That’s great. What did you use it for on the flight? And did you feel a little weird? Unfortunately I have no flights planned :) But I look forward to using it on one.
@@fatoldclimber I actually had one of the cabin crew chat with me for 10 minutes about it he was super curious as he hadn’t seen one in the wild before. I downloaded a load of Apple TV, Disney + content but also some of the less vigorous games like chess and it really did help the flight go quicker. The virtual environment really did make me forget I was on a plane
UK AVP owner and all i can say is this device is magical, nothing on the market even comes close. The intial review of many of the big RU-vidrs were blown out of proportion like the weight etc..everyone is different of course but my opinion apple have built a awesome device. My favorite things are spacial videos and 3d, but pretty much everything about it is good. Great video though 👏🏾
Thanks. I get pissed off with the tech RU-vidrs as some of them like to say stuff that will piss people off and get views :) and yes, my favourite things too.
Excellent down-to-earth and real-world demo and review of the Vision Pro for us mere mortals. A nice departure from the slick Apple demos. Thx from a U.S. viewer!
Thanks for your review Gordon, really enjoyed it. As a fellow Scot I appreciate your dry sense of humour! I was at the Braehead Apple store on Sunday for my demo and it was really amazing! I picked a good time because they were running a bit behind schedule and I basically got a 50 minute demo instead of a 30 minute demo because the store was closing and they didn’t have time for another round of demos. I would have loved to see your reaction to the immersive videos, especially the high wire act and various sports clips. I did my best not to react to any “jump scares” but one basketball made me flinch slightly which the Apple staffer noticed and chuckled at! On extra demo I got was for the Keynote app where I got to stand in the Steve Jobs theatre with the audience in front of me and my presentation content on the screen behind me. I can honestly imagine this would be an amazing tool to practice presentations on. I laughed out loud when you said “f**k it’s in the room” during the dinosaur demo. During my demo in the apple store I could swear I could feel the butterfly sitting on my finger. Anyway, I’m still on the fence whether to buy an AVP or not. I absolutely WANT one and I could buy one through my business. I’m a registered iOS developer and web application developer so am tempted to get one to help inspire ideas for new apps I could create. I would also love to be able to unshackle myself from my desk and dual 5K displays, and be able to roam around the house or garden while still being able to get work done. I just don’t know if the technology is at that stage yet, and if not, will it be able to be brought to the AVP1 via a software update or will it require a hardware revolution to AVP2 or 3? But I have to say, given that my two 5K displays are now nearly 8 years old, if I had to replace them with two new Apple Studio displays at £1500 each, I’d be very tempted to get an AVP instead. On a side note, I love hearing from all the nay sayers who are telling you it’ll be gathering dust on the shelf in 3 months etc. I suspect a lot of that negativity is either coming from employees of Meta and other VR companies who realise they face an existential threat from the AVP, or it’s fans of such companies/products, or it’s just plain old envy. People have such short memories and forget all the ridicule that the iPhone took when it was launched, most famously by Steve Balmer of Microsoft. It didn’t have a keyboard, it was too expensive, heck it didn’t even do cut and paste. And yet it became the most successful product of all time. AirPods were ridiculed for looking “weird” without wires and now wired headphones look weird. Apple Watch was a flop and then it wasn’t. The list goes on…. It’s crystal clear to me that this product will not be abandoned by Apple because they have already invested about 10 years in developing the AR, Apple Silicon and other technologies which have allowed this product to be brought to market. That said, this is clearly a version 1 product, and probably aimed more at developers and content creators to try to kick start the ecosystem which will make the product much more attractive to the mainstream users. It’s very much a chicken and egg situation, and some might say that if Steve Jobs were still alive, he might have let the product bake for another year or two. But at the same time, without content and innovative apps, this product will only ever be a series of cool demos, so I think it’s absolutely the right decision to launch it now. My next step is to get my wife into the Apple store to do a demo and see if she “gets it” the way I did. That might open the door to a purchase, or at least a 14 day extended demo where I can satisfy myself as to whether I can justify it as a business purchase or not. Unfortunately, even if I get the green light from my wife, it’ll probably end up costing me another £4k on something she wants too!
Wow. I’m knackered after reading all that 😂. Thanks for the comment though. I agree with everything you’re saying. I do think we aren’t even scratching the surface with application yet. I do 3D modelling. And if I could get feedback from clients reviewing a model, in VR, together, it would be a game changer. The immersive stuff from Apple is great. I look forward to more of that. There’s an interesting ‘social’ app (can’t remember the name right now) but you meet on your own little room. It will be much better that stuff people already do on VR. A lot of people are going to get less isolated, rather than more.
Great video and the intro made me laugh, as I can relate entirely. Just a quick heads up. On the external box, unboxing part, you could make out your address on the label. Perhaps, blur that out, or do what I do and spray alcohol on the labels, which renders them blank.
The image quality, the footage and editing is on point!!! I got mine yesterday, I’m quite impressed with the OLED 4K displays and the eye tracking that feels like magic. The immersiveness feels very real, The UI feels aesthetically pleasing and light to the eye. 3D and Immervise Movies are WOW! However, I’m struggling to find a real use for it, I don’t want to pay £3799 for consuming content in VR and having a floating monitor. Therefore I'll be probably returning it in a few days.
And I tried one today and its got a really good screen but the immersive video they showed me at the end of the demo looks like the 8k 180 videos watch on RU-vid on my Quest 3 and for that price and it does even feature webxr which is crucial for it as the Quest Web browser allows you to play 1000s and games and apps straight off of the browser with no download needed and it's no longer the headset with the highest screen now that they have the playfordream mr headset which makes this look like rubbish and it's under 2k In price and features 32mp cameras for pass through
@@jdarg4163 I have quest 2&3 but it doesnt really compare to the AVP and i dont play games..all the updates that have hit the quest lately are pushing it in the direction of the AVP, but its would require a totally new device to reach the build quality.
@@fatoldclimber I can buy one and return it within 14 days if I don't like it which I think will give me more of a chance to find uses for it - Demonstration's aren't really long enough for me.
@@fatoldclimber unbelievable experience yes, I really do want one but that price is just a no go for me. I have however managed to grab a quest 3 for around £300 yesterday and being a gamer hope it fills the need until a more affordable Vision Pro comes to market
@Captain-Chats I wouldn’t even think twice about going the ‘quest 3’ route if it was games I was into. At the very most the AVP will have little games that will be diversions, I think.
@@fatoldclimber yea the quest being a cheaper route into this new tech for a beginner and the fact I can hook it up to my pc was the right way to go for now. However as soon as there’s a cheaper AVP I’ll be buying it, It’s a shame because that price really is the only thing stopping me and no doubt others grabbing one.
@@Captain-Chats Yeh, the price is aimed at business and (more importantly) developers. We need much more content for it before it a lot of people will be interested. And as the tech improves there will be cheaper versions, or the price will go down (I’m guessing).
I got mine day 1 in Canada for the same reason as you so we’ve had them the same amount of time. I agree completely with your final thoughts. I have both a Quest 2 and Quest 3 and I’ve been using them 2-4 hours a day, I’ve tried to use them for productivity and watching movies but couldn’t, it can superficially do the same things but it doesn’t work practically. The screen quality is night and day between the two. I tried the AVP initially with the stock strap and for me it was actually way more comfortable than I expected from watching all the reviews. It’s way more comfortable than the stock strap and facial interfaces on the Quest. I had purchased the Annapro Pressure-Reducing Comfort head strap and with that on it’s more comfortable (for me) than the Quest 3 with the BoboVR halo strap. I’m just working on getting the distance from eyes dialed in. I recognize that this initial product isn’t for the mass market but I believe the foundation they’ve laid down will be. I’m loving it so far and don’t regret the purchase. I’ll probably keep the Quest 3 for gaming but I think it will be gathering dust.
Thanks for the detailed comment. Glad to hear from a Quest 3 owner. I think it’s clear they are not the same :). I haven’t heard of the strap you mention. But I’m going into Apple Store on Thursday to get a proper fitting as I suspect my visor is the wrong size.
Superb review 👍 , it will be interesting to see how much you use the Vision Pro instead of your usual media devices to communicate and watch movies / tv etc over the next few months
Thanks. And yes, that’ll be the test for me. To be honest, the cinema mode in Apple TV+ is outstanding. Might upload a short demo of that as it can record while playing a trailer
Nice review. I keep changing my mind about getting one. Certainly not cheap. I may go for a test drive in the Edinburgh store. The thing that interests me the most is watching content. What’s it like watching movies? I have an 85” TV which I love 😊
Delighted to hear you’re happy with it! Looking forward to seeing all the specialised apps that will be developed for it in due course and what Apple opt to create in terms of a mass-market consumer product. I wonder how much they’ll be willing to compromise on to achieve their price goal. Thanks for making such a down to earth and realistic video, is often difficult to get a real impression from the others, particularly those in the states. Recognised the Sports Plaza a mile off (just back myself from Whinfell last Friday haha) - hope your daughter had a great time! I’ll need to book in for a demo at the Apple Store on Princes St when I’m in the office next week. Look forward to hopefully seeing more content in the near future :)
Thanks. My channel is actually about climing, but I couldn't resist posting about this device. I've actually just posted another video. A short demo of how incredible the Cinemamode looks in Apple TV app. it's here if you want to see it... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3E4jfHv_MIw.html and yes, book a demo for sure,
Don't Pet The Dinosaur! I had my first experience on the AVP yesterday and it totally took my breath away...every 5 secs. Amazing and oftentimes "lost for words" experience. Probably Apple's best digital device ever!
Yeh, I agree. It’s certainly the first ever device I’ve seen that the hype, and videos I see about it are not as good as the actual experience. I see great things ahead.
Great video. Level headed and factual. This is definitely the future. Mass adoption will come when common businesses all offer a spatial computing option. Imagine banking spatial apps, there’s a real teller in a call center but you are in the bank with your persona talking to her “face to face”. Apple is working with major companies now from Gucci to Canon. In a couple of years thousands of companies will have apps for users better than the current web 2D experience.
@@sharonb.9128 sorry to disagree but 3d movies at home never took off because most people don’t like wearing clunky eyewear, let alone sitting there with headsets on all day. Apple’s products will never go down in price. 5 years ago a top of the range MacBook was £2500, now it £7000. So will families sit there during movie night with 4 or 5 sets of headsets each costing several thousand?
My point isn’t that Apples Top of the line device will ever come down in price. It’s that this will drive the industry to build on the tech and that will drive things.
I think it will definitely get smaller. Perhaps it’ll become more separate, not sure. to be honest, the way the sound works, could easily become something that’s just part of sturdy glasses. It’ll be the pass through that will be difficult without actual screen. But 10-15 years ago, this thing was total science fiction, so who knows. My point, is this will drive the kind of innovation needed to make it happen.
@@fatoldclimber Unfortunately I think they may have let themselves down there. I think they assumed that 3rd party developers would make everything but I’m not sure that’s going to happen. I think they may need to invest a few billion in creating interesting apps.
@@lamsmiley1944 I’m fairly sure it will happen. They had the same problem when the iPhone was introduced. In fact there were far fewer apps in the App Store when that was introduced.
I‘m definitely going to order the 1TB Vision Pro. It is not more expensive than my Apple ][ (with 48 KB RAM and two 5.25 inch Floppy Disk drives) had been, when I bought it in 1982. And at my age I propably don‘t have the luxury to wait for a cheaper version. Unfortunately, I have to wait until 1 August for an appointment with my ophthalmologist to get a prescription for the glasses inserts. But I think it‘s worth the wait. By the way, have you tested the Apple TV app? Is it possible to use more than one iTunes account with it, like it is on the Apple TV 4K? I use an US, a Canadian and a German account with that Little box, because some films and TV programs are only available in one store and not the other. Thank you so much for this video. Please, keep on with it.
Yeh. Part of my thinking is it’s only expensive by today’s standards :). I remember spending over 5 grand on a 42 inch plasma TV back in the day. If you have the money, get it now. It’s incredible. Regarding your question, I have no idea, sorry. I only use Apple TV app with my single account, sorry.
Wow, so cool Gordon! As much of a technofile I am myself (bought a new iPad Pro with Apple Pencil Pro last month), early adopting this one is quite pricey. But still, would love to try this one out. Very curious to try out the gestures and if it feels theatre-like when you watch a movie and how well it interacts with other Apple devices as well! Cool review and enjoy this piece of amazing tech!
Thanks. It’s weird how bad the screen recordings look compared to the actual experience. You should book a demo at Apple. The gestures are so simple. A lot of the reviews I’ve seen have folk waving their hands all over the place. Not needed. Your hand can just be low down. VisionOS2 has some cool changes. Looking forward to that. I’ve just been trying watching movies ‘in a theatre’ and it’s amazing. It’s possible to make the screen so big it’s too big :) And so far, it’s playing nice with my phone and iPad. I don’t have a mac.
@@fatoldclimber yeah, I also seen reviews that explain how to use the gestures where your hand is resting. And I’ve seen the new functions in the latest Keynote as well! Oh, and now I have an extra reason to watch your channel! Bouldering & technology 💪
@@RonWienand So far I’m loving it for ‘non work’ reasons. Working on finding work reasons to have it. Sitting working in the garden with a multi screen pc that no one can see is one of them :) What did you think when you had the demo?
Hi. Great video and insight into the initial process. I’m seriously considering one and wondered now you’ve had it a few days, how are you finding it. Do you think it will just become a novelty item or part of your everyday work life? It’s a big investment to potentially live in a cupboard after a few weeks.
Thanks. I totally agree. I’ve been using it every day to do some of my daily work. Especially fun sitting in the garden, with 4/5 screens :). I’m watching some content on it, but really hoping for some other apps, and some improvements with VisionOS 2.
@@fatoldclimber good to know. Be interested if you did a video when vision os 2 is released. I’m a serial early adopter and always run the developer betas because I just can’t wait 😂
@@stuwilliams Yeh, I’ll definitely be doing so 1 month in (which it might VisonOS 2 might be out by). I picked up a track pad. The eye tracking is flawless and works a treat with apps optimised for VisionOS, but I use some which are iPad apps (Obsidian for example) and it’s a bit hit and miss. Track pad should solve the issues. I worked from 8 till 2 on it, uninterrupted yesterday, and it was working well. Hoping form some improvements to the OS thought.
@@stuwilliams Oh, and I’d have already updated to the visionOS2 Beta, but there’s no way to roll it back, without buying the developer connector. I’ll leave to wait till it comes out properly
There are definitely positives to being a sad git living alone😂 What a fabulous new gadget that nobody is telling you you are not allowed to have! I did need to look up the word 'wazoo' as in 'cameras coming out of the...'😂 Enjoy!
It would be great if you had the experience with a quest 3, because saying it's amazing doesn't tell us how much better is it in comparison. I have a quest 3 and everything about it is amazing. Obviously nobody will buy this when you could buy a used car at that price, but still as a tech enthusiast it's always amazing to experience these things. I very interested to try it on a apple shop, but I do not even consider buying it, or test it for a month.
You’re right. There are some very vocal questions 3 people saying it’s just as good (not having tried the AVP I suspect). I’ve seen comparison reviews, and there is someone who commented on here who has both, and confirms the experience is so much better on AVP. I’d really recommend getting a demo as a tech enthusiast, even if you have no plans to buy. Also, I really think where this will succeed is in business buying them for senior managers to do remote working and meet (once persona is better) in a far more realistic way. This is the AVP equivalent of the first iPhone. Everyone said to expensive, no-one will buy. Fast forward to 17? Years later and every phone is based on that design. It’s an exciting time :)
Oh and if you find that comment from the guy with both, you could ask him to quantify the difference. I dare say that whatever the difference is, it won’t justify the price difference.
I have both and AVP is far ahead of Quest 3. It’s hard to describe unless you have both. Everytime I put back my Quest 3 it reminds me of how unreal Vision Pro is. I guess the price difference does not lie.
@@k.vn.k I’m not trying to sell anyone on the AVP, but this matches what I’ve heard other people say. I think the issue is some people cannot separate out the price difference when they are comparing.
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@@fatoldclimber nobody in their right mind would pay that amount of money for the vision pro. That's stupid. My advice is: test it in an Apple store so you know how cool is it. Then keep living your life normally. All you need is to know how is it, and that is about it. Use that money in something that will make a difference in your life, not in some tech item that cost two or more monthly wages, that will be out of date in one or two years
All I have to say is you can almost get the whole vision pro menu and everything from a app called spatial app on the Quest 3 and now they have the v67 update don't be fooled the Quest does way more than this headset can e er do as this does not feature webxr which is the Internet browser standard amd it allows you to play 1000s of games and Apps with absolutely no download needed just straight into the experience and after using it today I am even more happy with my Quest 3 and my Playstation VR2 is on another level of immersion than any other headset as it has eye tracking headset rumble the only thing I really really like on the Vision Pro is the screen because it reminds me of the PSVR2 screen but just with a higher resolution but Apple screen is a Sony screen so do I really need it
I'm struck by 2 things... 1. Why is RU-vid "hiding" this video from me? I can see the previous video about sit-starts, but neither of the AVP videos show in my subscription feed.... 2. While I can understand how the AVP is a nice piece of tech... I'm really interested in seeing a follow-up video in 3 months (or even a year) from now. Did you wind up using it a lot? How did it get used? What applications were built for it? etc. I've been following VR for a while and own a couple headsets.... but my main use has been games. I'd love to see more use cases and see if/when/how Apple helps move the tech forward.
Well, I can answer your question. Because the Vision Pro is technology, and my channel is about climbing, when I posted the video I set it to not announce to subscribers. It’s kind of the done thing when you’re posting something that’s not caught to the channels content. Regarding the second thing, I do plan to use it as much as possible and will publish something into three months as an update. Just so that you know. I’m replying to this comment on the Apple Vision Pro :-)
@@royetter1777 Thanks. I’m in two minds about what to do with non-climbing videos. I’ve had a lot of people subscribe from this, and other tech videos I’ve done. Maybe I just publish to subscribers, and accept not everyone will like everything I publish.
I love how Apple spin something into like its something they made and came up with and is revolutionary 🤣 Its just a Vr headset with mixed reality capabilities. A highly overpriced one at that
I'm not trying to convince you to get one, but there are plenty of things about this that make it more than 'just a VR headset'. It's ok if you don't agree :)
Tell me how clear it actually is when looking through, is there pixelation or is it basically like looking through glasses with very minimal loss of quality?
If you switch between AVP on and off you can see it’s not superb. But when you’re using it you don’t really notice. It also is affected by how bright the conditions are. I’m not really bothered by this as most of the time I expect to be looking at something floating in front of me, rather than the real world :) I’d book a demo with Apple if you have concerns though. Or buy it and if you don’t like it try it.
@@LukeYMedia True. The problem is, I am never really paying attention to the ‘real’ world when I’m using it. As I look at this RU-vid window, it could not be any sharpers. But when I look at my room, it is not. Thing is, I’m not wanting to look at my room 🤣
WOW look amazing and im just sub you as im want one so im need save up badly for it LOL so let me know when next video of Apple Vision Pro update Thanks Robert from Edinburgh
Thanks. Trust me, if you think it looks good from this video, the real thing will blow your mind. Do yourself a favour and book a demo. It’s an incredible experience.
I did. I use it every morning (at least) to do my morning work admin, and it is defiantly more productive than doing it how I used to. Also, watch some content on it. Still waiting on some changes that will happen in OS2 which should improve the experience and for some better apps.
Am I going to spend £3.5k on this when I can get a quest 3 for a fraction of the price that can almost do most things just as good and more besides . I mean it doesn’t even look that advanced but just like an cheap plasticky pair of goggles with a cheap strap attached to it which I can imagine getting dirty quit quickly . No I’ll buy a quest 3 and with leftover I can buy decent used 2nd hand car with the money lol
I don’t think it will take off! Way too expensive to be viral and people will feel silly with the goggles on in the same way as people felt silly with the 3D glasses when they were trying to flog us 3D TVs a couple of years back!
It won’t be a success because of 3D movies, although 3D movies look better ok this than any other way I’ve seen them. It’ll be a success because of the virtual collaboration it’ll bring I think. And it won’t be consumers that buy it, it’ll be business: not too expensive to them. But, its existence will change things. It has already driven quest 3 sales.
Absolutely amazing, however this is an early adopters device…. Not ready for the mainstream… once the 3rd or 4th gen comes out and lower price then it will change everything
@@Webzterr I feel sure that Apple have put enough development into this that they can support it for another couple of generations before calling it a flop. I could be wrong obviously.
@@firstnamelastname2971 Just checked and the standard only has up to 1080P, I was watching on 4K on my TV from the beginning which is why I have Premium.
Haha, he’s not pretending to be. It’s ’one of’ the first Vision Pros in the UK, like I said, because I preordered and got delivered on first day it was available in the UK. There were a few people who bought in the States for sure. Certainly not meant to be click bait.
