Archery | Stabilizers - What's the Difference? 

Just wanted to say I really appreciate your channel. I am just getting into the sport and I have an experienced archer/coach who is helping me build a customized Olympic setup. Your videos have made it so I don't have to hit him up every time I have a question about unfamiliar gear. More importantly, your approach is informative, not insistent. It's educational without having to wade through forums that do more bickering about their preferences than they do informing folks of how to discern between gear for themselves. Much thanks.

The more I watch you the more I like your sense of humor. Thank you fir all your info...

I like this video a lot. I just got a Doinker Platinum set, 30" with side 12". I cannot wait to try it when my new target bow, that I ordered last week, Obsession Pheonix XL, comes in. Thanks for the plain talk. You give a lot of info in a short time.

Brilliant short summary of a complicated and confusing subject (for us new archers). Many Thanks, Nu.

I agree with you, actually. I use "stable" in a very broad sense that includes vibration and dampening, and by extension how well you can fine-tune balance. But otherwise, I push that cheap stabilisers are just as good and there's no real need for big spending on stabilisers. I only bought the Doinkers as a bit of a reward for myself :)

I like your video, great job! It was super informative and you're very good at explaining things. You clearly know what you're talking about!

I am new to the sport, and I really appreciate this video! Thank you for great explanation!

I have watched all your videos. Love it!! I don't even own a bow or shoot yet but you have inspired me. Good job my friend..

Thanks for this video! Very informative. I have now the challenge that I am shooting a hunting recurve and I think that I need some bigger weight (bows turns back a lot) but can't have a long stabilizer ...

Your archery videos are great!

I wondered about that as well, but realised that the Doinker Platniums have a solid plastic housing around the damper at the end.

This is really helpful. Thank you love ♥

Thank you for the excellent information!

Hey NUSensei. I have watched over 15video's so far from you and i really like that you did add some jokes this time. Other than that keep the tips coming ;)

Firstly, I don't use aluminum arrows, so I can't demonstrate. Secondly, while it's possible to do some crude repair by hand, you can find a special tool for it. Thirdly, aluminium arrows aren't really worth that much to repair. May as well get new ones, or get carbon arrows.

This intro AHAHAHAHAHAH

Well versed and very informative! Thank you

love the beginning :D

Thank you coach

I wonder when they come up with a gyroscope to be fitted to the riser - that should hold the bow dead straight. And when will NASA start to test recurve bows in zero gravity? :oD

The SF Axiom stabilizers actually come with dampeners and are in about $40

I was thinking about that actually, but they're not red :P I'm still using my extension, but once I find another one to replace my cheapie then I can get rid of it as well.

You channel is excellent. Thank you! Would you know anything about bow sims like fireline or burnie's panic sim. Is it a waste of money? Many thanks!

What do you think of the whole Shibuya caruno system? And when would you suggest getting a set of vbars?

Just got myself doinker estremo Stabalizers but how can i adjust the screw mount? i tried turning it with an allen key real hard but i still can't do anything

I'm looking into getting a stabilizer for my ILF recurve bow but I don't know what length to get. I tried my friends stabilizer which was 27" end to end with 8oz. of weight and it felt fine on my bow. Now does it matter that I have a 31" draw length? What do you recommend?

I wonder how those stabilizers compare to a sawed broomstick and a roll of steel washers.

the stabilizer set up is COMPLETELY personal preference

I just bought a used Beiter Centralizer long rod for $36 USD. ($38.60 in AUD) Described as 36" with three tuners and it looks like it has a weight adapter on the end. I plan to use it alone as my first stabiliser. It would have cost more if I bought a new, low-end rod.

You good man!

Thinking of RCX-100 riser, but with all these "MAX" in use I am unsure.

can you tell me the purpose of a short stabiliser on a compound bow which is attached to only one side of the bow

those are some fancy expensive Escrima sticks you got there

What are you thoughts on using side rods / vbar mounts that are different brand/model? I have a Platinum Hi-Mod long rod and I'm looking to get side rods soon, however it's about another $400+ for plat hi-mod side rods + adjustable v-bar mount. I'd much prefer to use a cheaper set of side rods without compromising performance. Thanks

Thanks this was very helpfull

helpful, thanks

I bought a complete Sebastian Flute stabiliser set for £99 on eBay, weights and dampeners included - looks like there ARE some bargains out there :o)

Hey NuSensei, Could you explain me a little bit more about vbar angles?

I cartel & 1 SF long rod, cheap, well worth the 30.00/ea! One question: why a dampened when (slo mo vids on YT) when arrow loose contact with rest half way past shaft, totally no contact for vibration from bow to influence arrow?

Sensei, what do you call the thing that is attached on top of the sight which looks like a small stabilizer. How does that work and what is the function of that accessory?

I want to ask if i can make my own stabilizer using some 18 / 22mm copper bars with heavy parts at the ends, does it need to be stiff or a bit flexible ?

WOW! Shibuya sight!

Thank you for the video. It was very useful. I'm about to buy my stabilizer system, and I'm not quite sure about which one should I choose. I know you recommend Doinker, I have some other options too, and I would like to hear your advise, and the reason. My options are (in order of price): W&W HMC Plus, Easton X10, Doinker Avancee, W&W HMC 22, Sebastian Flute Elite, Doinker Elite Supreme (the most expensive). I would really appreciate your help.

Anybody know how good is the stabilizers from Arc Systéme? The price of a complete set looks good.

When i shoot outdoor, I always hung a strip of thin cloth at the end of my stabilizer. I use this to measure wind speed and direction. You think this is allowed in the WA competition?

@Kumikaine : what is considered correct length and weigh distribution? which length is the best all for side rod, extender, and long rod?

I know this might be a slight hijacking, but what are the benefits of a top limb damper? I am wondering if getting one for my SF Axiom recurve.

What is the disadvantage bet. 10" or 12" side rod stabilizer?

The bow I'm currently using is an Optimo+ and recently, the effect of its light weight on my aim is becoming more and more apparent to me. Since switching to an ILF Setup with a heavier aluminum riser is still quite the investment for me, I was wondering if simply adding a basic stabiliser set to my current bow can help me get the additional weight I need. Should I go for it?

i am using a kaya k3 stabilizer on compound...some of my friends told me that it is a recurve stabilizer. will it work well on my compound bow if it is a recurve stabilizer??

Which is better? cartel dynamite, nexus, or maxion?

In fact there is high speed footage from Beiter showing the shock produced when releasing the arrow occures after the arrow left contact with the bow string. This means the shock will not affect the arrow in any way, no matter how strong it is. It leads to the conclusion a stabilizer only needs to add stability to the draw process using lenght and weight if needed as well as minimizing the muscle tremor when drawing the bow. Also, a thin stabilizer is much more resistant to wind blowing from the left or right side. For the moment I'm using the Beiter centralizer without weights attached to it. Having seen this video I might try some front and side weights in the future.

Hi I'm not sure if I missed it but could you do a video explaining about the limbs?

Im thinking to buy stabilizer. I need to buy on budget. I think i should get Axiom+ set, i have Axiom+ limbs and Axiom riser. Maybe it wil be ok?

Hello, i have a question about stabilisers. Im thinking of buying the SF Axiom plus complete stabiliser set from merlinarchery as my first stabiliser set. The stabilisers come with dampeners and one weight but since i will most likely need more weights to get the balance right i went looking for SF Axiom weights. I could not find any extra weight so im wondering if the weights are brand interchangeable so i can get extra weights for my stabilisers. Are there any SF Axiom plus weights or do i have to use stabiliser weights from other brands if thats even possible. This is my first time buying stabilisers so im sorry if this question is stupid but i need to know since a stabiliser where i cant costumise the weights are kind of useless to me.

Hello Sensei. What is your opinion of the new Wiawis Stabiliser system as compared to the HMC plus or HMC 22? How would you rank them?

hey sensei, can stabilizer for recurved bow is used for compound bow?

so at this date which stablizer gives good performance for hoyt formula risers with quttro limbs

What about those things with dampeners and weights sticking out of the top and bottom part of the riser before the tiller bolts? What do you call those? I recently tried emulating those "things" by grabbing one extra side bar with a dampener and screwing it on top of my riser (btw, I've upgraded to a proper Axiom+L now. Hurray me!). Needless to say, the extra weight and lesser vibration helped. The only problem I had that time was I didn't know what the hell I was doing lol! EDIT: Oh wait. I just rewatched the video and you already mentioned them. Haha! Never mind then! XD EDIT2: Although, it'd be nice to still know the purpose of those things as compared to the usual front and side stabilizers. =)

I'm hoping to get rise carbon blade stabilisers in July.

I'm currently using the Beiter stabilisers that I borrow from my coach, but I find them a bit on the heavy side and I'd like a set on my own (plus I'm terrified to break one of the small rods). I have the possibility of getting a set of Doinker Avancée for about 290 USD, but I'm not entirely sure??? Do anyone have any tips or ecperience with the Avancée stabs?

Great video! Would you be interested in selling your old v bars and extension?

I was thinking about that actually, but they're not red. I'm still using my extension, but once I find another one to replace my cheapie then I can get rid of it as well.

When I starting olympic archery, I tought stabilizer as a melee weapon... 😅

Hi NUSensei, question regarding stabilizers, will win win HMC 22 rods fit doinker v-bars? I could not find other v-bars that have an adjustable vertical angle ...

Hey, NUSensei! I just got my bow. I was wondering can I already have a stabiliser?

english longbow , a stick a string and a huge smile 😀🇬🇧

a bowquiver also acts a bit like a stabilizer i'd say

im getting a not so beginner set of beginner set (ATF25"+ premium-a limbs66"22LB + WS700 + beiter button + SuperRest + Revel28"

I don't shoot with a stabilizer and just practice in my back yard at 20meters. am I gonna suck?

Is there a reason to go for 17mm-diameter bars over larger diameters?

How long is your stableizer

Fuse taper x dont come with damper, and is very expensive...

«Whereas the high-end stabilizes tend to come in black or... black» :)

Wouldn't a much shorter, but more practical stabilizer (say 1ft long instead of like 3) work just as well if you had a lot more weight to it's end? It will counteract the draw raising as much, and presumably one with a bigger wight on the end would absorb more vibrations too?

Hi Newbie here. What currency are you using here?

So here is my beginner stabilizer system...you tell me if its good or not bro... For long rod I have a SF Axiom 28" (won by bidding on ebay..hell yea) Cartell V-bar + Cartel CR Carbon Extender side rods. Now they are not here so I do not know the weights and everything but I think the long rod has the damper. Give me some words brah....

thanks mate, very informative, I thought those sticks on the bow was for decorative purpose :). btw, you gain weight in 3 years, your bow can be human stabilized now lol, just kidding

I'll just build my own.

How do quick connects work and how well do they work?

Ok, ill have a look at the side bars on Saturday if that's ok with you.

Do you have the cheaper doinker vbar? Is there any play on it? I can wiggle my short rods around and it sucks, It's like the old tfc's built in to a vbar.

My dad is a handy man and I challenged him to make me a 21inch front bar and 12 inch side bar as I can't afford them

Could you in a later video demonstrate streightining an aluminium arrow this will be helpful !

were you holding your breath for this entire video my friend?

Bee Stinger XL Premiere Freestyles on sale at lancasterarchery for 43% off (130$) im getting one to replace my 30 year old oldschool stabilizer :)

long rods should be longer than your draw? whats the physics behinds this considering i could just add more weight instead? you said it makes sense but how? hunters get shorter ones, target shooters get longer ones, given circumstance. but whats the weight? lengthand weight compared to draw weight? a dampener compared to string silencers? and how long should it be compared to just adding a lot of weight on a shorter one?? and what do the side bars do? balance is understandable. isnt there just a cookie cutter thing? do this and youll figure it out? instead of saying hey these things exist so go find out what you like? adjustable angles lol why? more variation and a selling point? even looking at most pro target shooter its flat and even i dont really ever see someone with different angled bars.

Brasian

+NUSensei Hello! i recently wasked about a bow on of your other vidios but here i hear that u talk about "Cartel" with that i guess that you are or might be a bot familiar with that brand. so is this scope good for a target archer with a compound bow, www.hobbyskytte.se/product_info.php?currency=EUR&cPath=23_39&products_id=251 .it has 8 times magnification and is right handed, the page is on swedish as u might see as you probably don't understand a thing! always thanks for yuor help NUSensei! :)

I have to disagree with your statement " A more expensive stabilizer is more STABLE". Any cheap set of stabilizers with the correct length and weight distribution can balance and create a more stable sight picture just as well as a high end set of stabilizers. At the end of the day in terms of stability for an archer stabilizers are just tubes with weights at the end, it terms of dampening and vibration ... that's a different story .

The short answer being that these are the biggest rip-off in archery. Even high end carbon tubes are pretty cheap these days, and archers have some idea what those costs are like. A few machhined bits and pieces are not a significant expense, look at the price of machined flashlights today, they can be a dollar store item. 200 dollars spent on a screw lathe early in one's career will pay you back over and over again.

Pretty overpriced for something that basically just increases the moment of inertia.

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A proper installed tuned stabiliser system does help you aim better. Please note

Tried cheap and expensive stabilizers. No real difference. All marketing and gimmicks. Common with archery gear.

There is a "zero balance formula" that would mean that the bow wants to sit still I would like to share with the community if you guys are still watching this (length of front rod * weight of front rod)/ length of rear bars = recommended weight on rear rod Want an example? Let's say I want a stabilizer zero balance setup to start with my compound Let's have the front rod at around 28 inches ( 26 inch draw length right now at 13) and my rear rod (compounds usually only have 1 rear rod) would be at 10 inches Ok let's plug those numbers assuming the front rod is 4 oz (28*4)= 114"oz/10 =14 oz on rear rod(s) This may not be the best feeling that you would have with stabilizers, but it is a great start, just plug in your lengths and front weight and see how everything goes! Conversion for metric readers: 1 kilo= 35.274 oz 1 inch=25.4 mm

My rod is 6 inch long and all women say it’s good enough!

I was thinking about that actually, but they're not red :P I'm still using my extension, but once I find another one to replace my cheapie then I can get rid of it as well.