I agree with treating a coach with respect, but it's a two-way street. There are too many teachers and coaches who think that belittling someone over their inexperience or their mistakes is acceptable behaviour. By all means, correct my form, great, help me learn. Public humiliation, however, is really not OK.
Anyone who behaved in the way you describe is simply a moron and NOT a coach. A coach will guide and support their archers giving praise whenever they can and NEVER simply criticise or belittle.
Same for teachers in general. One time I didn't add certain information on a project and my teacher saw that and purposely asked me to go first. Obviously I embarrassed myself in front of my class and this was in the beginning of the school year. After that I hated his guts and honestly couldn't learn anything from him.
As i Read what you wrote, i feel something really wrong... In my opinion, even someone who has training certificates or diplomas will never be a coach with this kind of behavior... Teaching something, needs you to want to teach it. It mean that you have to be kindly toward your students, and really want them to improve. I dont have any training diploma (because im not OK with the vision of the WA in my country), but i practice for 17years now, i learn how to teach from my coach by helping him with kids. Teaching is a matter of passion and desire, seing in everyone the better they could be. I always found good points or improvement on someone to tell that it's good and there is potential to do better. Belittle someone is really the opposite of what a teacher must do. I dont tell you cant put a someone at his place when he tries to be a smartass, but come on...
I yeach all of my students a magic phrase when others offer "suggestions. It is "Thanks for the advice I will tell my coach the next time I see him/her." This is especially important for young archers who can be perceived as being anti-social if they don't immediately take the advice of an adult. I urge them to write down that advice and bring it to their next lesson (or email about it) for discussion. It may be good advice. Too often, though, it is misguided because it deflects the archer from working on what has been determined to be the most important thing to be working on now. I also suggest that it is probably wise to listen to your teachers more when you are close to the beginning of a study and then listen to yourself more as you become more knowledgeable. (I gave this advice to my students when I was a school teacher.) I also have a principle of coaching, that since it is an individual sport, I want the athlete to make all of their own decisions. That means they have complete "buy in" and are not just doing things their coach wants them to do. If I find an athlete who goes against my advice consistently, I suggest they get another coach as I am not helping.
love my coaches, the most memorable one was a guy who when I switched to a back tension release taught me to shoot it. I picked up by habits but he set the straight by one giving me examples of how to do it. I watched him shoot the several different types ways. then when I still was not yet over the hump and in a pretty big hole he would stand right next to me on the line and tell me what to do before a drew my bow. if I hesitated doing anything he immediately told me let down, if I set the release off the wrong way by rolling my wrist he would tell me. my favorite quote from him was " you know I'm just gonna keep telling you to do it and bugging you untill you do it, right?" great coach I learnt from. I've had many other coaches who helped me a lot but, he was the one who helped me out of one of the worst slumps I've ever been in.
Knighthunt A back tension release is not easy to learn... Plenty premature firings when I learned. I actually prefer an idex trigger rather than back tension or thumb trigger.
At the end of my previous lesson, I told my coach that my arrows tend to spread horizontally. Then he told me that I need to improve my Stance, Form, Grip, Anchor and Release. That is pretty much everything I guess.. I was thinking that my makeshift arrow rest was bad, or my string is not good, or I need to get a decent plunger. But it is actually everything to do with the technique. It took me some time to realize the real meaning of what he has told me.
In our archery school, I have followed the first two courses 7 years ago. And when I went recently to rejoin, all I wanted was to renew my membership and just shoot and have fun while improving myself by myself at my phase. But the management said that they have no records of me, and they can't let me shoot without following their first two classes. In the beginning I didn't agree with that because I have already followed the first two classes, "7 years ago".! But finally I got the membership and also paid for the first two courses. Now I have a wonderful coach, and everything about archery is so much better than I have previously envisioned for me on archery..
archers should take note of this video when I was a novice archer I use to shoot with a coach 3 times a week he got me up to master bowmen "they can see things that you can't"
ken shepherd I read that as I used to shoot a coach 3 times a week he got me up to master bowmen. I was like wtf you shot the coaches and became the head master bowmen because you dont have any competition. lol
Don’t worry I started archery and the coach is very new very he told me you are full of surprises, because I filled NU’s advice and I’m still a beginner and I’m doing well, but if you are scared then don’t be if you are looking forward to the sport you will eventually love it and be more dedicated to it, and you just have to believe,then you won’t be afraid even if your coach hates maybe because he wants you to get better he wants you to be on top of every one and become better, trust me that’s how archery olympians are trained (they are trained in horrible weather and horrible conditions and they are forced to play even if they have a fever, they shout at them they tell them their mistakes, not because they hate them but when they want to train people who will become champions and I bet that will be you in the future someday, JUST BELIEVE,AND It WILL COME true, “Success is the result of perfection,hard work,learning from failure,loyalty and presence” ~Colin Powell
I e-mailed a archery coach and told him I wanted to start learning archery. His advice was to come in after this whole Corona mess was over, because starting out on your own can get you stuck with wrong habits that are hard to get rid of. This sounded like real good advice. My question is: How do you recognise a good archery club? An when is it time to look around for other clubs if it doesn’t seem good enough to make progress?
A month later and still no lessons because of social distancing! I suppose archers are a tight community, but this is ridiculous. Who teaches there, Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio? She gonna have to breathe on the fletching of my arrow too each shot?
Thank you NUsensei You cover all Point this all reason really disturbing All Archery Coaches i share this video to my all Archers & Parents Thank you very much
As a new archer, I also want to give the feedback that not everyone learns the same way with the same expectations. Some of us also have different ways to learn and different behaviors, so it is extremely important that you and your coach are well alware of each others way to do the things. Not everyone is comfortable with being annoyed every single shoot for all the mistakes, sometimes we just need to focus on a big one first. Respect is a 2-way thing. And we have to be respectful with our coachs and they have to be respectful with us, both, personally and with our personal way of learning.
My Coach hates me sometimes, because I know better than him. I train sometimes with an Coach who works with the Olympic Team and he tells me what I do right or wrong. When I train at my local Club, then my Coach says that im doing it wrong althoug the "better" and more experienced Coach said im doing it right :(
I just know, that I know the technique sometimes better than him, because I train sometimes with the experienced Coach . He still knows almost everything better than me.
This is why I'm self teaching. I have the skills to understand and watch and Research archery I also have Patience. I mean a 1000 years ago people were self teaching all sorts of methods from the first man that created fire to the man that invented the computer. I've also bought my first bow not expensive but enough to do the basics had it a week but not used as I'm making sure I have the full understanding of handling and using a bow.
I am still a beginner of about half a year into archery. But I also have found a general mistake point: Forcing yourself to train. If you don't feel well, if you wake up with a tensed neck or headaches, it's best to skip shooting/training on this particular day. If you are aching, your form will be bad and your shooting likewise. You may hurt yourself and - depending on the shooting location - you even may lose arrows. Just be free to skip a day and go on the next one when you are rested. Don't pin yourself down with a too tightly fixed training schedule like "My shooting days are ONLY wednesday and sunday."
1) I learn from your videos alot and a few other RU-vidrs just to get multiple opinions ( Wich tend to be the same and strive to try all techniques, use what works best for me, throw out what doesn't work and adapt myself into it to make it work better. 2) I have a traditional horsebow ( no shelf) and use plastic vanes ( they shoot amazing) but I would like the feathers because I feel like the vanes are warping a bit to much, also need better glove because the one I have is blistering my fingers other than that I'm poor and can't afford these purchases XD. 3) I'm very open to trying everything that's recommended to see if it works better, if not then I throw it away and ignore it. If I'm at a public range I ask about something different I see, don't think anyone should criticize unless it's needed, like the form they are using is going to hurt them ECT, 4) I practice everyday I can and set up different practices to improve, and try to get at least 100 shots in, ( I was actually really sick this week and still wanted to go out and shoot lol ). 5) I agree, I really want to just move back to 40 yards and shoot to "say" I'm ready to go hunting but I know I gotta get the 20 yards, 30 yards and 35 yards down, where I'm confident I can hit my mark each time with minimal error ( 2-3 inches ) so I don't mistakenly shoot and wound the animal and not able to track it down or have it suffer, ( it's a very terrible feeling wounding an animal instead of instantly killing it even from being a hunter from child ) even with fire arms I make sure I'm 100% on everyshot if I have a bit of doubt, even it's it's 5 yards from me I'll never take the shot, Wich is why it's very important for me to hit these marks like I need to and lead up to my farther distances with accuracy and precision in every arrow sent. Much much more difficult than using firearms but that's why it's so much more enjoyable, it's a skill not many others can say they have, and a great feeling when you bring in a giant deer with a bow like they used thousands of years ago and these other people are taking easier shots with all the latest tech on a rifle. ( I know there's still some skill there but it's nothing comparable, even after shooting firarms for as long as I can remember
And YES !!! Training is SOOOOO important ! Me release still sucks for many reasons : wrong aiming process, clicker clicked too soon, thinking about my stupid release before shooting etc... but it gets better as training goes :D
I have chosen to not have a coach, partially for financial reasons, but partially also for my broken brain. I'm not that pleasant to be around, though I'm always working to be socially acceptable, and I don't like people telling me what to do. That doesn't mean I don't like to learn, I just have a different process of learning, and I want to make progress while it's still fun. So I look at tutorials and through scientific method try to filter out which mistakes I'm doing. Then I spend three or four hours trying to get decent groups and nice technique, observing myself, experimenting and taking data. Then I shoot at an old shoe for an hour because it's fun.
Monday and Friday are the only days I don't practice. My coach gets annoyed that I always want to try new techniques, when I don't really have to. If you find what works, stick with it and develop your skill with that before continually trying something different. What do they say, jack of all trades, master of none?
Dear NUSensei 先生 I enrolled in an archery course at my school and we only get to train once a week. I know that's not enough, but how can I train myself without my own bow? (apart from watching your videos of course) How can I motivate myself to do better? It has also been my dream to perform well enough to be selected for the school team. Could this be too....ambitious? Thanks!
Find a way to work archery into your daily routine. If you can't shoot regularly, use exercises that don't involve shooting. Use stretching bands. Do gym exercises. Use the bow for endurance training by holding it. The more you make it part of your life, the more motivated you will be.
I don't even have a bow, and I can see already how people can get conflicting advice when they search around for it. For example, should I shoot right-handed or left-handed? I'm right-hand and left-eye dominant, so the answer to that question depends on whom I ask. If you want to know what kind of recurve bow to buy, though, those Best Recurve Bow people have headed off this problem by getting their list posted under a dozen different domain names, giving one the impression that the superiority of the Samick Sage is universally acknowledged. Twelve different sites rated it #1! And it's affordable! Why would I buy anything else?
Yeah my coach knows exactly what I need. Especially when he didn't mention a finger protection and I walk around with numb finger for 3 weeks; that was especially uncomfortable as I use computer a lot at work. True, I was shooting a very weak bow, but still, not a single word about it.
i sometimes coach someone(not profesionally, jushelping out), and one thing i can get frustrted about if im explaining something and someone else comes and does it all over again, and why its important, and they ramble on about 5 minutes before leaving and the student is like wtf should i do now....
I started archery because it was cool. And then soon I realized that it makes my mind expand and trains to focus and allows to target at something, not only the literal target, but the target of perfect technique. It was back in 2009, and I followed the lessons for 2 months for every single weekend. Then I had some trouble with almost everything and had no mind to focus on a sport. Only last month I started back.
one thing that annoys my coach is that I dont hold the firm after shooting until the arrow hits the target, i let the bow down as soon as i shoot and the coach keeps nagging me about it lol
Hi NuSensei. I recently went back to use my leather glove. My coach gave me a tab and I felt, after three weeks of practice, that those two layers were making a game that twisted my shooting. My coach says, he will give me another tab, because the one I used before had too large leather strips. I would like to know: Besides the interdigit wall that prevents the fingers to touch or intervene with the arrow, What is the big deal with the Tab over the glove? Yes I saw your video about Tab differences.
I'll cover this in a future video. Basically, tabs offer a smoother surface that is usually easier to get a clean release from. Gloves conform to the shape of the hand, so it can be more comfortable and natural, but can punish poor finger coordination and pressure.
hey nusensei, looking to install a small stabilizer near the top limb pocket of my sage (similar to the one you have on your inno cxt) any advice on how to accomplish this? thanks- -Brett
Hi, NUSensei. i am an archer from Singapore :) i got a lot of knowledge from your video and i keep recommending your video to my junior archer so keep up the good work :). about my school coach knowing me more than other people, i kind of disagree on that as my school coach doesn't come often to coach us and he doesn't give me the feeling of motivation to keep on shooting or be in the sport (but still i am shooting as i like it) . on the other hand i have another coach outside but i don't see her as often as my school coach and she give me more motivation and she show a lot more encouragement to me even tho i not in her club. she also know more about me than my school coach despite that i seen her less than 3 time a month. it quite frustrating when he doesn't come regularly to guide my juniors, in fact my archer are lacking practice in order to guide my juniors. My question is , shouldn't a coach be active and supporting the archer in their progress to become a good archer in the future or even now ? tell me what you think. glad to hear from you your truly, ken
Yes, a good coach should be active in helping an archer progress. However, it's common for archers to not take it very seriously and show little sign of wanting to commit or improve, which in turn can demotivate coaches. This is especially the case in school environments, where is often about ensuring that students have a go rather than grow as archers. School coaches are different from club coaches in that they have to serve the interests of the school.
Thank for the quick reply i didn't expect it to be that fast. thanks for the explanation,NUSensei. this will help me in be more understanding towards my coach along with other coach who i may meet in the near future. thank you again :) i will continue watching your video as they are really helpful towards my path of become a great archer. hope you have a nice day :)
Nusensei im having a hard time using a sight on. my recurve can u recomend witch of your videos can help ive been with a club for a while and i atualy use tunning manal from archery Australia i found thats a revilation i shoot gr8 with out a sight but i cant seem to change ancherfrom my cheek to under my jaw and when i get frustrated with the sight i take it off to gain my confidence back
+Crash85 I don't know exactly why your having trouble with using your sight. I will recommend using your dominant eye(usually the one that is easier to close or ask a friend to help you conduct the triangle test). also check your form, anchor, and stance, consistency is key.
+becc12able its not that im with a club and day one on th beginer course we do that and have acsess to all aspects of archery targets up to 100y clout at 180 my bow is set up perfect i tune my bow well make my own arrows i just can get gr8 grouping at 30y but with a sight im lucky if i hit it!! as soon as i swich to a sight and change my ancher point it goes to plot and then i loose confidence and take it off i surpose my gole is say good scores at say 60y yard that irl never f get with out a sight i think its a cross beteen sight set up and ancher thats my problem plus my sight is worth about £5 (uk)
+Crash85 the cost of the sight is no problem. I had the same problem before. but I just went back to my fundamentals and I had to go to a lighter pound bow.(I'm from US BTW)just try to do the same with the sight included. a good help is to go thru NU sensai's vast playlist. it helped me a lot.
+Crash85 I just wanted to offer some quick encouragement. I shoot traditional barebow recurve, and have for over a decade. I consider myself to be a pretty decent shot, but even still, it is very hard for me to just pick up a sighted target recurve or compound and get any kind of accuracy at a distance through the sights. Going from instinctive shooting to sighted aiming isn't an automatic process. It changes *a lot* in terms of technique and form. It will take a little time for you to adapt to it and that is perfectly normal. Don't be discouraged because it isn't an immediate improvement. Keep using the sight consistently and training with it.
+renaissanceexodus thank you i will keep up with it irl just shoot with the sight for now i imagine flicking back and forth probaly isnt helping cheers
What about people who repeatedly fail to obey safety instructions? Different activity but I had someone like this in my dojo a while ago. Does this happen very often? What do you do in this situation?
I'm a fetus & I shoot a 220lb composite bow, Lars Anderson style, I mean what other way is there? Right? It's constructed of adamantium & Chuck Norris' chest hair glued together with an epoxy made by Chuck staring at some depleted uranium.
