and just filmed him trying to walk. No one person ran over AFTER the man with the knife had walked away… and it wasn’t like it was only a couple of people there was a group a literally group! And not ONE went to help him get up… society today baffles me. Guess everyone’s brought up different 😂 “Everyone’s a gangsta till they get punched in the face”
@revekat2053
@revekat2053 4 месяца назад
I don’t think they realize that rocks are deadly weapons and that’s what helped us to become who we are today. 🤷🏽‍♀️
@NosActivated420
@NosActivated420 5 месяцев назад
There's an old saying, you can spend a few seconds getting into trouble but a life time trying to get out of it. Don't mess with people you don't know.
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 5 месяцев назад
Heck, don't mess with people you do know.
@taxxzempt3576
@taxxzempt3576 5 месяцев назад
The people I know seem worse then those who I do not know! Ya feel me?
@myblacklab7
@myblacklab7 5 месяцев назад
@@google_is_a_criminal I dunno. Didn't he silently approach them, then grab kids in the boat for no apparent reason? It's a weird case, but I wouldn't rush to judgment so quickly.
@TGravy-wp4rc
@TGravy-wp4rc 5 месяцев назад
​@@myblacklab7yea they didn't watch the video before commenting as most don't I realize...
@victormaldonado4591
@victormaldonado4591 5 месяцев назад
@@TGravy-wp4rcyeah this guy is a murderer
@qball6520
@qball6520 5 месяцев назад
None of this would have happened if the mob didn't attack this man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 5 месяцев назад
Also wouldn't have happened if he didn't approach the group of teens. Witch why did he? In of states, they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation. I think it's ultimately self defense. But it deppends on how you view this sort of thing. Or how the jury will view it.
@thisguy8373
@thisguy8373 5 месяцев назад
​@davidandrews5262 😂 stop the bs...they fudged around an found out. Quit it....listen to the story then figure it out man.
@davidandrews5262
@davidandrews5262 5 месяцев назад
@@thisguy8373 i say self defense. But other states and cases have precedent that would say duty to retreat along with initial engaging party. Just depends on state and jury.
@LS-ns2jx
@LS-ns2jx 5 месяцев назад
He punched first, words don’t dictate your actions… grow up
@jimbeam-ru1my
@jimbeam-ru1my 5 месяцев назад
@@davidandrews5262 "they could argue that he is an aggressor of the situation by starting the conversation." You're an idiot if you think starting a conversation gives the other party the right to engage in violence.
@UZPvNUCaaQdF
@UZPvNUCaaQdF 5 месяцев назад
Every detail about this incident is disgusting and anxiety inducing. Nobody is clean here. The drinking, the horrific taunts, calling another group over to join them, the pushing, the stabbing, the lying...its real life horror
@davidhardie5644
@davidhardie5644 5 месяцев назад
I've been watching the court documentary and everyone has been caught lying
@t.j.7789
@t.j.7789 5 месяцев назад
If they would have left the elder alone, there would have been no problems!!!!
@LouisCasas
@LouisCasas 5 месяцев назад
​@@t.j.7789 💯 *FACTS*
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009
@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 5 месяцев назад
Anyone know where the whole video of this is?
@psy-chopps
@psy-chopps 5 месяцев назад
@@dirtluverluveruvdirt7009 it would be on usacrime somewhere
@_Tommmmmm_
@_Tommmmmm_ 4 месяца назад
Amazing how you have the right to defend yourself in court but you don’t have the right to defend yourself in normal life…
@ryancalococci8389
@ryancalococci8389 4 месяца назад
He punched a girl in the face FIRST. It was all words until that point, so yeah, he will die in prison, and he forfeited those rights in that moment.
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 4 месяца назад
If that's true he's the aggressor but I need to see it
@unknownl8154
@unknownl8154 4 месяца назад
There is audio that he hit the girl before they jumped him so that throws out self defense. Looks like he also stabbed her first but I can't tell.
@linotee
@linotee 4 месяца назад
@@ryancalococci8389alright, go watch the full videa. He was calm
@johnkaplan3810
@johnkaplan3810 3 месяца назад
Yeah this stopped being self-defense pretty quickly
@Theworstway
@Theworstway 5 месяцев назад
When a knife gets pulled out in a street fight… RUN FOR YOUR LIFE.
@Jack-sk2el
@Jack-sk2el 5 месяцев назад
or Learn to " Skill Up " 🤔
@Pbplayer48
@Pbplayer48 5 месяцев назад
The surviving victims said they didn’t even know he had one. They thought they were being punched. It’s more about situational awareness; don’t put yourself in the fight or flight situation to begin with.
@offstage7
@offstage7 5 месяцев назад
Did you even watch the video? They didn’t realize he was stabbing them until later
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 5 месяцев назад
Run to who? The democrats you voted for?😂😂😂
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 5 месяцев назад
​@@Pbplayer48WHO'S GOING TO TAKE THE ADVICE OF SOMEONE PRIVILEGED ENOUGH TO EVER BE IN THESE SITUATIONS💀
@b.vo.
@b.vo. 5 месяцев назад
Moral of the story: leave people alone.
@willipad2277
@willipad2277 5 месяцев назад
Opposite to what public school teaches: speak up when something is wrong
@b.vo.
@b.vo. 5 месяцев назад
@@willipad2277 the something that was wrong was the teenagers yelling at and attacking him. Should've left him alone instead of mob attacking him.
@NotableSavage2
@NotableSavage2 5 месяцев назад
@@willipad2277 Yelling insults at people and taunting them, isn’t speaking up. It’s provocation. Good luck out there.
@bthemedia
@bthemedia 5 месяцев назад
Especially leave people alone who have a knife and are fighting back.
@HunterB738
@HunterB738 5 месяцев назад
Yup! Mind your own business. That means you Murikans.
@CashisKingtrucking
@CashisKingtrucking 5 месяцев назад
Imagine if he didn't have the knife on him. How far would the kids have escalated the situation?
@Ebolacrash
@Ebolacrash 5 месяцев назад
exactly
@donprovolone1425
@donprovolone1425 5 месяцев назад
They would have killed him and the news would never speak of it lol witch trials are the new "justice" and its on sight. Those kids are evil.
@yolowolf24
@yolowolf24 5 месяцев назад
I mean didn't he punch a woman in the face before he was touched by anyone else? Who cares if people are yelling at you, walk away...
@tomatobasil7695
@tomatobasil7695 5 месяцев назад
You realize thats when the videos start we don't see anything prior to that. We don't know who did or said what. We don't know why she got hit. We don't know. Everyone on RU-vid has all the facts that they can't possibly have.
@sekokhan5307
@sekokhan5307 5 месяцев назад
Not far
@ZAKKAZZ
@ZAKKAZZ Месяц назад
So the underage children being drunk and assaulting this guy have zero consequences for their actions??
@Jeannette0890
@Jeannette0890 Месяц назад
Correct
@codyashley1059
@codyashley1059 Месяц назад
Wow he killed someone and ran he is a cowered and the fact that u are trying to defend him shows your true colors could have been handled without a knife their kids
@AverageAmericanPersonYT
@AverageAmericanPersonYT Месяц назад
@@codyashley1059 its called self defense plus most of them arent kids
@wesleyferreira9610
@wesleyferreira9610 Месяц назад
Revoltante isso foi legítima defesa só se defendeu dos agressor
@diane4537
@diane4537 29 дней назад
The punk kids asked for big trouble! Ganging up on one man! They should have left him alone! He was just looking for a lost item.
@jamielehman4934
@jamielehman4934 5 месяцев назад
Did i read this right? This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight?
@supernatural5354
@supernatural5354 5 месяцев назад
You read right
@kiddalingur
@kiddalingur 5 месяцев назад
They also started to push him around, Seems to me they had this coming,
@wehocommunitywatch
@wehocommunitywatch 5 месяцев назад
And when he fell, one or more of them slapped and/or punched him in the face several times. All while laughing and taunting him. There is no way this is premeditated
@Larry-k6g8d
@Larry-k6g8d 5 месяцев назад
Are these kids gang stalkers?
@nemesister5109
@nemesister5109 5 месяцев назад
@@kiddalingur death?
@Sirius39170
@Sirius39170 5 месяцев назад
Why aren't these kids charged with drunken assault?
@koolarooo
@koolarooo 5 месяцев назад
Because he punched first? And then murdered someone?
@marcellcypher
@marcellcypher 5 месяцев назад
he ran to them
@gregwarren54
@gregwarren54 5 месяцев назад
Insults aren't assault
@DanielHuet-Vaughn
@DanielHuet-Vaughn 5 месяцев назад
@@koolarooo you are allowed to use reasonable force... the womanspitting and screaming in his face is actually initiating the assault, she was dealt a right hand accordingly... when the other people piled on and pushed the old man down into the rocks and water, it was multiple attackers and he unleashed lethal force....
@janetdobie9722
@janetdobie9722 5 месяцев назад
They should be facung charges If not for their behaviour Nic would have found his glasses or not and been on his way Their behaviour set all of this in motion He must have been terrified...how could you not be
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 4 месяца назад
“You’ll see that the push doesn’t really do anything as he gets right up”. Realistically, you could say the same thing about the girl that apparently was punched and never went down.
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 3 месяца назад
@collinthefrog1136 sure but those girls just as well had no business walking up to a fully grown man who’s clearly not in the right mind. We all know girls who like to be in the middle of the drama but aren’t used to being treated as a man would be. I didn’t see a punch though and im guessing it was not a punch.
@chrisaustin7102
@chrisaustin7102 2 месяца назад
​@collinthefrog1136Quit whining pansy
@Ponchelas1
@Ponchelas1 Месяц назад
​@@tonytouch145 cringy how you justify murder
@tonytouch145
@tonytouch145 Месяц назад
@@Ponchelas1 Not sure how you read that comment and compared it to justifying murder but I will say that people have to be held accountable for their actions and almost every person in this video did something they shouldn’t have done. Yes the guy who stabbed them did the worst thing but they all played a part. Almost every single one of the group tried to escalate the situation because they were drunk and the group mentality kicked in. I feel bad for every victim there that day And their family, but it’s very clear that this all could’ve been avoided if the situation played out. There’s a thin line between self-defense and murder and it seems like alcohol Is the line in this case.
@Ponchelas1
@Ponchelas1 Месяц назад
​@@tonytouch145read your first comment again. You try to justify actions by saying "the GIRL (not that being a grown woman would have made it better) wasn't punched that hard since she didn't fall"....my guy, like what?!?! 😅😅😅 that's cringy...you're making an explanation for a murderous man on the grounds that a girl wasn't punched hard enough for the situation to have escalated the way it did.
@BirdDogey1
@BirdDogey1 5 месяцев назад
Being a bully has consequences.
@Kylorenz710
@Kylorenz710 5 месяцев назад
being bullied isnt a hall pass for MURDER either 😂
@CopWifeCopMom
@CopWifeCopMom 5 месяцев назад
@@Kylorenz710 The pack mentality scared that old man. He felt threatened. at least 10 young men picking on one old fat guy. Yeah I would’ve felt threatened too
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 5 месяцев назад
​@@CopWifeCopMom he wouldn't have had any reason to be scared if he hadn't punched that girl in the face. And I can see stabbing at someone in self-defense but gutting 2 people and attempting to do so to a third person is extremely deviant behavior. There is something very wrong with that guy.
@thecrow4597
@thecrow4597 5 месяцев назад
You’re a sick puppy
@carolcolton4901
@carolcolton4901 5 месяцев назад
@@CopWifeCopMomBut that is no reason to kill one kid and wound 4 others!
@WhydoIneedahandleagain
@WhydoIneedahandleagain 5 месяцев назад
I’m not familiar with this case, but I think I get the gist of it. 8-10 drunk kids thought they’d fuck around with an old man because there’s all of them and just one of him and “what’s he gonna do”… and then they found out. Is that about right?
@Scorpio-mg1fz
@Scorpio-mg1fz 5 месяцев назад
You could'nt have said it better!! I was thinking the same thing!! What's the saying" fuck around and find out !! This whole situation is just sad!!
@lacustina6560
@lacustina6560 5 месяцев назад
​@@offbeatcomposition did you see the video? these kids laughing and making fun of him, pushing him into the water screaming at him. Normal people dont do that
@lycheemyusic
@lycheemyusic 5 месяцев назад
Fr. That person didnt watch any fuckin video. He didnt pull out the knife til after they gang pushed him into the water.​@@lacustina6560
@SasaRadic-fq5en
@SasaRadic-fq5en 5 месяцев назад
​​@@offbeatcompositionhave you even watched the video at all? It's not true what you're saying. I have seen video about 2 days ago. He tried to walk away and they followed him continuing their shit. They slapped him after they pushed him into the water. That's where the knife started to work...
@alfredthorneborn6295
@alfredthorneborn6295 5 месяцев назад
Ur dumb as a rock, why would he change clothes and hide from police, why whould he run away from police, lie to police and say the kids drew knifes on him. He approched them, never tried to distance himself, he never made any attempts to get away. Never brandished the knife telling them to get away. Stabbing people that never tuched him, saying it was in self defence and that he was afraid for his life when in reality he was just angry. @@SasaRadic-fq5en
@22I22
@22I22 5 месяцев назад
Used still images instead of video so we can't hear the "children" acting worse than animals?
@Vicki1930
@Vicki1930 5 месяцев назад
So the killer was not an animal? Goes back to the group after he goes and gets his knife? Why not stay away ? He clearly shows intent.
@junicohen7918
@junicohen7918 5 месяцев назад
​@Vicki1930 you must be waiting to learn the same lesson.stay vaccinated.
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 5 месяцев назад
@@Vicki1930 idk why everyone is sticking up for the murder. Why was he over there regardless with a deadly weapon?
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 5 месяцев назад
@@junicohen7918 You talk just like the vaxed tho?
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 5 месяцев назад
@@google_is_a_criminal You really typed this? lol. why was that big child over there with a knife hitting women?
@Crazy_Schizo
@Crazy_Schizo 3 месяца назад
The media made it seem like he just randomly went after kids in a stabbing spree… he was defending himself against a whole group of idiots
@triciac1019
@triciac1019 2 месяца назад
That is just so true! I thought the same until I watched the video over and over.
@shitposter696
@shitposter696 2 месяца назад
Stabs 4 people....I get it if he stabbed 1 person but he went after the other 3. And therefore is no longer self defense. Dude is going away for the rest of his life
@dre160
@dre160 Месяц назад
Nope too many people still went after him. There is a reason Kyle Rittenhouse is free​@@shitposter696
@Hairybarryy
@Hairybarryy Месяц назад
Not true first person got stabbed other 3 went after​ him. It's self defense against these inbreds on the tubes@shitposter696
@justinreinhart3458
@justinreinhart3458 Месяц назад
Didn't the court point out his group was on the other side of the river? So that means he went over to the kids with a knife and intent.
@ejohansson9488
@ejohansson9488 5 месяцев назад
Lesson to be learned here, you rarely get stabbed for beeing polite, and respectfull...
@Hvanudetfornoget
@Hvanudetfornoget 5 месяцев назад
Being harrased doesn't really qualify for being stabbed to death, but i guess youre american lel
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade 5 месяцев назад
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Mkn28..
@Mkn28.. 5 месяцев назад
Deadly force only could be used in a DEADLY attack or threat situation. You don't stab or shoot people, ( in this case kids), for being slapped. As impolite, rude, or loathsome as those kids were. O.C spray? Ok ! But a knife or gun in this case, totally unnecessary and overreacted!
@alphaomicron8
@alphaomicron8 5 месяцев назад
@@Mkn28.. spoken like a true democrat, he was pushed, punched and had a hand on his neck, I am sure if you were in that situation you would have remained polite and not use deadly force till the light went out of your keybaord warrior eyes..
@sofialoppe6255
@sofialoppe6255 5 месяцев назад
I'm a conservative who is also pro 2A and i'm sorry but too many republicans WANT to kill someone.
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane 5 месяцев назад
So what you're saying is, if a gang of people assaults me? I'm not allowed to defend myself?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 5 месяцев назад
That's not self defence. He could've walked away, and why did he have a knife in the first place?
@thewhoopingcrane
@thewhoopingcrane 5 месяцев назад
@Mel-wn9gb he could of walked away you say. ONE he did walk away, and they followed him. TWO They then pushed him down and kept pushing him from getting up while hitting him in the face. How is he supposed to get away when he is Surrounded by people pushing him and hitting him and keeping him from getting up?
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 5 месяцев назад
@@thewhoopingcrane He walked away, got his knife and then walked back to them.
@Wallcraft_Official
@Wallcraft_Official 5 месяцев назад
@@Mel-wn9gb That's clearly not what happened. He was assaulted, and then assaulted again, without any chance to retreat before stabbing several people in a state of fight-or-flight.
@Mel-wn9gb
@Mel-wn9gb 5 месяцев назад
@@Wallcraft_Official Then he should've fought, not disembowelled a 17 year old and stabbed two other people. That's not self defence.
@abcdefg1142
@abcdefg1142 5 месяцев назад
Disgusting.
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 5 месяцев назад
Alcoholics sure are still somehow managed to push the blame on "drug users"
@jacobmccandles1767
@jacobmccandles1767 5 месяцев назад
Disgusting that 13 people can turn violent with 1 man, yet somehow their victim gets charged.
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 5 месяцев назад
@@jacobmccandles1767 AMEN they were right out of a bad movie
@duzntmatter5926
@duzntmatter5926 5 месяцев назад
@@yungjunkie666 yeah too many young alcoholics bullies
@yungjunkie666
@yungjunkie666 5 месяцев назад
@jacobmccandles1767 if you think that's disgusting try a mirror
@Spartan-tm5hx
@Spartan-tm5hx 4 месяца назад
They did it frame by frame with their narrative. Just play the entire, unedited video. Those kids should have left him alone.
@whaa3222
@whaa3222 5 месяцев назад
This is so disturbing and avoidable. Just sad.
@antonchigurh3794
@antonchigurh3794 5 месяцев назад
Moral of the story ? Don’t F with people that you know nothing about whether you’re right or wrong.
@jctyler31
@jctyler31 5 месяцев назад
If only people were this smart.
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 5 месяцев назад
He's gonna get life in jail so you're comment is pretty irrelevant. Derek chauvin supporter? You probably wanted kyle Rittenhouse to be found guilty too 🤡
@joeblowe3180
@joeblowe3180 5 месяцев назад
That's the moral you got from this story? Why are you minimizing the actions of that man?
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe 5 месяцев назад
@@joeblowe3180what would you have done?
@georgemonde8237
@georgemonde8237 5 месяцев назад
If they ignored him this would have never have happened ​@joeblowe3180
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 5 месяцев назад
This started because Nicolae was about to start searching for a friends phone they had dropped in the water. Then when he neared a group of teens they started yelling at him calling him a child molestor which is what instigated the fight. Now you have the first half of the story.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 5 месяцев назад
I think your half right. I think the teens didn't understand what he said to them. Probably because he is Russian and the words he used didn't translate correctly. So the teens being drunk and high start to taunt him. This is what teens do now days. What Nicolae should have done is walk away, wait to the teens floated down river and then went back to the area to snorkel for the missing phone. But he didn't do this. According to his wife's testimony. He came back to the group and grabbed the knife. Then returned to the confront the teens. This man isn't a child molester, he is a monster though. He got the knife with the hope one of the teens would assault him and he could teach them a lesson.
@cadevaughn7596
@cadevaughn7596 5 месяцев назад
@@craiglockwood981 I can understand the frustration. I'm sure I was a piece of work in the early 2000's. Kids these days BLOW MY MIND. Probably just a generational thing. One thing stands true. F around and find out. Especially in the midwest.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 5 месяцев назад
@@cadevaughn7596 I think we are basically on the same page. There are consequences for the actions a person takes. I guess when teenagers act stupid for whatever reason they still shouldn't be stabbed. And they shouldn't lose their lives.
@inhumanfilth681
@inhumanfilth681 5 месяцев назад
Doesnt matter dont care it brings nothing of merit to the situation
@dqniel1755
@dqniel1755 5 месяцев назад
Insults instigating a fight are irrelevant, though. Insulting somebody isn't illegal. Threatening somebody is, though. However, if they were threatening him then why would he run toward them?
@mrwrmr5114
@mrwrmr5114 5 месяцев назад
If my dad was in the same situation I wouldn't blame him.
@maria89
@maria89 4 месяца назад
Your dad goes around charging kids being hostile and slapping teenage girls?
@22Epic
@22Epic 4 месяца назад
But you wouldn't have been there to comment.
@Elle-gc8xc
@Elle-gc8xc 4 месяца назад
He’s just stabbed like 5 people and for what?
@Dca9999
@Dca9999 4 месяца назад
@@Elle-gc8xc he defended himself from
@vaati9364
@vaati9364 4 месяца назад
@@Dca9999 Can you believe that Jawahn Cockfield still gets to play football at St. John’s University in Collegeville, MN after he got his friend killed?
@ssiegfreid
@ssiegfreid 5 месяцев назад
Symptoms of a society that’s lost all decency and respect for each other.
@lordw9609
@lordw9609 5 месяцев назад
Facts
@thystaff742
@thystaff742 5 месяцев назад
A society that has turned its back to God.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 5 месяцев назад
@@thystaff742 God condoned killing.. "Stoning your Children if they don't listen" "Eye for an Eye" "Killing the First Borns" "Justifying tying people up and if animals ate them it was his will" "Genital Mutilation (Isn't killing but bad enough" Bible is Brutal.
@CelestialBeing-00
@CelestialBeing-00 5 месяцев назад
Humans are Animals, Some can rise above their baser instincts the majority of the time but some never do and even the ones that can will drop to that level eventually if pushed or shoved. You can't trust Humans..
@scotts5308
@scotts5308 5 месяцев назад
Thank the GOP and Trump.
@xo121w
@xo121w 5 месяцев назад
Back in the day teens would help him look for the phone. This society is rotten
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie 5 месяцев назад
100% agree
@xo121w
@xo121w 5 месяцев назад
@@xavierb9061 what joke? Dumb ass teens stated shouting pedo like a guy after heart surgery is chasing teens ffs
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie 5 месяцев назад
@@xavierb9061 where did you hear that? Besides from the kids because they have been caught lying and talking to each other to get their stories straight. Their testimonies are falling apart on the stand.
@MareMarMarie
@MareMarMarie 5 месяцев назад
@@xavierb9061 yeah you said that the first time. I asked where did you hear it or is it just BS
@JK-Handyman
@JK-Handyman 5 месяцев назад
agreed
@YaYaPaBla
@YaYaPaBla 5 месяцев назад
People just can’t act right anymore.🤦🏼‍♀️
@dayahbpetty9062
@dayahbpetty9062 5 месяцев назад
Ikr, this white in white crime is getting out of control!
@miarawks
@miarawks 5 месяцев назад
🫓🫓🫓🫓
@SirDingle
@SirDingle 5 месяцев назад
Lmao, you think people haven't been acting like this since the dawn of man
@mscnhou1
@mscnhou1 5 месяцев назад
​@@SirDingle Exactly, we just have it all on video nowadays
@paulettestegall8530
@paulettestegall8530 5 месяцев назад
Exactly. Can't go anywhere without some fools causing some form of trouble.
@TheBold1994
@TheBold1994 3 месяца назад
Although no one deserves to lose there life over such foolishness; I cannot blame the man for defending himself from a bunch of drunk and aggressive teenagers especially being in water and out numbered
@annnoble7181
@annnoble7181 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't the old man being attacked? I would have felt threatened too.
@Celtic-Texan
@Celtic-Texan 5 месяцев назад
Yes, and the keyboard mafia are trying to claim he started it all, slapped/punched a girl, then they reacted to that. None of that aligns with the multiple actions that were caught on camera against him prior to him defending himself. He was looking for a phone, they decided to be drunken juvenile delinquents and start trouble with the wrong person that day.
@WonkaBiz
@WonkaBiz 5 месяцев назад
He attacked first, punched a girl in the face…he started it, then stabbed 5 ppl.
@AgentSmith911
@AgentSmith911 5 месяцев назад
​@@WonkaBizThey attacked him first. F around and find out. Self defense.
@DavidKyle
@DavidKyle 5 месяцев назад
@@WonkaBiz no. anybody who watched the video knows that's not what happened. these kids have nobody to blame but themselves.
@Santinogabriel10
@Santinogabriel10 5 месяцев назад
They surrounded him and were jumping up and down and screeching like monkeys. In the video the boys start pushing each other over and it’s like a domino effect and the guy eventually goes down and gets punched in the head. It was so chaotic I don’t even think they knew the guy had hit the woman at that point - if he ever even did. The kid that testified to it saw nothing and clearly was a liar.
@artalexander4952
@artalexander4952 5 месяцев назад
His terminology isn’t correct, they are not victims, they are assailants
@MrFeeny911
@MrFeeny911 5 месяцев назад
Yep
@OpinionParade
@OpinionParade 5 месяцев назад
*Thugs and criminals named:* A.J. Martin, Ryhley Mattison, Tony Carlson, Dante Carlson.
@Helg3721
@Helg3721 5 месяцев назад
tell that to the jurors
@ZirkyPlays
@ZirkyPlays Месяц назад
​@@Helg3721jury is nothing but opinion. Facts dint fucking care about your feelings
@forevermustang
@forevermustang Месяц назад
@@ZirkyPlaysimagine saying this and being serious
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 5 месяцев назад
these kids never had a dose of reality until their friend died and i still don’t think they have the capacity to understand the death of their friend was brought on by their indifference to the human condition.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats 5 месяцев назад
Do you think that maybe during a physical altercation with aggressive males that maybe its not ok to stab women who are just bystanders?
@user-os7ec4dm8x
@user-os7ec4dm8x 5 месяцев назад
@@BennettMats If you were attacked and harrassed by a mob accusing you of being a pedo you might attack back.
@wellhellothere9157
@wellhellothere9157 5 месяцев назад
​@@BennettMatsEveryone surrounded him and was aggressive and pushing him around like it was a gang inniatiation. They're lucky most people don't have guns while in the water.
@BennettMats
@BennettMats 5 месяцев назад
@@wellhellothere9157 Then why did he stab the woman?
@arcanusluvalus1388
@arcanusluvalus1388 5 месяцев назад
@@BennettMats i’m in no way defending the actions of the defendant in any way, take your shit somewhere else man.
@Rebel1280
@Rebel1280 5 месяцев назад
Cant believe he was found guilty after so many of the kids were underage and drunk too. At some point people gotta start taking action against this.
@fleapo0p2946
@fleapo0p2946 4 месяца назад
he was found guilty because he killed someone. get that in you're head. there was something seriously wrong with that man too
@darksideblues135
@darksideblues135 4 месяца назад
Right. I could tell, the way Nicolae moved, he was pretty hammered.
@musicbruise
@musicbruise 4 месяца назад
@@fleapo0p2946 Fucking thank you, holy fuck a rational person in this comments section jesus fuck I can't believe I had to look this hard
@kayc5750
@kayc5750 4 месяца назад
@@musicbruiseright?!!! Like how are people justifying this!
@shzykh
@shzykh 4 месяца назад
I agree. America has really gone down the shitter when you can't kill people for petty inconveniences anymore.
@MISTYGarden-l5c
@MISTYGarden-l5c 5 месяцев назад
Be carefull when u start accusing someone of being a child molester. He was being attacked in water. This was self defense
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 5 месяцев назад
you're a troll
@hb7580
@hb7580 5 месяцев назад
But the Right says everyone not straight and married is a groomer! These kids were clearly playing it safe 😂
@Gaulcel
@Gaulcel 5 месяцев назад
@@hb7580 I've never heard someone from the Right say that. You're just making up scenarios in your head
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 5 месяцев назад
These punks taunted, bullied and surrounded this man. This is clear self defense.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 5 месяцев назад
Not to mention pushing him underwater trying to drown him
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 5 месяцев назад
Why did he have a knife on him ?
@analogueoverdigital929
@analogueoverdigital929 5 месяцев назад
​@allseeingotto2912 why is the sky blue? Like who tf cares...
@allseeingotto2912
@allseeingotto2912 5 месяцев назад
@@analogueoverdigital929 It’s pretty relevant to the case 🙄
@EMJE272
@EMJE272 5 месяцев назад
​@@allseeingotto2912Because he can
@giftoftime9968
@giftoftime9968 5 месяцев назад
Why is the Dad who owns a bar letting underage kids get drunk???
@jvanarsdale04
@jvanarsdale04 5 месяцев назад
Right
@tinygrim
@tinygrim 5 месяцев назад
R u serious? Different cultures. Who brings a knife to swim.
@fluffyanne1177
@fluffyanne1177 5 месяцев назад
Children raising children
@nopenope9118
@nopenope9118 5 месяцев назад
Children are legally allowed to drink with their parents in bars until they turn 18 in Wisconsin.
@tinygrim
@tinygrim 5 месяцев назад
@@nopenope9118 after 18 , do they quit drinking then?
@mpeploe
@mpeploe 5 месяцев назад
A bunch of tough guys trying to mob on 1 man. Seems like a clear case of self defense.
@galleriet3185
@galleriet3185 Месяц назад
He stabbed 4 people who didn’t have weapons. Stabbed a defenseless girl and killed a kid in the process. Yeah that’s some real self defense 💀
@blakebrooks8083
@blakebrooks8083 Месяц назад
Buddy these kids were trying to fight his ass off while he was trying to be a bully, these were teens and he was a grown man😑
@dkelly26666
@dkelly26666 Месяц назад
@@blakebrooks8083 Nonsense. They were all laughing and high fiving and cheering while they shoved the 'old' (to their childish asses) guy around. Then, he fought back and ended that stuff. Then, they're big cry-babies. "But, we thought we could do anything we wanted and get away with it???"
@Eric-rm1fs
@Eric-rm1fs Месяц назад
Nothing about this is clear, everyone is at fault. Nobody needed to die here.
@Eric-rm1fs
@Eric-rm1fs Месяц назад
​@@galleriet3185agreed he wasn't defending himself he was looking to stab people.
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 5 месяцев назад
"you dont see him getting stabbed in the video", because his 'friend' was filming himself for a reaction vid, jesus these kids are lost
@user-ng2lk5wv4p
@user-ng2lk5wv4p 5 месяцев назад
the video is the reason hes behind bars too so maybe youre wrong
@KevenJobin-cc1gy
@KevenJobin-cc1gy 5 месяцев назад
Kids those days are addicted to their phone filming videos for TikTok just to get likes and subscribers …
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 5 месяцев назад
@@KevenJobin-cc1gy amen, sadly fodder
@Justyburger
@Justyburger 5 месяцев назад
When you watch the kids testimonies, you can definitely see they are lost. I actually found them to be quite dark and deceptive. No sense of morals inside of them. Just lawless.
@isaactuuri6488
@isaactuuri6488 5 месяцев назад
​@@Justyburger 100%,, they are useless folks
@ravendragonsong5842
@ravendragonsong5842 5 месяцев назад
And this is why I live in the woods with my dog and cats and avoid humans as much as possible EDIT FOR THE KAREN'S AND KEVIN'S: None of us have claimed to be hermits. Speaking for myself I have HIGH standards for the humans I allow in my life. It's a very small number as society has lost its bloody mind. Unlike you I don't rate my value by the number of followers I have it's the content of character, honorable human moral ethical human. I'm Christian and I prefer to be around those who have the same moral compass. Being alone doesn't mean lonely miserable or depressing. It is about having standards and value for yourself. Go find Jesus and stop being hateful nasty humans
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 5 месяцев назад
You're so lucky to have that's seclusion I wish I had it
@HomeDIYSStuff
@HomeDIYSStuff 5 месяцев назад
here here. My 10 acres isn't far enough away from PEOPLE in general. I'm stacking it up with trees so I don't have to look at them.. lol
@maxpunkin3128
@maxpunkin3128 5 месяцев назад
@@HomeDIYSStuff must be a dream,id love it,I only deal with my 2 dogs and 2 cats,I can't wait until the day I can get away from people, I am already in seclusion now but it's not far from people I live on the outskirts of a big city, and I hate it
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 5 месяцев назад
We have to make a living in the city. The work in our fields is not there in remote locations.
@kevinbuda7087
@kevinbuda7087 5 месяцев назад
you gotta come out some time....and thats when they will get you
@patriciag9063
@patriciag9063 5 месяцев назад
Those kids were having a great time taunting that man. They surrounded him, pushed him down, and slapped him. And their laughter got louder and louder and louder until he started defending himself. Shame on them.
@swerve894
@swerve894 5 месяцев назад
He was being a drunk weirdo following them around. Yeah the kids were annoying, but you're an adult grown man. Go about your business. What was the game plan? He had the opportunity to walk away like 3 or 4 times but he kept going back. Go figure they looked into his socials and he posts frequently about using self defense. He **wanted** an altercation to happen here because he's a pussy snowflake
@thomashelm7450
@thomashelm7450 5 месяцев назад
After he was yelling at them, ran over to them, stopped them, hit a woman for no reason, then they pushed him over and slapped him. He was the instigator and attacked them first, he was the only reason anything happened. His behaviour was just as poor, if not worse.
@bobbyswain7049
@bobbyswain7049 5 месяцев назад
you are leaving out the most important parts.....Miu left and then came back.....he approached them 1st...he threw the 1st punch......other than that you are spot on😆
@cynthg9547
@cynthg9547 5 месяцев назад
​​@@thomashelm7450Not what I seen in the video
@matamba9689
@matamba9689 5 месяцев назад
I hope the man gets off and acquitted of all charges.
@Ram-dq1gq
@Ram-dq1gq 5 месяцев назад
One thing we do know for sure…. These “kids” won’t gang up on and slap another grown man in the face ever again. Some life lessons are learned the hard way
@EstellePotter
@EstellePotter 5 месяцев назад
so they beat on him, he defends himself, and they putting him up on murder charges?? like maybe don't beat a man up.. like wtf!
@Vyyc-m9g
@Vyyc-m9g 5 месяцев назад
You are truly dangerous to people around you.
@EstellePotter
@EstellePotter 5 месяцев назад
@@Vyyc-m9g someone beats on me, and I stab them, well maybe keep ya hands to yourself, IDK the whole story of this! but... come on, ya just can't go around putting your hands on ppl,
@aaronbuster7201
@aaronbuster7201 5 месяцев назад
Kids F'd around and found out. Guess they expected the old man to just take the disrespect and beating.
@jesseperez4185
@jesseperez4185 5 месяцев назад
Both sides are guilty of being dumb, kids really F'd around and found out. Shame they had to learn life lessons this hard. But old man didn't have to escalate that hard.
@jamesethan3749
@jamesethan3749 5 месяцев назад
@@jesseperez4185Yes he did. He’s pushed into water and they tried to even hold him underwater by pressing on his back. Thats a FIGHT FOR HIS LIFE no other way around it.
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 5 месяцев назад
@@jamesethan3749 was this after he punched a women?
@bambbambboyguy123
@bambbambboyguy123 5 месяцев назад
@@Pureblood712that’s before
@Pureblood712
@Pureblood712 5 месяцев назад
@@bambbambboyguy123 hmm idk sounds like he should have just called the cops like the rest of us would've had to do.
@Hof79905
@Hof79905 5 месяцев назад
Booze and Drugs accomplish nothing but these types of results.
@gamingbypix
@gamingbypix 5 месяцев назад
Not every1 who drinks is out doing stuff like this. Some people only have a drink, and play some board games etc. This is way WAAAAY deeper than that... why did this OLD MAN have a knife at this thing, is significantly older than anyone else there, there's soooo many more red flags than substances.. let's not infantilize this man or blame it on inebriance alone.
@yeverett4533
@yeverett4533 5 месяцев назад
Booze and drugs is the same thing because alcohol is a drug. Don't believe me, do your own research.
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582
@inthelandofmorethansmall7582 5 месяцев назад
WHAT?!? Billions of people spend BILLIONS of hours at the river, the ocean, the club, at parties, etc and they do so for decades and nothing like this ever happens. What in the heck are you talking about? I've been going to the river since I was little - around 2 years old. My parents and their friends drank and did whatever drugs they did back then al9ng with at least 50 other couples who were also always at the river. Now I'm 40 and I have river front property. We get on our boat and zoom straight across the river to the same island my parents enjoyed for decades. And there are now more couples out there drinking and doing God knows what types of drugs.... No one has ever been disemboweled or hurt other than the occasional cut from stepping on broken glass. I've been a medical provider for 23 years in the ER and while I do see the occasional alcohol or drug related incident, I see far more "sober" accidental injuries. Kids on trampolines and traffic are the worst. We do see alot of GSW (shootings) at the club between gangs... But as far as most people who live in small towns and have nothing better to do than to drink and smoke and snort and party at the lake, the river, the barn, or the field, or even on four wheelers and side by sides, it's relatively low. If you don't wanna drink, no one is making you. But some people enjoy it. And what you're saying is absolutely 💯 false. "Accomplish absolutely nothing"... 😂😭🤣🤷🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤷🏼‍♀️🙄
@sBaum
@sBaum 5 месяцев назад
Well said in the land of more than small
@Steve-ev6vx
@Steve-ev6vx 5 месяцев назад
@@gamingbypix He wasn't with them. It's a public river! Most real men carry a pocket knife.
@noahgonzalez5589
@noahgonzalez5589 5 месяцев назад
This happens so quick, a lot of times- you won't even realize there's a knife out until it's too late.
@mattimeo7612
@mattimeo7612 5 месяцев назад
Am I missing something? This looks an awful lot like self-defense if not simply a FAFO. What happened that this dude was surrounded and attacked in the water like that? If you surround me with 5+ strangers and start hitting me and pushing me under the water, I don't know if I'd be able to show as much restraint as that guy did... and to be honest I don't know about you guys but the way my parents raised me, there just isn't a scenario where you would find me in a group of peers jeering and picking on an older man, let alone surrounding or physically swarming. Not unless we just saw him murder someone or steal some lady's purse anyway. I'm calling FAFO for sure.
@cyberzenASMR
@cyberzenASMR 5 месяцев назад
It’s strange. The teens are stabbed and another goes to lunge in again. Like zombies
@Seasniffer69
@Seasniffer69 5 месяцев назад
They for no damn reason, called him a pedo. It brought other drunk ppl to the crowd, they started to rough him up and push him under the water. At that point, they just tried to kill him
@cyberzenASMR
@cyberzenASMR 5 месяцев назад
@@Seasniffer69 I believe it was the black teenager holding the camera recording who made the disparaging comments of the older man being a pedophile. These teens were dealing with a disoriented drunk man (includes women too) that came up and it was harassing. That does not equal mob behavior to deal with it. Instead of running or walking away. They believed the pedo comment and in the video, grabbed the older man by the neck. In majority of states, grabbing someone anywhere on the neck pushing or squeezing is considered lethal assault. I feel bad for the teens… because they evidently do not know how to neither fight, throw a simple punch, and none carried a weapon. But since day 1 in pre-k, they were educated on morals, theft, assault ranging from sexual, simple, and felony cases. Rip to the teen guy… but him and his friends should have never chose conflict.
@user-ng2lk5wv4p
@user-ng2lk5wv4p 5 месяцев назад
@@cyberzenASMR why didnt the old guy not expect the teens to retaliate after he hit the woman first, everyone here is saying the teens "f'd around and found out" but to me it seems like the opposite?
@cyberzenASMR
@cyberzenASMR 5 месяцев назад
@@user-ng2lk5wv4p Folks get into fights and altercations all the time, which fall into the the assault category. Sometimes it’s not picked up. certain situations all can be charged with assault by escalation and using unreasonable force. The kids messed up when they decided to grab the drunk man by the neck, that’s unreasonable and lethal force. So the drunk is now either justified or catching a much lesser charge.
@strawb1793
@strawb1793 5 месяцев назад
Playing the videos is more reliable than showing a cut photos or screenshots
@cullenreynolds745
@cullenreynolds745 5 месяцев назад
Yes but the cut pictures are very very deliberate and being provided by the prosecutor to try and prove his narrative the video would counter that narrative and benefit the defense in the argument of self-defense
@amb3cog
@amb3cog 5 месяцев назад
They do both.
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 5 месяцев назад
I saw both the video and the stills and I feel like the two together paint a complete picture. I couldn't even see the stabbing when watching the video because it happened so fast. The stills were very enlightening in that regard. They really showed the degree of deliberateness in his actions. He didn't just wildly stab out trying to defend himself. He stuck that knife in low and deliberately pulled it up as high as he could. That is as perverse and deviant a thing as I have ever seen. That guy should not be walking the streets.
@Puppies-Plants-Politics
@Puppies-Plants-Politics 5 месяцев назад
You saw him being choked and pushed in the water with 5 + guys surrounding him? ​@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline
@ShellyCline 5 месяцев назад
@@Puppies-Plants-Politics stop. Just stop. Nobody choked him. He got pushed and slapped. And that only happened because he became aggressive with the girl, to which he ADMITTED on the stand today. My original words still stand. I've never seen anything so deviant in my life as what that man did. People "surrounding" him will never justify that. Especially when he shouldn't have even been there in the first place and purposely went looking for trouble.
@navalukthrasher9269
@navalukthrasher9269 5 месяцев назад
This type of intimidation to a singular person is called Swarming. Teens/young adults have become notorious for this behaviour, and is more common than everyone thinks.
@lore6803
@lore6803 5 месяцев назад
This is the most boomer shit I've ever heard. lol
@doofwop
@doofwop 5 месяцев назад
@@lore6803 boomer gonna teach you a lesson just like that someday
@nateclipps
@nateclipps 5 месяцев назад
@@lore6803 lmao but its low key true, it mainly happens when an old/elderly person confronts a group/an individual young adult while out "partying" for some wildish behavior. Everyone is loose and hype and emotions are at a high, everyone swarm around and tries to antagonize some form of physical altercation. Nothing new.
@UnfilteredAmerica
@UnfilteredAmerica 5 месяцев назад
@@lore6803not at all. Lol happens ofteb
@cdcdogs4961
@cdcdogs4961 5 месяцев назад
Point is, when we make a mistake we need to face up to it! We need to tell the TRUTH, that is integrity, telling the truth, and honoring our word no matter the consequences. Common sense, honor, Integrity, honesty, empathy, etc, sadly, IMO, only Gen X and Boomers understand what I’m talking about. Even though these young ADULTS didn’t stab anyone, they own A lot of responsibility in the outcome of what happened to their friend. 🤦🏻‍♀️
@chrisharrison3245
@chrisharrison3245 5 месяцев назад
just nothing but a typical group of entitled bullies who deserve to be charged
@ms.construed1305
@ms.construed1305 3 месяца назад
Turns out it was one crazy man.
@M60gunner1971
@M60gunner1971 Месяц назад
​@ms.construed1305 no, you're wrong...so very, very wrong.
@dud13
@dud13 28 дней назад
@@M60gunner1971 are you slow in the head? theres no way you've seen the ENTIRE interaction you clearly have no fucking idea what happened besides what you just saw
@bigjohn7932
@bigjohn7932 5 месяцев назад
This man lost his phone, was harassed by the Youngs crowd and they attacked him physically and pushed him under water. With all of the mob violence these days caught on video, I certainly can see where this man felt threatened and defended himself. Unfortunate, to say the least. They could have helped him but they messed with the wrong person. 😢
@81suze
@81suze 5 месяцев назад
⁠he didn’t show the knife and his friend was nearby. His face shows anger, not fear, he didn’t leave, his ego was wounded. He is narcissistic, lies with ease and he is unfazed by violence and death. A truly scary individual !
@imadogsass6717
@imadogsass6717 5 месяцев назад
@@81suzeno, he was assaulted and choked by thugs, do you support thugs assaulting innocent people?
@ilaser4064
@ilaser4064 5 месяцев назад
@@81suze not sure how you're seeing anger, to be honest looks like he was spaced out, so maybe drunk but there was definite fear there too. Not defending him stabbing multiple people, but after watching the video the kids in this situation are far from innocent.
@DtLS
@DtLS 5 месяцев назад
@@81suze Anger? He looks confused, probably concussed from them assaulting him.
@KingBlaze206
@KingBlaze206 5 месяцев назад
He ran towards them
@MartyMcflyxxx
@MartyMcflyxxx 5 месяцев назад
My grandpa always said the best way to stay healthy is to mind your own fuking business🤷‍♂️
@debicarter1549
@debicarter1549 5 месяцев назад
Gramps sounds like a true LEGGGG. (legend) ❤
@markstallings5768
@markstallings5768 5 месяцев назад
@BurnerSckman, okay keyboard warrior tough guy!! Now lets see what you actually do in real life.
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 5 месяцев назад
​@BurnerAckmanWhy are you attracted to violence?
@CoreyT127
@CoreyT127 5 месяцев назад
@BurnerAckmanone look at the crime stats? And i immediately believe you!😂😂😂
@scottschroeder4920
@scottschroeder4920 5 месяцев назад
@BurnerAckmanYou shockingly spelled Brunner syndrome wrong…. Hope for you that you’re trolling
@singerkgreen
@singerkgreen 5 месяцев назад
Don't start none, won't be none. They attacked this man and got their guts spilled into the river as a result. FAFO is one of those "for the culture" things the kids were chanting as they assaulted him, and they got the full FAFO experience.
@rockyraccoon6114
@rockyraccoon6114 5 месяцев назад
Don’t put your hands on people. Don’t instigated fights. Don’t get messy drunk. Mind your own business. Words to live by.
@laurenurban3942
@laurenurban3942 5 месяцев назад
Alcohol is always the root problem.
@John-rn1uw
@John-rn1uw 5 месяцев назад
You don’t know what you’re talking about. He invaded their space, threw the first punch, and then killed the 17 year old. Throw the book at this guy. Life.
@vincenzonapoles4371
@vincenzonapoles4371 5 месяцев назад
And don't stab people
@bobross8585
@bobross8585 5 месяцев назад
All of these things apply to the old crusty white dude
@bobross8585
@bobross8585 5 месяцев назад
​twixenjoyer-xl7zzhe went up to them and refused to walk away
@mssmith9227
@mssmith9227 Месяц назад
That poor man should have left the moment he felt threatened. Those kids should be ashamed of themselves.
@TommyzCrazy
@TommyzCrazy 11 дней назад
well some died so I don't think that man is so innocent
@gOat_GrandMa
@gOat_GrandMa 7 дней назад
@@TommyzCrazy Neither are those teens, they were drunk and felt entitled to bully the guy to his breaking point.
@greatappledates2167
@greatappledates2167 5 месяцев назад
These young adults were harassing and assaulting this man, pushing him around, pushing him into the water and at one point holding his head under the water. They were acting like a disrespectful mob, up until their friend got stabbed. This is a sad story, and everyone would have walked away had they just kept minding their own business and not escalate the situation.
@carolcolton4901
@carolcolton4901 5 месяцев назад
None of this would have happened if Miu hadn't approached the boys at all with a strange look on his face and if he didn't have a knife!
@stevenjohnson190
@stevenjohnson190 5 месяцев назад
Just because he approached them didn't give them the right to hit and yell at him push him down and try to hold his head under water and cause all the drama he clearly defended himself play stupid games win stupid prizes I hate that the boy died but that's a lesson non of them should ever forget dnt bully ppl just because you can
@defaultname7685
@defaultname7685 5 месяцев назад
@@carolcolton4901 yeah you're right if he didn't have a knife he might be dead with how they were attacking him
@RationalNon-conformist
@RationalNon-conformist 5 месяцев назад
@@carolcolton4901well, carrying a knife is not a crime. That’s not the issue here. I think the more important issue here is, had he not approached the group alone, I don’t think this would have happened. If he approached them in a friendly manner, with his wife, this would not have happened. Lesson here is, don’t approach a group of young men who are drinking, especially if you also had drinks. I think the Jury will find him guilty-because he approached them. I heard they hit him after he slapped someone, so I think he was the instigator. Had he not slapped anyone, things would have gone differently. I don’t think he’s an evil guy, but he did not use good judgment in this horrible situation.
@johnj1265
@johnj1265 5 месяцев назад
For starters Greatapple were you there or are you just giving hear say evidence? You can't clearly make them comments from watching this video. That's common sense. Carolcolton and I'm taking it you were there also and know 100% That guy approached the kids first?
@ottomatic3123
@ottomatic3123 5 месяцев назад
I have a suspicion that Madison thought she was a tough guy and got physical, thus she got punched. Now Isaac is dead and her friends got stabbed. I have seen it in many videos. Some woman thinks she's untouchable and batters a man, which usually sets off a violent group reaction. Don't get dragged into nonsense because of some delusional broad.
@DeathOfARockStar
@DeathOfARockStar 5 месяцев назад
No accountability. Not surprised you blame this on a woman.
@nathanbain798
@nathanbain798 5 месяцев назад
In every video the women is pushing telling him “get outa here” She should have kept her hands to herself
@verro9953
@verro9953 5 месяцев назад
@@DeathOfARockStar So a woman can never be blamed?
@thevigilant6884
@thevigilant6884 5 месяцев назад
It’s always women who get men kill each other.
@sentientnutsack5197
@sentientnutsack5197 5 месяцев назад
Facts
@rr2109
@rr2109 5 месяцев назад
I love how they can only try to prosecute him using still, silent images because the video speaks for itself.
@dchawk81
@dchawk81 5 месяцев назад
Straight outta the Binger playbook. Because life happens one frame at a time.
@RevTox
@RevTox 5 месяцев назад
I was thinking the same thing. Why not show the actual video and let the jurors see what happened?
@horaceball5418
@horaceball5418 5 месяцев назад
@@RevTox Because the Prosecutors wanna win.
@biggreenblob
@biggreenblob 5 месяцев назад
Yep 100% justified. FAFO
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx
@YourMomSaysHi_Jinx 5 месяцев назад
That’s because jurors/people are so stupid
@Dora_D_Destroyer
@Dora_D_Destroyer 5 месяцев назад
Everyone gangster until they got disemboweled 😂
@anddontcallmeshirley-
@anddontcallmeshirley- 4 месяца назад
lol
@MarcDickerius
@MarcDickerius 3 месяца назад
😅
@spratt69
@spratt69 2 месяца назад
Yah they fucked around and found out
@boone7777777777
@boone7777777777 Месяц назад
You think this is funny? Your sick
@Dora_D_Destroyer
@Dora_D_Destroyer Месяц назад
@@boone7777777777 1st of all its (you're*) 😂 2nd yup this is funny to me cause he sure got what he ask for 😂 like that other comment said. "He f around and found out 💀"
@patrickharper9297
@patrickharper9297 5 месяцев назад
if a mob don't get illegally drunk, and illegally assault a guy (fuck around) they don't get cut up (find out) ... simple self defense, guy was afraid for his life
@charliehammer8780
@charliehammer8780 5 месяцев назад
Those kids found out the hard way that they can't say and do the nasty things they do when they're online without meeting serious repercussions in real life. Like Mike Tyson said... "Social media made y'all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."
@themonkster333
@themonkster333 5 месяцев назад
EXACTLY !!! F'ed around and found out
@slee2695
@slee2695 5 месяцев назад
Ok boomer
@augsdoggs
@augsdoggs 5 месяцев назад
⁠@@slee2695 People are still saying that? I haven’t heard it in a long time. You’re pretty late to the party with your attempt at disrespect. 😂
@realest_shirts
@realest_shirts 5 месяцев назад
@@slee2695 see you on the river
@slee2695
@slee2695 5 месяцев назад
@@augsdoggs ok boomer
@kharris0465
@kharris0465 5 месяцев назад
Have less friends. You will have less enemies.
@rockstarofredondo
@rockstarofredondo 5 месяцев назад
Have many friends if you wish to be unsuccessful in life.
@440-fishermandrock8
@440-fishermandrock8 5 месяцев назад
Lonely you are 😢
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe
@LorenaMartinez-gs4fe 5 месяцев назад
@@440-fishermandrock8and drama free
@CHELSEABuckhannon
@CHELSEABuckhannon 5 месяцев назад
AMEN ❤❤❤❤
@slappy8941
@slappy8941 5 месяцев назад
It's "fewer", Einstein.
@sarmadusmani4792
@sarmadusmani4792 4 месяца назад
I just wish to salute the parents who raised such upright and wonderfully behaved kids. All of this could have been avoided if escalation and bad mouthing a senior wasn't done by this mob. Play stupid games win stupid prizes.
@smowka
@smowka Месяц назад
People can say whatever tf they want - it’s called the first amendment of the Constitution. You don’t get to kill people because they offended you.
@dkelly26666
@dkelly26666 Месяц назад
@lilacmoon2120 Yes. They also attacked, shoved, laughed, cheered. He defended himself. Yes.
@kwagley
@kwagley 6 дней назад
Yeah, this wasn’t self defense committed by stabby mcstabbers, it was murder. a grown man is drunk tubing on a river and unstable enough to bring a knife in case what? He needs to stab some teenagers? This dude was looking for a reason and evidently people seem to believe these CHILDREN excused a grown man’s attempted massacre. BFFR
@andybautista51
@andybautista51 5 месяцев назад
Watch the video.. those “innocent kids” attacked the older man first and called him a pedo.. they shoved him down not once but twice and instigated the whole situation. Don’t let the stills fool you.. he acted in self defense
@NativeAmerican458
@NativeAmerican458 5 месяцев назад
No, the old man had a knife stabbed young people picked on or not. He was clearly wrong and a young person is dead as a result of his actions. I'm older then Nikolai.
@andybautista51
@andybautista51 5 месяцев назад
@@NativeAmerican458 no a young person is dead because of his posse group's actions.. 5 against 1 is not a fair fight.. they assaulting him first... This is justifiable according to Wisconsin law
@andybautista51
@andybautista51 5 месяцев назад
@@NativeAmerican458 if the group would've left him alone from the beginning.. this wouldn't have happened and that kid would still be alive
@alanmalcheski8882
@alanmalcheski8882 5 месяцев назад
why am I supposed to believe that he approached them with a knife in order to find a phone in the water? That makes zero sense, I just got to this video, but I can imagine what might have really happened... You don't need a knife to pick up a phone, but you might if you're trying to get a phone, or get one back. Did the phone get misplaced after if was used to take pictures of the kids?
@andybautista51
@andybautista51 5 месяцев назад
@@alanmalcheski8882 people carry knives for a number or reasons.. it is a tool.. knives a part of everyday carry
@AnimeBullboy
@AnimeBullboy 5 месяцев назад
Why were these kids attacking this dude. We didn't do stuff like this when I was a boy. You respected your elders. Entitled brats doing disgusting things to someone minding his own business.
@1lapmagic
@1lapmagic 5 месяцев назад
If someone pushes me in the water once, I'm throwing hands. If someone pushes me in the water twice and hits me while doing it, I'm protecting my life.
@sneksteppy
@sneksteppy 5 месяцев назад
Lol you guys do this stuff ALL THE TIME. Sit this one out, DeMarcus.
@shamaradanielson1945
@shamaradanielson1945 5 месяцев назад
He punched a girl n they came to her defense. They kept yelling at him to go away and he started stabbing anyone he got close enough to. People from an adult also kept telling him to go away - he stabbed them too . He went over to where they were .... his group was upriver . Do you have a daughter? If you do then you'll appreciate the boys trying to protect her. I'm old-school too , we both know males never put their hands on any age female back then. I just couldn't not tell you what most of us have gathered through videos and news reports.
@shamaradanielson1945
@shamaradanielson1945 5 месяцев назад
@@1lapmagic well I would hope you didn't punch a minor girl first .
@shamaradanielson1945
@shamaradanielson1945 5 месяцев назад
@@sneksteppy ?????
@roosterdope6778
@roosterdope6778 5 месяцев назад
“They didn’t notice he had a knife” well maybe don’t start a bunch of shit in the first place and none of this would’ve happened anyway
@Angela_2819
@Angela_2819 5 месяцев назад
It doesn't matter who started it. That man deserves to go to prison for a long g time.
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy 5 месяцев назад
Ever notice how all the alpha males are the biggest snowflakes
@Gatsu_Gambino
@Gatsu_Gambino 5 месяцев назад
​@@Angela_2819umm yes it does matter dude He defended himself against a bunch of drunk kids... 🥴 Next time stfu He will get away with literally only like a 1 to 3 year sentence if anything...
@hoidoei941
@hoidoei941 5 месяцев назад
@@Angela_2819Self defense did you actually watch????
@bmac6730
@bmac6730 5 месяцев назад
​@hoidoei941 Did you watch or do you have tunnel vision?
@BrianSalazar-kn5ng
@BrianSalazar-kn5ng 3 месяца назад
This is the total definition of “ F around & find out.
@남동우-v7t
@남동우-v7t 5 месяцев назад
The stupidity and delusion of screaming "This isn't real" makes me sick. Yes it is. Life is no Nintendo game...
@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20
@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 5 месяцев назад
He was obviously in shock...
@DARTHMPK
@DARTHMPK 5 месяцев назад
@@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 which is wild considering how much he was egging on the aggressive behaviour.
@IhaveaDoghouse
@IhaveaDoghouse 5 месяцев назад
@@dehavillandcanadadhc-6twin20 still brain dead, hopefully they grew up that day.
@SavingSoulsMinistries
@SavingSoulsMinistries 5 месяцев назад
and then screeching like a 4 year old haha
@foylebutler8952
@foylebutler8952 5 месяцев назад
too much tik tok.
@tracyrodwell
@tracyrodwell 5 месяцев назад
Multiple young people who have been drinking against one man & holding him under the water? Threaten & gang up on the wrong person and this is what happens...
@MK-ui6gt
@MK-ui6gt 5 месяцев назад
No one held him under water? Are you also blind or just stupid?
@nicholasmaddalena1451
@nicholasmaddalena1451 5 месяцев назад
He had stabbed 2 people already when he hit the water...do you not watch the video?
@Sammysapphira
@Sammysapphira 5 месяцев назад
@@nicholasmaddalena1451 You seem to have not
@justingandy4259
@justingandy4259 5 месяцев назад
That man wouldve been dead if this wear Florida
@claytonelkins4807
@claytonelkins4807 5 месяцев назад
@@nicholasmaddalena1451yeah I have and that’s completely inaccurate.
@superhashbrom8441
@superhashbrom8441 5 месяцев назад
Don't attack an old man next time
@deezNUTZZ-gp6hh
@deezNUTZZ-gp6hh 5 месяцев назад
THE ONLY INTELLIGENT COMMENT ON HERE,, BRAVO.
@OldMillenniall
@OldMillenniall 5 месяцев назад
You missed the part where he assaulted a woman first. Which led to him being knocked off his feet.
@aya5468
@aya5468 5 месяцев назад
True. Older people probably don't mind jail as much considering how little time they have compared with younger people maybe 🤔
@vanman757
@vanman757 5 месяцев назад
Exactly mate !!
@blackhawk_1317
@blackhawk_1317 5 месяцев назад
Exactly
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477
@wouldntyouliketoknow1477 5 месяцев назад
This prosecutor has a talent for twisting hard video evidence towards his bias
@MarvinOfCamelot
@MarvinOfCamelot 3 месяца назад
Only showing stills was deliberate. Seeing it in real time paints another picture.
@barelyreal1
@barelyreal1 3 месяца назад
​@@MarvinOfCamelotagreed. I've seen the video and his narration truly distorts what was actually happening.
@BeLoud13
@BeLoud13 5 месяцев назад
This video vindicates the older gent who was being attacked by several punks. Just because they are teens doesn't mean they can be attacking.
@dustinengle2570
@dustinengle2570 5 месяцев назад
You’d have a point if he didn’t literally stab a little girl first. He stabbed a girl first. Especially being pushed a barely punched doesn’t equate stabbing someone. You’re just a pussy if you believe so.
@taramay8174
@taramay8174 5 месяцев назад
I feel like this is a product of degenerate parenting
@paulosicne8498
@paulosicne8498 5 месяцев назад
Agreed. 100% what I'm thinking.
@joeskys2362
@joeskys2362 5 месяцев назад
@@paulosicne8498 Nope your both wrong, cause this is not the whole video He attacked the teens first. the reason why they attacked him is because he punched a teen girl.
@royburnacoven3559
@royburnacoven3559 5 месяцев назад
​@joeskys2362 yah that's why they are smiling.
@craigwhitelaw1481
@craigwhitelaw1481 5 месяцев назад
I bet the camera man was only expecting to film all his buddies beat up an older man. Instead of capturing the evidence the older man needed to prove self defence. Irony
@katieg4045
@katieg4045 5 месяцев назад
MAYBE the inital person who jumped him but wtf did tony do fr?
@reddeadjuju
@reddeadjuju 5 месяцев назад
Caused the problem he was the loudest mouth there getting in the mans face making false accusations and trying to make that man fear his life and he did. ​@@katieg4045
@gordrilla
@gordrilla 5 месяцев назад
​@@katieg4045FUCKED AROUND ABD FOUND OUT
@krabsstd4106
@krabsstd4106 5 месяцев назад
Karma is a better word lol.
@MrJackson66
@MrJackson66 5 месяцев назад
He was found GUILTY 😂, irony...
@beach355991
@beach355991 5 месяцев назад
These kids were out of control with a mob mentality
@HunterB738
@HunterB738 5 месяцев назад
They learned the hard way
@alexi.3414
@alexi.3414 5 месяцев назад
The guy with the knife certainly didn't look like a "kid".
@AP-gq1xt
@AP-gq1xt 5 месяцев назад
Probably a forced birther who believes in the death penalty. I’m ashamed for any offspring you produced. Gross
@Rodrigo-n4o
@Rodrigo-n4o 5 месяцев назад
@@alexi.3414 He was not out of control with mob mentality. Try to read stupid.
@LordBrittish
@LordBrittish 5 месяцев назад
@@alexi.3414They were big enough to gang up on an adult.
@bromontana8100
@bromontana8100 5 месяцев назад
These kids are going to get jumped if recognized in public. Prosecution also needs to put them in jail
@jeffminnich3291
@jeffminnich3291 4 месяца назад
i agree, if it was my dad, these kids would have to worry for the rest of their short lives.
@gOat_GrandMa
@gOat_GrandMa 7 дней назад
I'm pretty sure after the trial they won't feel any remorse for what they did, but everyone else won't let them forget either.
@manwich5364
@manwich5364 5 месяцев назад
Self defense. If more than one person surrounds you and taunts/assaults you, you should have the right to use force. Hopefully, people learned something from this.
@tonygunk6795
@tonygunk6795 5 месяцев назад
Rittenhouse all over again
@supertruckertom
@supertruckertom 5 месяцев назад
@@tonygunk6795 Mob attacks individual. Similar but Mob in this case did not have a gun also.
@craiglockwood981
@craiglockwood981 5 месяцев назад
Problem is Miu used the wrong type of force. This is not self defense.
@Immortal_BP
@Immortal_BP 5 месяцев назад
problem is he was pushed and then slapped by the same teen. one teen. after that is when he started gutting everyone around him regardless of innocence. you would know this if you watched the video and actually looked at it while using your brain cells or rather brain cell.
@sim_city
@sim_city 5 месяцев назад
Not self defense if you leave and later return with a weapon. Glad you aren't a lawyer, mate.
@artkingofwholefoods74
@artkingofwholefoods74 5 месяцев назад
Ditching the murder weapon doesn’t change the facts. Since when is it a crime to panic, get scared? Nope. When a mob surrounds someone , assaults, and threatens, Don’t be surprised if that person defends themselves with a weapon.
@DPark-w1b
@DPark-w1b 5 месяцев назад
A mob of 17 year olds with no weapons and he chased him down and slided his torso lol
@justcallmecage6765
@justcallmecage6765 5 месяцев назад
​@@DPark-w1bdon't matter. Don't fuck with someone you don't know
@usernameinvalid2675
@usernameinvalid2675 5 месяцев назад
@@DPark-w1bguess you have never known anybody to be stomped to death A group of 17 year olds could do that to him quite easily
@infiniterer287
@infiniterer287 5 месяцев назад
​@@usernameinvalid2675but they didn't. The most they did was push him. He used that as an excuse to go on a rampage, this is the exact definition of EXCESSIVE FORCE.
@Youneverknow100
@Youneverknow100 5 месяцев назад
Dude gets punched in the face while in the water..holding him down..wtf are you talking about..​@@infiniterer287
@mikesmoth-v4w
@mikesmoth-v4w 5 месяцев назад
why is this even a trial? clear self defense.
@debbiewren1520
@debbiewren1520 5 месяцев назад
Maybe but knife didn't have to be used!!!
@AngelLuluBlu
@AngelLuluBlu 5 месяцев назад
He wasn’t afraid for his life so no it was not self defense.
@policelivesmatter3685
@policelivesmatter3685 5 месяцев назад
He stabbed two people that were walking away in the back. I’m only going off this video.
@knowone11111
@knowone11111 5 месяцев назад
Clearly self defense. ⬆⬆⬆ these folks are insane ⬆⬆⬆
@jimmyconway2800
@jimmyconway2800 5 месяцев назад
​@@AngelLuluBluhow do you know what another person felt in a situation that's unlike one you've ever been in?
@y09p
@y09p 5 месяцев назад
Why cant the court watch the video, what is this 1875???
@EandE-podcast
@EandE-podcast 4 месяца назад
If that’s the defense for the teens then the video is damning, it’s better to take the video frame by frame and try to convince the jury of whatever he thinks the justification is
@kelceynicole
@kelceynicole 4 месяца назад
@@EandE-podcastthank you. that makes sense!
@venturini09
@venturini09 4 месяца назад
Watching the video wouldn’t allow the prosecution to paint his own version of the story because the video shows them mobbing and screaming at the defendant like they’re wanting to lynch him.
@Fuck343
@Fuck343 4 месяца назад
​@@venturini09 Doesn't the video show them doing exactly that? Old man was down in the water and they still kept going at him
@venturini09
@venturini09 4 месяца назад
@@Fuck343 exactly. So that’s why I’m guessing that the prosecutor choose still pics instead of the video so he could make the punks look like the victims to a “crazed madman with a knife and bloodlust”
@AMERICANsparky32
@AMERICANsparky32 5 месяцев назад
If I'm at the store, I carry. If I'm at the park with my kids, I carry. If I'm inside my house, I carry. As a responsible gun owner with a firm understanding of the combination of mental instability and evil amongst the masses, I will never NOT carry. Stay vigilant, stay prepared.
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 5 месяцев назад
This is why I'm not having kids. Society is getting worse by the day. What will it be like when they're older?
@stevem-h5e
@stevem-h5e 5 месяцев назад
It's a helluva thing to live in fear.
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 5 месяцев назад
@@stevem-h5e yeah it is. Come visit Chicago, walk around or take public transit and tell me how comfortable you feel.
@__shifty
@__shifty 5 месяцев назад
yeah yeah rambo. we get it. you're such a good little defender that you wont ever float the river with your family so that you can protect them from the river bandits. most ACTUAL shooters i know never talk about "i carry everywhere, i always have a gun, brag brag brag." but im sure you're a real bad ass.
@LC.1990
@LC.1990 5 месяцев назад
@@__shifty lol what are you even upset about? And you know "shooters"? 😂 This dude isn't bragging about anything. He's just saying he's prepared at all times because people are nuts. That's all.
@DesertDweller1776
@DesertDweller1776 5 месяцев назад
The girl wouldn't put her drink down even after being stabbed. No man left behind
@eve3p0
@eve3p0 5 месяцев назад
You've clearly never been in shock before
@401Impala
@401Impala 5 месяцев назад
@@eve3p0 Does being in shock also apply to the way Nicolae acted afterwards? Keep that same energy.
@BallzDeep666
@BallzDeep666 5 месяцев назад
😂 legends don’t fumble in big games
@heavenlyb2850
@heavenlyb2850 5 месяцев назад
@@401Impalashock causes you to not feel pain. I don’t know about continuing to stab people who aren’t even touching you?
@401Impala
@401Impala 5 месяцев назад
@@heavenlyb2850 Oh so once multiple people stop attacking you, your brain instantaneously recognizes that and acts accordingly? Gotcha. You must be new to Earth.
@douggarber6667
@douggarber6667 5 месяцев назад
The parents of these kids should be on trial for their bad parenting.
@kolbesmith1175
@kolbesmith1175 5 месяцев назад
One dad will have to know he failed his son for the rest of his life
@CeeWorld69
@CeeWorld69 5 месяцев назад
@@kolbesmith1175the mother as well
@amberturdcoloringbook1733
@amberturdcoloringbook1733 5 месяцев назад
The parents of those kids are Trump supporters and have privileges. same as Trump, crimes don't apply to them rich kids 😥😥
@DavidJohnson-bj5ii
@DavidJohnson-bj5ii 5 месяцев назад
@@amberturdcoloringbook1733 you are full of yourself and have no proof
@tripstar3563
@tripstar3563 5 месяцев назад
apparently that's a thing now. a teens parents were found guilty and sentenced to 15 years in prison for their son shooting up a school. the parents got in trouble for their child's crimes.
@SpydaGaming
@SpydaGaming Месяц назад
People defending a man who stabbed and murdered a 17yr old is wild. Y'all need help.
@Rambybambi
@Rambybambi Месяц назад
The kid fucked around and found out.
@nellym.6555
@nellym.6555 25 дней назад
FREE Mr. Miu
@washablejunk281
@washablejunk281 5 месяцев назад
Why does this break down not show the women yelling in his face, pushing him, or pulling him?
@Noodlepunk
@Noodlepunk 5 месяцев назад
Cause rhey have to set up the narrative that they were sweet innocent kiddos.
@yolandamofork7632
@yolandamofork7632 5 месяцев назад
That does not even remotely justify STABBING and DISEMBOWLING unarmed teenagers.
@John-hh8lq
@John-hh8lq 5 месяцев назад
@@yolandamofork7632 Yes it does If it is in self defense with a mob of people trying to drown you... what would YOU have done in his situation!?
@yolandamofork7632
@yolandamofork7632 5 месяцев назад
@John-hh8lq so you haven't watched the video I assume. Because I did. 1.) It wasn't a mob it was drunk teenagers on the river and 2.) The suspect approached THEM and then punched one of the girls, which is why the boys started ganging up on him. The psycho then STABBED them. Nothing in the video justifies him disembowling a young unarmed man. Nothing.
@SamuelThrippleton
@SamuelThrippleton 5 месяцев назад
@@John-hh8lqyou sir are not suit for society I hope you’re never in a position of the slightest influence
@tacktiician4978
@tacktiician4978 5 месяцев назад
If you watch the video.. these kids were egging him on, attacking him, pushing him, All yelling at him, he was clearly scared and confused, he didnt pull the knife until he was physically attacked and then the kids were pouncing and yelling like hyenas. Justified.
@HoneyKrisp69
@HoneyKrisp69 5 месяцев назад
This is untrue.
@tacktiician4978
@tacktiician4978 5 месяцев назад
@@HoneyKrisp69 which part
@Mattball82
@Mattball82 5 месяцев назад
@@tacktiician4978they probably didn’t watch the video 🤦‍♂️
@letsgobrandon7297
@letsgobrandon7297 5 месяцев назад
The one even tried holding his head under water.
@patrickwinegar5635
@patrickwinegar5635 5 месяцев назад
GenZ effed around and found out
@PeterRSCFF
@PeterRSCFF 5 месяцев назад
They assaulted him and he defended himself. It’s clear as day. It was a senseless tragedy. That gang of young men should not have attacked him.
@craiglewis8272
@craiglewis8272 5 месяцев назад
I thought they were protecting the girl that he punched in her face
@davidh9354
@davidh9354 5 месяцев назад
He punched a woman in the face, it was the instigating act according to this footage. What are you smoking?
@samhilton4173
@samhilton4173 5 месяцев назад
He defended himself from a man defending the mans friend who was just assaulted. It isn't self defence if you start the fight then escalate to weapons. And also he gutted the guy, it wasn't a defensive swing or stab, it was a crazy brutal and cruel move.
@tyrellwreleck4226
@tyrellwreleck4226 5 месяцев назад
The lady attacked him first. They kept pushing him down. He was already on the ground and being surrounded. He can't even stand up. How can you defend yourself when you're being outnumbered and can't even stand up
@jackburton4892
@jackburton4892 5 месяцев назад
​@duncanmacleod7287Ya I don't understand all these kids saying "he hit a girl first" over and over. She was pushing him in his face while the drunk gang surrounded him. I guess that's why the teens keep lying on the stand. lol
@logangolden607
@logangolden607 5 месяцев назад
Shouldn’t have picked a fight with a grown ass man
@sekiko7183
@sekiko7183 5 месяцев назад
Shouldn't have stabbed a bunch of teenagers. What's your point? Neither side is innocent in this story.
@dlyselxics
@dlyselxics 5 месяцев назад
Grown ass man who needed a knife lol
@jr4338
@jr4338 5 месяцев назад
​@sekiko7183 teenagers who where disrespecting an adult and then jumped him. They wherent VICTIMS....till they got stabbed.
@breakingcymbalsstudios6738
@breakingcymbalsstudios6738 5 месяцев назад
@@sekiko7183they’re teenagers drinking underage????? That’s not going to work well for them.
@jux3283
@jux3283 5 месяцев назад
​​@@sekiko7183 Whyd he stab them? Cause they were getting physical, so, again: They shouldnt have picked a fight with a grown ass man
@tenacityforthetruth2695
@tenacityforthetruth2695 5 месяцев назад
They attacked this Defendant like a pack of hyenas all because he was by their group looking for his phone which they attacked him say he was pedo looking at the girls. This is self defense
@missdaydreamss
@missdaydreamss 5 месяцев назад
No, it's retaliation. He went after them. He hit the girl! It was not self defense, c'mon don't be ignorant
@discospiders
@discospiders 5 месяцев назад
I agree.
@johnsmith-he3rf
@johnsmith-he3rf 5 месяцев назад
At the end of the day it is once again down to a woman. Typical.
@ericdiaz6568
@ericdiaz6568 5 месяцев назад
He needs to go to Jail no question.
@Joe-qm4yv
@Joe-qm4yv 5 месяцев назад
@@missdaydreamssthe woman was in his face pushing him and the mob surrounded him . He had reason to fear for his life after being surrounded
@Threesuburbanchicks
@Threesuburbanchicks 5 месяцев назад
This man deserves to walk free! He protected himself against a hoard of wild animals!
@Vyyc-m9g
@Vyyc-m9g 5 месяцев назад
I would rather not have a serial murderer walk freely.
@Madenthewest
@Madenthewest 5 месяцев назад
@@Vyyc-m9gyou are lost
@Rancid_Ninja
@Rancid_Ninja 5 месяцев назад
Minnesota has duty to retreat laws, will be manslaughter or murder whichever the courts decide
@kommisar.
@kommisar. 5 месяцев назад
@@Vyyc-m9g Only one person died and it was out of self-defense. You think people have to let thugs beat them up? You must be a woke Democrat.
@TwinNthem
@TwinNthem 5 месяцев назад
What I was taught at a self defense class at a police station is if multiple people gang up on you it is legal to defend yourself and take lethal action if you feel it is life threatening
@keithskegwin
@keithskegwin 2 месяца назад
I bet the guy who got stabbed was grateful his friend kept filming and didn't help him.
@KEEPINGitREAL213
@KEEPINGitREAL213 5 месяцев назад
instead of calling 911.... Let's just record this crazy moment!
@Dragonfly_magictarot
@Dragonfly_magictarot 5 месяцев назад
Exactly wtf
@PizzaCologne3
@PizzaCologne3 5 месяцев назад
they want tik-tok clout, totally a brain disease cannot be cured.
@videowatcher314
@videowatcher314 5 месяцев назад
A cellphone recording is very similar to full body armor in some people's minds.
@mj2690
@mj2690 5 месяцев назад
Because instead of eye witness account they have actual visible proof that this loon should be thrown in jail for the rest of his pathetic life.
@coryb8432
@coryb8432 5 месяцев назад
I think he was also partly responsible for the way he was hooting and hollering instigating
@PatPauloMMA
@PatPauloMMA 5 месяцев назад
As a dad, I hope my kids can recognize dangerous situations getting out of hands. Always put a good distance between you and sketchy people. Sometimes you need to be the voice of reason with your friends too.
@NPCHSN
@NPCHSN 5 месяцев назад
The “kids” were the sketchy people. And, they should be charged with battery, as adults.
@tmzz3609
@tmzz3609 5 месяцев назад
​@@NPCHSNthe problem is the "kids" didn't actually touch Nicolae at all...... The just instigated it by taunting him trying to go viral on TikTok...... The only people to actually touch him were the 5 people in the Carson group. None of these people were kids...... They were all college aged young adults. 4 of the 5 people stabbed were in that group. Only the individual that died was from the group of "kids". The other 4 were Tony, Dante, AJ and Rhylee all being from the second group. The only one of those who didn't assault Nocialae(as far as I can tell) is Tony. AJ(guy who's guts were showing) was literally lunging at Nocialae as he was stabbed. He impaled himself just as much as he was stabbed. The "kids" in this situation never actually touched him in any way. They were laughing and egging it on until they ran away screaming
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 5 месяцев назад
The kids were sketchy. The man acted in self defense
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 5 месяцев назад
@@NPCHSNexactly!
@Shmyrk
@Shmyrk 5 месяцев назад
Amen
@mella7161
@mella7161 5 месяцев назад
So a bunch of underage kids are out in public drinking beers illegally and arguing with people and end up getting stabbed?
@jefferyharris4066
@jefferyharris4066 5 месяцев назад
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@robinchemin3631
@robinchemin3631 5 месяцев назад
Yep
@llg3pe
@llg3pe 5 месяцев назад
Yep! Those violent teenagers f’ed around and found out. The man defended himself
@GodsChosenMekAmoR
@GodsChosenMekAmoR 5 месяцев назад
SMH. That’s what it seems like.
@TheBaldingHillbilly
@TheBaldingHillbilly 5 месяцев назад
@@llg3pehe lunged for an unarmed girl tho bro like ??
@Snazzybeat1
@Snazzybeat1 4 месяца назад
how fucked up all of this being filmed instead of helping severely wounded people
@volbrenYT
@volbrenYT 5 месяцев назад
So a 17 year old boy, 24 year old woman and 2 guys aged 20 and 22 attacked a 52 year old man, hitting him in the head after knocking him down into the water and circling him to push him back down… for what, trying to find his phone he lost in the river? After watching the video I’m shocked they think they’ll convict this guy for intentional and first degree homicides.
@JonnyMudMower
@JonnyMudMower 5 месяцев назад
It was self defence for sure I can’t believe they are blaming this guy.
@rpmfreak9150
@rpmfreak9150 5 месяцев назад
Who invaded who's personal space?
@jimdandy8119
@jimdandy8119 5 месяцев назад
​@@JonnyMudMowerIt was a first. If he'd have stopped and walked away instead of going on a knife rampage stabbing everyone in sight who weren't even touching him, like that girl, then it would be. He'll go to prison because of this, you'd better believe it. That's part of "self defense" is you have to be trying to get away. He wasn't. He was trying to stab everyone he could see.
@JonnyMudMower
@JonnyMudMower 5 месяцев назад
@@rpmfreak9150 they circled him and basically jumped the old guy .
@dorothybranch203
@dorothybranch203 5 месяцев назад
So.e teenagers beat a 70 year old man to death not to long ago. He had to defend himself.
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