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Q - red182ek92 - via youtube - I had a question about the MK7 GTI. In 2018 the GTI used the 6 speed DSG, and in 2019 they switched to the 7 speed. My question is, I am looking at buying a GTI, and wanted to get one new with a warranty as I am a little intimidated by DSG horror stories. I wanted to get the 6 speed DSG because it has been used for many years in the GTI now and has proven decent reliability, but with the 7 speed being new to the GTI, I am more hesitant to buy one. What can you tell me about the reliability of the new 7 speeds? Does one FEEL better/worse at daily driving in heavy traffic areas such as Atlanta? I am willing to buy a used 18 with low mileage if you think the 6 speed is a better choice! Thank you! Been watching lots of the AskDAP videos on both channels, your explanations are great!
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@red182ek92 4 года назад

Just realized my question got a video! Thank you so much for taking the time to answer my question! I am on the prowl for a 2018 SE with low mileage and remaining warranty now. I am looking at test driving a 2019 or 20 with the seven speed as well to see if it feels good. The 2015 6 speed i test drove a few months back was very smooth in comparison to my current 2013 G37 7-speed which i despise. :)

@kevinhobbs1832 4 года назад

Glad you asked! I am looking at a 2017 GTI (6 speed DSG) or a 2019 GLI (7 speed DSG).

@MegaHollywood1971 4 года назад

It would be apparent that you will dive into tuning with a GTI, in that case just aquire a tuner's more custom DSG version tune - that will make you happier. If you just use "D", then the ECU is just keeping you at efficiency anyway / If you use "S" you will get what you want when you want it - but I would suggest downshifting to the appropriate RPM first so that you get the best transition.

@MrVicsal03 3 года назад

This channel is so underrated

@tonylyons2414 2 года назад

7 speed DQ500 is probably the best box out there for the golf R iv got a MK6 golf R and I’m about to drop a RS3 7 speed box in with TVS software 🔥🔥🔥 plus a G25-660 turbo kit

@takeomack2782 4 года назад

Nice video buddy! 👍

@Noel127 3 года назад

Which DSG transmission works on a Tiguan 5N? CCTA 2015

@proljece2000 4 месяца назад

We have a 2013 VW Golf TDI 77KW with over 250K kilometers with NO issues whatsoever 7 speed DSG. Can go little over 1200 km on a single tank of fuel. Both local and highway driving. That’s our experience, if that helps anyone.

@jhamm15 4 года назад

Hey, can you do a newer DSG service walk through video sometime? Theres no videos on the newer 7-speed. I want to do mine early at 40k, dont trust the 80k service interval. 🤣

@juanvalencia6972 10 месяцев назад

Just trying to know what kind of dsg use audi a3 2.0 2018 😭, dq250 or 381?

@David-vx5tk 3 месяца назад

I have a 2016 golf gti Autobahn with dsg how should I drive it in heavy traffic and on hills

@dw1508 9 месяцев назад

I got the DQ381 2019 R and it feels tight about to go to Stage 2 ecu and TCU not sure how it will go then. But I'm changing the oil early

@blueridge8992 Год назад

It’s been 2 years since this video. Is there a final verdict on the GTI 6 speed DSG vs 7 speed DSG when it comes to tuning, power handling, and overall reliability?

@jamesxloan Год назад

To be honest bro as someone who drove a 7 speed for 2 years daily driving and the frequent harder driving (once almost every week), my clutch wore out very fast and got that replaced with the same clutch that had low mileage, keep in mind i was maintaining my engine transmission and drivetrain religiously. I think with the 7 speed (from what i’ve heard from close friends with hands on experience) upgrading both the clutch and flywheel to aftermarket parts on the 7 speed has great success rate in terms of longevity and reliability, but that shouldn’t be something a consumer of a “sporty car” should deal with especially within a year of ownership at low mileage. However, I have since owned an audi s3 6 speed dsg and that has done me wonders, i haven’t noticed any issues and i’m still finding it extremely smooth for daily driving on and off the track

@vader_117 Год назад

@@jamesxloanwas your dsg dry clutch 7 speed????

@ironmaniceland9738 Год назад

Possible do swap from DQ250 to DQ381 from Tigun 2.0TSI 190hp?

@codylee1983 4 года назад

I got a question about turbo blankets. I watched a video showing the pros of the turbo blanket, but does the extra heat cause faster wear on the turbo? I believe it increased temp on the hot side of the turbo around 225 Celsius. What is your take on them and their worth?

@Kmaitland89 3 года назад

There is a video in which they answer this question. No it does not cause extra wear and yes they are worth it.

@iskanderbuyuk4946 3 года назад

And this is why i got polo gti 2021 it got dq250

@KjellKarlsson1 Год назад

The DQ200 7-spd dsg is the one to watch out for. It's a dry clutch, quick, light and all but it have a relative low tolerance for wear with heaver engines and stop-and-go traffic.

@johnboy2436 4 месяца назад

There not talking about the DQ200. The 2019 DSG 7 speed is wet clutch. Your comment might put someone off and your not even talking about the same box. The 2019 box is the DQ381 7 speed.

@KjellKarlsson1 4 месяца назад

⁠@@johnboy2436My comment was to raise awareness about which gearbox that’s problematic. Anyway could just google which car it’s used in. It should be mentioned in the video that there are several different DSG gearboxes with different numbers.

@johnboy2436 4 месяца назад

@@KjellKarlsson1Let me stop you right there. This video is based from a users comment. That comment is about a 2019 GTI new 7 speed both which is NOT the box your mentioning. I understand your bringing awareness but i came on here to look about my new car with the 7 speed box and your telling me its a dry clutch because you have ZERO CONTEXT to your comment. Its false info and easy misinterpreted. If i didnt already know it was a wet clutch id be going away and cancelling my order.

@bitzer8722 2 месяца назад

@@johnboy2436 This very much looks like an issue with your poor reading comprehension, not an issue with the initial comment left by Kjell Karlsson. Anyone with basic reading english reading abilities and 5 seconds of google will be able to figure out the relevance of what Kjell is talking about. While it may not be directly related to the transmission that is discussed in the comment in the video, a comment about a different 7-spd dsg that is also part of the VAG group is a reasonable comment to make. So let me stop you right there from being a jerk.

@johnboy2436 2 месяца назад

@@bitzer8722 There seems to be an issue with your brain because you cant understand basic english. The user asked about the GTI. There is no blagging it, there is no turning it around or trying to worm a point in. He asked about the DQ381. If you too as long as you did to write your comment to think about it. You would understand he asked about the WRONG box on WRONG video. There is so many other videos involving his box in question. Its like asking about icecream on a pizza video. You sir, are special.

@superwolf6033 Месяц назад

And what about the Seat Toledo Xcellence DSG turbo 2018 ?????

@wetlikewater4662 2 года назад

Should the mechatronics fluid in the dq200 be replaced as preventative maintenance?

@TheTexican05 3 месяца назад

We do ALL DSG services at 40k mile intervals in my area unless the car is modified and tracked heavily. DSG service removes about 5qts of fluid at a time and goes a LONG way at extending the life of the trans. Always use OE VW fluids and filters to ensure you have no issues or surprises. This is coming from a career auto worker of 22yrs, amateur racer and builder for 10yrs, and a current VW/Audi tech. ✌️ 🍻

@Tight--LiNeZ 5 месяцев назад

Update to this question now please?

@fredrikmardenfalkhoppe494 3 года назад

The DQ381 DSG 7 has 80K miles / 120k kilometer service interval, not 40k miles / 60km.

@dw1508 9 месяцев назад

Yes but dont leave it that long change it early. This was done as VW wanted to lower the 5 year service plan costs in some countries. They dont care what happens after 5 years.

@devn3813 4 года назад

Is the new 7 dsg in the mk7.5 gti and gli a wet clutch ?

@weilandcock 4 года назад

@@amrashid No, the DQ381 is a wet clutch. You're thinking of the dry clutch DQ200

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@weilandcock Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good? The first gen *(0AM)* previous to 2014 had some problems.

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

@@amrashid no its not

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

It is a wet clutch it just has upgraded higher torque and HP rated clutches to handle the increased power of the new Golf R and Gti and Jetta Gli and Audi S3 they all use that exact same transmission

@devn3813 2 года назад

@@mik55tv22 thanks, that’s what I thought.

@vws8851 Год назад

Whatever u do just dont get a MQB car with the DQ381 7 speed. They come in the 2017+ audi s3 and a few other cars . I had one in my 2018 audi s3 and man i had quite a few scary issues with the trans and they were mostly all suprisingly somehow software related. But even after getting the transmission sofware updated at audi and getting those issues fixed it still felt sloppy for a car of this mileage.. especially when it gears down to 1st gear on its own after a long time of driving. When i first got the car at 26k kms it felt like this too. Pretty shite trans if u ask me. Maybe the previous owner best the piss out of it but ive heard several others with the same car having identical issues

@Nene-bj5ni 10 месяцев назад

Did it ever throw a code saying transmission error reverse gear not available

@vthach2012 2 года назад

Is the gli 7 speed DSg using a dry or wet clutch??

@sylvainonthetrack9228 3 месяца назад

Dry clutch 6 speed is wet clutch

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

Is DSG7 DQ200 0CW good? The previous gen DSG7 DQ200 0AM had issues.

@ahsanmalik1013 3 года назад

It is dry clutch so avoid any dual clutch that is dry clutch. Go with DSG DQ 381 or 500 that are wet clutch which are likely mated with powerful motors.

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@ahsanmalik1013 dry clutch is pretty good, but you have to change clutches every 150,000-200,000km ~ 600€

@ahsanmalik1013 3 года назад

@@dragospahontu But it is dry clutch and apparently doesn’t enjoy the good reputation compared to wet clutch dsg transmission.

@turek737 3 года назад

@@dragospahontu 180k km for my dsg 7 and 1500€

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@turek737 did you have a chip tune? that's a good price for a full rebuilt. It is important to change oil after 60,000km even if Volkswagen says it's "life time".

@aashishmalhotra 3 года назад

I think 6 speed dsg would be more reliable in heavy traffic or countries with hot weather such as India . As in 6 speed clutch is dip in oil and in 7 speed they say it as a dry clutch but then too some VW dealers are suggesting to change oil at every 40k miles . Don't where that oil is going considering the fact that 7 speed is wet clutch . Don't not expert but yaa the logic is that liquid dissipate more heat then dry ones .

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

They are both wet clutches my friend the new 7 speed has upgraded better performance clutches that are rated to handle more torque of the new Golf GTI and Golf R but other than that they are pretty much the same

@s4127419 2 года назад

IMHO, if you drive a dry clutch , that’s nothing to do with the transmission fluid. The life expectancy of dry clutch itself is relatively bad if compare to wet if your car is in a heavy traffic area … I have been fixing these for years, I mean , years….

@a.porzingis5119 2 года назад

@@s4127419 so sir it better dsg6 for passat 2.0 tdi 150hp??

@amirshaikh6877 Год назад

@@s4127419 what happens if we miss the dsg oil change at 60k kms mark and do it at 85k ? I'm buying a used mark2 octavia 2012 but the owner has not done the dsg oil change at 60k interval. Please guide. Thanks

@johnboy2436 4 месяца назад

they are both wet clutchs i dont understand why people are mentioning the dq200. that didnt come out in 2019. This new both is the DQ381 7 speed dsg and its a wet clutch.

@turek737 3 года назад

I did full rebuild on my dsg 7 dq200 after 10 years and 185kkm (dmf, mechatronics and clutchpack).

@aashishmalhotra 3 года назад

Yaa those are some pretty common issues with dsg.

@anandmenon5402 8 месяцев назад

How is it functioning now after 2 years? My dq200 got huge bangs on reverse gear and sent to repair. Can the repairs be effective?

@turek737 8 месяцев назад

@@anandmenon5402 After replacement I still had some small jerking from 2 to 3 gear. It's perfect since around 220kkm. I have 230kkm now and I need to replace water pump which last since the car left factory 😅

@turek737 8 месяцев назад

@@anandmenon5402 In my opinion you need to replace or fix mechatronics.

@linasvaiciulis6298 2 года назад

Do clutch are different in 6 speed and 7 speed gearbox?

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

Yes they are different the new 7 speed has upgraded better performance clutches that are rated from the factory to handle more torque and HP in order to handle the increased power of the new Golf R and GTI and jetta GLI and Audi S3

@MazeedAkanni Год назад

@@mik55tv22can i swap my 6 speed gearbox for the 7 speed one?

@nickcook7408 2 года назад

Golf R with 2spd powerglide swap

@presentjr 2 года назад

For anyone watching this video the DQ381 is terrible. DQ250 is better.

@ZenzDeluxe 8 месяцев назад

False. Keep coping.

@Rhino11111111 6 месяцев назад

What’s in the 2011 VW Passat? I’m looking at one and it has the 7 speed

@knolez1546 5 месяцев назад

@ZenzDeluxe Cope and seeeeeeeth

@johnboy2436 4 месяца назад

@@ZenzDeluxeinfact, he is right the 7 speed comes with alot of issues. it doesnt have MPI (multi port injection) its DI and one day ur gna get issues with carbon on the valves and ruff idle etc. performance loss. Also with that you get the GPF which is also an issue and REAL world the car is much slow and less tunable. 20ps less with the GPF. Sounds to me like your coping mate. the 6 speed is tried and tested. the 7 is not. even if its just as good. it comes with cars with all the emission rules making it overall a worse choice.

@alexnightwolf7664 3 месяца назад

All DSG s are crap

@seanmt5 Год назад

Dsg7 have been used in VW in Europe since 2010 mainly on tdi's and pretty much the same reliability wise as Dsg6

@TONI-bi1lg 5 месяцев назад

That’s not even true, the dry clutch 7 speed is known to be less reliable and more prone to wear

@ic_evox136 5 месяцев назад

@@TONI-bi1lg Would you say that a DSG7 with a 150k miles is a bad idea? Even with consistent service records of DSG/Haldex done ever 48k miles?

@johnboy2436 4 месяца назад

@@TONI-bi1lgWRONG. its a wet clutch. Dude your not even on about the same gearbox. The video relates to the 6 speed DSG DQ250 wet clutch gearbox and the 7 speed DSG DQ381 wet clutch gearbox. Check the discription. He says " and in 2019 they switched to the 7 speed". Which is the DQ381. SO what you going on about mate.

@Countryguy5967 3 месяца назад

I know yhis video is a few years old now. But, I was wondering if there is proof of which transmission is better? Looking at going from a Mk6 GTI to a Mk7

@mikkelvitusnielsen8352 4 года назад

Sorry but you do not state accurate information regarding the dsg. The old 6 speed code: DQ250 which is very reliable, and the newer dsg 7 speed code : DQ381, is both wet clutch. But from a contruction perspective they are very different. The newer DQ381 has separate oil chambers for the clutch and the mechatronic unit. And where the old DQ250 was/is very reliable, there has been reports that its not quite the same for DQ381. I would cert. find a low milage with the 6 speed DQ250.

@KobraPun 3 года назад

The 7 speed dsg is a dry clutch. Uses ATF fluid.

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@KobraPun It is as simple as follows. All manufacturers including VW put a dry clutch DSG on cars with up to 250-260NM. A wet clutch is reserved for engines with more torque than that. So yes the GTI is definitely wet, probably a DQ381/DQ500. Not all Audi A3 are wet, the Audi A3 with the 1.4L TFSI has a DSG7 DQ200 0CW(2015-), but this is also a reliable transmission after 2015. On the DSG7 DQ200 0CW(2015-) VW says it is not necessary to change the oil in the mechatronic unit, it is oil for life or 200,000km. However many still chose to change the oil contrary to what VW recommends.

@KobraPun 3 года назад

@@dragospahontu the 7 speed DSG in face-lift 2018+ GTIs is a dry clutch set up. I work at a VW dealer and have had one apart.

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@KobraPun what gearbox code was it?

@KobraPun 3 года назад

@@dragospahontu 0GC

@mik55tv22 2 года назад

Its exactly the same transmission they just upgraded the clutches to be able to handle more torque than the previous 6 speed to be able handle the torque of the of the new Golf R and they changed the software to give better gas mileage thats about it

@tdkleffman 2 года назад

how can it be the exact same transmission when it has an extra ratio?

@Chairman-Mao Год назад

DSG is King

@shijima_ending 2 года назад

DQ250 is so much better. not only is it more reliable, but it feels much sportier (less smooth but in a good way) and shifts literally twice as fast (DQ381 shifts like a torque converter). that extra gear for highway cruising must be nice tho.

@kaurvali 2 года назад

DQ381 has a higher torque limit and holds more power. But from factory, the DQ250 feels much better as a sporty dsg, in the city for a normal person, the new box is better. But all of it gets fixed with a simple tune, makes it much better than the old box imo. But that is my experience, other may have different experiences

@tredfxman 2 года назад

Hence is probably why i got it on my GTI Clubsport. Now i only need TVS Engineering worlds best TCU tune for it! 👍

@koyamma9575 Год назад

Which is faster and suits in diesel dq200 or 250

@kaurvali 24 дня назад

@OverGrownApe_001 stock for stock yes, the same and DQ250 feels better when stock that DQ381. Tuned - DQ381 handles more, you can also see that on drag scene DQ250 owners have issues and DQ381 is ok. DQ381 is basically a repackaged version of the DQ500 but due to the smaller size it doesn’t hold as much power. Drivability on tuned versions is up to the TCU tune. On some tunes one is better, on others it is swapped. DQ381 has slightly longer gears and much longer 6th and real overdrive in the form of 7th gear. ANow back to acceleration - I have friends with a mk7.5 and mk7 R. Exactly the same mods, tune and on the same dyno power difference was 3kw. But the 7.5 is almost 0.2s faster to 100 and 1/4 mile due to the gearing and most likley shift speeds.

@jstephens6021 3 года назад

Does anyone really actually know if the new 2020 gti dsg and 2020 Audi A3 7 speed s tronic have a damn wet or dry clutch??? Like seriously I've seen dozens of crap online saying it's a wet clutch. And dozens saying it's a dry clutch. And nowhere to really find out the truth

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

It is as simple as follows. All manufacturers including VW put a dry clutch DSG on cars with up to 250-260NM. A wet clutch is reserved for engines with more torque than that. So yes the GTI is definitely wet, probably a DQ381/DQ500. Not all Audi A3 are wet, the Audi A3 with the 1.4L TFSI has a DSG7 DQ200 0CW(2015-), but this is also a reliable transmission after 2015.

@jstephens6021 3 года назад

@@dragospahontu dont seem so simple to anyone online lol. I have 2020 audi A3 S line 2.0t quattro. And it seems like everyone is confused on what exact transmission it is

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@jstephens6021 Americans aren't the brightest bunch out there.

@nickTAMR 3 года назад

Dq381 if you still havent find and its a wet clutch

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@nickTAMR correct. And for longitudinally mounted engines the code is DL. L for longbau and Q for quadbau. They are good entry level transmissions, and if you change the oil on time they will be reliable. The problem is Volkswagen doesn't explain to people the differences between a dual clutch and torque converter and that's where problems start to appear.

@Wolfpack310 5 месяцев назад

DQ250 all day

@Danny-yh3xb Год назад

If you don’t know the answer and just guessing , why reply at all

@thekoleroy_at_varsity4103 5 месяцев назад

6 speed slare reliable dq250... maintain them properly you'll never have headaches.. dq200 yikes reason why im selling my car .

@drewcook12 4 года назад

I'm pretty sure the 7 speeds are every 60k miles

@jasminm.3501 4 года назад

60k /km

@fredrikmardenfalkhoppe494 3 года назад

@@jasminm.3501 No, the DQ381 DSG g has 80K miles / 120k kilometer service interval.

@dragospahontu 3 года назад

@@fredrikmardenfalkhoppe494 On the DSG7 DQ200 0CW(2015-) VW says it is not necessary to change the oil in the mechatronic unit, it is oil for life or 200,000km. However many people decide to ignore this and change the oil, is it a good idea or not?