Apple vs Qualcomm vs Intel vs AMD - Best 2024 Laptop CHIP?!

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Computex 2024 is OVER and we now know the entire list of new CHIPS for 2024! We have the M4 from Apple, the Snapdragon X Elite from Qualcomm, the Lunar Lake chip from Intel & the Ryzen HX 370 from AMD. But which one is the BEST chip?
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@MaxTechOfficial 13 дней назад

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@cameraprepper7938 12 дней назад

Apple feel snappy, no My MacBook Air M1 16 GB often feels SLOWER than my old Lenovo laptop !!! So what I hear you are saying is that AMD, Intel, Qualcomm and Apple will be very close at the end of this year, Intel and Apple are no-upgradeable, are AMD and Qualcomm upgradeable ? What will the price/performance be for the four ? I guess that Apple will be the most expensive !

@Matlockization 11 дней назад

The problem with Apple is that there are only a handful of apps & games that can work on the ARM platform when compared to AMD, Intel & Nvidia. And Apple's superiority over AI has narrowed, if not been surpassed by their competition in 2024 and going forward it's only going to get a lot harder for Apple to maintain a lead if any. However, we all benefit from this competition.

@lakeline6317 11 дней назад

In late 2020 Apple ignited the competition with the M1, now almost 4 years later we have 4 great chips to choose from. This is why competition always helps the consumer.

@CCherriosful 11 дней назад

Just shut the hell up, because this example of “competition helps the consumer” isn’t actually helping anyone. They’re making these technologies to further consolidate user data and strong arm you into paying more money over time because it’ll be harder to actually repair any of these newer machines coming out with these groundbreaking chipsets. So no it isn’t helping the consumer, but if that’s the narrative you want to portray to feel positive about corporations ran by people you have no clue about. Then do that Lake.

@JamesButcher 10 дней назад

agreed get 'modern' options if you're still not ready to move over to ARM64

@amirtorhan2762 6 дней назад

Apple is still kind of in a league of their own, let's be honest. The only one that can somewhat compete would be Elite X

@FronosElectronics 5 дней назад

The issue with apple is that its apple

@DragonOfTheMortalKombat День назад

@@amirtorhan2762 lol no, AMD already competes well with apple in terms of both battery life and performance. While not sacrificing upgreadeable RAM or SSDs. Wake up, Macs are no longer gaining market share like they used to.

@DarkPa1adin 12 дней назад

I like this manner of Vadim, not hyped, just natural

@nintendork07 12 дней назад

I'm just happy there's options and competition all throughout the laptop space.

@skyak4493 12 дней назад

Lots of fine options but my hope is that Apple will finally offer 16G standard memory and make 32G reasonably priced.

@TechOverwrite 12 дней назад

Agreed, it's a much happier position than a decade ago when it was Intel galore 😕

@PlanetFrosty 12 дней назад

Linux on M4 and on iPad would be killer as well as Mac

@Aladinzc 12 дней назад

It seems Qualcomm will face steep battle as imperium strikes back :😅

@PixelatedWolf2077 День назад

What's ironic though is unlike Apple, Intel offers 16 gigs standard. Granted it only ends at 32 gigs this time.@@TechOverwrite

@Betancourtdm 12 дней назад

Keep in mind Intel isn’t abandoning upgradable memory. As of now, the integration is just for Lunar lake. Arrow lake (desktop) due later this year will utilize CAMM-2 memory. I believe the processor will still have integrated memory such as Lunar Lake as well… so the big difference is that it will not be “unified”

@ahaimes6320 11 дней назад

It is likely that all future ultrabook chips will have soldered RAM, and CAMM2 will be only for desktop, gaming, and pro machines due to the expense and the need for a separate board (space and weight). Also, the problem with CAMM2 is that if you buy a machine with 16GB and upgrade to 32GB, you will have to buy a new 32GB board. The 16GB board becomes worthless e-waste, and the 32GB board currently costs $279 (64GB DIMM costs $150). 95% of users will not care about it being modular, especially as it is currently of poor value. The main advantage is that we can get the fastest RAM in these performance machines rather than the current limitations--like no LPDDR5X.

@ai-Able 12 дней назад

It's interesting that it took Intel 4 years to recognise their failures.

@ghost-user559 12 дней назад

Not 4 years to recognize, 4 years to pivot. Especially when chips like this are generally developed for a decade, this was a last ditch rush job to catch up

@dannyhe4175 12 дней назад

It is institutional inertia, people running the BU don’t want to disrupt their existing book of business, until it is too late. That is how lot of great tech companies end up in history’s dust bin.

@akyhne 12 дней назад

It takes 3-5 years to develop a CPU, so...

@Jackyskan 12 дней назад

Apple spend 10 years for developing M1 .... do you know who are the top development leader at qualcomm x elite ? Some former top engineers, manager and so on from apple... Intel will bankrupt in maybe 10 years, like kodak because they are unable to improve and innovate, they just follow with 4 years delays and try to copy the m1 chip ... and still with x86

@adamkee97 12 дней назад

They have realised their mistake many years ago, but they couldn't change everything overnight.

@chromefuture5561 11 дней назад

In my opinion it doesn’t matter who is making the best chip.The important thing is that there is competition and competition is in the end always good for the users

@GarrusVakarian-to2uh 11 дней назад

i'm going to buy Snapdragon because I want an open ISA for other chip designers, Apple doesn't need my money they just do their own thing and refuse to fix problems, and Intel and AMD are in a duopoly with nobody else allowed to manufacture X86

@alldecentnamestaken 12 дней назад

The Lunar Lake chip looks crazy efficient. Looking forward to see what sort of systems it ships in.

@adamkee97 12 дней назад

Intel and AMD are still based on x86-64, so they have 1 less work to do compared to Qualcomm, and I will stick with x86-64 for now.

@qwerty6789x 11 дней назад

unfortunately windows is not innovating nor improving from here on

@k691 11 дней назад

@@qwerty6789x you wrong bro there's new windows for arm

@ricarmig 11 дней назад

@@qwerty6789xW12 is on the works. x86 is still the best at full power and compatibility; for the rest ARM wins hands down…

@madmotorcyclist 11 дней назад

@@ricarmig CoPilot is a travesty and I foresee MS in W12 not allowing you to disable it, given their history of monitoring. One reason why I only use my PC for gaming only, and my personal stuff on other OSes.

@youtuberschannel12 11 дней назад

You're right. Learn from the time when Apple switch to arm. Those early adopters just pull their hairs out when things don't work (even with Rosetta. I expect it to be worse with Prism simply because microsoft has a track record of writing bad software compared to Apple). Don't pay to be beta testers for the new chip. 😂 Wait for the entire industry to switch to Windows on Arm before you switch. That tiny gain in terms of power efficiency (compared to Lunar Lake) is not worth pulling your hairs out, especially when you pay for it. You'll end up spending even more time and offsetting that power efficiency trying to make unsupported things work. (from experience). Having said that, we still need guinea pigs to be beta testers to make things work. I just don't want to be that guinea pig 🙂

@AZisk 12 дней назад

Awesome roundup!😊

@remigoldbach9608 10 дней назад

Hi Alex !

@banepigeon 12 дней назад

Please stop saying tops… there are like 3 people here that actually care about the AI performance. And this is coming from a dev.

@billymania11 12 дней назад

Yeah, that's true. Most of us don't give a rat's ass about TOPS.

@ahaimes6320 11 дней назад

True, AI is the biggest marketing con for a while and OEMs are desperate to rebrand to squeeze money from customers.

@christianr.5868 10 дней назад

If you’re a dev you should definitely be integrating ai into your workflow

@thecreativepeasant8781 7 дней назад

@@christianr.5868 and how to do that?

@christianr.5868 7 дней назад

@@thecreativepeasant8781 ask ai to write code that you would usually have to search GitHub for, then correct and repurpose it for what you need. Speeds up your workflow

@quantumdot7393 12 дней назад

Hate to break it to you but the M4 is not going to get 972 in cinebench. the uplift in geekbench mainly came from the new support of matrix calculations on the CPU side. cinebench does nothing with that. It will be slightly better than m3 maybe 750

@1Grainer1 12 дней назад

didn't m4 get miniscule upgrade since they got all massive gains and now it is mature platform that can only be refined? some people here praise x64 as it's the only way forward, but engineers say that we're nowhere near limits of x86, from leaks, zen 7 is supposed to work on power efficiency over the whole voltage curve, so better power managment might be even possible on x86, i don't feel like x64 is the only way to make things power efficient, more like all x64 were designed with mobile in mind, so they are for lower power scenarios

@bruceinmyheart 11 дней назад

Apple in R23 Cinebench 😂😂😂

@geoffstrickler 10 дней назад

@@1Grainer1x86 is essentially dead, Many new Intel and some new AMD chips have dropped support for “real-mode” 8/16-bit x86. It’s virtually all been x64 (more accurately x86-64, an AMD invention) for the last 20 years. And both Intel and AMD have labeled even 32-bit x86 instructions as deprecated or “not recommended” because it’s much more useful to optimize the x64 instructions, so they don’t focus on optimizing the performance of the 32-bit x86 instructions.

@1Grainer1 9 дней назад

@@geoffstrickler so it is essentially dead since windows 7 or vista (dunno if vista had 64-bit version), so you're just proving that this video and comments are wrong the only reason i know of that windows didn't fully commit to x64 is because most programs would have stopped working, so most probably all engineering stuff that never worked on apple

@adamkee97 12 дней назад

Everything blew up all of a sudden.

@oo--7714 12 дней назад

The lunar lake chip can go under 1 watt in idle and 2 watt decoding. It is way more efficient then the z1 extreme/7840u/8840u. At most that uses 4-5 watts of power, and 8-10 watts of total system power. It is way better for laptops if you are concerned about battery life compared to amd.

@oo--7714 12 дней назад

Just saying the battery life drains too fast on a rog ally and legion go.

@mmo0J 11 дней назад

Lunar lake is not on the market yet. Neither AMD's next gen.

@oo--7714 11 дней назад

@@mmo0Jthere has already been a benchmark on RU-vid that intel showed showing it goes under 1 watt on idle and 2-3 watts decoding video.

@marcogoncalves1073 11 дней назад

@@oo--7714 Wheres the under 1 watt video? I saw the 2-3 watt compared to 30 watt decoding of meteor lake, but not the 1 watt idle.

@oo--7714 11 дней назад

@@marcogoncalves1073 was in the pc world video. The intel people had 3dmark on but the benchmark wasn't running, it went from 3 watts down to 0.958 watts.

@krishnansrinivasan830 12 дней назад

Awesome & Excited :) Nice video & Thanks :)

@UpgradeLemonade 12 дней назад

It sounds like Lunar lake might fulfill my dream of playing esports games with an igpu and getting consistently decent frames on low settings. Id love to have the battery efficiency and portability of a thin and light and still be able to comfortably play games

@ahaimes6320 11 дней назад

You will need frame interpolation (AI), which reduces the quality. But, yes, if you are ok with artificial frame rates then the iGPU in these new ultrabook chips may suffice for casual gaming.

@kztvman 12 дней назад

Might be old-school, but I’d like to see where the desktop chips go

@Coconutgl 12 дней назад

Apple defines smart phone, Apple defines tablet, and after 4 years of released of M1, Intel and Qualcomm finally confirm Apple also defines laptop cpu.

@PKperformanceEU 12 дней назад

Apple defines consumer desktop CPU, the m1ultra was way more powerful than 12900K, m2ultra is slightly more powerful than 14900K. Apple is the definition of CPU SPEC CPU® 2017

@FierroSev 12 дней назад

@@PKperformanceEU lol what are you on?

@josephle2381 12 дней назад

@@PKperformanceEUNo it doesn’t lol. Intel and AMD are still the go to when people build desktops😭

@josephle2381 12 дней назад

@@PKperformanceEU”Yeah bro for my cpu I’m going for the M2 Ultra” -said nobody ever

@kleanthisgroutides7100 12 дней назад

@@PKperformanceEUbut the M series have no use case apart from internet browsing, office tasks and audio production… it’s an SoC and comes with all the SoC drawbacks which may work for an ultralight laptop.

@Brunaan429 10 дней назад

Should I wait to buy a new laptop with one of these new intel lunar lake chips or AMD 9000 as I need one by August or should I just buy now? With everything going on I am just very confused?

@Magnus0891 3 дня назад

Wait for Lunar lake it will be worth it :)

@Smittron 12 дней назад

Thanks for the video. It's nice to have both operating system and CPU options. Windows runs the office and gaming, MacOS runs the studio and Linux runs the Internet.

@prianshubhatia2759 12 дней назад

Macos doesn't run the studios. Music studios? Maybe. Other than that, windows is dominant everywhere.

@fmax3000 12 дней назад

@@prianshubhatia2759Creative studios, yes, and more, and it is cannibalising windows. Gaming is also increasing whether you liked it or not. The difference is in the strategy, one is lost and the other is focused.

@dsblue1977 11 дней назад

@@prianshubhatia2759 Windows is not dominant everywhere. There are some industries in which Apple is the standard. Not everyone buys computers for gaming.

@prianshubhatia2759 11 дней назад

@@dsblue1977 ik, but even in professional space, windows is dominant.

@JackInCal 12 дней назад

Thanks Qualcomm for bringing up this competition. Is Snapdragon X Elite the only one that integrates with the 5G modem?

@ahaimes6320 11 дней назад

The X Elite still lacks a 5G option, and we don't know if that will be available until Q4.

@CraigBlack123 11 дней назад

Great analysis. Thank you!

@highlanderc 11 дней назад

One of the best responsive pc’s i had were dual processors. I had a dual processor pentium 2 that was awesome and super snappy. I also had a dual p3 1000mhz that was super responsive. Todays are fast because of ssd but dual processor pcs could be awesome. And shut off one full processor on battery life.

@user-xp6fi2nx7t 11 дней назад

thank you for the great video. i like that your opinions are always objective.

@AustinTXRealEstatebyFelix 4 дня назад

So which new pc is best? i was looking into i9 intel gen 14th and now this...

@inamulbhuyan 12 дней назад

Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤❤

@luke_1234 12 дней назад

What’s the name of the background music?

@Bamir_Lamallari 10 дней назад

Can you please help me with some information I have bought an macbook air M2,but I have a samsung s22 ultra.Do you think those match with each other.Is it easy to share data from one another??

@ZhuozhenYou 7 дней назад

Of course Not. Base on the new functions of iOS18, I suggest you waiting for the new iPhone. In my opinion, lunar lake still have a great distance from Apple M4, or newer chips.

@Bamir_Lamallari 7 дней назад

@@ZhuozhenYou well,I have a samsung now and macbook voming next week.

@shameermulji 12 дней назад

I'm genuinely looking forward to Lunar Lake laptops.

@ixqwo 11 дней назад

As we learned that Apple with M3 uses the N3B node temporarily till M4 with N3E node is fully replacing M2 (PRO, MAX & ULTRA). It looks like that TSMC will not stop producing N3B as suggested. That production stops for Apple is likely now Intel uses the N3B node.

@abc_cba 12 дней назад

Snapdragon X Elite benchmarks look so damn better. I compared it with Ryzen 9 8850HS and it blew my mind entirely. No wonder why x86 seems to be declining in the future if not immediately.

@gaiustacitus4242 12 дней назад

A point that should be made when discussing the ability of the various CPUs/SOCs to run AI is the implementation within the computers which incorporate them. None of the Windows based laptops announced to date have enough onboard resources to run very large LLMs. It doesn't matter how fast the NPU is when the computer doesn't have enough RAM to load and process the LLM. If you want a laptop that can run the LLMs having higher accuracy rates, then your best option is the MacBook Pro M3 MAX (or the M4 MAX version when it ships) with 16-core CPU, 40-core GPU, and 128GB RAM (or better, depending on options available with the M4).

@skyak4493 12 дней назад

Microsoft demanded NPUs on all windows machines because they want to run them full time spying (uh “learning”) on all users. If this spying can’t be turned off I will never run a windows computer again. For all of us with IP to protect, we will run quantized models not much bigger than they need to be to understand our voices and the apps we run.

@billymania11 12 дней назад

You mean for right now. Later, it all changes.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

Thats BS. WHO on earth uses a Mac for AI seriously with NO Cuda-support at all?? And: for interference its all about the fine-tuning of the model. Excaclty what Microsoft delivers. Even more so with their ground breaking Copilot... Apple is loosing big time. But they don't care as they gave up the Mac long time ago...

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

No one is running such large models without Cuda support on MacBooks.

@gaiustacitus4242 12 дней назад

@@ibraheem1224 Yes, they are. These models actually run very well on the more powerful Macs.

@JaimeLacayoPTY 12 дней назад

These are definitively exciting times!

@PixelatedWolf2077 День назад

Hey Vadim, Intel also redid their new iGPU too! It's supposed to help much better in rendering, better Ray tracing support, and now it'll properly support XeSS.

@user-sj3qz9yo3f 11 дней назад

Features aside, pricing? That's a big part of the equation.

@orangeofmars2835 12 дней назад

Looks to me like it is Apple, Qualcomm and Intel efficiency chips for laptops and 2-in-1s and the x86 chip still for power desktops. For me if I upgrade this fall it will be Windows (Snapdragon or Intel).

@johnmartin8481 11 дней назад

This is the most exciting time to consider upgrading my PC I have experienced in years. The Qualcomm Windows announcement is in a word, fantastic! But then I watched the Intel Lunar Lake SOC announcement and Wow. I did not expect this level of advancement from Intel this year. I was thinking of upgrading in a couple of years, but with Intel Lunar Lake and Microsoft Windows 11 Copilot+ PC announcements, I am looking for an upgrade to my Windows 11 laptop later this year. For me things can only get better from here. I just hope the promise of AI on Windows 11 PCs shows real progress. To my way of thinking software developers will have a priority to develop AI apps for X86 with an eye on ARM Windows development. But I would think most will let emulation be the bridge to ARM for the time being. In my case the Microsoft Windows 11 Copilot+ PC and Intel Lunar Lake SOC platform are the best of the best for thin and light laptops. However, I will have to wait to see how the Windows 11 PC makers design for the new world of Microsoft Windows 11 Copilot+ PCs.

@bikemmm6167 11 дней назад

Great video 🎉

@christerwiberg1 12 дней назад

Will be interesting to see how snapdragon will be supported in Linux, I would really like a good Synology NAS with such a cpu and maybe clients as well, like a raspberry sized board.

@Rojfos 12 дней назад

elite x as a stand alone chip might be supported, but i'm afraid that other components of a laptop won't work on linux. as always.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv 12 дней назад

Locked bootloader dude

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

I would stick with changeable ECC RAM for any kind of server workload...

@danielnangos7909 6 дней назад

So let me get this straight, they are comparing their flagship chips against M3-4 baseline?

@Dzlyesful 12 дней назад

Oooh boy we are for a hot game tonight!

@archidube 12 дней назад

I wonder if the intel chips will run x86 apps faster than the others because they use emulation?

@billymania11 12 дней назад

I think you already know the answer to that.

@fastedwarrior7353 12 дней назад

Which of these chips should I buy if I want new computer before the end of the year?

@akin242002 12 дней назад

Check the software you need for the tasks. If it doesn't run on ARM architecture, then Intel or AMD laptops. If it runs on ARM architecture, then Apple or Snapdragon X Elite laptops.

@fastedwarrior7353 12 дней назад

@@akin242002 The software I run will run on Arm or it will very soon run on Arm. Which of these is the best platform if that is the case?

@Betancourtdm 12 дней назад

Also, laptop or desktop? Lunar lake is for laptops, Arrow lake processors are due later this year for desktops, they should have upgradable RAM with CAMM-2 memory

@jpat3680 10 дней назад

Wait and see the comments after they are all out and used for a month.

@drwriddhimanchattopadhyay2701 12 дней назад

Samsung galaxy book 4 edge with x elite vs MacBook is a must now .

@LDDivision 12 дней назад

So, here's what I want you to test, in regards to power consumption. I feel as though it is extremely hard to visualize computer power so, here’s a scenario. I live in a house, there was a storm and a tree branch fell and snapped just the powerline off of the pole to my house but, any Internet lines are still working. I have a Tesla, or a Ford lightning that can power my house and I still want a game after my power is back up until the power company comes out and fixes the line to the grid. how much can I do running on a fixed battery? Because I feel SA standard PC would wear the battery out a lot faster than an M-series Mac. especially considering the immense wattage, a gaming PC uses, versus a Windows laptop, versus a Mac laptop, with everything else being exactly the same because I also think that Power is using, and then it’s generating, would show a difference in your electric bill every month.

@lucannon 12 дней назад

I am still using the iPad air 2 from 2014. I highly doubt that a Samsung Tablet would be this useable after 10 years.

@WarAlex16 12 дней назад

Galaxy Tab s7, s8 and s9 will last.

@Akkk117 12 дней назад

Lol my S8 is lagging now 😂🤮 @@WarAlex16

@WarAlex16 11 дней назад

@@Akkk117 mine is perfectly fine. You must have damaged it or you have a FE version. One Ui is a great optimized OS for S8 and S9.

@lucannon 11 дней назад

@@WarAlex16 The Galaxy Tab s7 came out in August 2020 - OS updates until 2023 and security updates until 2024 - In regards of duration not even close to the ipad air 2.

@Kev4Kev 9 дней назад

What do you mean by useable ? Are you talking about Android developed by Google or the hardware developed by Samsung ? Android is at the whim of Google so Samsung has no say in that if Google pulls support for an OS . An iPad air 2 is hardly usable. What do you actually do on the tablet?

@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 12 дней назад

I love how Intel is sticking with x86 and trying to bring the best efficiency competing with arm.

@oldgrub 10 дней назад

why do you love that

@bort7258 12 дней назад

I really hope Snapdragon X takes off this time so it makes it worthwhile for developers. For the small chance that then Apple would bring back bootcamp for a native Windows experience on Mac again.

@Vashei 12 дней назад

Unless Mac sales crash it will never happen.

@bort7258 12 дней назад

@@Vashei it doesnt take a crash. Its a feature that helps to steal hardware sales from Windows. MacOS still only has a 14% market share while Windows is at 70% +. The same applies today as it did in 2007. And since laptop and desktop sales have been stagnant, its the perfect time to do so if Arm based Windows takes off. That being said, if Snapdragon ends up a flop, no point in doing so.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

@@bort7258 you can not compare the situations. Besides battery runtime there was NO advantage for Apple. And with Snapdragon there IS NO advantage for Apple. If you pay the same money as for Apple hardware - e.g. Microsoft Surface - you a much better experience on the Micosoft side. Sad bad true. Would have liked an Apple Surface Studio... but there was never one. So I switched to Windows after 25 years using only Macs ... (beside Server stuff)

@bort7258 12 дней назад

@@kaptnwelpe5322 For me and many of my peers and co-workers, running Windows natively via bootcamp on our Intel MacBook Pro's was a much better experience vs using Windows on our ThinkPads. In fact, I knew several that got MacBooks just to run Windows all the time via BC and never boot into MacOS. I fail to see why this can't be the same today if ARM takes off this time and Win developers support the platform. Touch interface on a laptop is not crucial to a great Windows experience as there are still a ton of Windows laptops that ship today without touch enabled screens. I currently use Windows 9 to 5 / mon to Friday, have a touch enabled HP work laptop and can't remember the last time my hands used the screen to navigate. For a niche group of people that require input via touch, perhaps so, but that would not be the MacOS target market, rather iPadOS. The Surface Studio is quite the niche product. Pretty fantastic for certain use cases and very well designed and engineered, but still niche and doesn't portray a typical Windows user. Even MS knows this and is why they are super slow to update them with the current one shipping with mostly 2 to 3 generation old specs at astonomical pricing.

@techinrl9869 12 дней назад

@@VasheiI wouldn’t be so sure. Craig Federighi said a couple years ago that the ball was in Microsoft’s court. At the time, Microsoft had an exclusive contract with Qualcomm, which has since expired. Craig F basically said that if Microsoft was willing to allow Windows to run on a Mac, they would be all for it. Remember that Apple is a hardware company while Microsoft is a software company. If Apple can entice people to buy a MacBook by using Windows as a marketing hook, that becomes a win-win for both Apple and Microsoft.

@EricLeung-hk 12 дней назад

Yes. However it is a shock to see build-in engine of Recall with ai featured new CPU which is good to analyse those screen captures to real info. Hackers would soon prove their values in these aspects.

@AndrewRoberts11 10 дней назад

What wasn't covered are the beer tokens you'll need to exchange to equip a business, school, or family, with a stack of them, not forgetting the power bill, in a total cost of ownership, over 3+ years, calculation.

@chipped 12 дней назад

x86 emulation on Windows for ARM still sucks, I have a bunch of applications which won’t run.

@jpat3680 10 дней назад

What's your laptop? The new MS surface laptop with X Elite?

@vincelongman3264 12 дней назад

My guess: Qualcomm/Apple will dominate in ultrabooks. AMD will dominate in gaming laptops. I'm not sold on Lunar Lake. Intel completely avoid efficiency comparisons with Qualcomm/Apple, so I suspect they're still 2-3 generations behind in efficiency

@innosanto 7 часов назад

They say that the lunar lake will be very efficient

@SuperYankeechick 12 дней назад

What about the X Elite Pro, they have 2 chips!

@WarAlex16 12 дней назад

X Plus (multiple skus) and X Elite (multiple skus)

@nikoladjurovic6460 День назад

Since when M4 is a laptop chip?

@asfonseca 12 дней назад

It is soon possible that Nvidia's ARM chips will also be on the market, competing with Qualcomm's Snapdragon X and Apple's M-series.

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

Nvidia hasn't announced any Arm chips. Maybe seeing all the hype, Nvidia will also jump on the bandwagon next year.

@user-sj3qz9yo3f 11 дней назад

Doubt it - simple, why enter a cut-throat, low margin market? It isn't much interested in low-mid GPU market.

@asfonseca 11 дней назад

@@user-sj3qz9yo3f This outdated argument continues to be repeated uncritically by digital influencers within the Apple bubble. This concept is at least four years behind and demonstrates these influencers' disconnect from the current market reality. They are unaware of the high-end and gaming laptop lines, which are far more advanced than any MacBook and sold with good profit margins. Of course, these brands do not operate with exorbitant margins, as their audience is not the typical conformist Apple customer.

@Alicia_tan99 3 дня назад

They will, nvidia and mediatek collab for making nvidia chip with rtx igpu

@LawJolla 12 дней назад

Props to Vadim for owning his previous bad takes on x86. 👍

@chuckg6039 11 дней назад

The vast vast majority use their computers for basic stuff like surfing, RU-vidrs, emails, and simple word processing and spreadsheets. These people could care less about AI and cutting edge processors. Battery life is however very important in the laptop arena.

@VicharB 11 дней назад

N3B a.k.a 3.5 nm is half backed techby, N3E is what is next (both Apple and Intel went with N3B just for the sake of being first, Apple being first with their M3, and ideally the M4 should have been M3).

@rayenhmissi1181 11 дней назад

The only con with Qualcomm is the adreno gpu. If they make a highigher end gpu to compete with nvidia and amd gpus this will be a big deal.

@dukhi_aatma372 11 дней назад

Do people really use this amount of raw processing power of chips in daily usage?

@esscce 10 дней назад

Yes and no. Think about it like this, the power users buy M4 sell m3, the M1 users buy me sell M1. Also depends if it's ultra pro or base model when consumers upgrade. When m1 was new the power was too much, now it's normal. So If I want to buy M1 or X plus I'd be hoping the new stuff sells to the power users so the M1 becomes more affordable

@McCarthy880 5 дней назад

gamers and content creators

@innosanto 7 часов назад

The programs will use that stuff, windows and other programs will be adapted

@movdqa 12 дней назад

I was curious about performance and efficiency comparisons though this sounds like we don't have benchmarks all around just yet.

@skyak4493 12 дней назад

This is all based on vendor claims for chips/configurations that are not available yet. The only thing I have confidence in is that the XElite will finally make a windows laptop with battery performance competitive with Macs. Legacy software and GPU may limit it’s appeal.

@Space97. 12 дней назад

@@skyak4493exactly ive herd that the battery life is very good on the x elite and that's Exciting to see unlike intel I can't trust them yet we shall see with them on "efficiency".

@mr.dude1338 12 дней назад

Crazy how the M series of chips are so powerfull they for real shut down the competition

@mikelay5360 12 дней назад

What do you mean shut down 😂

@BAmalakas 12 дней назад

Are they powerful enough to correct your grammar?

@akin242002 12 дней назад

Not really, but they will keep their market share. Especially in photography where CPU matters more than the GPU.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

Nope. Apple has a contract with TSMC giving them like "first access" rights to the newest chip technologies. So Apple has an advantage worth about 1 year. It must be scary for Apple to think about how fast the Snapdragons will be in their second generation...

@cfzerooo 11 дней назад

Yes shutted down, the ever growing android market share at 71,5%, or the 90% windows market share is dominated by the chip?

@YoutubeUniverse 12 дней назад

People don't talk enough how crucial is the arm optimization for windows, because alot of programs and games won't work for at least a few years . Do based on this alone I feel like Lunar lake sounds the most compelling and also apple M4 if we give up gaming . But apple is more trusted cause they control the whole package software and hardware

@DarkPa1adin 12 дней назад

With AI helping to optimize, I think the optimization phase will be shorter

@billymania11 12 дней назад

Of course Apple lost a lot of their ARM expertise when those guys left and created the Elite chip that Qualcomm now uses.

@DarkKnight2037 11 дней назад

As great as ARM is going to be and will be in the near future. I do not think it will completely wipe out x86, at least not for a long while. I am sure there are things that might be easier to do on x86 than ARM given the instruction set type, but as far as laptops and portable devices go ,ARM will probably end updominating soon. Not this year, but this year we will likely see a huge impact from it and improvments that will come up via optimisation

@linglingstar 12 дней назад

But if Intel is using the N3B node; doesn't that mean they will have to redesign all chips in future like Apple did? In order to use N3E?

@OlegZhuravel 12 дней назад

They will have their own 18A process.

@visitante-pc5zc 12 дней назад

@OlegZhuravel whats the advantage of that?

@jorgevaladas788 12 дней назад

@@visitante-pc5zc Smaller node size compared to N3E, GAA transistors and powervia

@matthewsykes2646 12 дней назад

@visitante-pc5zc theoretically a lot of things, but we need to wait and see if it will turn out well.For sure the tech at the base of the node should be very advanced, and the first among every other foundry with back side power and GAA transistors. This two things together should brings big power efficiency gains compared to normal FinFet transistors, the ones used till today.

@Dani-kq6qq 12 дней назад

They arent using N3E. They are using tsmc to bide time for their own foundry. Dont forget that intel is planning to compete directly with TSMC to make nvidia, apple, qualcomm and amd chips, their goal is to manufacture chips for everyone. That will be their main competitor, not nvidia, amd, qualcomm or apple.

@PieterBreda 11 дней назад

It's good news. Less power consumption is always good. I would never buy an Apple product because I don't like their OS and especially loathe the company and its policies. That being said, they make good products

@AdiPrimandaGinting 4 дня назад

Exciting times. Can't wait for 3-4 years when thinkpad laptops with snapdragons will become $400 dollars

@cooltune 12 дней назад

disruption was needed though. I could bake my eggs sunny side up on my devices. Efficiency is the new performance. It will also help with the longevity of our tech, for sure.

@christ.4977 12 дней назад

So many shake ups this year. SOC is the way to go for mobile and power efficiency. I wonder how long before all workstations are just SOC options with limited upgradeability.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

So you would replace a SOC with 512 GB to 2 TB worth of ECC RAM only because of one chip going bad?? PS: Apple stopped offering Workstation level class Macs a long time ago...

@mashirokobato5509 12 дней назад

@@kaptnwelpe5322their M2 pro machine are the example of fail disaster

@audy6947 11 дней назад

M4 with 8 Gb ram anyone? 🤡

@GarrusVakarian-to2uh 11 дней назад

exactly, Apple's products are for clowns as there is no ram and storage, my friend paid $2500 CAD for a Mac Mini with 24GB ram / 2TB storage, ridiculous

@ereceeme 12 дней назад

IF I could have good performance DaVinci resolve in a low weight low power windows environment Ill take it.

@christianmbabazi9722 12 дней назад

Yes ✋

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

Good thing then that DaVinci Resolve is releasing their native Arm app for Windows by the end of this month.

@TheBann90 12 дней назад

Intel Lunar Lake seems to be the best buy overall here. Apple is too bad in price. AMD is too bad on power consumption. And Lunar Lake seems to have the highest tops for AI. And that is the most important.

@lenn55 12 дней назад

The small and lite window laptops are usually pretty cheap. Is Intel going to lose money on this new chip since it's probably more expensive than their legacy chips that don't have built in memory, ect?

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

The small and lite windows laptops are going to be Snapdragon. Once they have sold to the early adaptors... Guess why Microsoft didn't announce THE Surface where ARM would make the biggest difference - the Surface Go...

@DaRealEaze 8 дней назад

We gonna be eating good in 2024

@Technocrat. 12 дней назад

Intel is smart, they will probably still offer Intel Opane ram memory on board as expanded ram for large tasks

@AhmedSh-nc6lj 12 дней назад

Bro actually X Elite have 3100+ points in single core

@akin242002 12 дней назад

Where? I am checking on Geekbench 6 and it shows the Snapdragon X Elite - X1E84100 chip (most powerful version) at 2800 to 2900 single core.

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

Nahh. Most leaked benchmarks are in the range 2700-2900. That's still quite good for a first gen product running via emulation!

@akin242002 12 дней назад

@@ibraheem1224 Even 2200 single core is still excellent for daily office work. 2400+ is overkill unless you are an engineer or EA shooter game competitor.

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

@@akin242002 Bruhh phone chips are getting 2200 single-score nowadays. Laptop chips obviously need to be better. For reference, Snapdragon 8 Gen 3 gets around 2300 in single-core.

@akin242002 11 дней назад

@@ibraheem1224 They are getting better at an amazing rate, but it's like saying you need rocket fuel to ride a bike in a park. The improved CPU single core performances are great for large CPU tasks, but not a big deal for smaller tasks unless you are in a rush.

@daveh6356 11 дней назад

Yeah, I think there's going to be a huge disparity in marketing specifications. We have Qualcomm citing INT8, Intel & AMD combining multiple function blocks then comparing them to the competition's single function blocks. All very under-handed as CoreML allows multiple blocks to be used. The picture painted by GeekbenchML does not concur with any of these points BTW. You should start publishing these.

@hereb4theend 3 дня назад

The Xe2 in the intel is insanely powerful. Raytracing that's better than Nvidia is a thin and light is mind boggling.

@briancase6180 12 дней назад

AI performance: hint, be aware of memory bandwidth. Who has the highest memory bandwidth? Why does that matter? Who supports quantization the best? Is their quantization support compatible with the industry or is it proprietary?

@mmlewis1030 12 дней назад

It is important to note that only the Snapdragon X Elite will be widely available for the important back-to-school season. Youths that are used to the battery life of iPad and mobile phones will gravitate towards Snapdragon X Elite devices.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

Surface Go ... if the price is right and Microsoft "gets it" - upgradeable SSD for the non-school customer s - killer...

@niko2002 День назад

X86 is best at compatibility but soon ARM will take over, I won't be surprised.

@LAVutube 5 дней назад

M4 - top notch Intel - all rouder Amd - performance oriented Snap - towards effiency and battery.

@LumpyMoose 12 дней назад

Good and fair video. Remember that the vast majority of Apple software is optimised for Arm, and the vast majority of Windows software isn’t! So benchmarks are meaningless when comparing optimised arm software against unoptimised x86 software running on arm.

@kenlee224 12 дней назад

Consider a large amount of x86 arichecture legacy software available, I support Intel move to the Lunar Lake even someone may say that they have copied idea from Apple.

@kalpanajagarlamudi8795 3 дня назад

Lunar lake is only for low rnd devices.

@scb2scb2 12 дней назад

the fact apple was able to get their own cpu's under control and will never again depend on others (motorola, ibm, intel) is all the win apple needed. They don't need to 'be the fastest' they just need to be fast enough for their products and it seems they will be doing fine for the next few years. The fact other chip makers and youtubers compare to their chips is a bonus for PR.

@visitante-pc5zc 12 дней назад

Apple stuff is overpriced. Enough is not enough

@kleanthisgroutides7100 12 дней назад

At the expense of killing three industry sectors… CAD, Photo and Video. The only sector they lead in is audio production which was their smallest in terms of revenue. Apple not only shot themselves in the foot but shot their other foot and both arms plus they missed the AI train. Remember NVidia? How the tables have turned.

@scb2scb2 12 дней назад

@@visitante-pc5zc something is only overpriced if people who buy it don't see the value. clearly apple has found a market segment in all areas they play in that disagree with you.

@scb2scb2 12 дней назад

@@kleanthisgroutides7100 true or not (won't reply to that) how is apple making their own chips instead of Motorola, IBM or intel have any relation to this, do you feel they would be in a better position if they stayed with any of their old chip providers instead of doing it them selves?

@kleanthisgroutides7100 12 дней назад

@@scb2scb2 for laptops they did the right thing… for desktops they effectively killed the markets I mentioned above, they are simply not suitable and not fit for purpose in any use case that requires performance and/or GPU horse power.

@djayjp 12 дней назад

Your estimated chart showed the Intel iGPU being faster than AMD... 😂

@GarrusVakarian-to2uh 11 дней назад

he said they are about the same

@trippplefive 8 дней назад

So, does Qualcomm expect people to pre-order based on their marketing materials and pseudo-ads on tech RU-vid channels? Why haven't we seen benchmarks conducted by actual users instead of the performance numbers that Qualcomm wants to believe their processors can achieve?

@basedmeditation4158 8 дней назад

x86 will continue on for desktops as it offers more raw performance it won't die anytime soon yet

@GoncaloCarvalhoVlogs 12 дней назад

Waiting for WWDC last minute leaks

@MainStreetBusinessStrategies 12 дней назад

Tough to judge for these videos, it's like... "Hey, are super-duper chip, that we pump up with a ton of wattage is just as powerful as that Apple chip from 2 years ago.... really it is... trust us/"

@andrewchee9235 11 дней назад

Qualcomm's 1st generation Oryon cores in the the Snapdragon X Elite beats Apple's 1st - 3rd generation M series chips and is only beaten by 4th generation M4 chips. Does that mean... by 2nd generation..... Qualcomm's Snapdragon Dragon X Elite chips will equal Apple's M6 chip? 😅

@dsblue1977 11 дней назад

Qualcomm is only beating Apple when energy consumption is not an issue.

@andrewchee9235 11 дней назад

@@dsblue1977 but apple has 4 generations of power efficiency refinements. compare 1st Gen M1 with 1st Gen snapdragon x elite. all I'm saying is... their first go at it.... 1st Gen already matches apples 3rd Gen 😜

@Steelriter 12 дней назад

Snapdragon elite looks good

@christianmbabazi9722 12 дней назад

2:16 You're probably the only RU-vid channel to actually print this out well talking about this as funny as we make fun of Apple for how the m1 is design they're following their play book because there seeing how good it is but at the same time hopefully we don't get the big price hikes

@akin242002 12 дней назад

Glad to see all the CPU manufacturers are getting better. The real winner is the customer. - For business laptops, the X1 Carbon G13 will be amazing with Intel Lunar Lake. For tasks the ARM architecture is capable of doing, Snapdragon X Elite will take that market share. - For gaming desktops and mini-PCs, AMD will dominate from a CPU standpoint. Still X86, so gamers will not lose their games. Also, "Recall" is not included. - Apple will keep their current market. The M4 Pro MacBook Pro will continue to dominate the photography and video editing industry. Same in the front-end programming with JavaScript and backend with Java.

@kaptnwelpe5322 12 дней назад

Apple will lose market share just by the existance of a new level of Windows battery runtime. When the economy tanks - which it looks like it will - Apple will get in big trouble as it could not afford to substantially lower the price of their Mac Mini or entry level MacBooks.

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

@@kaptnwelpe5322Bruhh Apple captured a wide market of Windows with their M-series chip laptops... No wonder Microsoft is desperate to get it back.

@akin242002 11 дней назад

According to Statcounter, MacOS increased from roughly 15% of the USA market to 25% of the USA market. Impressive growth, but still not the majority. Edit: This is from June 2014 to May 2024 to give historical reference.

@rawkfist-ih6nk 12 дней назад

Whatever will make PCs less painful to use.

@murtazachaudhary3339 11 дней назад

Nice video

@michaelkhalsa 10 дней назад

There are some fundamental points you are missing. X64 is not inherently less efficient than arm, as there are trade offs each direction, and the architectures borrow from each other. Rather, there is a lot of backwards compatibility that x86/64 has to support, plus the differences on the operating systems running on the chips Also intel was/is servers first, consumers second, whereas Apple is consumers first. This results in some fundamental differences in how a particular chip is optimized. You would not sell a server chip with on die ram Once Intel was willing to make this shift, and windows can let go of baggage, then you will see efficiencies start to even out. Intel has some brilliant engineers, which Apple enticed to their side for awhile, and now Qualcomm is benefitting from the protégées coming out of intel and ibm. Look, intel managed 2.5x the npu power on lunar lake of apples m4. They added the various hardware encoders which propelled Apple silicon on so many you tube review sites, and reduced power consumption greatly, including next gen on die interconnect layer that they have been working on for over a descale. By the way, I really love the vision Apple has brought forth, and I really enjoy their products and ecosystem, although I use windows, Mac, and Ubuntu, depending on usage.

@emiel333 12 дней назад

Some thoughts: Apple released M3 in Q4/23, not long after it, the M3 Pro & M3 Max, all for Mac. Everyone shouts that the new iPad Pro will get M3. May 7, 2024. Apple Event. Apple announces 4 new iPad models. Air 11” 6th gen (it’s actually 10.9”, but who cares) with M2, Air 12.9” (officially it must be called iPad Air 12.9” 1st gen due to being the first Air with this screen size) with M2 (no rumored Liquid Retina XDR mini-LED, but LCD), iPad Pro 11” (it’s actually a 11.1” display it’s a tiny bit taller at the longest side, 2420 x 1668 pixels, while its predecessors had a resolution of 2388 x 1668 pixels, also M2 is 247.6mm in height while M4 is 249.7 mm in height) with M4 and iPad Pro 13” with M4. One of the reasons for Apple to skip the M3 is that the Tandem OLED display (Ultra Retina XDR) needed an more advanced processor, so they developed M4 for iPad just 6 months after the release of M3. What if M4 is specifically designed for the iPad Pro and they won’t announce an M4 Pro or higher but instead an M5 chip for all the new Mac hardware that will be announced later this year? I’m just thinking about loudly and I wonder what your opinion is on my previous sentence. I could be totally wrong of course, what I’ve written is just speculation (that Mac will get M5 instead of M4). Let me know what you think of this, Max!

@shaunpugh3287 12 дней назад

We keep seeing various benchmarks where Intel is faster than Apple, or Apple is faster than AMD, etc, etc, but the real world results show how much Apple has worked on integration and system-wide efficiencies. I hope MS take note of this part and don't just rely on brute force of the fastest SoC to get results. This is an opportunity for MS to get rid of some of the baggage associated with legacy Windows and to work with vendors such as Adobe to fine tune their apps to the new SoC's.

@ibraheem1224 12 дней назад

Sadly software has never been Microsoft's strong point (which is kinda' weird if you think about it). I like Windows 11 more than 10, but it's still quite inconsistent at times.

@Kev4Kev 9 дней назад

If they got rid of the baggage why would one any use windows ? People use Windows because they know that there software will work on it. if they did what Apple did with their silicon or got rid of backwards support it would kill the Windows Market. If anything they should have continued the development of Singularity and Midori and instead just launched two OS's one that is the advancement of current Windows and the second being a new OS. This way they could have developed the new OS without the baggage while still having Windows but with limited new features and then eventually kill it when the new OS is up to par.