The worst of all was Dumbledore telling Snape "I sometimes think we sort to soon". Even he seems to be thinking Slytherin is just the bad people house and when learning more about Snape's character instead of overthinking his prejudice he just tells him he should have been in another house. His last minute house points in Harry's first year did already show that attitude. Slytherins worked hard the entire term earning those points but he disregarded that on a whim deciding that the "bad house" did not deserve the House Cup as much as the Hero's (and at the same time his own) house
only if you choose to view it that way. Remember, the Hat sorts according to a person's strongest traits and values, but not their only ones. He may have been commenting that Snape's strongest values lay in loyalty or steadfastness. That doesn't have to mean he was insulting Slytherin House; only that he was musing that perhaps the Hat might have given a different result had sorting occurred later. The Hat thought it was never wrong, but it was made by imperfect human beings, ergo, it must be imperfect, ephemeral, - like all things made by humanity.
Don't forget that Snape would favor Slytherin more than other houses and he would take points from Gryffindor just because Harry was in it. Not justifying Dumbledore but reminding that Snape wasn't entirely fair either.
@@alejandrogonzalezakamintyt2242 Yes this is true. But I cannot help but wonder whether this behavior was born out of resentment about how the other houses always seem to team up against Slytherin
@@mrmacura3421 I don't know as he would also rather favor other houses over Gryffindor, as shown in the second Quidditch match on Philosopher's Stone where he would give penalties to Hufflepuff or find excuses to make it seem like Gryffindor was playing unfairly.
Yes, because Umbridge is nothing if not ambitious. Everything she does is to satisfy her sadistic character (which is a trait of no house) and to get into a position of power. She's the most Slytherin of all villains in the series.
@@chendror872 I would say it's cause she thinks she is doing the right thing. If you asked her what character alignment she had in D&D I think she would say lawful good. She's following the law mostly but sometimes rules have to be bent to do the right thing. That Potter boy's a liar and he's making the ministry look bad. Sometimes kids just need tough love and clearly these kids need help if they're siding with the wild animals (centaurs) that attacked and traumatized her (Ron and Harry even think it's funny to remind her of her trauma). We can all agree that she was at the very least *traumatized* by centaurs but she's made enough of a recovery to go back to work and even be happy enough to cast a patronus. She's the hero of her own story in her eyes.
One name: Andromeda Tonks. She stood up against her own family and married a muggle born and supported Order of the Phoenix even though she wasn't officially part of it.
Im a gryffindor but I think that even though you are in a house with specific traits, you don't always have to follow those traits. Even I think that I should be in slytherin or hufflepuff. You make your own story and you can be as unique as you want.
I love how the Hogwarts Legacy made a little redemption to Slytherin with Professors like Ronen or Sharp and of course Sebastian (who is everything but not evil)
To be honest, as a Slytherin we just couldn't care less about being good or evil that's why those goodie-two-shoes wannabes out there are upset ...and 'obsess' about us so bad to these days, you're welcome.
That is true however it is a fact that slytherin house has produced most amount of dark wizard hufflepuff being the least however there are always exception for sure
I like slytherin being dark. We think dark as evil but it is not. In fact most of the universe is dark with some patches of light. Most humans don't like darkness cuz we are not built to survive in darkness. But there are animals who prefer dark night.
At least Hufflepuff has better members that Ravenclaw. They has Cedric, Tonks, Newt, and probably Mad Eye Moody and Kingsley. Ravenclaw just has Luna and Flitwick
I know Slytherin is not supposed to be evil but unfortunately the books (as much as I love them) do a poor job at conveying this. In Harry's fifth year all houses are represented in the DA - except for Slytherin. They all seem to allie with Umbridge, seing how her Inquisitorial Squad included quite a lot of them (and no students from other houses). And then at the Battle of Hogwarts Slytherin House is the only one to not defend the school. There are still more instances of Slytherin being portrayed as the "bad house" and by far not all of them are due to Harry's prejudiced point of view
I really hated the moment when Slytherins were banished from Hogwarts. It would have been a perfect chance to show that not all snakes are evil and selfish, but... 😔😔😔
@@SanghaBlack Yes, this was definitely the biggest of missed opportunities. I know JKR once said in an interview that some of them came back with Slughorn and the Hogsmead people but that's not actually in the book and it feels like she is trying to retcon things because she realised she wrote nothing positive about Slytherin
@@ruthanna4713 If she's contradicting or adding things in interviews outside of the books, then yeah, I'd say the books did a shoddy job in what she was trying to convey.
Salazar Slytherin's desire only to accept pure-bloods was not only morally abhorrent but hubris in the extreme. Undeniably, magical folk were popping up among muggles, and you can't have people wandering around doing things they can't control, using potentially dangerous abilities they don't understand and generally causing mayhem. In that light, the founders' acceptance of all magical folk was both practical and moral, particularly given the poor state of magical and muggle relations at the time.
I was just given the real time demonstration of that philosophy in the reply of my comment in this video, love that you also mentioned about this ! Have a nice day
I was sorted into Slytherin 7 times in a row and met a lot of other people sorted into my house. I wouldn't say we're evil. We just know what to do with what power we have and we're not afraid to do what needs to be done to see our ends met. One of my friends used that dedication to save a business from going under. Another used it to make sure his son could stay in school and have food on the table. Another theme I've noticed is we tend to claim people. Personally I use it to make sure my grandfather lives a comfortable life in his later years. When we love someone we see them as an extension of ourselves. So apply that arrogance and intolerance of disrespect to that and you have yourself an extremely defensive loved one.
My only problem with Slythering (well, besides the pure blood thing and Umbridge), is how creepy their common room seems to be. I imagine being only 11, missing your family and spending all your free time in a dark, greenish place.
I think it's also worth to mention that the sorting hat doesn't just look at your personality traits. He also looks at your values. This is shown in the first book when Hermione, Ron and Harry are trying to get to the sorcerers stone. I don't recall exactly what Ron said. But Hermione responded with how she finds friendship and bravery more important than books and cleverness. I'm not exactly sure what she said but it was something along those lines. Furthermore, I also think the hat looks into where you'd reach your biggest potential. The place where he sees that you can grow the most as a person. A beautiful example of this is Neville. Sometimes you may get sorted into a house that seems contrary of your personality, cause it's the traits that are valued in this house that will give you the space to grow the most. Neville wasn't exactly the bravest in the beginning. But he grew into a beautifully strong and powerful wizard towards the end, who helped in defeating voldemort. And lastly, it does also take your choice into a count if you have preferences. Clearly, we've seen that with Harry. So, indeed, no need to feel bad to be a slytherin. You may wear it with pride. That another slytherin may turn out to be bad wouldn't mean that you will be.
@@dfabulous No, he only said Hufflepuff because he didn’t believe in himself to be a true Gryffindor (despite clearly valuing and wanting to be in it). Luckily, the house saw through that and placed him in the house where he truly desired and would grow as a person in 😊☺️.
Not Slytherin aye? Are you sure? You could be great you know. It’s all here in your head; and Slytherin will help you on the way to greatness there’s no doubt about that, no?
andromeda tonks , regulus black, severus snape , horace slughorn , cedrella Weasly ( previously Black) Phineas black , Adrian Pucey and a lot more characters that i cant remember now, these are just the one who had more impact 😅
Slytherins aren't evil, they're people who will do what the have to get what they want. Does that sorta mindset have to be evil? No. Can it be? Oh heck yeah. But when put to a good cause that sorta ambition be amazing.
I never thought being a Slytherin meant you have to be evil, it just means your hardworking and want the best out of what life has to offer in my opinion
We brothers and sisters have someone that no house had..... we have MERLIN You know, if Morgana were in Gryffindor, it would be a lot more ironic. I love Hagrid and Ron, but their prejudices against Slytherin made Harry's opinion
Maybe slytherins would be less likely to turn towards the dark arts or follow dark wizards if they received as much care and support as the other houses 😌 when you tell an 11 year old they’re evil, who are they to try and convince you otherwise?
I believe I would be sorted into Slytherin, but that does not mean that I would practise Dark Arts from day one. We all have choices, and houses that we are sorted into does not make us only good or only bad
Whether or not they are all evil is irrelevant. The house was shaped around bigoted ideologies that were never challenged or examined. The founder of the house left behind a vicious monster so that he could make sure muggleborns were punished for what he viewed as theft of magic. As a result a child died. And his ideology was echoed almost one for one in Voldemort. And even then it's not like anyone learned their lesson because those ideologies remain prevalent in the house. Their password was even pure blood for a while. I'm not saying all slytherins are evil but with how much harm the house has done it really has no business existing.
He is an elitist, an opportunist and prejudiced. He viewed muggleborns being proficient with magic as an anomaly. That's not to say he is evil but it does highlight how even average people can be indoctrinated by corrupt ideologies.
@@Brandon_Powell none of what you said matters. The question was is he evil or bad?? What you listed are human traits. Humans sometimes fall short and need to be educated.
And if we take a line said by Scabior into account, Slytherin house didn't forbid muggleborns and neither did Slytherin himself. He says you rarely see muggleborns in Slytherin. But rare, means there have been some and that Slytherin wasn't against them, he only wanted it to be all magic households. Given he lived during times when superstition ran rampant and people with magic were being born, it could be interpreted as he wanted muggleborns to be raised by magical households. If that is true, then his concern about muggleborn students was for their own safety and from their actual families.
That's selection bias. Most Slytherins are normal people. You're sorted based on the traits you value. Slytherin's traits are ambition, cunning, and pride; Ravenclaw's are wit, wisdom, and individuality; Gryffindor's are bravery, determination, and chivalry; and Hufflepuff's are loyalty, justice, and patience. In Crimes of Grindelwald we see a flashback of a young Leta, a Slytherin, being bullied by two Gryffindor girls, and vilified by the rest of the school. There's also Snape, Regulus, Slughorn, and Merlin, who was taught by Slytherin hisself. There are also the many Slytherins who are regular people and don't feature prominently in Harry's life.
I’m a Hufflepuff and I agree with Slytherin on many things. I don’t blame him for not wanting non-pure bloods in Hogwarts. Muggles have shown to be an extreme danger to the wizarding world and he felt it first hand. I believe the basilisk was also a defense mechanism, and that he would’ve used it to defend the school from anyone that decided to attack. Keep in mind it was magically resistant. I don’t blame the founders for being scared of having such a creature in Hogwarts, but it makes a great last ditch defense. The heir of Slytherin didn’t have to use it for complete evil, it was up to the heir.
just came to coment, nope, they`re just usually bullyed and belittled, so when they can get power and revenge they might accept it. Now i can go since i comented this, BYE
Andromeda Black, Regulus Black, Professor Slughorn ...these people are good people!! Snape was neither purely good nor purely evil . Even the players of Slytherin quidditch team were nasty , but not outright evil as we have never seen them engage in criminal acts other than petty jealousy.( except the trio of course).
Slytherin is not evil like you think it is because of Voldemort and Salazar it is actually great and good and friends with Gryffindor they are not evil they are just ambitious only no anything and that ambition is actually low
I am thinking of buying Hogwarts Legacy when it's gets discounted at 50 $ or less then when creating character,my character will be in Slytherin because i have ambition to learn cool spells that will make my character a badass anti-hero wizard who strikes from the shadows.
To be honest, I personally wished i have a personality of a Slytherin, because i am so lazy when it comes to my goals all the time. I'm just a Gryffindor.
