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Are 80 Ghosts enough to beat 120 Archons? 

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Watch giant armies battle. Can you predict the outcomes?
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Tya's Unit Tournament features epic battles between units in StarCraft 2, using music from the game's soundtrack. Units are chosen either Protoss, Terran and Zerg forces, or a co-op commander such as Raynor, Nova, Artanis, or Kerrigan. Units use their abilities as directed by a basic AI. All units use Legacy of the Void stats, the same units you'd see in SC2 e-sports controlled by the likes of Serral, Maru, and ByuN.
Though this project is a work in progress, and there are errors that will need to be fixed, so point them out if you spot any! The resource beneath vespene is the unit's cost in the mod I run on the SC2 arcade, Direct Strike. Enjoy!

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@Tya.
@Tya. 2 года назад
Me too, Tempest. Me too. 3/4. Got round 3 wrong. Yes I get to play too. Also yes my CPU cried during the reaper round. I don't know why I do this to my poor PC, it did nothing wrong...
@mikhailtimonin44
@mikhailtimonin44 2 года назад
can u plz do a bunch of landed vikings vs marines, no stim. Will be kind of cool to see the dps test
@MichaelSotoCE
@MichaelSotoCE 2 года назад
@@mikhailtimonin44 more landed vikings too. Vs stalkers and probes lol
@m3hdim3hdi
@m3hdim3hdi 2 года назад
What is your pc setup?
@GrommiD
@GrommiD 2 года назад
Thanks a lot, pure joy to watch your videos. Furthermore only one thing i dont like - in many battles only first lines are fighting, too many units are jerking behind. Maybe something can be done with that?!
@starcraft2f2p77
@starcraft2f2p77 2 года назад
Use Maar with different abilities
@SeventhSolar
@SeventhSolar 2 года назад
Can we talk about that single ultralisk decimating the lower reaper cluster? _Really_ presses the point home.
@Kassplaylist
@Kassplaylist 2 года назад
Ultralisk is one of the worst units in game. They do have 7 armor, which makes reaper only deal 0.5 damage per attack. 1 marauder behind those reapers and the ultralisk would be super dead in no time at all.
@mattor300
@mattor300 2 года назад
@@Kassplaylist ultras are pure tanks, they are bad only because of their size and slow speed of creep wich makes them kiteable, the thing with them is that on paper their stats are the best from all units (sure immortalls 1v1 them but they have no splash, plus they 1v1 just about anything) if you use them as intendent (as tanks for your damage dealers) they are amazing... Until they're not because ghosts, immortalls exist
@Fishbro
@Fishbro 2 года назад
@@mattor300 so wrong, they're bad because they can't move over other units like collosus can. They get stuck on zerglings It's a common problem that blizzard fails to address. They need to be made into "Massive Units"
@rkanava7245
@rkanava7245 2 года назад
And after that the 7 reapers left proceeded to kill 3 ultras in a row xD
@mattor300
@mattor300 2 года назад
@@Fishbro just as I said they are bad because they are big and cluncy
@anonimus966
@anonimus966 2 года назад
Who would win? An army of beings of pure overwhelming psionic energy Vs Some bois with sniper rifle
@drmuffin8403
@drmuffin8403 2 года назад
Turns out if you have an anti-psionic grenade you're fine
@Burt1038
@Burt1038 2 года назад
A few snipey bois. XD
@Darkside007
@Darkside007 2 года назад
Not just bois. Spookybois.
@flytamers7957
@flytamers7957 2 года назад
According to the games of pros - when high templars on one side face ghosts on the other - who casts first wins
@bthekuta
@bthekuta 2 года назад
2 out of 4. I jotted my guesses and reasoning before each battle. 80 Ghosts versus 120 Archons. Ghosts win due to EMP. 15 Ultralisks versus 500 Reapers. I know Reaper shots are like BB pellets to Ultras, but 500 Reapers are SO many. I think it’s close but I’m going with Reapers. 120 Mutas versus 40 phoenix and 10 HTs. This was a close call, but assuming the storms all hit, I’m going with the Phoenixes. If the Phoenixes are even a tiny bit microed (I doubt it here), then it wouldn’t even be close. 100 Cyclones and 10 Ravens versus 45 Void Rays and 10 Tempests. I feel like auto-turrets would be best here, but maybe the anti-armor missile. Regardless, I’m going with the Terran army. Cyclones are fragile but 100 is so many and they counter tempests well. I would be surprised if this was even close.
@shawnruby7011
@shawnruby7011 2 года назад
I thought the reaper mines would knock them up so I went with them lol
@joetec6674
@joetec6674 2 года назад
@@shawnruby7011 Nah ultras immune to slows/stuns
@ZC.Andrew
@ZC.Andrew 2 года назад
@@shawnruby7011 Amusingly enough, the grenades did more damage than the Reaper's auto-attack (5 damage as a spell, vs 7 -6, x2). they didn't knock back the Ultras but they were still very helpful.
@elonwhatever
@elonwhatever 2 года назад
Not to mention Tempests are great when you can kite and stay out of range. In a straight up fight though, they are next to useless.
@aazkaal
@aazkaal 2 года назад
Press F for that Reaper who managed to take down an Ultralisk just before dying.
@Devestator2150
@Devestator2150 2 года назад
I’m gonna call bullshit on the 3rd round. The storms were totally wasted on a spot the mutas immediately left, negating over half the damage.
@SaulGoodman3D2049
@SaulGoodman3D2049 2 года назад
As powerful as storms may seem when they're being used on you, they're actually fairly easy to dodge, especially with quick units like mutas. It is weird they didn't immediately cast it off cooldown, though.
@robertcuvelier6016
@robertcuvelier6016 2 года назад
Or merge into archons after storm #2
@Skorpion1991
@Skorpion1991 2 года назад
not really, storm is just really crap in sc2, its almost half damage in compare to storm in brood war and also as units are faster and quicker in reaction time they normally skip a lot of damage
@Devestator2150
@Devestator2150 2 года назад
@@Skorpion1991 Uh huh, and that’s why all the mutas ended up with 1/4 or less hp, which a storm would easily have done.
@ZC.Andrew
@ZC.Andrew 2 года назад
@@Skorpion1991 80 damage is not "almost half" of 112 lol. Yes it's weaker, but units clump more in SC2 so it's actually not THAT much weaker.
@TheBlaCkoR
@TheBlaCkoR 2 года назад
I haven't played StarCraft in at least 10 years but I'm watching every upload I see. Awesome stuff!
@jacen2256
@jacen2256 2 года назад
Loving the content! Keep it up
@momom6197
@momom6197 2 года назад
Seeing the archons evaporate was so so painful. 😭
@eddieblanton2981
@eddieblanton2981 2 года назад
You mean satisfying?
@djmoneyy
@djmoneyy 2 года назад
@@eddieblanton2981 no painful 😖
@veilnebula2411
@veilnebula2411 2 года назад
@@djmoneyy Oh but it was soooo satisfying
@horizonbravov2188
@horizonbravov2188 2 года назад
I was satisfied seeing the archons get rekt I dislike prottos stans
@djmoneyy
@djmoneyy 2 года назад
@@horizonbravov2188 says the Terran Stan
@riolufistofmight
@riolufistofmight 2 года назад
3/4, Overestimated void ray, underestimated Raven.
@jameswong4837
@jameswong4837 2 года назад
This storms were criminal 😂
@FedoraReshiramGaming
@FedoraReshiramGaming 2 года назад
Tempest : This vessel was not designed for social interaction me: your right, it was designed for social distancing, that's why your range is above 6~
@silas13013
@silas13013 2 года назад
2/4 I routinely underestimate the cyclones power and I assumed that storms would be enough to help the phoenix win
@thtupid
@thtupid 2 года назад
I'm pretty certain the first batch of storms didn't fully land. As in the mutas flew past them so they didn't take the full 80 damage
@lancelindlelee7256
@lancelindlelee7256 2 года назад
Yeah, the first round of storms mostly whiffed. If it was a bigger connect, fight would be much different.
@ZC.Andrew
@ZC.Andrew 2 года назад
@@thtupid It's pretty tough to storm Mutas, even for the AI. They're so fast they fly right through it.
@crazyapelsin1137
@crazyapelsin1137 2 года назад
Loving the video. Keep doing
@achromicwhite2309
@achromicwhite2309 2 года назад
I actually think that if the Templar were placed a few squares further back, that they would have bean the muta... the first lot of storms hit, but then the muta fly out of the storms when closing on the phoenix. If the templar are further back, the mutas have already engaged and are clumped and stationary, and would take a LOT more damage.
@luckylarry71
@luckylarry71 2 года назад
Nice! Really glad you've set up the Cyclone + Raven vs Voidray + Tempest. I was really looking forward to see how would this turn out.
@Skorpion1991
@Skorpion1991 2 года назад
unfortunetly you havent seen the army resources cost, dude cyclones has +50% more expensive army, so that fight says nothing about balance or anything. Because you can outnumber thor with the 50 drones and they would kill that thor but only moron would say that drones are super counter to thor because they won 50 vs 1
@luckylarry71
@luckylarry71 2 года назад
@@Skorpion1991 yeah no shit, really? I thought that not microing Cyclones, and just taking it on the chin is the meta, lmao. Thx, I guess
@Skorpion1991
@Skorpion1991 2 года назад
@@luckylarry71 normally protoss can also micro and void ray with speed have same speed as cyclones so you can't run. SO YEAH? NO SHIT SHERLOCK? OH REALLY?
@johanqin
@johanqin 2 года назад
idk why but these videos are so soothing lol.
@therealzizmon1748
@therealzizmon1748 2 года назад
Papi Tya always coming in clutch with these uploads
@hunterofmammoths
@hunterofmammoths 2 года назад
there will be songs sung and tales told around the ultralisk campfires about the one hero ultra who went up against a crowd of reapers by itself and fucking killed about 9/10ths of them before succumbing
@xenoaisam
@xenoaisam 2 года назад
that single ultralisk is like nom nom candy~
@Matt-ln7lb
@Matt-ln7lb 2 года назад
The ghost vs archon one was closer than expected. The Storm + Phoenix vs Muta one was decided by the Templar stacking their storms so not all the Mutas were hit. If all of the mutas were hit by 2 full storms, it would have gone the other way.
@hypocriticalrat3607
@hypocriticalrat3607 2 года назад
I'm the only one who regularly guess 0-1/4? Only once got 4/4
@shawnruby7011
@shawnruby7011 2 года назад
Commenting my 1/4 first round apathetic-choosing win.
@ilikedragons7928
@ilikedragons7928 2 года назад
0/4 got nothin right this time.
@NateBrotzman
@NateBrotzman 2 года назад
That hero ultra on the left side, man..
@duykhoinguyen2178
@duykhoinguyen2178 2 года назад
4/4. This video is easier to preditct than previous ones.
@Kujakuseki01
@Kujakuseki01 2 года назад
Guess we’re not doing a scenario where the ranged units stutter step underneath flying. The final match would’ve been even more one sided if they could’ve moved in to avoid the stacking around and waiting to fan out
@jasonyang6150
@jasonyang6150 2 года назад
Archons get popped like balloons xD
@jimmya
@jimmya 2 года назад
I'm sure this has been asked and answered 100 times, but what is the 3rd stat with the blue/red diagonal bars (after minerals and gas)?
@IsThisHandleTaken
@IsThisHandleTaken 2 года назад
I was screaming at those high templars to keep casting storm. Lazy buggers
@alejandronieto4212
@alejandronieto4212 2 года назад
I really thought High Templars would carry this fight.
@IdealIdeas100
@IdealIdeas100 2 года назад
2:20 I can see the edge of the textures
@aarondrivesabus
@aarondrivesabus 2 года назад
3/4. fucking ghosts
@ninjadejedi
@ninjadejedi 2 года назад
I don't think anti-armor missle would help the cyclone in any way since the lock-on is an ability attack so it ignores armor in the first place.
@Skorpion1991
@Skorpion1991 2 года назад
it does some splash damage anyway, it is around 20 damage splash per rocket so its really big, and also cyclones shoot normal attack after ability is over so it also help them in that way. My question is why that terran army was so big and expensive? it was around 150% of protoss resources wtf? Especially that cyclones aren't bad against void rays, they counter each other so why 1 side get so much resources advantage? that is the real question
@ninjadejedi
@ninjadejedi 2 года назад
@@Skorpion1991 balance, with good micro it hard to catch cyclone, while void rays are void rays, they are only good at specific time: Before the Terran get out any good units for example
@sal2988
@sal2988 Год назад
Yo Archons can't catch a break. Ghosts cost half and pwned them so hard.
@user-wm9vi2fc7t
@user-wm9vi2fc7t 2 года назад
1 round i think easy to arhons, but suddenly remembered this us not Artanis arhons...
@OldSpaghettifactory89
@OldSpaghettifactory89 2 года назад
Finally an answer to reapers. Always so dumb that their grenades are thrown out with more speed and precision then any person could do. Most of the time not remotely fair.
@scp-scp--ev8eh
@scp-scp--ev8eh 2 года назад
3/4, i didn't expected mutas to win, at all.
@daikatarokamegawa542
@daikatarokamegawa542 2 года назад
Lol this one was literally "spam E to win"
@wowditto
@wowditto 7 месяцев назад
Archons have insane shield but very low hp so wit hthe ghost emp i knew archons were gonna be destroyed
@davidchoi9674
@davidchoi9674 2 года назад
Protoss didn't have a good day today
@PowdergameFan18
@PowdergameFan18 2 года назад
1/4. I finally figured out my bias. I always favor Protoss, and I always favors Zerg if there’s no Protoss.
@buttergod42
@buttergod42 2 года назад
4/4 EMP good Reapers can’t hurt Ultras really If the mutas dodged the first storm which they did it was easy I just like to vote for cyclone, anti armor missile good too I guess
@flytamers7957
@flytamers7957 2 года назад
3/4. If only first psy-storms went 1 sec later when mutalisks stacked more...
@horizonbravov2188
@horizonbravov2188 2 года назад
Ghost forever
@jeanpierrevilchezgarcia2301
@jeanpierrevilchezgarcia2301 2 года назад
Marauders VS Dragoons
@codonbyte
@codonbyte Год назад
So if stalkers get to blink in these battles, why don't reapers get to kite?
@joshthompson8478
@joshthompson8478 Год назад
1/4 But I thought I was safe never betting against void rays
@giannisgt28rs
@giannisgt28rs 2 года назад
balance from lidl:)
@isaachoffman6450
@isaachoffman6450 2 года назад
Micro would change these results, I'm sure
@matis8287
@matis8287 2 года назад
2/4 I though Psi storms could kill them all, seems like not.
@453565qet
@453565qet Год назад
What's the point when the mineral value isn't fair to both sides.... It's just a guess game unless you know exactly all ratios.
@idodeclare6804
@idodeclare6804 2 года назад
archon deals bonus damage to ghost, and they are aoe, so it's a pretty even fight after all
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 года назад
"even"? Archon got 1 shot by Ghost after the EMP and you call that even fight?
@idodeclare6804
@idodeclare6804 2 года назад
@@tigera6 archon have 350 shield, emp deals 100 shield damage each, archon deal 35 damage to ghost a shot. a ghost have 100 hp, so 3 shot a ghost, and it's splash damage. a ghost need 4 emp and 1 shot to kill a archon. it is an even fight imo. archon is a good unit man, basically only ghost can some how evenly trade with them
@tigera6
@tigera6 2 года назад
@@idodeclare6804 except you forget that EMP deal splash damage area like a SUN. Literally 9-10 EMP is required to take down the entire shield of the Archon group. I know Archon is a great unit, but vs Ghost its just unfair.
@samuelsnyder4601
@samuelsnyder4601 2 года назад
Why do void rays hate Will?
@Eonflare55
@Eonflare55 2 года назад
Errr, were the Templar supposed to merge into Archons after using their energy?
@jimmya
@jimmya 2 года назад
The AI for this is a weird mix of perfect and useless micro. Blink stalkers will defensively blink perfectly, units will never waste their time targeting interceptors, spell effects are well spread out, but everything else seems to be A move.
@katsu9738
@katsu9738 2 года назад
I know Cyclones would win but i tried to believe on my Protoss homies. 3/4
@felipemaciel4450
@felipemaciel4450 2 года назад
Yeah but is 230 supply protoss vs 320 supply terran
@ivanmarquez2218
@ivanmarquez2218 2 года назад
Ravens pulling up weight.
@nathanaelac1297
@nathanaelac1297 2 года назад
A bad day for protoss :(
@espurr3496
@espurr3496 2 года назад
If we get SC3 ghosts need a rework, counters late game a lil too hard and useless against Terran
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 2 года назад
Ehh, not really. As spellcasters go, ghosts are balanced. Sure, EMP decimates shields and remove energy, and snipe is incredible single target, but you can compare that to high templar, who have the perfect anti spellcaster feedback, and the massive area damage of storm, along with protos units being very tanky. Them for zerg, you have vipers, with there spells to remove enemy units ability to fire and to grab enemy units from far away for a rapid execution, and infestors, with the almost paralysing fungal and neural parasite for literal mind control. Overall, ghosts are strong, but within an army they don't tip the balance of power any further than other spellcasters, good positioning and micro is still king.
@kennyawho6444
@kennyawho6444 2 года назад
@@Santisima_Trinidad thats funny you say that cuz ghosts are the next unit to get rebalanced in the next patch. just like lurker, mines, queens and voidrays got reworked. ghosts are at the moment the best unit in the game and are a bit too proficient. they are too strong against everything. they basicaly have no downside once you get them.
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 2 года назад
@@kennyawho6444 huh. Intresting. Can you link me to those ghost checking patch notes? Or is that just hearsay?
@kennyawho6444
@kennyawho6444 2 года назад
@@Santisima_Trinidad you can check harstem youtube channel. he recently made a video about the future of starcraft 2 updates as he and many other pro players are and will actively be in touch with the game balancing and updates in the future. in that video he said that the first patch was to fix the most urging issues like voidrays, lurkers and queen marches as it made PvZ a very uninteresting matchup and they didn’t want to make the update too big. he also said that now that the first patch was implemented they were going to work on the next big issue aka the ghost. here is the video : ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EJ1eM_PEz7k.html
@Santisima_Trinidad
@Santisima_Trinidad 2 года назад
@@kennyawho6444 so, i watched the video, and i didn't hear him saying anything about patching the ghost. The only time i heard him mention ghosts at all was in relation to a potential change to the carrier, which would require a chnage to the brood lord in response which would then affect a chnage in the TVZ matchup, be it to the thor or the ghost. So, unless you can provide a timestamp to something i missed, which is a possibility, that video doesn't actually prove anything. The "next big issue" statement is ambiguous, it could be talking about the ghost, it could be talking about the zergling. And he specifically said that he can't really say anything about the next balance patch because it's all just discussion at the moment.
@af2547
@af2547 2 года назад
2-4
@alexandreblanc9294
@alexandreblanc9294 2 года назад
Why the storm arrive 30 meters to far and after 12hours a new one spawn?!??! I shoud be right for this one normally... but the IA is so dumb...
@elonwhatever
@elonwhatever 2 года назад
Are 80 Ghosts enough to beat 120 Archons? Do the Ghosts have EMP energy? Yes? Well there's your answer
@user-ow2ln3pw7d
@user-ow2ln3pw7d 2 года назад
Kinda ironic to have protoss be so infamous for being the race with the least amount of micro required to be successfull...to be the race bullied the most in these scenarios.... Granted the AI Ghost EMPs are probably faster then an actual average sc2 player but still...unless we have immortals or DTs vs anything that Is ground excepted each races' T1 units, protoss gets the short end of the Stick in most scenarios...
@kennyawho6444
@kennyawho6444 2 года назад
i personaly don’t think protoss needs less micro than other races but the protoss units are stronger than other races units on normal maps. the fact that these scenarios are played without chokes or highground or obstacles makes these fights less ladder accurate. also in these fights it was normal for protoss to lose. ghosts with ai micro counters archon pretty hard and cyclone with lock on counters both void ray and tempest.
@pablovirus
@pablovirus 2 года назад
Protoss needs a lot of good micro especially early on and mid game. The only real problem is the stupid Carrier
@kennyawho6444
@kennyawho6444 2 года назад
@@pablovirus yep
@darkdimi7928
@darkdimi7928 2 года назад
Thats 3rd round stinks.
@jorvananggara9191
@jorvananggara9191 2 года назад
ezpz lemon squeezy. jk i got lucky this time lol
@fierzali6297
@fierzali6297 2 года назад
Round 3 storms brought to you by a fortnite gamer.
@sergritm
@sergritm 2 года назад
easiest 4/4 in my life
@ZinXlX
@ZinXlX 2 года назад
Ghosts are really disgusting, they can practically win against anything they fight with and they cost way less than the units it often is used to kill. EMP is just too good and Snipe just straight up murders anything fleshy then it also gets a cloak and an ability to drop nukes.... Dafuq.
@user-ow5zj3uu9n
@user-ow5zj3uu9n 2 года назад
Wooo first 4-0
@Skorpion1991
@Skorpion1991 2 года назад
4th battle: I have completely no idea why terran army was +50% more expensive???? and If you agree that match like that has no sense, so why did you made it?
@alpha-vt2hl
@alpha-vt2hl 2 года назад
Why protoss army so weak
@ShadowAimai
@ShadowAimai 2 года назад
Archons are really disappointing on SC2.
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