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Are All JDM Imports Now Banned In Massachusetts?? - What I found today: June 17 2024 - Part 1 

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For those without Facebook, you can access the action items here as I get updates. Currently we are in contacting the state legislators mode: anythingwheeled.com/projects/...
Please join and share if you have a JDM vehicle currently registered in MA and if you recently got it if you ran into any issues and which branch.
Massachusetts JDM Imports Advocates:
/ 336260509363859
update*** Mercedes a journalist from The Autopian investigated deeper into this and wrote this June 20th
www.theautopian.com/massachus...
Sorry it's late just a lot to process from today but this is the gist of what I gathered so far. I took notes of all the people's names and everyone I spoke with through the day. I am trying to compile this info together and gather input from other people to figure out what we need to do to stop and reverse this.
As far as I know Massachusetts is no longer friendly to registering fresh off the boat imported vehicles with a short vin under the guise of safety.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:49 What MA seems to be attacking - short vins
2:34 Importing vehicles under the NHTSA 25 year exemption
3:04 What I got from spending my time at the RMV today about their new policy/rules
6:52 What can we do about this?
9:00 Preliminary issue I'm trying to gather info for. Should we be worried for existing owners?
10:36 Started MA JDM Imports Advocates Facebook group
11:54 Are we also screwed if someone buys a US titled JDM short vin'd vehicle or just import papers?
12:43 Updates and state reps
#jdmcars #importcars #banned #keitruck #keicar #jdm #massachusetts #ma #marmv #kei #cars

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Комментарии : 70   
@gadgetorian-rctechgadgetsm4566
@gadgetorian-rctechgadgetsm4566 Месяц назад
I don't know if I'd wait for MA to figure things out because once the ball starts rolling, it will be hard to stop. The guys in Texas didn't wait because of this. Everyone should start stirring the pot(peacefully and diplomatically) now because it sounds like they haven't entirely figured this out yet. I'd be proactive now that you know and start trying to resolve this before the state goes through the effort of rolling out training videos, procedures, etc. Best of luck man. I'll be following this for sure.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
The pot stirring has begun. I reached out to a bunch of people Registrar (RMV top dog), state reps and senators, various RMV department people) I am gathering more MA people to join the Facebook group for the template on what to email them and call to talk about. You can always insert some personal details pertaining to your situation. In the pinned post with the template I also provided the MA site for searching your reps and senators info.
@ransomgarage
@ransomgarage Месяц назад
Thank you in advance for your efforts.
@kateheekin4753
@kateheekin4753 Месяц назад
I'm in Western Massachusetts. Happy to lobby- just need to know who to bug and how. Thanks so much!
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Join the Facebook group for the template on what to email them and call to talk about. You can always insert some personal details pertaining to your situation. In the pinned post with the template I also provided the MA site for searching your reps and senators info. Thank you!
@jakattah
@jakattah Месяц назад
Red tape alive and well. I'm in Australia and when we import vehicles we have to go through compliance. Part of the process is to add a state code to the Japanese car number for a legal vin number. We are going through a phase of only being able to import cars, both new and old, that have low emissions. My mini truck fits the low emission standard, but I see now they are going on about safety standards, which is a tough gig. My feeling is the car industry in the future is biased towards people buying ev's.
@SpeedHero
@SpeedHero Месяц назад
America is threatened by the Kei truck. It's a reminder that small vehicles can do work. Please note that NHTSA is an insurance company project designed to serve the insurance companies. It's initial intent was sound and good. The US government relies on this private company to make their safety decisions for road rules. However, since the inception of NHTSA, American auto manufacturers have slowly purchased up many of the insurance companies that make up the NHTSA's controlling interest. By the late 90's NHTSA reached an engineering/economic problem: -Consumers demanded new cars be more attractive each year. Bigger, Faster, Stronger. This affected NHTSA as new cars had to be ranked as safer than older ones, and in reality they are. However, this was achieved in two ways: Sliding the measuring scale slightly to make the new improvements each year seem bigger than they were, and to sacrifice efficiency and drive-ability to ensure that on paper the car was safer (For the occupants) if it got into a collision. Though it's possible to argue that the cars are more likely to have collisions due to their larger weight, higher roll over and greater dimensions. As this continued to stack up, this short term solution, and dilution of the original intent of NHTSA began to slowly kill the American auto industry. Combined with the broken CAFE standards the only thing profitable to manufacture was SUVs, Trucks and Large Cars as they were the most attractive to new buyers on paper by the very metrics guided by the controlling interests of NHTSA. So the snake has finally bit it's own tail. Since the US created the 25 year rule back in the early 80's to combat the flood of efficient vehicles from Europe and Japan during the Oil Crisis recovery years, they've accidentally created this problem they have today: The Golden Era of Japanese cars are finally eligible for US import and the US public is READY for small efficient cars as the conditions of the Oil Embargo Recovery period are almost mirrored in today's conditions of the gas versus electric war currently happening. So many states are now bending to outside pressure to force consumers to buy US vehicles which are pigeon holed to be stupid, big, difficult to drive, and less useful designs that aren't a very good value or attractive vehicle. The one thing American Car Manufacturers are good at? Everything other than building good cars.
@DarthanisGalbraith
@DarthanisGalbraith Месяц назад
I reached out to Brian W. Murray Vice Chair Joint Committee on Transportation who also happens to be my State Representative just the other day about this trend. His response was slightly dismissive in my opinion but hopefully my short essay helped lol. He responded with this "Thank you for your email. I am not aware of any pending legislation in the Massachusetts House of Representatives to ban what you refer to as “Kei” trucks."
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
It's not legislation it's someone in the RMV administration that is changing this.
@DarthanisGalbraith
@DarthanisGalbraith Месяц назад
Again, I was unaware of your video till just now. I had reached out independently of your issue. Just figured I'd chime in.
@ADVPosers
@ADVPosers Месяц назад
​@@DarthanisGalbraithAh ok sorry I missed that bit. So did you reach out because you were denied or you were hearing about this?
@DarthanisGalbraith
@DarthanisGalbraith Месяц назад
@@ADVPosers I've been seeing people on reddit talking about their states banning Kei trucks. I was bored and watching TV and figured I'd do something productive. I would recommend reaching out to Mr Murray regarding your DOT issues. Nothing ventured?
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Whoops replied on wrong account 😆 anyways I am going to be reaching out to the other reps outside of my district in the coming days. I drafted up an email template I shared on the Facebook group in the description.
@Waybeforethefame
@Waybeforethefame Месяц назад
They're trying to stop kei is the way
@daletom9871
@daletom9871 Месяц назад
Kei will always be the way even with the haters. JDM is also the way.
@cspeigner
@cspeigner Месяц назад
In the interim, consider looking at Montana. Montana will give a registration and tag on almost anything, and in most cases you don;t have to take the vehicle into the state.
@wesleypellettieri
@wesleypellettieri Месяц назад
Massachusetts gives out of state drivers 60 days to change plates. Once you get pulled over, the clock starts.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Yes but your Montana based LLC is the owner of the vehicle not your name. So technically that doesn't apply. Example of how all the U-haul trucks and vans are Arizona plates.
@cspeigner
@cspeigner Месяц назад
@@AnythingWheeled Yes, but LLC's are cheap and having a legally titled and tagged Kei is worth every cent.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Oh I know. I was considering it for the double decker tow truck I was buying already anyways but this event could force my hand to give up all my plates. My vanity's tho... 😆
@JimsEquipmentShed
@JimsEquipmentShed Месяц назад
Count me in, I’ll mail out what ever you have. Yea, I’m worried. Maine pulled theirs, there was no grandfathering. And mass is a crappier state…..
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Join the Facebook group for the template on what to email them and call to talk about. You can always insert some personal details pertaining to your situation. In the pinned post with the template I also provided the MA site for searching your reps and senators info.
@sonnyszyszko
@sonnyszyszko Месяц назад
Glad you made this video. Got denied last week and tried antique route and got denied there too. No explanation on any of the verbal or written responses as to why these are denied. Hot rods and other custom builds are fine. Let’s figure this out. Go team.
@GTASAModder1
@GTASAModder1 Месяц назад
We need to start complaining now before it’s too late.. too many people lost their papers to the state and now have giant paper weights… I have a hiace sized van on the way that I paid good money for.. it should be illegal for the state to play with people’s money like this… it was allowed and now it’s banned with no warning? No vote? Just a person decided?? Crazy.. I’m not wasting time. I’m looking up who I need to contact to get this sorted and I hope more do the same
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Join the Facebook group for the template on what to email them and call to talk about. You can always insert some personal details pertaining to your situation. In the pinned post with the template I also provided the MA site for searching your reps and senators info.
@LoneStarKei
@LoneStarKei Месяц назад
Remember to be kind to legislators when calling. This is not their decision. It's the decision of unelected bureaucrats at the RMV. The MA legislature supervises the RMV and can put pressure on them to help reverse the policy.
@oliver-
@oliver- Месяц назад
Unfortunate to see and I fear Arizona is not far behind. There have been issues already registering kei trucks and vans. They’re only issuing Motorcycle/Side by side tags for them at some MVDs, meaning they are restricted on what roads they can and can’t drive on. Hope you get things figured out, sucks to see such silly rules put in place.
@robertlord7911
@robertlord7911 Месяц назад
No. A person who did go to registry and filled in forms put zeros in front and said he had no difficulties. Simply what I was told so not in anyway official.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Worth a try if they're just after short vin. Was this recent?
@tylerholbrook8634
@tylerholbrook8634 Месяц назад
Gotta make this known and stop this bullshit before it gains speed
@seancoxe1094
@seancoxe1094 Месяц назад
When I imported my Suzuki Carry here to Arizona, I ran into the same short VIN problem. However, the reaction of the folks down at the DMV was to figure out a way to get it registered and titled anyway. Their problem was that their computer system wouldn't process the shorter VIN (not a pseudo-safety issue in a state that licenses ATVs to travel the roads). In fact, they also informed me that if I had collector's insurance on the vehicle, they would waive emissions testing. The response across the country is entirely patchwork, with some states (AZ) restricting kei vehicles to secondary roads, some states insisting on off-road only, and even requiring a governor be installed. I think our best hope is that thousands of these vehicles are imported every year, and, as they become more and more common, common sense will prevail. (Also, the American market for jdm imports is a big business in Japan. Maybe they could get their government to issue 17-digit serial numbers for any vehicle leaving their shores.)
@hiroshi138
@hiroshi138 Месяц назад
So strange that Massachusetts would do this because I'm constantly hearing about how states shouldn't be interpreting federal law (immigration).
@jay_Jalapeno
@jay_Jalapeno 24 дня назад
if you need to reach out to a state rep , the attleboro rep is a car guy, he used to race at seekonk speedway
@robertlord7911
@robertlord7911 Месяц назад
About a year ago. It just throws them for a loop. If all the boxes are filled I heard all was fine. They called it a pickup truck. (Carry)
@mike6207
@mike6207 Месяц назад
Some of us just wants a useable truck bed not a monster truck
@xvdifug
@xvdifug Месяц назад
Mass RMV is a state entity, you should be able to file a FOIA request, Freedom of Information Act. for all documentation regarding this entire fiasco!
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
I already did the other day. Not sure if I did it properly since I've never done it before. I will find out soon enough I guess.
@xvdifug
@xvdifug Месяц назад
@@AnythingWheeled also use certified mail to be certain
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
@@xvdifug oh it was done online on their portal as they requested
@stenchybeats
@stenchybeats Месяц назад
You’d think they’d want the tax revenues cashing in on vehicle registrations. Instead were forced to pay taxes in other states in order to register these. What a backwards world.
@ohheyitspaul
@ohheyitspaul Месяц назад
Same shit is happening in Michigan now
@chevyhead7274
@chevyhead7274 Месяц назад
So i have a Toyota Celsior n I didn’t even know about this i have not got anything in the mail or from insurance yet wow
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
You may be ok... For now... 😆 www.theautopian.com/massachusetts-is-banning-cars-from-japan-without-telling-enthusiasts-why/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1lnCxCkrX6vxy-ClxD0U-CKh5LApGD2ng8cSxXQ8WKxJLaIQhGCclo7FA_aem_ZmFrZWR1bW15MTZieXRlcw
@chevyhead7274
@chevyhead7274 Месяц назад
@@AnythingWheeled yeah now ill just wait for mail luckily i know most of the local police i were i drive my car lol
@TheRealMrRoboto
@TheRealMrRoboto Месяц назад
You should Contact Louis Rossman.
@KISSFanDan1995
@KISSFanDan1995 Месяц назад
We should lobby against this. If they're doingt this to JDM vehicles then EUDM vehicles are most likely next.. Talk about supposedly living in a free country..
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Join the group, I have a template on reaching out to the state reps and senators. Get updates or discuss with other people on if they got denied or got through.
@robertlord7911
@robertlord7911 Месяц назад
I was told to add zero's in front to make 17
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
By the RMV staff?
@paullane8798
@paullane8798 Месяц назад
Begs the question, what is the specific safety failures? And what would need to be modified in the design to meet safety standards? Designing an American clone is tempting.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Crash testing and having certain equipment? Maybe a kit car or home built route?
@paullane8798
@paullane8798 Месяц назад
@AnythingWheeled this article from NHTSA from 2010 I believe, is good information. Sounds like NHTSA in the past did not consider mini-trucks "motor vehicles" (in terms if street legal) as they were used on farms and campuses. I think because the manufacturer did not certify the vehicles to the safety standards, they are considered not valid. www.nhtsa.gov/interpretations/09-001270as
@JimmysLittleTrucks
@JimmysLittleTrucks Месяц назад
Sue them. Seriously do it. No law was changed, some bureaucrat is effectively making up laws. That can't be allowed.
@LoneStarKei
@LoneStarKei Месяц назад
Suing should be the emergency option. Not the first.
@JimmysLittleTrucks
@JimmysLittleTrucks Месяц назад
@@LoneStarKei the entire lot of state employees needs to understand that they aren't lawmakers. So sure, if the legislators take quick action on your behalf to call them out for that, agreed, but otherwise the longer you wait to sue, the longer your garage has a brick you're not allowed to drive sitting in it. I'm in talks with my congresswoman in my state to try to get legislation on the books to clarify all this (in our favor) because it's clear our secretary of state is in the initial stages of pretending to have power it doesn't have.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
Which state are you in?
@JimmysLittleTrucks
@JimmysLittleTrucks Месяц назад
@@AnythingWheeled IL
@LoneStarKei
@LoneStarKei Месяц назад
My thoughts on suing is that it's been tried a couple times and has failed. It creates enemies and closes doors. It also sets legal precedent when you lose, which will make it harder for other states if they ever have to challenge this in court. It also takes away money that could have been used for what you inevitably need, which is legislation. More states need to be proactive and push for legislation, even if they aren't currently facing any issues. I commend you on taking steps to protect Kei owners in your state. We are here to help, if you want it.
@jay_Jalapeno
@jay_Jalapeno 24 дня назад
what the hell would they do then with my 74 chevelle ...
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled 24 дня назад
Nothing for now. Maybe one day later on it'll be time for those.
@peytonhopkey
@peytonhopkey Месяц назад
Since when does state government over rule federal government?
@LoneStarKei
@LoneStarKei Месяц назад
They are federally legal to import. But that doesn't grant you the right to operate them within any given state. States have the authority to regulate their roads however they see fit.
@draggonhedd
@draggonhedd Месяц назад
all of this shit about safety and road standards rings hollow as fuck when you consider that motorcycles are still allowed on the roads.
@user-mp4wc2ul2i
@user-mp4wc2ul2i Месяц назад
Ring up or whatever you have to do to get it registered (in not in America so don’t understand all your laws) DO NOT MENTION THIS NEW LAW AT ALL. Once it’s registered they legally can’t take it off you, issue sorted. If the person on the phone brings up the law. Hang up and ring back another operater. Same thing you’d do if you didn’t like the insurance quote you got, you ring again to try get cheaper 😅 or in this case someone who doesn’t know the law so will register your car
@qasamkhan2685
@qasamkhan2685 Месяц назад
صئد
@joshuasnow2169
@joshuasnow2169 Месяц назад
It’s hilarious the reason sited that Kei trucks/vans don’t meet FMVSS, but the whole reason you can import them is because they are 25yo+ and they’re literally federally exempt from FMVSS requirements… if they are exempt from something you can’t claim they don’t meet that requirement, they do, they’re exempted from it! They can be registered here in California but you can’t drive them on the freeway even though they can do it. But I can completely legally ride my CRF230L on the freeway, which is terrifying and not at all fast enough to do freeway speeds comfortably. So silly. Lobbyist whoever you are, you suck we just want our mini baby cars.
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
In the update it seems to be determined that they're after the kei trucks and vans specifically but they don't know how to chase it other than by short vin. Now it's even dumber because if that's the case their argument of those vehicles not meeting FMVSS so it's not allowed but the other imports not meeting FMVSS are ok is even sillier.
@AAANDN1
@AAANDN1 Месяц назад
Part of the solution - stop voting for demorats -- hope ya learning
@AnythingWheeled
@AnythingWheeled Месяц назад
You say this like they don't do this crap in the Republican states. There are 200 members of the state legislature. I believe 29 of them are Republicans. You're pretty much out numbered and screwed if you aren't the riding on the big D like everyone else. The people that were voted in didn't do this. Some unelected Karen is doing this.
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