Architecture Professor Explains Why Malls Are Dying | WIRED 

I don't want malls to close! :-(

If it wasn’t an ad for stranger things Netflix just got a bunch of free advertising. Just watched this with three other people who all simultaneously laughed about heavy handed the obvious Netflix sponsorship was.

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One mall where I live, Ballston Common, has been torn down and converted to a traditional business district called Ballston Quarter.

S T R A N G E R T H I N G S. You have to know that when you repeat something over and over again, it sticks inside the head of people. If you want to share information, dont repete stuff even if you like it. You need to understand the weight of your words on people. I think it was so far related plus, it was taking us out of the real message of the video. It may not have been sponsored but you use the show to give exposure to your content so it is all the same. You can not say it is not sponsored because you really just are the sponser of netflix in this story. I'm angry because what you do is usually alright but not this.

You'd probably have to turn mall grounds into mixed use, but it's completely possible. Though I'd use the whole mall land and build a superstructure, replace the parking lots with one or two multi-story parking buildings, and build a vertical city instead.

Yes! I've said a thousand times that old malls could be apartments or even schools depending on how the building is re-imagined. I hate to see these large buildings sit empty. It just seems so wasteful.

@@starzzzy22 It doesn't seem wasteful, it is wasteful. We dedicate way too much space for suburban development that could be used in different ways such as agricultural, nature reserves, parks, etc.

Have you seen Dredd (2012) ?

A huge multilevel neighborhood. Brilliant.

S. V. Villano same! And I haven't even seen the show

Same!

ditto

Almost thought it was an ad.

Moepowerplant it is an ad

Hey she said *by* 2022 so she's still technically right!

no one knew corona will accelerate the faith back then... haha

I was going to say the same thing.

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Well actually it’s been like this since the mid 2000s

You got it! All of the above.

@@rachelc.5463 Wrong, malls in low income suburbs are thriving. Can't try clothes online. Social media sucks. Online gaming overrated.

Yes. One more reason is that so many more people, particularly younger generations are rejecting capitalism and are also generally underpaid and have little to no expendable income

@@beepboop3540 Also they can't borrow like they used to do.

Smoke screen yes you are wrong. Clothes can be returned online gaming is suceeding (That is just a fact) your likement of it is irrelvant

Except for the people who want to turn them into churches. America has too many churches...

A closed mall in the midwest became. HS after a tornado took out the HS. Mini malls have been turned into ES schools.

@@CJ-im2uu what's HS and ES? (I'm not American)

The professor describes what could be done with these malls at 7:27. If the neighborhood is thriving with high employment, they build apartments on top of the malls and keep some shops turning them into a more modern downtown. If the neighborhood isn't thriving which it usually isn't, community uses such as schools, churches, community centers or just referencing them back to parklands and wetlands. I suspect we won't see a lot of changes till autonomous vehicles whether in private vehicles, ride hailing services or PRT removes the need for large parking lots as removing the parking lots recovers a lot of real estate. Ultimately, what path the mall will take would be the most profitable for their owners despite what we would like to see.

MrZaz3 high school.

lol true. palamig muna lmao

Yep, same here in Indonesia. It's super hot all day all year round, the only place people could hang around comfortably with friends/family is well, the malls. That's why some mall are even decorated to emulate the looks of an outside location (a hanging garden, some European highstreet, a row of fancy cafes, and so on) Malls in the western countries are super plain looking in comparison.

Same in Mexico hahaha

yup. in places with less than ideal climates, malls are still a sort of town square place.

Well not 4 long

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This is something my brother would say... ...if he was interested in dead malls.

Or s-mall-er

I'll groan a bit, but that was clever.

*_ba dum tss_*

you were right!!

I bet

Why can't amazon turn those malls to a premier amazon center so people can buy stuff and hang out, like a mall.

@@LazyPirate8 that would mean a corporation actually cares about the joy of its consumers, would never happen. That’s why malls are dead and gone

FACTSSSS

Huh...kinda like Duluth GA. Itself. Both are dying. So quaint.

Really. I remember that mall. That's sad.

Dang.

Last time I was in that Mall it looked like a great place to film a zombie apocalypse because it was so abandoned. It does have a great Korean Mega Mart, but that's about it now.

Yes this is the major factor. Wages for most Americans peaked in 70-80s the hey-dey of the mall. They even said malls were starting to falter in the 90s -before online shopping boomed to what it is now. Then folks saying their malls are doing fine are all located in thriving coastal cities not the economically depressed majority of the country. Then other comments are saying malls are taking off in Asia/china.... again places where their middle class buying power is clearly booming. Over saturation and online shopping are minor factors, but average americans losing buying power is clearly the major player.

Wages can't increase with the nonstop flow of immigrants into the country, legal or otherwise. "Jobs Americans won't do" more like jobs Americans aren't willing to do for slave wages, while on the other hand 3rd world migrants will do those jobs (not well) for a fraction of the cost.

Buffdaddy Jamal ^^^ truth ^^^^

@@BuffdaddyJamalWages keep being capped though. According to inflation, the minimum wage should be about $20 an hour now, in accordance to it's value when it began. Which means your average college educated person should be getting about $40 to $50 an hour. We've tried to hold back inflation with our own wages for so many decades that it's now hitting us all really hard. I know you can't just keep printing money and giving more and more in paychecks, but it's become much to low for your average American to just live day to day.

I was really disappointed they didn't address this in the video. Another factor I would point to is the decay of American suburbs. I don't have any statistics off the top of my head, but I remember reading that suburban homes are losing value, suburban poverty is increasing, and suburban infrastructure is falling apart. Since the prosperity of suburbia is what fueled malls in the first place, its decay is bringing about their end. I wish they would have brought that up in the video because I think it is important for Americans to know that the American Dream is not what it used to be and that the future of this country isn't suburbia and mall culture but cities and main-street economies.

It's been held

Ikr? Not to mention all the stuff sold in malls these days is disposable crap.

And most malls ( at least around here) are 95% clothing stores with nothing interesting in them at all.

Malls located in more up-scale places where people (still) have money are doing well. Malls located in economically depressed places are not doing well or are closing.

Everyone ignores that.

The same demographic that buys the newest iPhone every year and the Supreme brick that was literally an expensive brick with the name Supreme on it?

I'm 18 and I remember when malls were packed

Part of why I don't like the mall now is that it's so empty. If I'm there shopping alone without friends or family, it's almost disturbing.

50,000 people used to live here. Now it's a ghost town.

I'm 18 and they are still packed. It depends on the city and the mall itself really.

Yeah same. Im 17 and i remember being 8 9 10 and spending 8 hours at the mall shopping and eating. It was always packed and always fun. Now they are a little creepy bc they are so silent

Our Targets are all in malls.

Laura Smith Yes I have seen one Target connected to a mall but Walmarts are gigantic and simply too big to be attached to a mall

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Target and Walmart even sell food now too. You can buy clothes, electronics, toys, toiletries, ect. Remember when Amazon used to just sell books? Lol, these companies have become monopolies.

Agreed. Also what wasn't discussed was why the former anchors failed. Online shopping had very little to do the failure of anchor stores. Crippling debt is the major factor in that. The death knell for malls happened in the crash of 2008, after 30 years of mergers and acquisitions, major department stores couldn't afford the debt they acquired making those mergers. Department stores began to close, and with their closure, malls were left with huge amounts of square footage and nothing to put in those stores place. Even if you could get someone in there, the costs to re open a dead anchor space is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

@stryfetc1 Amazon is basically small retailers under one big corp. P.s. what i meant is that Amazon is an online shopping mall. It has almost the same concept as a physical mall.

Have you seen the S&P price? Big Corps have never had it so good

@@megaswenson Good Lord! Who hurt you? I have never had an aggressive experience in a mall with young undesireables.

@@megaswenson - That sure sounds racist to me...

Yes, no one likes Big Corp! No wonder Apple and Netflix and Facebook and Google are almost bankrupt.

No. Amazon is taking over.

Amazon stretches its tentacles far and wide consuming everything in its path. Distribution centers act as gestation pods to give birth to new plagues

@@minecraftminertime Governments really need to put a ceiling on these companies. It gets out of hands and absurd.

What strikes and shocks non-USA citizens probably is seeing those large, empty building and at the same time watching and reading about USA citizens living inside their cars, or at hotel rooms payed by the hour or even on street due to huge rent prices they cannot afford and seeing those well-preserved buldings which are no longer being used, empty, habitable, occupying huge part of public space and simple left there to rot and serve no purpose. To many people living outside of USA looking at something like this seems plain crazy. Not to mention that USA version of capitalism tends to lecture the rest of the globe on democracy and efficiency. How on earth is this democratic or efficient? It's just the most irrational waste of money, public space and raw materials anyone can ever imagine. Knowing that in some cities money has to spend to treat certain diseases simply becuase people live on the streets out of poverty and later on seeing a location like this that could actually house such people to at least lower social cost of certain diseases spread due to access to toilets and possibilty to wash hands more frequently really can leave many people worldwide speachless. Yes, there are dead malls in Europe for example. And guess what? They are being repurposed. They are not left empty, locked down to rot. People use them.

It don't matter.

I agree...malls never offered me anything I wanted once I left my teen years

@@jamesedinger4956 Even during the heyday of the American mall (80s-90s), the stores were mostly for teenage girls, young women, and families. If I had to take a guess, you're a single male without children, right ? If so, it makes perfect sense why you wouldn't shop there. lol

Albert Budi check out Landmark Mall redevelopment in Alexandria, VA. The city actually asked the community for input what to do with the space. Also, the mall served as a set last year for the upcoming Wonder Woman movie

Because that's job creation. They don't like job creation in this country. The democrats and republicans decided years ago that if we have the luxury of a constitution and human rights we therefore do not deserve stable jobs nor a substantial economy. Noam Chomsky breaks it down in Requiem For The American Dream. Free online!

Did you mean: Singapore malls

zenubi One of the malls shown in this video was turned into a school.

Have you heard about our lord and savior, Stranger Things?

Yes I agree even in New Zealand some are dying Make them into small compact towns. High security, able to walk around day or night

They repurposed an abandoned mall in Philadelphia and turned the 2nd and 3rd floors into micro appartments. The first floor is coffee shops,boutiques, and restaurants

Kiwionwing morton A 21st century Catal Huyuk (however it's actually spelled in Turkish).

@@Moepowerplant lost me Could you explain Saliden was last Turkish global leader And he was Kurdish

Moepowerplant oof I haven’t heard that name since my ninth grade western civ class

@Johnny Tramain I live in Toronto and up here all the major mall owners here are pouring in hundreds of millions of dollars to renovate and expand many malls in the city. Seems like malls at least in some parts of the world are still thriving and plenty of people aren't abandoning them which is good.

Living space? No. Suburban shopping malls are not aesthetically pleasing. They are almost always big boxes surrounded by a sea of parking lots next to highways. Nobody wants to live in such a soulless place.

Most people don't play video games on their basement

......and thus malls need to have interactive places for the youth to be preoccupied with.

The mall in my town is the hangout for twenty and thirty year olds who live with their parents.

Kids don't even hang out at the malls anymore.

Kids don’t hang out at malls much either

Except online shopping isn't really what's killing malls. It's the lack of disposable income.

Online shopping keeps getting the blame. By the time you pay shipping you should have gone to the store.

And hospitals. I'm not American. But I'm married to one and spend part of the year in the states. The mall directly near our house in the states was torn down and rebuilt as an extension to the local hospital. I swear there's 12 different extensions to this one hospital in this one town that's not big enough to be called a city. It's borderline suburbs. More people are getting sick.

next: VR shopping kills physical shopping

when did malls become huge? journalists are comparing and almost laughing how tiny 80s malls were... with size comes cost and risk. Even now every mall has to be the biggest in the country etc. Nobody is really thinking how to get shops. And same year they are building several malls in same city. Which already has many. So I cant anything good word for it, just MLM comes to mind.

She didn't forget. Everyone knows that capitalism and the destruction of the lower classes is to blame. They will never say it because their sponsors/owners won't like that.

Sweet mother of Celestia, you're right

Its not true. The internet is killing retail, not just malls.

And to be more specific, the death of the suburban middle class whose prosperity fueled the growth of malls in the first place

Baby Boomers are dying off.

That's what killed the malls.

2022: knock down the trees and build flying cars

NJ: Our malls aren’t going anywhere.

Christopher Lee NYC just opened Hudson Yards

American Dream Mall is opening in a few months at the Meadowlands. That thing is supposed to be just slightly smaller than the Mall of America.

Thank you Bill Clinton.

@@WordsofHarmony Hudson Yards isn't a mall.

Jen absolutely!! I was going to say the same thing!

Me too. I stay clear and will never go back.

Oh god yes. I remember last time I was in one, a man was forcing this expensive face cream at my mom, and would not take no for an answer until I literally dragged her away. I miss the days of malls just having art and phone stalls in the middle of them.

Yes, those can be very annoying, some really believe they can sell you anything!!

Tell em "GTF outta my face."

Yep. Another irony is seeing shopping carts, the emblem of consumerism, being used to transport the worldly goods and\or waste of underclass street people

Good point. It's the contrast of 'then vs now' which I find so fascinating... it's hard to put my finger on it

Turning these into apartments would be dope

Americans have no idea that the rest of the world exist.

I'm actually finishing a year abroad in Japan, and one of the things that shocked me as an American is that... Malls are very much NOT dying here. Every mall I've been to has been packed, usually without any empty storefronts.

@@KaguyaHimex Also malls in Asia have higher quality stuff in general.

@@MajorGeneralVeers I think that's part of it- if I go to the mall and most of the stuff there is junk, I won't want to go back. Half the time it's super hard to find basics and half the shirts for women will have weird frills sewed on them

true, here in Asia, wherever mall you are, it's packed with people, even on a holiday

Angelic Boy Um, it takes place in the 80’s.

I know right?

But it’s not just too much merchandise, it’s BAD merchandise that nobody wants.

Eugene Pomeroy very well put

The guy who created them wanted them to be like downtowns.

@@geoffreyharris5931 If they redeveloped the stores on the upper floors as apartments, they would, I believe, make a comeback. In Europe, lots of people live above the shops they own and operate.

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@@TheStarBlack okay

Makes perfect sense

(Insert laugh track)

Hundreds of abandoned buildings in the suburbs, and thousands of abandoned people on the streets... If only there was a way of connecting the dots.

1234coolman I know right? Very insightful.

Dylan Nanayakkara if only. The government and powers that be, would never allow it.

@@007Julie Sure, it would cost money to relocate them in the first place, but, if they got the homeless back on their feet and contributing in the economy, the government could enjoy greater tax revenues and the "powers that be"... well they could enjoy a more robust economy. It seems like a win-win-win to me.

Your right.. But you need to mention Stranger Things to get more likes!

plus I could see that could bring back some of the culture. Living near each other if done right the could spear on culture in that community. Around me a lot of old schools are being turned into senior senior living facilities

That would be ironic..the teenagers that used to hang out at the malls in the 1970's and 80's end up literally retiring in them..

The baby boomers. The generation that was born with the suburbia, grew up to make the malls and now would get into those repurposed malls as ALC. Kind of looks like some tale to be told.

Also: affordable housing for young families, such as they are.

One of the department stores being turned into a church is like stage 3.

Ours just LOST a base card trading store! So what does that say?

Maybe that's what inspired the video.

Wired gets more clicks/likes if it taps into the Stranger Things fans

If she wants to she can do it

@@patrickqin but they really missed chance to put stranger things in the thumbnail or the title.

Netflix money...

Same here the mall where Im at has a huge parking lot and is letting resturants build on the outskirts of it.

Aren't upscale or high end malls thriving? I know malls in tropical countries are thriving all because they have AC and outside is very hot.

Assuming you are in the United States, unless your area experienced explosive growth (downtown city, new exurb in a growing metropolitan, etc.) that mall probably canibalized one to three other malls that serviced the same area that were there 15-30 years ago (as alluded to in the video). Also the malls today are nothing like the malls of the 1980's and 1990's. Not only were they insanely crowded pre-cell-phone gathering places and town squares like in the movie "Mall Rats." Today's malls, even busy ones, are optimized for spending money. For instance, the mall in the show Stranger Things had carpet in the hallways! Modern malls use marble to reflect as much sound as possible which drives your subconcious self to enter an (often carpeted) store with softer music and signatures scents.

Malls in huge cities seem to be thriving

@@lordharambe4653 I used to live close to a mall that was in an affluent community. There's some women that all they have to do is shop and waste money. Their husbands make a ton of money but they're off all day making it. So to kill time the women spend money. They enjoy the retail experience. Salespeople kissing their asses. It's definitely a thing. A manager told me once what rental space was in that mall and it was insane! Like $1,200 a square foot a month. This was back in the early 90s too.

Bingo. The price of jeans is always $50. Even on some of the clearance racks.

Definitely. Overpriced merchandise which was probably a symptom caused by the consolidation of malls under 2-3 corporations who all started raising rent and squeezing store owners.

Where I live a crappy pair of mall jeans that fall apart is $80 or more

Also movie theaters in malls are expensive. I can go to a theater in a mall and spend $20 dollars on a ticket or go to an independent theater and spend $8 on a ticket

Have any of you heard that stranger Things series 3 will have a mall?

Yeah, they should have compensated by turning the vacant department stores into live theatres for musicals, plays, operas, concerts, etc, with smaller vacant retail spaces turned dance studios and rehearsal spaces and whatnot, and lots of places for audience members and performers to eat, hang out, etc.

Malls do better In hot climates, free air con for poor & security

Totally true!

I would disagree. People in the 80s definitely thought more is better but thats not to say this generation thinks any different. the shift is that it's no longer more is better, it's more expensive is better. that's the difference. no one wants to go to Macys and buy a shirt for $20 that has no logo attached to it. they want to go to more high end stores and blow money there. i would argue zoomers are even more materialistic than previous generations and this is exactly why luxury brands have just exploded in popularity. more isn't better, more expensive is better.

@@ceoofmemes1967 Yeah, point taken. I have to agree with you at least in part while still acknowledging the shift that has slowly taken place in the lives of many towards minimalistic living, off grid living and the nomadic lifestyle.

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BUGZES ...but Visayans love malls too

1234coolman malls are thriving in the Philippines and are the de facto hangout for EVERYONE. It’s a tropical climate & AC is free at the mall

Malaysia also tag along😂

Relatable, have a nice day.

Just goes to show that our social and financial situation is about 30 years behind

What they have been doing is turning htem into ugly strip malls. In Bend Oregon they had a really nice mall Mountain View Mall and now it's this ugly strip mall. Keizer Station is this weird figure 8 thing where you have to drive all over the place and you never know which side your going to be on either so chances are you have to DO IT ALL OVER AGAIN!!!!

Liberals were trying to make it be like Southern Europe without the right climate nor demographics. They just did their knee circle buzz words and partying instead of their homework or they'd have realized this and immediately halted these projects. The ZCMI mall suffered the same fate in SLC Utah though they did an ugly remodel before tearing it all down.

ZCMI used to be a VERY unique mall with gold elevators in a basement hallway. I was very little so only have vague memories but I remember the ZCMI mall was in two buildings so you'd go either outside or an underground hallway with these gold elevators. The mall was eventually remodeled and looked like any other big city mall before being torn down. We went in April for my birthday and it was SO cold going between the buildings at night.

Obamacare wiped out a lot of money people made during a year.

@@metalox88 huh? hows that suppose to make sense?

Raymond Chan it’s because AC

shopping malls are boring looking. they are not dying but they are very plain and dull.

It’s because they are convenient, but most things are overpriced and the stores are extremely repetitive. Personally I don’t really like malls in HK.

@@Tiriikran i agree with the repetitve

Working class in China have money. US working class do not have money. It is that simple.

Bosley did you even watch it? They hardly speak about stranger things after the first few minutes

It seems to me like they were using the show's popularity to create more interest in the topic. The vitality most malls enjoyed in the time the show portrays is also relevant and may help some younger folks understand the changes malls have undergone too. They symbolism drawn at the end of the vid was nice too. It takes me back to my high school AP English classes.

Bosley I think it was just a ploy for views

@Vulas Helefaren no... it's really not...

More so the opposite. Everybody is talking about stranger things so they use that hype for their video.

Are you serious? Not in California where I live. Maybe people go to the malls to get out of the cold.

yea so0o true, we build malls in the middle of nowhere and they still get packed... even build a massive mall next to another massive mall

@@mermaidcattt No. I'm telling a Canadian that people go to malls in Canada to get out of the cold. Maybe I just phrased my response wrong. In California, malls are not packed.

They're talking about US malls fucktard

Mark Flierl Then the video should have said American malls. Malls in South America and Asia seem to be doing well too.

What everyone seems to miss, is what it feels like to be in mall, are you welcome, how aggressive are they trying to get your money etc... Even city officials dont like to talk about these stuff, then money is wasted a lot when mall is deemed failure. What I'm interested also, what happens to all the concrete in urban areas, when they demolish and build new huge constructions. I heard sand is not infinite supply (needed for concrete a lot).

Wouldn't happen to be city center would it?

what kind of downtown ? Chicago or some A B C city downtown

Also Spencer, we can't overlook the fact that online shopping is what is really reducing that human traffic at these malls and I am afraid its never going back. If you can shop virtually for anything with a few clicks on your phone why do you have to drive anywhere. Its simply an evolution in commerce and the culture is adapting to it. Malls can be repurposed for other things to better the human condition.

The One World mall in Chengdu city Sichuan province is the largest enclosed space ever in the history of history. It's interior atrium is 13 stories high it has a water park and it's own metro station.

I dont think architecture has a damned thing to do with it period. Nobody cares wha the shops look like, its online shopping, point blank. In smaller towns with less access to shopping, malls will continue to be fine.

@@caligulalonghbottom2629 Thats gotta be the least intelligent post of this comment section. The architecture and design of a building plays a big part in its success.....

Architecture is not only the aesthetics of a building, but is more often a manifestation of the zeitgeist of a specific time period/culture. The commentary of an architectural professor is very appropriate because they study how/why a building typology came to be and why it is no longer appropriate for the culture today.

@@sukikwan3786 Plus the layout of a buliding heavily influences consumer behaviour, which is something that good mall architects carefully study and plan for, which wasn't always the case with those malls.

cause those malls are far more entertaining and glamorous than we have

Chris Sanchez Gwinnett place mall in Georgia

In the upcoming 3rd season, part of the plot is a mall opening up in the small town that previously never had a mall

LMAO can’t you tell he’s joking!? Anyways, YES

HAAAA!

You're confused? I missed the Stranger Things stuff. MUST .... LEARN .... TO .... FO .... c .... u ....

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This is exactly what happened 😂

I mean, I LOVE stranger things, but yea... it seems kinda... irrelevant to the topic at hand to force ST3 into this video, when the only connection is that "it has a mall in it"

She is the only person I have ever seen that excited for a show with a mall.

Let's try to shift the conversation back to Stranger Things™, featuring David Harbour as the lovable Jim Hopper

What city is that? That has been happening all over.

I feel like Northridge would be another. (...and all of the other failing Northridge malls. The "Northridge Curse".)

Johnny Tocino San Antonio Texas

Kevin Vasquez yeah, you think they paid for it? That’s a weird product placement

Interesting, I looked at it the other way; them trying to tap into the Stranger Things hype to teach the fans something about the history and the future of malls.

100% agree! This woman is some sort of super fan of that show. She talked about it for a full minute before the real meat and potatoes of the topic started. Then closed the video with saying she hopes the professor tunes in for the new season. Ugh! So annoying!!

I've never seen the show and so I skipped past that part. Seemed like a plug to me.

I just started the season and so I thought it actually fit really well. I liked the connection

lol same.. i thrift shop.. i like saving by wearing used clothes. maybe ill treat myself to ross or tjmaxx

You can still walk around. Some people use them for exercise.

C Barbs maybe it was just the inspiration for this girl to make the video

also this topic has really already been covered by tons of youtubers too. there’s a guy who also did a special on all the kmarts closing too

If you want better quality clothing at lower prices then the internet is the way to go

@@JAG214 that's hilarious!

@@wlonsdale1 How so ?

Most people that shop- a lot, only need their clothes to last a single season- as they'll be onto newer styles the next year. Those buying "exprensive" longer-lasting items... only shop once every couple years. They're not going to keep doors open.

Malls are dying is because of Amazon. The new generation of people buys everything online. Why go out of the house when you can have everything delivered to your doorstep. Automation is where the future is heading.

Willy Wong It really has nothing with millennials being losers or unsuccessful or failing to launch and more and more of them living with Mommy & Daddy. No, Millennials have actually made no changes in this world, good or bad. They are simple the victims of the decisions the big government and elite corporations make.

Iv just read most of these reasons, and there "all valid!"

See, it's the diversification of the mall you mention that works. Sort of how cities used to be. Our big cities didn't just get built overnight like suburban shopping malls and suburban residential planning. Cities were extremely mixed. Look at neighborhoods in cities with mixed zoning. It the community can get rid of crime s yuk ch mixed zoning areas are huge potential for economic growth. Suburban areas with strict zoning, strict hoa's, large distances between locations not so much, except cheap tax rates and open land for new construction.

No. If that is true then explain how online shops are so successful.

@@garyh4458 Percentages.

Gary Harper Its a combination of internet research allowing you to easily compare prices and then the shopping for an item to buy the cheapest used or new item gave people more options and better prices. When I went to a mall I did not even have a cell phone. A mall is a network of stores. Now the internet is the virtual network.

@@jamesmedina2062 Yeah, malls are ridiculously expensive. I've never bought anything at a mall for full price. Online and thrift is the exact same thing for a fraction of the cost.

Rocky Comet Totally agree.

Same here in greece

People always like to copy us, I would've liked if it was different but most countries are influenced by American culture when you guys have your own culture.

Horrible selection was a major contributing factor. I cut my teeth in retail during the eighties. It was all about "Fashion Merchandising" to increase sales back then. I worked in Fine Clothing, Women's Shoes, Sportswear, Major Chains and even Sam's Club. The selections they have now now just have me scratching my head and asking "wtf are people wearing???" They don't compare at ALL to the kinds of clothes and things that were desireable back then. Problem with Malls in the US is the same with everything else: they don't cater to the end user. It's more exciting shopping at a 5 Below or Dollar Tree 😇😅😅

It's a little more complex than that.

Walmart & Target

Real cause of death: a short-sighted public.

Because youths today think clothe shopping is boring. Amazon is only a little bit of the reason because a lot of things are more expensive on there

Amazon sucks... the life out of America.

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American politicians keep outsourcing our jobs and they wonder why stores are closing down. WE HAVE NO $$$$$

Yes. But I find the laptop lid blocking the sight to the presenter unpleasant.

Likely they're very sad and scared what will the future turn into

@@okamijubei the future is changing and malls are becoming a thing of the past, like Blockbuster Video.

Exactly, also it’s the you don’t know what you have till you’re gone deal.

Actually, no, Im basking in the death of the malls.

I don't remember you saying that.

I believe you

I agree with you.

i live for it, i'm in the same boat

Word! I love architecture, history, architectural history, and historic architecture. Totally my jam as well!

i agree! a mall near me has stops for 3 buses, and a trolley stop. thats the only reason why my friends and i are even able to go, as we dont have cars. kids still love the mall, we just dont have access to them.

Public transit always has stops at major shopping locations, but not every city has a decent network of public transit. Cities/government in general would have to actually focus on policies to promote the middle class, but they only want to focus on thise who are already wealthy. It's a case of capitalist values being self-destructive.

@@beth8775 thats very true. our transit system is barely decent, but thats because i live in an area where it 100% needs to be. as in, theres no "rich people" to focus on. i cant imagine what its like in large cities, or upper class areas

@@chris4436 I live in an area that's pretty rural, so mass transit doesn't really exist. Our towns aren't big enough to need or support it. Our sporadic cities (small cities really) are largely full of people to whom the concept is kind of foreign, so what systems they do have are not functional enough for people to be content using them.

@@beth8775 America hates public transportation. America wants everyone to drive that's why public transit is deliberately underfunded. If America continues at the rate of underfunding public transit by the middle of the century public transit will be dead and relegated to NYC.