the more important thing (than temperature micro differences) is HOW LONG the paste will stay wet to keep the same results after few months. some guys on forums say than thermal grizzly become dry too early / fast. and you all people, talking only about degrees during first hours after apply.
TG Kryonaut extreme has been on my 2080 ti for almost a year now running Folding@home 24/7 (every 3 months I take the card out to dust it off) and temperatures remain the same. Take what you read on forums with a grain of salt, since human error is also a factor to consider. I can tell you from experience this paste is real good! Running a card 24/7 for a year could cause the stock paste to lose its thermal conductivity faster than under normal operations, i.e. 5 hours at full load per day. Take this as you will 👍.
I have used MX-2 and MX-3 for like 4 or 5 years and still had some parts liquid, I always enjoyed MX series and I'm currently using MX-6 but still haven't opened it to see it's state. But I had troubles with MX-5, totally don't recommend it and the entire syringe of it is garbage and I can't even use it while I have a big syringe of MX-4 for a HUGE amount of years and it still looks the same as day one out of the syringe and still use it nowadays and still performs fine...
@@TechnologyHive oh I disagree. Today I had issues with i9-12900ks, high temp, restarts. so I took out the water pump and what I saw? Dry thermal grizzly kryonaut extreme (that pink one) - so after 1,5year it become dry. this confirms what some people is saying about thermal grizzly that it is the best but dry fast. Now I comeback to arctic. I never saw dry mx-2 or mx-4. Never. So this time I applied mx-6. but I'm done with thermal grizzly. it is designed more for overclockers who are often changing CPUs
@@Radek__ Dry thermal paste does not mean "bad" thermal paste. Most TIM will dry and remain thermally conductive. If you look at pastes from Dow Corning, used on Intel and AMD cpu's as well as many GPU board partners, this paste dries relatively quick but remains thermally conductive throughout the lifespan of the CPU or GPU. Of course a fresh application of TIM will always help, but it doesn't necessarily mean it's the solution to the problem. My RTX 2080 (and little Pentium G6505 which I have delidded and applied Kryonaut Extreme now going for almost a year and a half) run 24-7 at full load doing Folding @home. Temperatures remain exactly the same as when first applied. Now, I do not know if you run your PC at full load 24-7 so I can not begin to guess what may actually be the problem in your case. Maybe bad contact when you mounted the cooler or poor TIM application. I don't know. But dry TIM does not mean its bad. Common misconception.
Arctic mx 6 needs to be broken in for a couple hours for max performance, which would seem to say it’s better if grizzly is only 1-2 degrees ahead out the gate. I had mx 4 on my cpu for around 4 years averaging 12 hours a day gaming and still looked like the day I put it in when I finally changed it.
I do not find this information on the Arctic Cooling website indicating MX-6 needs a few hours of curing for max performance. Perhaps you'd be kind and point us where you got this information? I'd appreciate it! Like you, I like MX-4! It is a great product!
@@TechnologyHive This is mostly unofficial, but I quit remember this scenario from old times, and mostly for generic pastes, you apply it, use office, internet, blah, blah, and just few days later temps drop down, I personally seen it so many times....
@@TechnologyHive right, I remember the old pastes, it took really few days, on idle use to cure it, do not know new pastes, just now ordered mx-6! I decided to stick with mx-6 as I plan to not to re-apply it for some longer times...
Im coming back to this video with my experience. My Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut dried out after 6 months on a Ryzen 7 5800X3D. Now i used Kryonaut Extreme the red one and my temps are the following with an Arctic A-35 RGB cooler: with the dried out paste( 42°C idle, 64°C-68°C gaming) New paste: 36°C idle, 56°C gaming. Room temp 23°C.
±1 degree falls definitely into acceptable process variance I assume. In the uk, 8gr of mx-6 are about 11£, while 30gr of extreme are over 110£. Not worth it by any stretch unless you are using nitrogen and require the extra properties of extreme.
Very well said. This is the same reason why I don't recommend TG kryonaut extreme unless you're an extreme overclocker. It is expensive. For me, MX-4 or MX-6 is enough 🙂.
Here in Norway you can buy both. At the time when I bought this one, it was the only option available. The smaller tubes had not come out on the market yet. But it is nice to see it available in smaller amounts now. :)
@@d4nith3 oh wait a second, you were talking about the grizzly, i am dumb asf xD the price and grams i mentioned above are for the artic haha. But still for the grizzly here i would pay 21.90.- for 5.50g. So 16.- for 2g is still a bit high priced imo
i have used like 6 different pastes in the last 5 years . thermal grizzle products are good but not for the price. here in canada thermal grizzle is like 7 times more expensive then noctua or mx-6 and the difference is like 1-3 degrees at most . not worth it in my opinion
For me, i had to repaste my laptop after replacing the fans myself. The sad part was, to get to the fans, you had to lift the whole cooling system up which pulled apart all of the contact points to the GPU and CPU chips. It was so hard to find a paste that wasnt electrically conductive that might short out the GPU. MX6 is mighty good for that. I slapped it everywhere and closed that sucker up. That was provably a 6 months ago. Does my laptop still yet hot when gaming? Yes it does. But i dont regret using it.
1. Excellent paste work, I do the same thing, manually spread out the paste as evenly as possible ensure the best thermal contact and minimize air pocketing, this is the superior method bar none. 2. I also appreciate the the cross-screw installation of the cooler, I also use this method as it helps with ensuring even pressures on the cold plate. 3. Your testing methodology was sound for being a generic test that is easily reproduceable from an end user standpoint, this makes the data you provided very valuable Based on the results I would strongly recommend Arctic MX-6, it looks like it spreads MUCH EASIER than TG Kryonaut Extreme and the Amazon price differences are MASSIVE. TG Kryonaut Extreme is currently $21.99 for 2 grams, where as Arctic MX-6 is currently $6.99 for 4 grams (prices on Amazon as of 7/20/2024). Now where TG Kryonaut Extreme IS the clear winner is where its designed, for extreme cooling solutions like liquid nitrogen/helium, its specifically formulated to operate in those kinds of extreme environments, hence the name.
For the money and performance, MX-6 all the way. But if you want that little bit extra 1-2 degrees, or you're an extreme overclocker, TG Kryonaut Extreme would be my choice. I am not an extreme overclocker, so MX-6 is what I buy the most for my cards. Great thermal paste. Thanks for points you make btw.
I've been running my 2080 in a rig for 20/7 folding@home with kryonaut extreme for almost a year, and temps are the same as day one. Also, the little pentium cpu in this machine is delidded and I used kryonaut extreme as well. Temps are the same as when I applied it. There is a misconception I believe that needs to be addressed about thermal pastes. Just because a thermal paste application "dried up" does not mean it is no longer thermally conductive. I all depends on the particular composition of the paste. Some dry and stop being thermally conductive. Others dry and continue to work as day one because of the particles that make up the TIM itself. Dow Corning is the brand used by most cpu and gpu manufacturers, not because it is the best in terms of thermal conductivity. But it is preferred because of its composition, and despite it drying it remains thermally conductive for years. Bottom line is, it all depends on the particular make up of the paste in question that determines whether it will continue being thermally conductive after years of operation. Dry or not.
I also didn't like Kryonaut soon my temps went higher on the old Strix RX480 and on my modded Nintendo Switch also started having higher temps than what it used to when applying in little time. I always had better results and value with MX series though I had a defective MX-5 that almost killed my RX480, it's the only MX that I don't recommend. I use since MX-2 and any of them are pretty good for me and some stayed even slightly liquid after 5 years with MX-2 and MX-3...
I tried too kryonaut extreme but gets dry to early so, What thermal paste do you use now? Which one do you recommend? I was thinking to try the simple kryonaut
Hello, I just saw your channel, I have a question, I haven't changed the paste for 4 years and I have a temperature problem, is grizzly Kryonaut extreme suitable for ryzen 5 3600?
Hi already seen your video because I need some help i'm using RTX 3070 ti Zotac aorus and I needed to change the Thermal paste and Thermal pads because always was on 80 degrees and with this change now I have less degrees like 71 but My problem is with artic mx6 when I applied at couple of 2 months sometimes less my temps goes higher like 78 depends the game yesterday I was playing and I haf 78-79 gpu temp but hotspot was on 96 was to higher also before this because I didnt was monitoring I had a black square artifact than goes more and more bigger on plague tale requiem ultra 1440p I restarted My PC doesnt freeze but i'll restarted to check temps only hotspot at full load gpu was 95-96 degrees and memory and gpu temps 78 so I changed Thermal paste another time after a month or 2 don't remember right now and now my temps are normal on 71 degrees gpu hotspot 81-82 tomorrow I'll go to receive Thermal Grizzly Kryonout but I don't know if I'll go to spect the same results I only not want to change thermal paste every month do you know why this happening ? I'll go to use Thermal grizzly but alot of people saids than dry so quick so I don't know why Thermal paste when I applied I can play 1 or 2 months and memory temps never reach 90 degrees I'll hope you can help me to know whats the problem i'm thinking about your method aplication but with that method I waste more paste and also some.people said than need to be a uniform install with backplate and processor
@johnnyjuegos If you want to level up the gpu temps in this case I recommend Thermalright Heilos. This is the only fix I have found for these kinds of situations. Hotspot delta is hard to tame when using conventional thermal pastes.
good test. I like the Grizzly because of the can and spatula, performance seems a touch better, but not much, so both pastes are great and it really comes down to price, which I assume Arctic will win. Grizzly is great but usually very expensive, so only really good for extreme OC and people who can throw cash at stuff.
I have a rx 5700 xt the hotspot temps are 15-20c hotter than the outer die temps and i recently changed the paste and no difference thats using mx-4 and i think the cause is from a thermal paste pumpout.
the main selling point of Kryonaut Extreme is that it is specifically designed to sustain Extreme temperatures and not change its viscosity - from extremely cold LN2 temps down to -200c all the way up to extremely high temperatures up to 250c so it is purely aimed at extreme overclockers, rather than the average desktop consumer or even enthusiasts. now sure, a huge benefit for a PC builder that isn't an overclocker for using Kryonaut Extreme is that this stuff can last pretty much more or less forever really and it would not dry or evaporate or liquify and change its spread - this is a huge bonus if you are building a PC that would last you for 10 years, or building a PC for office that you'd rather not require maintenance etc. another benefit this has is for upgrading GPU cooling - many GPU manufacturers cheap out on thermal pad quality and thermal paste quality in their GPU's this isn't much of an issue with mid range or low end GPUs, but for the high end stuff like 80 series or 90 series this could actually cause reduced performance because the GPU couldn't hold its boost speed due to heat. re-applying thermal paste using a high quality thermal paste such as kryonaut extreme on your 80/90 series GPU could actually make a pretty big difference! and completely replacing all thermal pads on your GPU with high quality thermal pads such as Kritikal pads could also help improve the lifetime of your GPU. considering most high end 80/90 series GPU's nowadays cost upwards of 1000$ i'd say you would probably want to keep them alive and kicking for a long time lol, or at the very least have them less exposed to heat which will shorten their life
@HoLDoN4Sec This is perhaps one of the longest and most elaborate comments I've ever received 😊. Yes, Kryonaut Extreme is one of the best out there, even for the common Joe just building a home pc to play games. But for someone not doing Extreme overclocking to break records, phase change material, like that from Thermalright Heilos, is in my opinion, the way to go.
@@TechnologyHive Try out Phase Change Material (PCM) like Honeywell PTM7950, Upsiren PCM-1. And instead of thermopads on vrams and power sections, thermal putty Upsiren UX Pro.
To see the real difference you should tets it on very hot chips like 3080ti, 4090, 6800/7900xt etc. 12th 13th intel processors. And every thermal paste will show real results after 1 week
And in those case of tests the frequency also needs to be logged cause it's always fluctuating and can keep the same exact temp with 2 very different thermal pastes but have much stable clocks instead...
@@TechnologyHive thanks, friend. I'm asking about it because it's a newer product from Cooler Master and it has (at least on paper) better conductivity than the other two.
Essa MX-6 é uma bosta... 3 meses após aplicação o hotspot da minha placa de vídeo batendo 105graus... um lixo... ao abrir a placa pra trocar a pasta, verifiquei que a mesma tinha "derretido"... não recomendo!
@@TechnologyHive o que é bom pra uns pode não ser bom para outros... certamente o controle de qualidade ai nos EUA deve ser outro... porque aqui no Brasil há muita falsificação... ou má qualidade!
@@TechnologyHive hoje apliquei a Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme, vamos ver quanto tempo aguenta! Já apliquei a Grizzly Kryonaut comum... durou 8 meses, só troquei porque abri o PC para limpar, aproveitei e troquei thermalpads e a pasta térmica... certamente iria durar pelo menos 1 ano e meio ou mais!
On a practical stand point, i can see this test being usefull. But on a pure performance stand point using a 100w GPU is a massive flaw. You need to make the TIM the bottleneck of the test to realy see if there is a performance gap. I think by using a really hot GPU with a gigachad cooler is the way to go. A cooler that will be able to dissipate every watt you throw at it and a GPU that need to dissipate a lot of heat. Otherwise every paste will give you 71c because even mayonaise can transfer that much heat.
100w or 400w, the heat transfer will be the same. It's like saying liquid metal will work better at transferring 400w of heat vs 100w. It's no flaw when you can actually measure the difference. Thanks for watching anyway 👍🏼.
I think you answered my question to someone else: @TechnologyHive 1 month ago The extreme version should last for years. Even dry this paste remains thermally conductive 👍🏼
Well, I know that Mx4 lasts a long time, so part of me wondered if you tested this 2nd because it'll do great going forward, assuming you run it that way for years. MX4, based on me being a consumer of content and talking to friends who have used it a long time, is that it is very endurable for 24x7 use. I use it when I repaste GPU's because of this as my business has continuous load unless something goes wrong, like a blip in internet or what not.@@TechnologyHive
@tradingnichols2255 I see what you mean. I didn't paste the gpu in any particular order for any reason. It just happened to work out that way 🙂. I have used MX-4 for many years, and it's proven a winner 🏆 for me. You're absolutely right on that.
Have you made sure that coreclocks didn’t fluctuate and were constant 1100mhz the entire time? Otherwise this test was useless. Thanks for sharing. Cheers.
