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@JohnOverstreet
@JohnOverstreet 3 года назад
So glad you interviewed Steve & Chris! The Aptera is not for everyone, but I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will want one, just because it will be so very cheap to operate.
@BTSflyer
@BTSflyer 3 года назад
They have already sold out for the first production run. I think there is lots of interest. It only took a few days to sell out.
@davedyer3654
@davedyer3654 3 года назад
@@BTSflyer not difficult to sell out a production run these days, whether they will sustain sales remains to be seen. It is very niche and not many would be able to afford to buy it as a second vehicle at $26k
@fotoguru222
@fotoguru222 3 года назад
@@davedyer3654 True, the first exclusive production run was small. Last I heard they now have over 5000 pre-orders. That's over a year into their production rampup plan, which they plan to ramp up to 10,000 / year, then introduce larger, 4 wheeled true cars.
@rwyo83
@rwyo83 3 года назад
Imagine this car with the new solid state batteries. 2000 miles
@davedyer3654
@davedyer3654 3 года назад
@@fotoguru222 Hard to believe that a company can survive on only 5000 cars a year @ only ‘$26k’ each
@xflyingtiger
@xflyingtiger 3 года назад
You charge the Aptera to its 1,000 range (or whatever it ends up being), and then keep it there with the free charging supplied by the solar skin of the car. You might need to plug it in once every 6 months, or once per year, depending. This car has an electric charging port, so you can charge it. You can charge it overnight just like Tesla, but with a standard 110 volt plug. Twenty five thousand dollars, deduct all the federal and state incentives, and you end up with a totally affordable car for most people.
@ScottOstr
@ScottOstr 2 года назад
If govt were smart, they would give an incentive for all 3 wheel electric vehicles. But big car company lobbyists won't allow it. ☹️
@thomasmccabe1271
@thomasmccabe1271 2 года назад
Yep big car will be the entire reason why it doesn't qualify for the ev incentives. It happens every day in every industry. Lobbyists are the biggest enemy to the general public and getting fair prices. They should honestly be banned and lobbying made illegal but that will never happen because the politicians make way to much money from them
@richarda3659
@richarda3659 2 года назад
The version with 1,000 miles of range doesn't cost close to $25.000. Check the web site; it's more like $45K, plus another $1800 for the full solar panel treatment, which is necessary to achieve 40 miles of charge per (sunny) day. Also, it doesn't exist.
@TrggrWarning
@TrggrWarning 2 года назад
@@richarda3659 This guy is simply saying a long term potential. To debunk it you put forth a shot term worst case scenario. Like if you were a commuter with a 50mile commute, complicated by rainy days. Lol Good luck with that year long charge bud!!! Hahahahaha
@TrggrWarning
@TrggrWarning 2 года назад
Sounds like an argument for Globowarming. Solar cars! Just kidding. They will kill everyone first.
@emily8878
@emily8878 3 года назад
Quite possibly the only car that you DON'T want to park in the shade.
@enmiredbythelazy4401
@enmiredbythelazy4401 3 года назад
I was wondering how that might work out here in AZ. Great charging, but how is the a/c and how much would it offset the charging to have to run it before you get in so you don't flash fry.
@tarangatabiteuea2655
@tarangatabiteuea2655 3 года назад
@@enmiredbythelazy4401 Don't forget that if you had the full range of PV a lot of the heat would be turned into extra travel - and if you were a night worker you could just sleep in the summer and have free travel to work!
@bloodypommelstudios7144
@bloodypommelstudios7144 3 года назад
If they can deliver this will be the first solar powered car which seems worth it to me. Good compromise between efficiency and practicality at a reasonable price.
@KingLutherQ
@KingLutherQ 3 года назад
That's where it went wrong for Aptera - they hired a management company from Detroit.
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 3 года назад
That's right. Nobody in Detroit has any idea about how to build a BEV.
@animistchannel2983
@animistchannel2983 3 года назад
Yah, their subliminal body language looked like a morgue as soon as those words came out. The "expert auto management team" they hired led them down all the wrong trails, and the company bled out of cash spending for hype campaigns instead of functional production. Now their advisor is Sandy Munroe? His team will keep them grounded in the real world, not wandering in fantasy la-la land. My only concern for them is that the next model cheaper Tesla, and the Arcimoto FUV, could compete directly with them for the economy-sport market share, and those both have a big head start on production & brand establishment.
@billdale1
@billdale1 3 года назад
@@animistchannel2983: as for Arcimoto, it looks waaay fun until you get broadsided at ANY speed. Aptera provides some protection, and greater practicality.
@animistchannel2983
@animistchannel2983 3 года назад
@@billdale1 I'm not going to argue that point. I just think there are other factors at work. The thing is, Arcimoto is identity-linked to the motorcycle/trike market, where rock-safety isn't the primary selling point. The Aptera is more protection for more money, but less free-to-the-wind. The Tesla is even farther down that scale, super safe but basically a regular car. None of them cost much to run, so no real deciding factor there. That leaves Aptera wedged between the other two, without the major selling point of either one: it doesn't have Arcimoto's nimbleness or Tesla's support structure. That's a hard place to market. If Tesla puts out the economy version that competes in price, that could squeeze Aptera hard, leaving it in a niche/novelty cul-de-sac. Now, given my choice and a giant magic wand, I'd want everyone to want an Aptera-like vehicle with Tesla's self-driving future. It's basically what most of them need, and it would speed that transition to a cleaner, more efficient society by a lot. Unfortunately, there may not be enough people who take it as far as $27k-$47k given the other equally easy options. I wish them well and agree with their philosophy, but I am just looking at the realities and thinking they may need more leverage on the market. At 19k they would clean up. At the current price, they can maybe survive to develop a clique. Their best hope to get big may be that Tesla and Arcimoto just couldn't handle the EV demand curve, which would leave people looking for that other way to go in between. Buckminster Fuller foresaw this very kind of market/concept when he designed the Dymaxian Car back in like the 1930's, but technology at the time wasn't up to the task. Today it is. Maybe Aptera can fulfill a piece of that future while it's still developing...
@aitorbleda8267
@aitorbleda8267 3 года назад
@@surferdude4487 Or build a profitable business...
@jimchapman2887
@jimchapman2887 3 года назад
I got this from the Aptera site. not as dangerous as it looks? We will not know Aptera's actual rating until we pass a production vehicle through the full safety test. But we are designing to exceed all passenger car standards and the previous version had the highest roof crush strength of all passenger cars on the road, and it performed exceedingly well in actual side and frontal crash tests. Aptera features a Formula One-inspired safety cell with advanced composites and metal structures for impact strength. Similar to aerospace and racing, these energy-absorbing methods are a core part of our safety strategy and have proven effective time and time again in high speed impacts. Aptera also makes use of today’s best forward and side airbag systems in case of an accident.
@sirgibsonable
@sirgibsonable 3 года назад
Thank you! This is what I most wanted to know.
@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh
@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh 3 года назад
I was in Brad's boat -- my first and last thoughts were this doesn't look safe
@davec9608
@davec9608 3 года назад
Same here my biggest question was safety , surprised they didn't mention this in this show kind of important note.
@davidmaddon554
@davidmaddon554 2 года назад
@@Mac_an_Mheiriceanaigh that’s interesting I saw it an thought “genius” it look like an egg the strongest shape found in nature. The external wheels are just external crumple zones and and it’s light weight means much of the force in a major accident will be dispersed in movement verses being crushed , I am glad they are moving away from the belt based air bag and moved to a traditional system. Now let us see it in the Moose Test avoiding an accident is more important than surviving one.
@that90skid72
@that90skid72 2 года назад
There's one thing automakers need to take into consideration: a big percentage of auto work commuters do go to work on their own. Therefore no need for a super giga SUV for that kind of use. And as far as single ppl go, the Aptera can do everyting for them.
@rickrack78
@rickrack78 3 года назад
I’ve been watching Aptera since they started years ago in San Diego. I’ve got email from them as early as August 2009, when I considered buying one. Seriously wanted to work for them. Then they got caught up in Detroit madness, then overcooked the batteries in the challenge they entered. They faded away and were rumored to have sold to some Chinese investors. Glad to see them back! Still want one! I wish that Elio Motors could get some traction too.
@natedunn51
@natedunn51 3 года назад
This channel is the most expensive thing in my life, first a cybertruck now an aptera, next maybe solar roofing who knows, but I'll probably find it here.
@jeremydable2468
@jeremydable2468 3 года назад
I have ordered 13 Cybertruks and now an Aptera too.
@petertraveller6421
@petertraveller6421 3 года назад
Next order, Semi 😁
@johnwilson5743
@johnwilson5743 3 года назад
LOL. Well done Andrew. I've also ordered a couple of CT's. (Paid for by the Tesla share "profits" I'm making.) Fingers crossed, of course! Cheers.
@yogiyoda
@yogiyoda 3 года назад
@@jeremydable2468 - Why 13?
@jeremydable2468
@jeremydable2468 3 года назад
@@yogiyoda I live in a country where many people do weekly commutes from city to city of between 200 to 300 miles but where public transport is about the most expensive in the world for such distances. As an ordinary shared taxi door to door, they would be competitive with both bus and train. Plus-not long to TAAS transport as a service by robotaxi ( at least I hope so)
@SHOREHILLEYEWEAR
@SHOREHILLEYEWEAR 3 года назад
I’m liking the all black with neon green branding - This is what a car in 2021 should look like. Something out of blade runner
@jetah50
@jetah50 3 года назад
dark colors are hard to see at night.
@braugarduno3024
@braugarduno3024 3 года назад
I know, i love the design of the aptera
@skscotch
@skscotch 3 года назад
@@jetah50 Cars have lights lol 😆
@maawmaopa6709
@maawmaopa6709 3 года назад
car using solar panel will definitely get problem regularly...
@tylerdurden3347
@tylerdurden3347 3 года назад
I always wanted to get an Aptera, paint it T-Rex lizard skin with teeth and name it the RAPTERA.
@lilieb3606
@lilieb3606 3 года назад
But why tho Why ruin the aesthetics
@christinearmington
@christinearmington 3 года назад
Yes! 🐸🦖🦕
@terryterry1655
@terryterry1655 2 года назад
Pinky promise. Show me proof of aptera booking
@creeper4481
@creeper4481 2 года назад
The RAPTERA sounds like a high performance Variant of the Aptera, like how the Shelby GT350/500 is a high performance version of the Mustang
@ccibinel
@ccibinel 2 года назад
Luna class starship done up like TNG Trek; think my wife would kill me?
@likedcommentsRdeleted
@likedcommentsRdeleted 3 года назад
the way things are heading, not having to rely a person's access to fuel, or even a place to charge, really appears like a game changer with this vehicle............
@Dr.FeelsGood
@Dr.FeelsGood 3 года назад
Yea, oh yea just make sure you live in a place like Southern California (where they obviously live) to have access to 360 days of clear skys and sun a year AND that you park outside in a PERFECT AREA with full southwest facing sunlight all day. Even with that, when you fully use a charge, have fun waiting literally a week to charge it back up to full capacity... It's a toy like a motorcycle which already exist. Imagine the excuses in the future if we ever out of useless lockdown if you rely on this vehicle... You, calling boss: "Uhh, sorry I can't come into work for the next week" Boss: "Why not?" You: "I had to pick up my wife after work in my aptera and drove an extra 80 miles...so, yea...gotta wait for the sun to recharge since uhhh, I kinda banked on that based on the place I chose to live where I don't have access to a charger"
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 3 года назад
@@Dr.FeelsGood its a collectors item. You drive it once a week or show it off to people. Its not an everyday car.
@wineberryred
@wineberryred 3 года назад
I think you are discounting the look as being negative. I think many people will buy it because it looks distinctive.
@thetrip9970
@thetrip9970 3 года назад
its gotta be cool man
@Yahgiggle
@Yahgiggle 3 года назад
its a big negative, look at the Mitsubishi i-MiEV, people said when that thing came out that it would sell like hotcakes and i argued with them that it wouldn't do well as it was so bloody ugly, and we all know how that turned out don't we lol yep it was a massive flop, people want good looking cars, yeah some people might like these ugly little cars, but they will never do well, if you ask me they should be making them look more like a suzuki swift or mini or down that path if they want them to be successful, but as long as they do over 200 miles and the cost is not to much more than a ICE car of the same size and build quality.
@fenderstratguy
@fenderstratguy 3 года назад
Deon Hamilton Please...Dont EVEN try to compare this sleek bird to a butt ugly i-MiEV.
@epgui
@epgui 3 года назад
In my heart I want to agree with you, but I think you are underestimating how many people want to have the same house and the same garage and the same SUV and the same dog and the same pool and the same television as their neighbour. Social validation is incredibly and stupidly powerful.
@jayhuiting5748
@jayhuiting5748 3 года назад
I think they nailed it. To my senses there something classic about it.
@constantinosvorkas7532
@constantinosvorkas7532 3 года назад
Actually... the “p” must be pronounced. The word aptera is inspired by “apteron” which means “wingless”: a-pteron; the “a” denotes “lack of” and “pteron” is Ancient Greek for “wing”.
@marcagray
@marcagray 3 года назад
Scholarliness intensifies.
@dnsleu
@dnsleu 3 года назад
@@marcagray he s Greek. look at his name
@illdeletethismusic
@illdeletethismusic 3 года назад
so a road course racing version of it would be the Ptera
@jimstrom1934
@jimstrom1934 3 года назад
I immediately fell in love with the looks of Aptera, It doesn't look weird at all. Now, I've really had to strain to appreciate the Cybertruck. This one was easy!
@tlf50501
@tlf50501 3 года назад
I have had a hard time accepting a Cybertruck. I find myself accepting the Aptera much quicker. What bothers me is can you survive a crash in this car?
@TheJesusFreeke
@TheJesusFreeke 3 года назад
Safety is a major focus for them--you can learn more about the materials they use on their intro video--similar build to an F1 car.
@justinw1765
@justinw1765 3 года назад
@@tlf50501 Line it with some thick EVA foam in common impact areas, and that will help a lot as well as whatever they build into the vehicle.
@ccibinel
@ccibinel 2 года назад
Width is kinda a problem (functional not cosmetic) for Europe. 2M (current european regs) is unrealistic - hoping they stupid rules because 4 wheels can be 2.58. Active suspension to narrow the width when parking would be super useful as an option in cities or in these markets. Where I live I can work with the width but it is a challenge. For bigger small family cars they should take inspiration from the bionic concept / box fish.
@dmmcdow
@dmmcdow 3 года назад
People keep saying that the APTERA does not look good. The first thing that I thought was, what a great looking ride, and I can’t wait to get mine. By the way I will be 82 next month😆
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 3 года назад
Congrats. Hope you have "experience a self driving car" on your bucket list. I certainly do
@maclacey1520
@maclacey1520 3 года назад
Honestly I wish Tesla had a small solar panel to offset phantom drain, any range increase would just be a bonus
@LOGICALMAGNET
@LOGICALMAGNET 3 года назад
The cost's will just increase and no one want's that
@steveholliday1599
@steveholliday1599 3 года назад
Would probably add extra weight (panel and converter), which impacts efficiency, so you'd lose your extra miles. And - costs would increase too and so you'd pay more. Probably not ever get a return on that extra cost.
@Eggs4ckley
@Eggs4ckley 3 года назад
the glass roof
@sin_fc3822
@sin_fc3822 3 года назад
I feel like id buy this in australia. I would literally never have to charge, be a perfect commute car. I heard they were looking at 4 wheel, 4 seater version in the future. If so thatll definately be coming home with me even if it is less efficient version. Its unique look just adds to the appeal.
@David-lr2vi
@David-lr2vi 3 года назад
Yeah. I’m in Australia and this would be on my buy list. Advantage here in Australia is it will charge twice as quick too on a standard outlet!
@hardcoreclassicenjoyer
@hardcoreclassicenjoyer 3 года назад
For australia, considering how high the prices of tesla are and import costs cos of luxury vehicle tax, would be interesting to see how this one goes
@David-lr2vi
@David-lr2vi 3 года назад
@@hardcoreclassicenjoyer Luxury car tax only kicks in at $77k for EVs. We will still pay top dollar though. The Tesla 3 should only be a bit over $40k here based on the current exchange rate but instead it’s $66k. If they sold the Tesla 3 here for around $45k (extra $5k for compliance etc) they would be selling shit tons of them.
@robertthomas2673
@robertthomas2673 3 года назад
@@David-lr2vi good point..As an American in Oz I thought I understood a little “Protectionism” when Holden still made cars. All imports seemed unaccountably expensive compared to what the same car sells for in the USA. Now ALL cars are imported and the cars are still more expensive. Australia is a wealthy country and I don’t think Australians realize they are getting ripped off, presumably by the government with import duties. Understandable given the current climate change denying government in the pocket of big (foreign!) coal. Tesla built hornsdale in south Australia which has opened some eyes here and, after the fires last year and the droughts and the Great Barrier Reef dying before our eyes, Australians are waking up to the fact that they live on the frontier of climate change. Solar/wind are plentiful here and lots of local governments are at least beginning to offer solar rebates again. BEV’S should be given preference as part of the solution to the bigger problem and not taxed out of existence. Hopefully a Biden US administration will re commit to this issue and some meaningful progress can begin from the biggest economy in the world. Low cost modern liquid salt nuclear is an attractive option for the big projects like terra forming the outback.
@David-lr2vi
@David-lr2vi 3 года назад
@@robertthomas2673 It’s not really taxes that are the problem. Cars come into Australia tax free provided they are below the luxury car tax thresholds ($68k for normal vehicles and $77k for fuel efficient vehicles) and the purchaser just pays 10% GST and state stamp duty taxes. The problem is it’s basically too difficult to import cars to here because the government makes compliance as difficult as possible (and personal imports are restricted). This was done to protect the local car manufacturers but now they don’t exist anymore there’s no reason for the protection racket to be there. For example all cars sold here by major cars importers have to have their own ANCAP crash compliance done and have to comply to Australian design rules. This is stupid for a small country that doesn’t make its own cars anymore and should be changed to a bigger standard (EU or US compliance), that way any vehicle can be imported provided its right hand drive and compliant with a large international standard. The government was supposed to get rid of the restrictions on personal imports once local manufacturing ceased so anyone could import their own vehicle provided it complied to current EU or US standards. The new car importers union/lobby group didn’t like this idea because then they couldn’t gouge Australian customers blind on new cars so the promise (they even had a press conference announcing it was happening) was quietly dropped. Let’s face it, it’s not in the best interests of the government to see us pay less for anything as this reduces the amount of GST they get and also has the perverse side effect of lowering GDP growth which makes them look bad. They try their hardest to prop up any cartel that wants to gouge Australians as the corporations and the government are both on the same side (against us)!
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 года назад
Wonderful, wonderful. Wonderful squared! We have owned and maintained 40+ cars and trucks for over 40 years. Currently we have a 12 wheel Peterbilt roll-off platform for machinery moving. Had lots of motorcycles too. We know auto-mechanics! However this Aptera takes the cake AND the brass ring too....for economic, applied aerodynamic ergonomics for human transport, and some charging by sunpower to boot! What's not to drool over? I'm signing up!
@yanngouriou5115
@yanngouriou5115 3 года назад
The most important thing's that we learned is Munroe Associates is involved in the production process, better chance to see a production Aptera on the road and near the price announce!
@jpvdl9312
@jpvdl9312 3 года назад
When I heard Sandy was part of the gang I was sold.
@MsMiiSuki
@MsMiiSuki 3 года назад
Yes.
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 3 года назад
Same here. I am thinking of putting a second deposit.
@jpvdl9312
@jpvdl9312 3 года назад
@@635574 Yes, gyro/car, great concept. Probably bound to stay niche because of the pilot license constraint tho.
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 3 года назад
@@635574 I have been following for years. Theoretically the price could be drastically lower.
@theultimatenewplayer9341
@theultimatenewplayer9341 3 года назад
I hope it's successful. I want to be able to look back in 20 or 30 years and realize all the cars in 2050 are completely different from the cars in the early 2000s.
@OptimalShot
@OptimalShot 3 года назад
it looks like a plane had a kid with a 3 wheel motorcycle. i like it
@bujin5455
@bujin5455 3 года назад
Pre-ordered mine with your referral code! Wishing all the best for Aptera!
@MarkLLawrence
@MarkLLawrence 3 года назад
So glad you guys covered Aptera. I've been following them since 2006 and was one of the investors in 2019 that helped them come back. Looking forward to getting an Aptera myself. My driveway is going to be the only non-boring driveway in my neighborhood with an Aptera and a Cybertruck side by side.
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 3 года назад
This is a follow up to my last point, the drag on a car is minuscule below 50 mph. The predominate issue is tire friction. That being said, if you are driving to work in this every day on surface streets, then you completely killed utility due to the tear drop shape for no gain at all in aerodynamics. This is likely why the BMW car - made for city use - did not compromise on internal utility. You are not going 60mph driving inside the city. BMW is not stupid. They are heavy into formula 1 racing. They know EXACTLY about aerodynamics. This is fundamentally why it has skinny tires.
@TitoRigatoni
@TitoRigatoni 3 года назад
That is not true at all; drag on a car is significant at 30 mph and increases with the square of the velocity. It is *very* significant at 50 mph.
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 3 года назад
​@@TitoRigatoni Rolling resistance on a car, the example is a Telsa Model 3: 441 Newtons source: www.engineeringtoolbox.com/rolling-friction-resistance-d_1303.html Aerodynamic drag on same car at 55mph: 217N source: www.engineeringtoolbox.com/drag-coefficient-d_627.html This example was at 90km/r (55mph) way faster than the 30 I claimed. You were saying? Doing the math will give you a better understanding at the forces at play than speculating in RU-vid comments. Engineering has many non-intuitive answers that can only be solved via math. The Engineers at BMW are not stupid. They did the math, and they put small tires on the car and retained its *utility* to hold four people and drive around a typical European city for distance requirements. You cannot store anything of practical nature in this apreta, it is 100% for only commuting. I cant take this for even a quick run to home depot and grab a 2x4. I *have* put a 6' long 2x4 into my Mazda 3 hatch (and a lot of other crap) and got real utility out of the vehicle. This is why I reiterate, this is a *very expensive proposition* for a car that only can be used, realistically, for going to work and back and nothing else. In a Tesla, I could put boxes and all sorts of crap in the back with the rear seats folded down (if they did fold down). My main gripe is that this car is extremely niche in its use cases. End note: it is possible, at their weight, and tire size, that their cross over point between aerodynamic drag and rolling friction is at a lower speed of 30mph for the aperta. I can see that, similar to the cross over point of 10mph for road bicycles. But that is coming at a heft expense of sacrificing a lot of utility. This is exactly like being in a two seat small aircraft. They reduce frontal area of the fuselage by making it narrow. I can see this seating being shoulder to shoulder with your passenger to narrow the teardrop frontal area as much as possible. Hopefully that is not the case, because that will get old fast. I can see this car being very fun to drive because it will be very might like sitting in the cockpit of a small plane. It will be a lot of fun and a great alternative to a motorcycle because it's a lot safer. So you could grab a lot of people who are unwilling to take the risks on a motorcycle even though they really want to ride one.
@TitoRigatoni
@TitoRigatoni 3 года назад
@@cabdolla I am not discounting rolling resistance, it's one of the reasons the Aptera has three wheels. It will have significantly less rolling resistance than a Tesla as well as significantly less drag. This car is bigger than you seem to think. It is not "shoulder to shoulder" It is a comfortable two seat cockpit. And it has 25 cu ft of cargo capacity, which is more than a Tesla model 3 and about the same as a Model S. The sleek design makes it appear small in photos and videos, but when you see the Aptera in real life you will be surprised at what a substantial car it actually is.
@cabdolla
@cabdolla 3 года назад
@@TitoRigatoni if they have sandy Monroe helping them, they are in good hands for sure
@jpcolindesign517
@jpcolindesign517 3 года назад
The appearance and shape of the vehicle will have negligible impact on sales. The big question is whether or not this will make it to delivery. If it does, it will find a niche among EVs.
@roblastem2905
@roblastem2905 3 года назад
The Aptera will be one of the most significant & important vehicles in automobile history. Super efficient and (mostly)self-sustaining. It will quickly make all other EVs without similar attributes completely obsolete.
@Bluelightning23
@Bluelightning23 Год назад
Now what would that range look like if you built one to carry 4 people and luggage like midsize four door sedan?
@itsajeepthing82
@itsajeepthing82 3 года назад
I am 100% in on Aptera, i love the design and am dying to see them come to market . In My dreams My driveway has an Aptera parked next to my Cybertruck ;)
@BTSflyer
@BTSflyer 3 года назад
Right on, me too!!!
@krebul
@krebul 3 года назад
I can't see myself driving a car like this. But this is the sort of comment I am looking for when deciding the feasibility as an investment. I guess some people will love it.
@nycameleon
@nycameleon 3 года назад
Great for highschool kids to do sports and get home, by the time my kids get to HS one of these with 100mile range would be smart
@play_ground_zero
@play_ground_zero 3 года назад
Exactly the line up I'd go for
@linjyewang
@linjyewang 3 года назад
Are you me?
@joshuaknight1748
@joshuaknight1748 3 года назад
Well done everyone! I’m an engineer and obsessed with form following function. I would buy one of these in a heartbeat. If you focus group design a car, you always end up with a compromise. It’s worth remembering that VW did this with the XL1, but it was £100k design exercise.
@astrolightsadventures4677
@astrolightsadventures4677 3 года назад
Honestly I love the way the thing looks it’s this futuristic tear drop coup and that’s dope
@bripayton3723
@bripayton3723 3 года назад
Would like to see how safe it is in a crash .
@irongoose3865
@irongoose3865 3 года назад
I think the way it looks answers that question. Can you say motorcycle?
@coomercommander2554
@coomercommander2554 3 года назад
@@irongoose3865 motorcycle can whitstand a poke from an dull pencil, that thing can't
@jonsstuff760
@jonsstuff760 3 года назад
Formula one cars look similarly vulnerable, very lightweight, yet 200mph powerful and pretty safe in high-speed crashes. These people know they don’t stand a chance if they don’t comply with crash testing legislation around the world. They will surely have this covered
@ic3dragons223
@ic3dragons223 3 года назад
Seems alot safer than a smart fortwo and those tiny cars sold like hotcakes for awhile. Still the smart fortwo had a Mercedes class safety chassis so it was like a very hard bouncy egg. Still you have vehicles like a polaris slingshot that would be cool or mini trucks that were 3 wheels (asian vehicles, Mazda etc)
@iowa_don
@iowa_don 3 года назад
@@jonsstuff760 Yeah, they are "covered" because as a motorcycle they don't have to meet car crash regs.
@captkirkoakes
@captkirkoakes 3 года назад
I like the design. It’s an airplane body without wings and a vertical stabilizer. I love it.
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 3 года назад
I see a vertical stabilizer. It is the rear wheel shroud. I think it is necessary.
@yuxanne.
@yuxanne. 3 года назад
@@cookiedough5374 the design honestly throws me off, yah sure it looks cool, but imo it looks funny
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 3 года назад
@@yuxanne. I agree. When your cost to operate your car is close to zero it will start to look really, really cool.
@yuxanne.
@yuxanne. 3 года назад
@@cookiedough5374 if operational costs are that low, you'd have to be stupid to not get yourself said car
@cookiedough5374
@cookiedough5374 3 года назад
@@yuxanne. I’ve been called a dumbarse plenty of times. In this case my deposit on one will hopefully manifest as an Aptera.
@carl1095
@carl1095 3 года назад
This is the EV I'd choose (the 1000mile version) out of all the EVs available right now If I had the money and it was available in my country.
@dvfreelancer
@dvfreelancer 3 года назад
If Aptera is delivering vehicles when we're ready to buy, it's going to be a tough call. I've been in love with the design, even in the old days when it was a hybrid.
@venomguysydney
@venomguysydney 2 года назад
1000% Visionary vs every other box like automakers, including Tesla , I really hope we see this type of innovation continue. It's also interesting to note the rising cost of electricity in most countries so a car that can recharge without the grid even more attractive.
@joewilder
@joewilder 3 года назад
It's ok to look different. Witness Cybertruck.
@MsMiiSuki
@MsMiiSuki 3 года назад
Witness Me!!!!!
@chaunceyfeatherstone2142
@chaunceyfeatherstone2142 3 года назад
I like everything about Cybertruck. I could even get over its "look'. But as a farmer and a tradesman, I need practicality. I only need a single cab that I can wash out with a garden hose. I do need a an eight foot box. As it stands, I couldn't see myself buying any of the EV trucks out there due to either cost or lack of practicality. Aptera is different though, in that it is a commuter vehicle -- a grocery getter. It fulfils these requirements quite nicely. I hope it doesn't follow Betamax into the bin.
@livingstonlondon9860
@livingstonlondon9860 3 года назад
Gas car companies must be going crazy right now.
@sin_fc3822
@sin_fc3822 3 года назад
They got a few decades to rewrite their business models.
@brownfamily67
@brownfamily67 3 года назад
No, they are just making EV’s and some very good ones.
@AdventurousJohn
@AdventurousJohn 3 года назад
But - they are not. Look at Toyota - "in 50 years, electric cars may be half of the market" They are using linear extrapolation for the growth, and feeling WAY too safe. In the meantime, Tesla will go from 2 factories with a half million cars this year to 4 factories with about a million cars next year... Thats exponential - not linear.
@brownfamily67
@brownfamily67 3 года назад
@@AdventurousJohn Yes , but Toyota sold 10 million cars last year and the global car market is 70 million. The world can’t charge that many EV vehicles yet, so the ICE manufactures are keeping us mobile and making some profit whilst relatively tiny Tesla grow. When the time comes the ICE guys will switch it’s starting to happen.
@macrumpton
@macrumpton 3 года назад
Crazy like an ostrich, head in the sand, saying over and over "nothing to see, nothing to worry about".
@MrFarkasOfficial
@MrFarkasOfficial 3 года назад
i'd love to see more diversity in vehicles on the street so this has my support :D
@rscaht
@rscaht 2 года назад
It looks great , I like It so much ! I would like to have an Aptera for my weekly trip from Milan to Tuscany i am sure Leonardo da Vinci's land would greatly appreciate its hyper-efficient design. I remember that Leonardo was the first to understand that friction is the most important obstacle to overcome in order to be able to build functioning machines.
@thesparetimephysicist9462
@thesparetimephysicist9462 3 года назад
correction: 34k gives you 600 miles not 400. You can get that one for 30k.
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 3 года назад
Ah yes. On New Years Day too. HNY to you. Just while I'm waiting for dinner to cook; enjoying a cocktail [ok, several], and you guys [inc Brent and Bobby] put in the effort to keep with the In-Depth series. It's appreciated. 👍
@enriquegentry5629
@enriquegentry5629 3 года назад
the efficiency is what makes me want this thing
@Enmesharra92
@Enmesharra92 3 года назад
We’d now entered the Jetson era. I remember watching the Jetson cartoons some decades back and wondering if cars like this would ever exist in my lifetime. Not only did this come true. I can actually buy one.
@edwinkubena9944
@edwinkubena9944 3 года назад
We have entered the apocalypse era
@davidcostello4545
@davidcostello4545 3 года назад
Age of AQUARIUS things is just starting
@Enmesharra92
@Enmesharra92 3 года назад
More like the Muskism era. :-)
@ijrlij
@ijrlij 3 года назад
They should take this and do the nikola challenge rolling down that hill in Nevada. Would beat the model 3 record.
@walkeren
@walkeren 3 года назад
I live in SD and have seen them on the road, thinking what kind of Arcimoto is that? Now I know! Some might find the Aptera ugly; not me. I think it’s exciting and truly representative of our 21st “new century” disruptive space age.
@cmorr72
@cmorr72 2 года назад
Total game changer. I bet they can do a 4 seater and still be efficient beyond the most efficient other EVs.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 года назад
The 2nd vehicle they produce is likely to be a 4 wheel 5 passenger sedan.
@7milejog
@7milejog 3 года назад
I’m on board with this company. Definitely investing in this SEV
@mwebazerichard4510
@mwebazerichard4510 3 года назад
shoutouts from Uganda Africa. I think its quite low so you may need to consider an option for lifting the car incase of big humps or rather large pit holes. but I would so love to have one its such an innovative kind
@yonseienglish
@yonseienglish 3 года назад
I was disappointed that the elephant in the room of **safety** was not addressed in this video.
@Veebat
@Veebat 3 года назад
Aptera admits they have yet to test one yet, but they are hopeful. The original gas aptera had a roof crush rating much higher than most cars on the market. I know they are incorporating airbags, which far surpasses the requirements set in the US for autocycles. Many of the other tadpole trikes Sandy Munroe is a consultant for are using a new lap belt airbag that may prove better than traditional airbags. I also wonder if the high strength light weight design will reduce the kinetic forces we are used to with metal cars. These are all just wishful thinking as nothing has been tested yet, but I like to be hopeful too.
@AlanG.169
@AlanG.169 3 года назад
I IMAGINE it behaving in a wreck, similar to a punted football...
@User24x
@User24x 3 года назад
Weight is about 2k lb vs 3k-5k Range of cars to trucks/vans on the road... So that means it will be unsafer technically. But not a huge issue in the sense that we all don't drive trucks for safety... As for crash safety, let's hope it's safe. If not safe, then all the improvements they offer don't matter. Then again, it is technically a motorcycle in terms of classification, so it will be safe than all the vehicles in it's weight & category at best...
@JheregCG60
@JheregCG60 3 года назад
Spot on, this will have the same "safety rating" as those trikes....which is to say you are dead if anything touches you or you touch anything else.
@JheregCG60
@JheregCG60 3 года назад
@@w0ttheh3ll We will see when it gets tested, just not enough structure and airbags are not a cure for lack of crumple zones and structure.
@julianlsproduction6319
@julianlsproduction6319 3 года назад
I’d hate to get into an accident in this thing lol
@howetyr
@howetyr 3 года назад
I’m with you. Love the look (I’m a lane guy). But I do worry about crashability.
@robertwoodliff2536
@robertwoodliff2536 3 года назад
Egg shapes are strong.
@janosistvan5226
@janosistvan5226 2 года назад
I love the look of the Aptera; It's so futuristic functional. People are scared of change and therefore won't think out of the box. Even Tesla is guilty of that to a minute degree when it comes to body design and solar options. Honestly if you are going to be progressive in EV/green industry then you can't limit yourself. After all the sun power is free even on a cloudy day and who would turn down a free meal when they're hungry? Personally, I still like the idea of a hybrid gas engine rear wheel option even if it's just to get you home for one reason or another. But that's just me. The best options in any vehicle are Affordability, Comfort, Reliability, Inexpensive maintenance and of course mileage. in this day and age Purchase Cost, let's not forget why VW and Honda really made it in the competitive energy business market their affordability and just barely. Volkswagens cost $1200+/- and if you bought a Cadillac, they gave you a free Honda Civic. LOL Truly...
@GoTellJesusSaves
@GoTellJesusSaves Год назад
This is the car the world has been waiting for. Simple. Clean. Efficient. Self fueling. Elegant. Beautiful. Low cost. Though I know nothing on earth is perfect, this is a huge leap in the right direction.
@fredericakarcay8943
@fredericakarcay8943 3 года назад
I love the design. So futuristic.
@jtjames79
@jtjames79 3 года назад
I bought their stock. I can't afford one, yet. See a lot of directions they could go with it to improve. Like an Aptera, with Tesla self-driving, and SpaceX package, active suspension, and arero. I want to use mine to jump the Grand Canyon.
@OH-sv9hk
@OH-sv9hk 3 года назад
Stability & Crash Compaction? The “Mr Bean” wheel rollover silliness associated with a 3-wheel tricycle car! And, when my wife swerved to prevent a head on in her Toyota Highlander and saved a life before hitting a guard rail at speed and popping air bags, but she came through fine (the Highlander was repairable from front and rear wheel damage)! As a licensed airline transport pilot, these affect me much more than the very pleasing, but wierd, aerodynamic look. A dear friend built an experimental Rutan Long-EZ experimental aircraft, and I got to fly it and appreciate its incredible speed and range due to its clean aerodynamics. He introduced me to the Aptera car in the early days; he was looking to purchase before it fell apart in its 1st incarnation. I was very favorably impressed then and still am! BUT, my fears that need to be addressed are STABILITY & CRASH! SANDY MUNRO does a good job of addressing these issues. Please address these issues too. The Stability vs 4-wheels seems solved with low center of gravity, triple motors, and smart suspension: controlled by miniaturized accelerometers & gyro-sensors as in modern cell phones, i.e. no more Mr Bean silliness. The crash worthiness still plagues me with concern? I’m am 74 and still drive motorcycles. I had only motorcycles in college years; like so many I had a few close calls (near death) my 1st year on a motorcycling. The big lesson is massive amounts of paying attention (with absolutely no lapse in attention) while driving can and does work to keep you safe! The thing that AI full self driving (FSD) does is have MANICAL paying complete good attention to just driving safely! I’m in line for a FSD Cybertruck, and would like to replace a 2nd car in the family with an Aptera, but I’m still concerned about Crash Avoidance & Worthiness being sufficient. Here again Munro has begun to addresses this, but F=ma (Force = mass times acceleration) and when “m” is big, and everything else on the road is a big “m” pig, and your “m” is small . . . Hum? Modern crashworthy designs with crush zones do an excellent job of dealing with this, but I need convincing about wether the software and AI driving assist features have the necessary avoidance capability to make up for the little “m”. I believe many people pay attention to, and trust the facts of science and the need for form to follow function, and see beauty in that. Given a little time, the money saving power of efficiency Will win; the bean counters will have their way - as they usually pay the bills, they should. With modern engineering I believe the specter of poor stability is solved - Stability is on par with four wheeled vehicles. I believe the specter of crash worthiness is primarily dealt with high quality FSD or at least Driver Assist Capabilities to maintain required vigilance (As well as novel airbag, crush zones, & materials).
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
Great, informed comments. There is a discussion forum on Reddit at r/ApteraMotors that will always have the latest info.
@kkobayashi1
@kkobayashi1 3 года назад
The tippy "Mr Bean" 3 wheel cars have 2 rear wheels. The Aptera has 2 front wheels. This makes a world of difference, because cornering force is towards the front.
@prescottbates3166
@prescottbates3166 3 года назад
Absolutely love this concept! The ingenuity incorporated into it is amazing. I do however have a problem with calling it a car. A lot of the weight savings are due to this technically being a trike (motorcycle), and not having the same regulatory requirements of a car. That said, this kind of aggressive counterculture thinking will push the industry in and the market into a more sustainable direction.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
It is still designed to and will be tested to full automotive crash test standards.
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 года назад
Prescott Bates: Egggszakly..for design and concept. I wholly disagree about "only 3 wheels" though! America is in a rut, thinking it needs 4 wheels; a guy passes me yesterday- way Faster than the cars in traffic and, burns/ banks around the corner. Compact. Cheap. Low weight. 3 wheels? No. 2 wheels? Nope. ONE wheel! motorized, Incredible smooth and looking effortless...and inexpensive. (Ok, winter us different). But... The planet is overheating! We're doing it. Nothing could be better for us AND the world, than Aptera, when with it- often NO juice from the grid, is needed for an average trip! And that trip will burn Zero fossil fuels altogether!
@teriipearson5331
@teriipearson5331 2 года назад
Auto cycle.
@PhxElecAuto
@PhxElecAuto 3 года назад
I have the 400 mile Aptera on order. I'm big on efficiency and this car has that covered. I live in the Sunny Phoenix AZ area so the Solar will be perfect.
@batandball617
@batandball617 3 года назад
The USA government need to stop subsidies for oil and gas. But, the US economy is built on cheap subsidised gas so that’s not going to happen overnight. If gas was suddenly $9 per gallon, energy efficiency would be top of the agenda. Change will be slow, but we will get there.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
The trend will accelerate under the new Administration.
@johnbutterfield1855
@johnbutterfield1855 3 года назад
According to the book "Drawdown", the world-wide subsidies to fossil fuels (including what people and governments pay for healthcare costs caused by pollution) amount to $10 million per minute.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
@@johnbutterfield1855 A very apt comment. And people living in the poorest areas are paying the biggest part of the cost. This is the primary reason I am so passionately involved in Aptera and other ways to solve this issue.
@robertotrotta9073
@robertotrotta9073 3 года назад
In Western Europe we are not to far from that number, it is around 6.5 to 7 euros per gallon, some countries a bit less, some other a bit more, and it is because the prices have been slightly lower in the last year, but no major changes in reality, and the infrastructure still not easily available.
@davidkendall2272
@davidkendall2272 3 года назад
I was enamored with Aptera initially and was surprised that they floundered, but am happy to see them back and definitely think they have a product with a future.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
The only reason they floundered the first time is because they hired a CEO from Detroit as requested by their startup incubator. He decided he didn't want to build the production ready car, kicked the founders out of the company and then bet the future on a totally new 4 wheel design that required a DOE loan that never came through. They won't be making that mistake again.
@tylerdurden3347
@tylerdurden3347 3 года назад
I would ALWAYS want solar panels on my electric car. Absolutely free transportation of ANY distance is amazing. If I just let my car sit in the sun and I get free miles, *WOO HOO!* Especially relevant the higher the prices for gas and maintenance are.
@nagki
@nagki Год назад
You guys nailed it with this interview (still rest of the world hasn't got it and keeps building large boxes and ton of battery).
@jaybee3165
@jaybee3165 3 года назад
funny story- at first... my wife wanted model Y tutorials, I pulled up a bunch on youtube- I told her to watch you guys- she went for the girls doing tutorials, then 1 minute in.. she'd skip- and keep going "I don't want to hear about their feelings & preferences- JUST SHOW ME HOW TO USE THE TOUCH SCREEN!- then she finally saw Jesse's tutorial- and got hooked. lol. 'daddy's girl'.
@juliahello6673
@juliahello6673 3 года назад
How would anyone not like the looks of this vehicle? I think it’s a work of art. I already put a deposit down - too bad because I’d love a ride in the roadster.
@brucecampbell6133
@brucecampbell6133 3 года назад
"Another car company could have done this". But they didn't! They might have with similar vision, passion and dedication, etc......!
@brantleytinnin6258
@brantleytinnin6258 3 года назад
As a guy who has a family unfortunately this isn’t feasible.
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 3 года назад
Elon makes somewhat reasonably priced cars that look normal. Aptera might be a car company for novel cars, but it probably won't be a major brand of the cars on the road.
@winga-thing908
@winga-thing908 3 года назад
This was my thought as well, having 2 kids removed this car as a possibility. Maybe one day if they make a family friendly car they will reach a larger group of people
@randominternetguy3537
@randominternetguy3537 3 года назад
@@winga-thing908 if not, you'll have tesla. I bet they'll make cars that cost ~20k-30k within this decade
@messyl1900
@messyl1900 3 года назад
I think the car is great but, as a Canadian, how does it handle in Winter ? That is my 1st question.
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 года назад
I think that Elon's comment from a few years ago, that Solar on EVs is "Not that helpful, because the actual surface of the car is not that much, and cars are often inside. The least efficient place to put solar is on the car" will go down as one of his most erroneous calls. Every EV will incorporate some kind of solar into it by 2030. There are SO many benefits.
@kjer6071
@kjer6071 3 года назад
There are SO many benefits that in MY environment would be rendered of marginal value. Tree Sap, Pollen Season, Bird Poop, Shade Trees, Passenger Compartment at Ambient Temp, Rain and Snow to trudge through because...it might clear up later and so I left it OUTSIDE. He didn't say it was a bad idea; he said it was the least efficient place....
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 года назад
@@kjer6071 Passenger compartment temp IS a serious legitimate problem, I would have liked to hear the Aptera guys talk about that a little more. A solar assembly raised off the surface of the vehicle (like they do with resi-solar panels or air vents like with the Tesla solar roof) solve these problems but tend to look pretty wonky on a vehicle. And obviously if your car is parked inside all the time the benefits of solar are nil. Parking inside is more of an upper-class phenomenon though. In lower income households (the ones that are hardest pressed to afford electrification) a vast majority of vehicles are parked outside.
@DrewHaughton
@DrewHaughton 3 года назад
His comment was accurate for the time and it will be a while before there are 'significant' benefits. We are also looking at the payload with 2 vs 4+ people along with the footprint of said vehicle. It would be nice if people would just STOP saying 'Tesla competitor/killer'. We want all vehicles to go this route...
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions
@InnovativeSustainableSolutions 3 года назад
@@markbeiser Please, enlighten us humble fools, wandering in the dark of our ignorance. What did he mean? It really seems like a pretty straightforward comment.
@mleeriley3977
@mleeriley3977 2 года назад
May I comment that this vehicle is adorable. I think they ought to call it the Aptera "Penguin". When the VW Bug was introduced to the public in the 40s-50s people said it was ugly. They said no-one would want to buy it. Before 1970 there were thousands of them on the road. If the Aptera can get a battery that will charge to 100% in 15 min and go 1000 miles this car will devour the competition. Mainly because its very economical. The design is efficient and no, not everyone will like it, but then that's why there are so many cars to choose from. I love it. Solar? Well that's a pro. Con?. Is the company solid? They need to get the public to drive this car at shows and let them see the future. I never dreamt that in my lifetime I would actually see a "car of the future" for real! I'm 73 by the way.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 2 года назад
I am 72, and will be taking delivery of one of the first ones. 400 mile range, though. The current battery packs will charge at a rate of 500 miles per hour on a 50 kW DC fast charger - something I would rarely need except for trips.
@davidashe6532
@davidashe6532 2 года назад
I think this car is great. I am retired and just drive local for shopping and will purchase one when available. My awesome 14 mpg 1996 Chevy C2500HD ( just under 5000 lb in weight) would only be used for heavy cartage. With the 50 gal 2nd fuel tank it costs over $300 to fill up.
@ryanwolf7252
@ryanwolf7252 3 года назад
Function over Fashion all day, all year!
@vidad00
@vidad00 3 года назад
I ordered 1. Well see how it does
@loftsatsympaticodotc
@loftsatsympaticodotc 2 года назад
What do you mean, at 7:58, "40 miles is pretty close to an average commute." You imply that it as a good part of a typical commute, when in reality, you should be high fiving over the fact- the CEO JUST told us it is substantially OVER an average commute. PLEASE give the Aptera people FULL credit where due. It is truly amazing the amount of miles per day, that one can travel on direct sunpower alone! With a science degree, and 35 years of both ICE and electric vehicle experience, this new Aptera is an incredible people mover that SHOULD become as popular as Tesla!
@Loganl1980
@Loganl1980 Год назад
The Aptera is amazing. Besides the crazy efficiency, the right to repair is baked into it! The parts have QR codes that bring up videos on how to repair them.
@brownfamily67
@brownfamily67 3 года назад
Reading some of the comments, yes probably not a car for the snow . It’s not going to haul lumber out f the woods either. But in cities the snow doesn’t get deep so it would work all year round, For lots of other folks it could be an interesting and fun second car , and thats a bigger market than the super efficiency and EV Geeks!
@danmoyer4650
@danmoyer4650 3 года назад
As a Canadian who has driven through 57 winters and never owned a set of snow tires, I don't understand why some people take one look at the Aptera and conclude that it wouldn't be good in snow. Why not?
@brownfamily67
@brownfamily67 3 года назад
@@danmoyer4650 Those wheel covers and motors will pack with snow and ice and overnight will freeze solid. Good luck chipping that lot free -40C
@Kniffel101
@Kniffel101 3 года назад
36:57 So, hold up! He's saying they could use a 200kWh battery pack to travel 2000mi or 3200km on a single charge. That means by using a battery pack with 20kWh, smaller than the 1st generation Nissan LEAF, they can travel 200mi / 320km on a single charge. They'll easily be able to sell the cars at a low price with high margin! :O
@ccustoms5733
@ccustoms5733 3 года назад
That's exactly what makes this vehicle feasible.
@kkobayashi1
@kkobayashi1 3 года назад
He's just saying 200 kWh is enough energy to make the Aptera go 2000 miles. But yes, the cheapest ($26k) Aptera configuration does have a 20 kWh battery and claims a 200 mile range.
@richpate9436
@richpate9436 Год назад
I am impressed with the Aptera Company Mission Statement: “To design, build and deliver the most energy efficient vehicle possible.” The result is the closest “function = form” design I have ever seen in an EV, especially an affordable one. I just reserved one. Thanks Zac & Jesse.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 Год назад
Welcome aboard, Rich!
@johnedwards3621
@johnedwards3621 2 года назад
My desireable distance from previous trips (in a Saturn SW) was to see my daughter who had a free weekend [1,600 miles in 24hr including a brief nap. Then took my time driving home [2,000 miles going home.] A few days later, I drove to meat cove at Nova Scotia. Years earlier, while changing duty stations, I drove 2,100 miles (900 + 1,200mi in 47 hours in a Plymouth Valiant. (San Diego to Indianapolis).
@cerverg
@cerverg 3 года назад
If they use some supper efficient solar panels and put some on other empty spots like on the back window (the whole window could be one giant solar panel) they could pull off much more than 40 miles a day... it may even reach to the point (someday) where you get enough energy from the sun when driving - unlimited range as long as it's sunny.
@popefacto5945
@popefacto5945 3 года назад
They have an option ($600) to replace the back glass with solar cells. I'd think the full solar package (hood, roof, and back for $900) is what they're referring to when they say you can get 40 miles per day.
@kkobayashi1
@kkobayashi1 3 года назад
The 40 mile solar range is with the solar hatch, which replaces the rear window with solar panels.
@popefacto5945
@popefacto5945 3 года назад
@@kkobayashi1 I don't know why anyone would get the rear glass, frankly. Claustrophobia?
@james5460
@james5460 3 года назад
Tesla fanboys don't understand how important price is. Price is HUGE. If this is cheaper than Teslas and usually doesn't have to be charged and when it DOES need to be charged can be done with a simple extension cord from an ordinary outlet, it will sell.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 года назад
If it’s a decent EV then it will sell. Look at the Honda E, no real range, small boot but people buy it.
@DeanIsJesus
@DeanIsJesus 2 года назад
Guys, we don't ever need to put down anyone in order to push ourselves forward. Praise them for having taken the first step on the road before us. We are all equal players, each one of us helping our world move forward. 🌎🌄✨
@richh650
@richh650 2 года назад
Aptera is the vehicle that the world actually needs. I am so sick of the boring 5000-pound massive inefficient flat grilled SUV vehicles.
@Felix_353
@Felix_353 3 года назад
Efficiency grows exponentially
@LiiMuRi
@LiiMuRi 3 года назад
I wish a car like this would already be out and available here in Europe
@rayc6689
@rayc6689 3 года назад
Maybe Tesla will take some notes from Aptera and produce the model 2 .Then the model 2 will most definitely change the speed of transitioning to sustainable energy. :)
@ramblerandy2397
@ramblerandy2397 3 года назад
Well, there is the Sion from Sono Motors. Already covered well by NYK.
@Chamieiniibet
@Chamieiniibet 3 года назад
@@ramblerandy2397 and what does it have to do with Aptera?
@guydiehl7015
@guydiehl7015 2 года назад
FYI... My 2019 BMW i3 BEV on a good day will charge to 175 miles of range. In 2019 BMW upgraded the battery to 41 kWh. The i3 was truly an experiment for BMW.
@koenvanvlaenderen5568
@koenvanvlaenderen5568 3 года назад
Remove a component, remove a line of code, do more with less, I am also an electrical engineer and this is also my philosophy. Nature is efficient by nature, and mankind is slowly waking up to nature's intelligent potential. We have seen nothing yet (investigating ZPE to electric power conversion for 25 years now). Kudos to the Aptera team and Elaphe, I hope this car becomes street legal in Europe asap.
@JaxsonGalaxy
@JaxsonGalaxy 3 года назад
One word. Safety. If this car passes well on all the safety tests, I'll be on board. It's so easy for everyone to get excited about all the flashy or nerdy stuff, but just remember; the Tesla Model 3 is the safest car ever tested in all categories in both the US and EU. If I have a choice, I'll sacrifice efficiency for safety all day, everyday.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
I think this is wise. I would not be too surprised if the Aptera beats it, at least in some categories. We will find out before production starts.
@lorenzocriscuolo7869
@lorenzocriscuolo7869 3 года назад
No word on how this car does in our harsh Canadian winter conditions.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
Next winter there will be a production Aptera under test on Elaphe''s cold weather test track. The AWD version is likely to be very good with snow tires due to state of the art traction control.
@hughwaller6789
@hughwaller6789 3 года назад
Not all of Canada has snowy winters. On the west coast it will need efficient heat and windshield wipers.
@lorenzocriscuolo7869
@lorenzocriscuolo7869 3 года назад
@@hughwaller6789 In Montreal it can get pretty bad at times.As a matter of fact they are forecasting 15cms overnight.
@willaerley7140
@willaerley7140 3 года назад
Light weight and only 3 tires will make for a scary as f experience!
@dusty-vo8gh
@dusty-vo8gh 3 года назад
@@willaerley7140 2 front tires will track well in the snow ruts but that 3rd wheel is going to have a hard time deciding which one it wants to track in. Yikes.
@rusdhimohamad569
@rusdhimohamad569 3 года назад
We need more people like Aptera. The problem now is people take gas car design and stick an electric motor in it. That is the reason big car company will fail. An all electric need different design.
@G-performance1967
@G-performance1967 3 года назад
always a pleasure to hear Americans finally becoming aware of "efficiency" !! the same guys used to find normal to take any car with a 5,7L V8 to go buying bread or beers ( miles around (at 35 Mph ...)
@RikHeijmen
@RikHeijmen 3 года назад
I would love to have solar on my model 3, because when I leave it parked on the street (in winter) it looses 15 km's per day, just by sitting on the street. I hate to loose this energy.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
The Aptera only uses 100 watt hours to go 10 miles at EPA highway cycle speeds. This is much less than what the Model 3 requires, and is the reason that the 700 peak watts of the Aptera works so well. It would help the model 3, but not to the same extent.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 года назад
Do you have Sentry mode turned on? If it’s not necessary then the car can go to sleep which stops it losing range.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 года назад
@@n.brucenelson5920 100 wH per mile, not per 10 miles.
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
@@SirHackaL0t. Oh, you are so right! Thanks for the correction. Pesky decimal places, especially New Years morning. I will let your correction stand.
@SirHackaL0t.
@SirHackaL0t. 3 года назад
@@n.brucenelson5920 lol, no worries. Btw, you can edit your initial response to correct your figures. :)
@brianwaines7510
@brianwaines7510 3 года назад
A good example of a compliance car made without their heart in it is my Kia soul EV, which still offers to find the nearest gas station for me when my charge gets low. Did they forget to tell the software engineers that it cant use gas?
@Joe-lb8qn
@Joe-lb8qn 3 года назад
That's weird because my Kia Soul EV has a "locate stations" function which looks for chargers.
@pdx650
@pdx650 Год назад
I opted for Noir exterior, two motors, full solar package, 600 mile range, Vida interior. I like the unique look, I have a motorcycle endorsement already. So, that is not a problem. I like the efficiency of the shape and that helps increase the range the batteries can carry me. The solar charging option was paramount, and not having to pay for liquid fuel (gasoline) was the best part. $5/gallon in the Pacific Northwest for regular 87 octane is very annoying for 14 gallons on my ‘clown car’ (small econobox). Then there is oil to change, oil filter, air filter, alternator (PITY) for my car = back of engine out the bottom of the car). If all I am paying for are tires?!?! Really!?!? Is there any question why not to get one of these Apteras? No. Aside from me and one other person as a max occupancy, then I’m good. There are no worries there.
@Nitrotix1
@Nitrotix1 2 года назад
I really like the look of this. Also, the I3 deserves some credit. Using carbon fiber on a car like that is a big move and should be used by EV companies as well.
@skydivekrazy76
@skydivekrazy76 3 года назад
I think it's ugly. But I'd DEFINITELY buy it for all the benefits... And more important, invest in the company.
@lovropirkl2672
@lovropirkl2672 3 года назад
The tesla model 3/Y is uglyer.
@yvanpajevic9680
@yvanpajevic9680 3 года назад
DON'T! WAYYYYY too early! You're basically gambling at this point! This company is nowhere near ready to play in the big leagues. They're still basically just a startup with a great concept. There could be many practical reasons why they still won't succeed at scale. I would definitely keep my eye on them though! See if they survive and THEN think about buying in!
@holleey
@holleey 3 года назад
@@yvanpajevic9680 sure, but there's nothing wrong with investing early if you understand that it's basically gambling and you have money to spare. most important part is that you're well informed on the company, its concept & leadership resonates with you, and that you're in it for the long run.
@mitchdroberts
@mitchdroberts 3 года назад
Just put in a pre-order. Thanks for the great In Depth and the referral discount!
@tangandrewnyc
@tangandrewnyc 3 года назад
Two concerns here. First is how safe is this vehicle in crashes. Second is how safe is this vehicle in high winds...
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
Aptera has been tested stable in 110 mph side winds - much better than slab sided SUVs. There is little for wind to push against. Safety has been as big a design focus as efficiency. It will be crash tested to automotive standards before production begins and will do very well.
@Mystefier
@Mystefier 2 года назад
I love the look. There's plenty of things in the world for people that like conformity. I'm glad there's stuff like this for people like me that love change and love new esthetics. I wish i could be hitting the road with an Aptera tomorrow. It's smart and I love that it looks different.
@jaymenolan9628
@jaymenolan9628 3 года назад
What is the "5 star" safety rating on these?
@walkeren
@walkeren 3 года назад
I wondered the same. How many aptera can you balance on top of the aptera before the vehicle caves in?
@walkeren
@walkeren 3 года назад
@@bernardthedisappointedowl6938 thank you! I appreciate the description. Could you translate it for my more pedestrian understanding of safety? “ it’ll protect the occupants in crashes as well as a formula one vehicle(?)” “the lower center of mass means the car is less likely to flip.”
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
@@walkeren At least one military HumVee.
@walkeren
@walkeren 3 года назад
@@n.brucenelson5920 really!? It looks flimsy. I’m glad I’m learning more about them instead of jumping to conclusions ( hee hee, I almost wrote “convulsions”)
@n.brucenelson5920
@n.brucenelson5920 3 года назад
@@walkeren The original version was more than three times stronger in roof crush test than any previous vehicle tested up until that time, and this version is stronger, with more crush zones and far more developed design safety. The proof will be when crash testing is done on the pre-production vehicles shortly before they start shipping.
@stevewaclo167
@stevewaclo167 3 года назад
Safety, HVAC?
@usa-ev
@usa-ev 3 года назад
Sure wish an "In Depth" would have covered this.
@jameskleine4939
@jameskleine4939 2 года назад
I Like the Aptera since it’s first introduction. Was sad to see them disappear. Saw you video and I went to preorder the new Aptera and used the link to get the $30 discount. Aptera charged my card the full amount anyway even though the discount was indicated at time I entered purchase order. I have sent several email for weeks now and not a single response from Aptera. So I am losing confidence in this company. If customer service is so poor that they can’t even answer my emails than what kind of support can we expect after sale if they even cam come through with that.
@archangel3237
@archangel3237 2 года назад
Thats funny, I had an issue yesterday and joined the live chat, I was talking to someone within a minute, his name was Dave. He currently runs the whole contact department by himself. Try the live chat, pretty sure it goes right to his cellphone.
@MilesCobbett
@MilesCobbett 2 года назад
Like Lotus Racing car company owner Colin Chapman said, to go faster add lightness not horsepower
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