Tons of reviews on RU-vid for AVP, but yours is the one I was waiting for. As always - brutally honest and fair. You're the best David.. thanks. Saved me $4K lol
You can mirror the vision pro to your Mac. I do it all the time, if your mac has airplay enabled it should appear in the screen mirroring list on Vision Pro
Honestly, I don’t find the battery piece to be that much of an inconvenience. Apple advertise this device as something you should be using in your home. I use the USB-C bank from my Nintendo switch to plug into the battery USB-C of the Vision Pro the entire time I use it. I haven’t had any issues. It is not ideal for the way it is constructed to have two cables at all times, but if you are sitting on your couch, or laying back, it’s not a problem.
I agree with your assessment of cable management. But I also don’t think this is really a walking around device in its current form. Seems more like a couch, plane, and work from home or at desk device.
I’ve mirrored it to my MacBook Pro during architectural walk-through demos to my clients several times already in the past week. It’s sad that he really whiffed on that point. I hope he corrects it because it’s not good to have incorrect information put out there.
One thing you may wish to clarify. You don't need an Apple TV to share your screen, you just need something that supports airplay. I was sharing it on my samsung tv the other night.
I love your videos - I've watched you for years - very helpful. I wish you'd spent some time focusing your magnificent mind on the possible potential of this device, rather than a deep dive into the problems of the product. Cheers.
I appreciate the candid review David. Your Cons use cases were exactly how I had hoped to use it. Without multi-monitor simulations, a decent keyboard and flawless execution (not to mention comfort) I couldn’t imagine it replacing anything else I use. The use cases you mentioned at the opening of your video seem like things I’d never do. It’s a bit geeky to walk around your home wearing a headset and seeing different screens in different rooms. If Big Bang Theory was still on I could see this being a running gag throughout several episodes. One thing about sharing it with others… since it has been custom fit to your face shape and size, how could it possibly fit spouses, children and others well? After seeing the order process I never expected that it would be a good experience for them. Did you?
How does it work if the wearer does not have stereo vision? I am one of the millions? of people who has had cataract surgery and elected to implant Light Adjustable Lenses in both eyes. One eye is “tuned” to near sight and the other to far sight and my brain sort of figures out which to favor based on what I’m looking at. Does my brain “figure it out” when I’m wearing Vision Pro, or do I need lenses to correct each eye?
Interesting product. Maybe a soft foam could be glued to the nose bridge on the vision pro. For the money, more careful thought should have been given to fix the cons.
Given all the negatives you mention which I am sure will slowly be approved on..... What price do you think this device needs to be today to buy it and make it fly off shelves?
If I were Tim Cook, I'd aim to get it to $1500. Meta Quest Pro is $900, and Meta's Achilles heel is privacy. I think Apple could convince people to spend that much if they can guarantee to protect people's privacy. On the other hand, I don't think the public realizes the risk of giving eye-tracking abilities to a nefarious company like Meta (who I don't trust for 💩)
I didn’t have any problems finding one just this past Friday. I went in for a demo at a local Apple store in Orange County California. There were at least one of each of the three bottles available to purchase. In terms of value proposition, and what the true price point should be, that is definitely consumer driven. This first generation is the first Apple product to be a “pro“ version at launch. Like the iPhone series that we currently have or have had over the last 5+ years, I would imagine the go forward strategy would to be a line that consisted of a entry-level light model, a base model, and the pro model. The light model I would imagine would start around $2000. There’s always going to be a premium for Apple products. That’s just the way it always will be. @@CarloGrams
I worked at Apple when they launched their laser printer. People asked the same then ‘who’s it for’, what’s the point of it? That’s was after the launch of Lisa when the questions were even more banal
Wow- if you worked for apple way back then surely you would agree that Steve Jobs wouldn’t have agreed this is ready for public yet - there’s just way way way way way too many things that need to be refined - remember these days most people have a smartphone device and tremendous capability - having a device like this that lasts 2 hours battery life with a cable and battery pack attached for 3500 dollars - sorry mate its just not good enough for 2024 from the biggest consumer tec business in the world. Not even close.
Great review as always. I agree, a couple versions down the road “maybe”. It looks like it might end up on the shelf collecting dust, at least the first version.
$350 a month for a year is a new car payment. But hey they are awesome ! It probably cost them 50$ to make but it’s the technology we’re paying for but I still feel it’s too pricey almost 4 grand I’ll wait a year or 2 for the price to go half down or less
Do you ever walk down the street holding your iPad and have the thought, "man, I wish I could jump into this iPad!"? Good, me neither. No one has. No one ever will
you are the best!! i agree with you. i have several other friends that bought it... i am just not that ready to payout that kind of $$. Thank you, buddy!!
Apologies, but until technology advances to the point where we have a holodeck similar to what's seen in Star Trek, I'll remain underwhelmed by any gadget that requires wearing on the head.
@@TechTalkAmerica I am truly on the fence myself. I bought with the intent of it being a 14 day trial. I am having a torrid love affair with it lol it is extremely fun and impressive beyond belief in many ways. In other ways, it is just frustrating as all hell. I think that the day I have to make the decision I am going to make a pros and cons list. Long game, though, we know that version two, three, etc. will all be significant improvements. However, I am hopeful that the OS updates and developers continue to build this up to make it much more viable as a truly spatial computing option, as well as a premium entertainment piece. Because I would really love to use this as the biggest 3-D TV screen you can use while being able to answer email, create a PowerPoint and perform other work related tasks.
What a great review David! You've convinced me.....I'm going to wait for future generations of VisionPro. Maybe I'll see you in Provincetown this summer. Thanks again.
Well, I know pros and cons are subjective, but I think you overdramatized some of its shortcomings. And actually had some incorrect information that I don’t think you vetted properly. I know you didn’t intentionally mean to be overly negative, but I think in this case it’s probably not a fair review.
It’s a realistic review of the product - how that translates to ‘ you intentionally didn’t mean to be overtly negative’ is deluded - this product is heading for the failure bin - 3500 dollars for very very questionable / improved benefits over existing tech devices - maybe instead of coming out with BS like its not a fair review you could care to make your own video showing how amazing you think the product is - id suggest listing about 3500 reasons why people should consider forking out to actually BUY one. Delusional.
I was think about the power of this M2 /R1 chips , and i was scared about performance in tadk about video efiting ,3d rendering and cpu/gpu consumig task, and its logicall, Rendering yuor desktop , yuor windows , yuor app in real time, with all that traking , and vr/ar enviroment is super cpu/gpu consuming , i saw a video showing about 90÷ cpu usage ALlL the Time, that dont give too much room for mediumor big files
They seem to be marketing it as it's the first of its kind. Calling it spacial computing does not make it new. It's a really nice MR headset, that's over priced. It's a great headset but all of the lying about the, "magic" is unnecessary . @@TechTalkAmerica
It was good to try it. The entire process to prepare to try the device was great. The only question I have is the marketing of the headset. Why did Apple decide to lie? It's a great MR headset. It's a quality of life upgrade in MR but, Apple did not invent MR. Their choice to change the names of things, for example calling it spatial computing rather than MR, why? The sales pitch in the store is that the headset is, "magic" It's not magic. It's a nice MR headset that is too expensive with very little MR content. That's it! @@TechTalkAmerica
Great look at the Vision Pro from your perspective. Also, nice point about the manual; this from the company that honors innovation being climate conscious? Come on, Apple. Why did I always think you were married to a woman? Maybe I wasn't paying attention. Anyway, as a son with a dad in the community, I Proudly salute you! 🫡
The best reasons to buy AVP are: 1) To show you can, 2) To be on the bleeding edge of tech, 3) To experience immersive video, 4) To hang with the AVP cognoscenti. For some people, the price isn't that outlandish.
Only 30 mins before feeling pain using this is so wild to me because it costs so much. I just dont get how they didn't realize how much that basically defeats the whole purpose of a "wearable", you want people to be able to wear it 😅 meanwhile I'm over here working out, watching videos, and playing games for hours on the Quest 3. Plus, you forgot to mention it doesn't support PCVR.
I don’t think you’re giving this product a chance. I’ve seen a few demonstrations on RU-vid showcasing the capabilities and hidden secrets of the Vision Pro and I’m impressed. In time there will be be updates and apps made specifically for the Vision Pro. As far as the price, every new piece of technology is always expensive. I paid $2000 for my firs Motorola cell phone back in 1988 and it’s sole function was phone calls and I was lucky if the battery lasted half a day. $2000 in 1988 is equivalent to $5000 today. People are watching RU-vid channels that are posting videos about Vision Pro and I’m sure you’ll be posting more as they release new apps and updates. I personally don’t have one but I hear that you can watch a movie or play a game, like you’re watching on an 85” screen. Have you seen the price of a Premium 85” OLED TV or the 27” Apple Studio Display?
I believe David did an outstanding job, particularly in omitting aspects that I would have included, especially considerations for those prone to motion sickness. However, it's evident that this product still has significant strides to make before it garners widespread consumer adoption.
I bought my first mac in 1988 for $3500 which is $8K today for about $0.25 worth of computing power. The difference is I knew exactly what value I was paying for -- I could do overtime at home, so the Mac paid for itself. The first VCRs cost $700 but again, movies at home! The value was not a hidden secret. I think this product is for people who if they dropped a hundred dollar bill on the ground, wouldn't bother to bend over to pick it up.
20 bucks for a monthly subscription to a Puzzle app? LOL - they must really know their users, I mean - if you spend 3500$ on an Vision Pro, well - then they might as well milk you for all you got like Apple does.
A couple of takeaways for people who are in the market for this: 1. The eye tracking is too good. That is actually a bad thing. Your eyes are always constantly moving around. You want to use your eyes in collaboration with the pinching technique in order to grab some thing, make something larger, or just simply say press play on a video. So many times I will be looking directly at a button or a letter to type, and there will be a flutter affect where I can’t select the correct button. 2. Wearing this at night is basically worthless. I want to lay in bed while my wife is sleeping and watch clips or a movie. It is impossible to do so as this is not a true virtual reality device, but as Apple says a special computing device. What that means is that in low light or dark light situation, you will be alerted by the Vision Pro telling you that you are unable to use the Vision Pro. 3. Using multiple applications at once causes one or sometimes all of them to stop responding. Hopefully this is addressed in a OS update, but in the current state, I am scrolling through Safari and have an alert and Outlook pop up, sometimes I have to close all apps in order to just do one thing. 4. the primary strap for the back of your head is basically worthless. It is extremely uncomfortable and makes all of the weight of the device very noticeable on the front of your face. The strap with a headrest on it makes the device much more we distributed. 5. You cannot make regular phone calls using this device. It is limited to just FaceTime which is basically the strangest avatar persona you can use to scare friends and family. It would be incredibly helpful to be able to use this as an actual phone machine. 6. Highlighting and copying text can be very frustrating. You select a word, and if it is highlighted in blue with the two. to click and drag, I find it very difficult or or nearly impossible to unselect that text that I had just highlighted.
For 4,000 dollars I would expect almost perfection. I am not really clear what problem this product solves. Now instead of using an iPhone which can fit in your pocket or a lightweight MacBook that’s somewhat easy to carry around you have these googles which deforms your face and a battery to get tangled up with.
A follow up: Just this morning, it was reported that many people are returning the product because it is too heavy and very uncomfortable. Apple Vision Pro may be gone faster than I imagined.
