Applying Stains & Hard wax oil Finish - A new Guitar build Part 15

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In this episode of the guitar building series it's time to stain and finish this guitar. I'm using the TLC Sustain guitar stains to give this guitar some color and apply several coats of Trae Lyx hard wax oil topped of with some Chestnut microcrystalline wax.
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Stains from TLC: tlcguitargoods.com/en/finishi...
Chestnut wax: chestnutproducts.co.uk/produc...
Trae Lyx hard wax oil (dutch only): www.traelyx.nl/product/hardwa...
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Test pieces
2:05 TLC Sustains
2:33 Masking of the body
4:09 Staining the guitar
17:54 Applying the hard wax oil
28:52 Microcrystalline wax
35:02 End result and Outro
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Комментарии : 82

@rodneynolan 5 месяцев назад

I think I just decided how I’m going to finish my first guitar. The process looks so easy and the results are outstanding! Very well done!

@herbrubio4474 12 дней назад

My friend you are amazing! You really create masterpieces!💥💥💥💥

@mareDBS 3 года назад

You channel is pure gold for hobby wanna bee guitar builder like me. Thanks for lots of good infos

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey Mare Production, Thank you very much for the compliments. I really appreciate it.

@richarddewit6856 4 года назад

It looks great. Nice to see how the wood grain stands out when you treat it like this. In real life the effect will be even more visible. It's a beauty, now wait how she sounds.

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Richard, In real life the details and color shifts are more visible indeed. I don’t give any spoilers on how she sounds but... check out next week’s video.

@bishlap 2 года назад

in the correct lighting that color is fantastic and really brings out the wood grain.

@zigzagrz 4 года назад

wow! that finish is really great, this is the type of guitars that one dreams about owning

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Zig Zag, Thank you. Yeah I'm quite pleased with how this finish ended up.

@tylerparker3024 Год назад

The back of that neck looks amazing. What a bichen guitar

@Wu2u22 3 года назад

I really love this finish. And I totally agree with the choice on a stained guitar.

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey Scott, Thank you.

@blues-indianer8667 2 года назад

Woooow, this is a killer design! But not only that: Your handcraft and work is phenomenal!! You're working so precisely and professional, this is amazing! Congratulation to that, what you do, and this is more than a "work". Seems it is like an inner concept to built guitars! I could learn so much for my actual strat project, and will not laquer it, but do as you show (I looked also other vids from you)! Gorgeous! Thanks a lot, Henry from Germany!!!!

@Adventuresingearland 2 года назад

It's a wonderful finish - great work.

@josephbania4564 3 года назад

That is gorgeous. You are inspiring my latest build.

@shrimuyopa8117 3 года назад

What a beautiful piece of art work! Thanks for sharing!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey Tyler, Thank you very much for the compliment.

@zeffneeson7599 Год назад

New to the channel and really enjoying your content . I had a slow year with motivation for building only built 2 basses one still not finished lol But watching your vids has made me realise I really miss getting in the workshop after work every evening a fresh build and loving it cheers buddy 👊🏻 When I get to the finishing / staining side I sand to 320 then damp the body to raise the grain then sand again makes a hugh difference when staining and much more of a super flat finish We did it with every piece of furniture at one cabinet makers I work at as standard . The finish comes up so much quicker Livening your channel and approach inspiring and very very tidy work 👌👌 look forward to watching more 👊🏻

@hball6695 3 года назад

wow! that is one beautiful guitar! the finish, the shape of the body...fantastic! right now I'm waiting for the hard oil finish on my first kit build to cure and after watching this I've decided she definitely needs a coat of wax to finish her off. Thanks, Daniel.

@michaelfrancis1 3 года назад

Great contrast. Dark and natural wood... Very niiiice!!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Michael, Thank you once again.

@RafaelYamaga 3 года назад

Another incredible step by step. I guess I will organize my pics and upload a slideshow for you about an SG I finished similarly. Kudos. You rock, man.

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Rafael, Thank you very much. I would love to see pictures on that SG you finished using this method.

@angelotero7117 5 месяцев назад

Looks great!

@robbryant3588 3 года назад

Simply gorgeous!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Rob, Thank you very much!

@jjdillon2007 3 года назад

Daniel, it looks beautiful!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey JJ Dillon, Thank you very much!

@roelschouten8834 3 года назад

Really enjoying your videos, great looking guitar. Dankje wel

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey Roel, Thank you very much for the compliment. And good to hear you enjoy my videos. Graag gedaan.

@richbrack431 4 года назад

The oil made the grain pop out, top looks great. and a old trick i was taught was #0000 steal wool & butcher wax it works real good , nice work Dan .

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Rich, Yeah the oil and wax made all the difference. And I’ll have to look into your tip and try it out. Thank you.

@FendermanMB 3 года назад

Looks great 👍🤘🤘🤘 i like this finish 👍i work with tru-oil finish 😉👍 beautiful work, Mr. 😉👍 and Merry Christmas 🎄🎅

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Martin, Thank you very much. The finish turned out pretty great if I may say so myself. I'm intending to give Tru Oil a try on one of my next builds. I've heard about, and seen great results so I'm curious to give it a try myself. It should cut down on application and curing times a lot.

@emilioledezma954 3 года назад

Saludos cordiales desde Costa Rica excelente trabajo 🇨🇷 👍🏻

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Emilio, Thank you!

@JohnClothier 4 года назад

Wow that grain really popped when you put oil on the back! Really interesting to see your technique. Another lesson learnt

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Adding a little oil does make quite a difference doesn't it? That's why I love Black Limba. It's such a pretty wood, easy to work with and looks so good with an oil finish. I don't know if my technique is the proper or best way of doing it, but it seems to work for me.

@adrienami8958 3 года назад

Good idea mix the guitar stains, excelent result with wax oil. For masking, you should try a mask tape quite narrow, you know? The kind that guys use for masking helmets paintings, no leaks.

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Adrien, Thank you. Yeah the color and finish on this one turned out great. Thanks for the tip. I know the type of masking tape you're referring to. It's the type also used for striping on cars. Unfortunately not widely available over here. I have to order it online one of these days.

@emilioledezma954 3 года назад

Increíbles guitarras

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Emilio, Thank you very much for the compliment!

@ralfkappmeyer5549 3 года назад

nice. I like black limba and oil finishes myself. great look of that Git. Greetings from Rhön (GER)

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Ralf, Thanks. And you might love the guitar I'm building at the moment as well. It's going to be a full Black Limba body with indeed an oil finish.

@ralfkappmeyer5549 3 года назад

@@UnquendorGuitars great! mine is a full Black Limba Singlecut Bass, headless. Done in 2 weeks I hope. It is my first build. Check Instagram for "hootmacher".

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

@@ralfkappmeyer5549 Vey nice! I will check it out. And try to be patient while finishing the bass...

@cghbuilder86 2 года назад

Thanks for this looks awesome! My question is how do you rout that chamfer for faux binding with that body perimeter facet? Wouldn’t that body taper keep the router from having a flat face to ride on for a good consistent chamfer?

@formynexttick2104 3 года назад

Suggest sanding to at least 2000 grit

@mesaton 4 года назад

Nice work Daniel! Looks great! Curious how this one sounds in the end when finished!

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Ton, It turned out very good indeed. There will be some sound clips in next weeks video. No spoilers yet.

@cghbuilder86 Год назад

Are the pores still open in this finish? Or did you apply multiple coats and cut back to fill them in? The finish looks great! I’m trying to achieve that result with the stuff I have on hand since my building budget is beyond shot. I just usually find that open pores don’t look right when I try it.

@Cestariarts 3 года назад

Amazing! Any tips to stain the fretboard? I have a rosewood scale, very brown on a black gloss body and I HATE IT TO THE GUTS

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Abner, I personally don't have experience with staining a fretboard. The stain will most likely wear off I can imagine. And staining rosewood might also be difficult to get consistent because of it's color. You could look up how to ebonize wood to get an idea. If had to do it I would most likely use black ink or just replace the fretboard with real ebony. Or if the guitar has a bolt on neck, swap out the neck.

@markfisher2282 2 года назад

Hi Dan. How many millimeters wide are your nut fittings/fretboards on standard examples? Are they 44mm?

@ronankierans1600 Год назад

Hi Dan Has the colour of this stained finish faded in the sunlight over time? I know that can happen with some dyes.

@user-kw5dh7rp2z 2 года назад

Здравствуйте, подскажите пожалуйста финишный слой чем покрываете воском? Очень красиво классно!) Очень понравилось!

@stellare2372 3 года назад

I really love the finish! Did you sand down the body between every coat of oil? I want to have a nice satinish finish for my stratocaster but I'm not sure what to use. Do you think I could achieve similar results with wax only? Thank you!!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Sekor, No I didn't sand between all the coats. I only sand in between coats when I feel the texture is still a bit rough or to polish the final coat a bit extra. An oil finish can give you a very nice satin finish in my opinion. Depending on the type of wood I wouldn't apply wax directly. Most waxes need a very smooth surface so usually an oil finish or even sanding sealer will do as a base before applying wax. Good luck with your project.

@stellare2372 3 года назад

@@UnquendorGuitars thx for the useful info! Congratulations on the wonderful finish and good luck to you as well :)

@badmoney 3 года назад

Dan, can the hard wax oil be left out and the chestnut microcrytalline wax applied right after the stain? What would be the difference?

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Badmoney, For the microcrystalline wax it is best to have some kind of filler or sealer applied to the surface unless the surface is very dense. If you have open pores the wax gets in there and you can't reach it anymore to buff it out. Possibly leaving dull spots. The hard wax oil I'm using also gives the guitar additional protection against scratches, dents and moisture because it dries real hard. (it's intended to be used on wood flooring) Instead of hard wax oil, or any other finish you could also use the Chestnut sanding sealer as a base for the wax. This is also suggested on the tin by Chestnut, but I haven't tried it myself yet. Their sealers are also very easy to apply. Hope this answered your question.

@steveroberts 4 года назад

Having watched many guitar staining videos, I wonder if the black was sanded back more, there would be better detailing in the wood

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Steve, Yes there would have... but that was not the effect I was after. If I had sanded back the black more there would have been more obvious 'highlights' and detailing in the wood. The purple would have been more pronounced and I think the guitar would have looked like a 'purple' guitar. I wanted this guitar to appear as mostly black with just a purple hue. And only with the shifting of light reveal all the details and color shifts. Now I'm curious though about how think the finish turned out?

@steveroberts 4 года назад

@@UnquendorGuitars Yes I understood that by the end. Note written too early. Still great contene

@jessijamesguitars7502 4 года назад

Looks really nice Dan, i also bought them 2 stains, there really good to use. Looking very nice, whats the oil and wax called. JJ

@UnquendorGuitars 4 года назад

Hi Jessi, Thanks. The oil is Trae Lyx hard wax oil and the wax is Chestnut microcrystalline wax. See the links in the video description.

@jessijamesguitars7502 4 года назад

@@UnquendorGuitars many thanks Dan

@TheKub4s Год назад

Is a microcrystalline wax necessary? Wouldn't more layers of hard wax do similar job? Just asking, because I plan to stain and wax my custom guitar, and I am collecting experiences. Most people do: 1.Stain 2. Sanding Sealer 3. Wax/lacque; but I like your way. Let me know, thanks!

@UnquendorGuitars Год назад

Hi James1495, It is not really necessary but I like the extra depth and protection it seems to give. At least in my eyes. More layers hard wax oil doesn't always give the best result. At some point the wood doesn't absorb the oil anymore and although you can keep applying more coats the finish doesn't come out as durable in my experience due to the build up of wax and oil and the increased curing time. It takes forever to fully harden.

@gingerjam2192 3 года назад

I really like the color, almost black but with a subtle purple hue. 👍 What’s the reference of your hard wax oil? I’m starting a bass guitar with a wenge/purpleheart neck and a wenge/ash or limba body. I’d like an oil finish as nice as your guitar. And you say it dries hard, that’s a good thing!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Ginger Jam, Thank you very much. I'm using the Trae Lyx satin gloss hard wax oil. I don't know how widely available this is outside the Netherlands. A quick google search only showed Dutch sellers and the Trae Lyx website is only in Dutch or French. But I think it might be worth to try another brand hard wax oil. Good luck on your build.

@gingerjam2192 3 года назад

@@UnquendorGuitars Thank you for your answer. I’m French. Trae Lynx is available in the Netherlands and Belgium. It might be possible to order from a Belgian seller. Is it similar to the Rustin danish oil ? Harder ?

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

@@gingerjam2192 Oh yeah you might be able to get it from Belgium. I haven't used Rustin danish oil before so I can't tell the difference other than the hard wax oil having, like the name suggests, a hard wax component suspended in the oil. I don't think that's the case with the Rustin Danish oil. My gut feeling is that the hard wax oil should be harder and durable because it is meant to be used on flooring.

@ErebosGR 3 года назад

@@gingerjam2192 "Hard wax oil" is, I think, carnauba wax mixed with boiled linseed oil and mineral spirits. If you don't want to mess with ratios, you can first apply 1-2 coats of the boiled linseed oil mixed with mineral spirits (50:50), and then once it's fully cured apply the carnauba wax for added hardness.

@mauricerrr Год назад

Echt mooi gedaan. Waarom hang je de gitaar niet op als je die hard wax olie erin wrijft? Dan kun je overal een stuk beter bij

@UnquendorGuitars Год назад

Hi Maurice, Bedankt voor het compliment en het meedenken. Echter de Hard Wax olie moet best stevig in en uit gepoetst worden tijdens het aanbrengen. Als de gitaar ophangt gaat dat niet zo makkelijk.

@mauricerrr Год назад

@@UnquendorGuitars Ah oké logisch!

@ronaldmiday8155 3 года назад

Hello sir i build a electric guitar mahogany body its thickness is 2 inch but its heavy what can i do to make it light weight?

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hi Ronald, To reduce weight you could make the body a little thinner. 1.75" is a more frequent used thickness but if you're not using a tremolo style bridge you could even go thinner. I often make my bodies 1.6" (43mm) thick. If you are using a top on your guitar you could also make some extra cavities underneath the top to get rid of a lot of the Mahogany and reduce weight that way. Or if you want to go a little more extreme you could also cut holes all the way through the body. Essentially you'll have to find ways to get rid of some of the body material to reduce weight but leave enough so you don't compromise the strength and stability of the guitar. Good luck.

@ronaldmiday8155 3 года назад

Thank you sir🙂

@vistavette1663 3 года назад

You figured out how to get kids to play outside!?!

@UnquendorGuitars 3 года назад

Hey Vista, Personally I didn't, besides my guitars I don't have any kids unfortunately, but one of my neighbors must have found a way to get them out of the house at the time. Unfortunately the play area is right next to my workshop which makes recording videos a bit challenging at times.