Are Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl THAT BAD? 

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“These games were revolutionary” Me: go on… “They introduced Wormadam” Ya know…he’s right

The clunky feel explained: The world models are built in 3D, but their collision hitboxes are still on the 2D grid. You still have to move exactly in the 2D grid, hence the constant bumping and clunky feeling

I agree that the remakes are better than the originals. However I disagree that they are better than Platinum. I think Platinum is still the overall superior version, because it handles Pokémon and item distribution (especially for evolution items) across the game much better than the other games. Also, the Giratina plot is simply the better story line in my opinion.

I enjoy these games alot however I do wish they had all the platinum changes in the remakes.

"A game you play as a kid will be easier as an adult" Me fighting Cynthia: so that was a fucking lie not that I'm complaining

My gripe with these games being faithful is... who ever asked for or expected faithful remakes to begin with? Every remake since has greatly improved upon its predecessors with an upgraded experience. Bdsp however doesn't really add anything. I see many people saying "keep your expectations low" but is that really acceptable for a series that already set certain standards? Dppt remakes were the most anticipated remakes in the franchise so of course the standards were high. Bdsp is a nice D&P remaster but is isn't much of a remake at all.

There’s a lot of reasons everyone wanted platinum remakes than dp. The differences between them is night and day. Seems platinum is still the definitive version

I wished Diamond and Pearl would have got the "HGSS/ORAS-Treatment". A complete and real remake with new storybeats, characterdesigns, Mega-Evolution and so on and so on... But what we've got was a IMO pretty lazy remaster with nothing new

you tellin me back in the days when yellow came out they could manage to keep an interactive moving pikachu sprite following you step for step but 20+ years later all we have is companion pokemon that fall behind then appear next to you when you go too far ahead.....

The issue people have with the Gym Leader and Elite Four DP teams is trainers like Volkner and Flint having their team be half or more Pokemon that aren't even the type those trainers are supposed to be focused on.

"I don't see why people care about Platinum team changes" It's very simple: because the electric gym leader has water and normal types and the fire elite four only has 2 fire types out of his five pokemon. Less than half of his team is his type.

I can't speak for everyone but I know for myself, I cared about the Platinum Pokedex simply because the Diamond/Pearl one is so LIMITED and it gives both important characters and random NPCs kinda... bad teams just because they can't have Pokemon that would fit them better. It stifles team diversity in the main game too. The rare spawn in the Underground kind of help that but it's still bad Pokemon distribution pre-National Dex. Also locks a bunch of the new evolutions introduced in Sinnoh out of the picture until the post-game which sucks.

They are not awful. But if someday I want to play through Sinnoh once again, and if I have a choice, I'd boot Platinum without a second thought. Or, better, Renegade Platinum. *cough* exactly what I wish BDSP were like *cough* Yeah. The feeling of liking a from hack more than remakes.

As someone who hasn’t played a single Pokémon game since… diamond and pearl, it’s fine. I’m an adult now and I’ve beaten the game and had fun.

The affection mechanics were never really removed. The Switch Games That You Wish Not to Name simply consolidated them into the friendship mechanics, so if your Pokémon are happy with you in those games, SwSh or BDSP, then they steadily start unlocking the bonuses tied to those. I loved making curry for my Pokémon in SwSh, which _really_ boosts their friendship, so I accidentally unlocked most of the affection bonuses for them when I was only 1 or 2 badges in that game, lol.

I describe this entire game as one step forward, and one steps backwards. Everything they did well and correct was oddly marred by something. The graphics got an upgrade (thats good), but the movement wasn't made to accomidate it (thats bad) the underground gives unique pokemon (good), but by interacting with it your pokemon quickly break the power curve (bad) the routes are long and interesting again, but the trainers are less rewarding and are now just an annoyance (cross reference the power curve) its a one to one recreation, but we added nothing of real substance.

They are ok games they are safe games, i rate them 7 out of 10. I love what they did with the undergrounds, how late game gym leaders and elite four members have EVed teams with completive moves and items. I just hate the affection feature and the forced EXP Share. The graphics are ok like the Chibi style as that what every game from gen 1 to 5 was but you can tell they were rushed.

Gambling was probably taken out because any simulated gambling in a game in Europe requires the PEGI rating (Europe's ESRB) to instantly be rated for 16+, even if the rest of the game is totally harmless. I imagine ILCA/Game Freak was trying to avoid that because it would probably hurt sales for parents seeing an "16+ rated Pokemon game"

As a competitive player, it's a bummer that they rolled back a lot of the qol improvements they made in sword and shield. No candies/hyper training and breeding takes forever again :( also no dedicated queue for only battling and no online leaderboard is a huge L as well. Edit: also with the exp share also sharing evs to your whole party for some stupid reason and no easy way to undo them like sw/sh it's a pain in the butt to get the evs you want too

BDSP is a good game if you have never touched Platinum. It hits that sweet spot where it's significantly better than DP, but a good bit worse than Platinum.

Everyone wanted an ACTUAL remake. This is a remaster (everything is 1 to 1 the same) at best, and a rushed one at that. A remake creates it’s own formula and enhances the old version. This ain’t it chief.

10:30 Swalot is actually in BDSP, you just gotta find a Gulpin in the Great Marsh after obtaining the national dex.

5:55 A reason could be because of the very limited dex DP has. Say you want to use Gliscor in a Playthrough. Well that's too bad for you cause you have to wait till post game to get the Razor Fang for the Pokemon who's supposed to be native here. I don't really mind the Gym Leader teams because I think the different types of Pokemon that fill a theme like Flint are actually interesting compared to the same typed Pokemon but the dex is a *very* big problem DP has.

The problem with the movement is that the game is made with a tile system from the old games and it doesn’t account for diagonal movement

I still don't like the chibi style myself, but outside of that they're fine. Platinum is still and most likely always will be the way to go when it comes to Sinnoh though, at least for me.

Gen 4 has never been a favourite of mine for a variety of reasons. One being how much they lock out until post game. And this remake didn't do much to change that, infact it felt very phoned in overall.

for someone who already played the gen 4 games, this remake didn't change enough things to justify buying the game "again". I feel like the previous 3 remakes did a lot more. especially the gen 2 and 3 remakes.

Day 57 of asking why they didn’t remake Platinum which is the definitive game of the region.

Honestly, the reason people expect a post-game is because they are fully priced games. I expect it also

2D chibi ≠ 3D chibi I actually dont understand how people can defend this. Chibi in drawing/sprite will never translate to 3D models. They always look fugly, no matter how good the person model it Also doesnt help that the game's general looks like a cheap plastic that crumbles on your hands

My emotions were just all over the place with this game (and that's never happened to me in regards to a Pokemon game). And now I'm just left here being like "Well, it's a 'faithful' remake to _Diamond & Pearl_ but was it worth it?" And now I'm nervous about Gen 5 remakes.

Gonna pick up shining pearl probably this weekend Also looking forward to having customization options for Dawn was disappointed in oras when I couldn't customize May after playing x and y

As disappointing as not getting another HGSS style remake is, it's still better than the original DP, and I think the comparison between BDSP and Platinum is just down to personal preference. I love that I can just build a new team if I want to temporarily increase the difficulty and try out some new mons. In Platinum that would be hours of grinding.

I *was* going to get brilliant diamond when it came out, but get distracted by SMT V. No regrets. I'll just wait till x-mas for the remakes.

nobody was asking for an identical remake of diamond and pearl, they were asking for an enhancement like oras. of course people are disappointed.

IMO the most egregious thing with the Pokédex was the fact that some evolution items to evolve gligar, dusclops and Rhydon were locked to postgame and therefore couldn’t be used on a playthrough team

When I played this game I realized how long it had been since I’d played diamond and pearl. I’ve only played platinum for the last 10+ years so It was refreshing not remembering the differences between the two

There's a scene that keeps playing in my head whenever I imagine the meeting for these games. It's obviously, only in my head, but I'd say it's likely TPC: Ok, ILCA, can you remake Diamond and Pearl in time for november 2021? ILCA: November 2021? Isn't that cutting it too close? TPC: Great, good luck, that's the deadline

So on the topic of exp share I recently played a romhack that solved the exp share issue without destroying it Their solution was to have not only a button to turn it off but ALSO a exp cap button that caps to the current gym level so you can utilize the exp but not out level the current level of challenge. It was super refreshing and useful tbh! Hopefully something like that is implemented in the future

It's not worth 60$... If you get them for 40 or so it's a good pick up. If not just play the originals. They look so much better and are better in my opinion.

One reason DPP (well, Platinum) was so good was in contrast to gen 3. That being said, some of the features like the Underground and the Poketch were innovations for improved features for the DS. I wish they had invented some features that were special to the Switch.

"There aren't 30 minute tutorials in this game" I always see how fans completely ignore how this game forces you through tutorials as well.

The movement issue is simple. The maps are a 1:1 of the old games. The old games maps were designed around 4 directional movement. Adding Omnidirectional movement makes it much easier to run into this games invisible walls. That’s why there is a glitch where you can skip past most of the 7th gym leaders puzzle

I was expecting a remake like alpha sapphire and omega ruby. I was disappointed

Depends on everyone's expectations and preferences I myself hated the chibi style at first but grew to like it (the cutscenes still look awkward) it's like that one remake zelda got

I’m only at 5:30 but OMG YES. Getting past two objects is so frigging frustrating. And then you get hunted down by a ‘mon in the Grand Underground.

I’ve been playing shining pearl and so far I’m having a really good time. I know everyone keeps saying it but the art style really did grow on me, even though I wasn’t a fan of it at first.

my biggest gripe is the zoom-ins when a trainer sees you then the awkward reset to the normal camera right before the battle starts

"Removing tedious grinding does not make a game more or less challenging because grinding is neither hard nor fun." A truth bomb that I 100% approve of being dropped!

I surprisingly disagreed with many of your points, such as the team wide EXP share.

I demand compensation for my keyboard getting splattered with my drink when you brought up the ILCA bit at the start lol

Gulpin can be found in the great marsh in the post game! You can use it to become the contest master once more!

I'm enjoying these games. My only problems are the Chibi's are a little weird to look at zoomed in close in cutscenes. My second is shiny hunting can take a little while longer because of the 10 second black screen that shows up before the beginning credits.

The elite 4 wad really solid, i went in blind and actually lost to cynthia because of the ice berry BUT for almost the entire game i was overleveled by 10 to 15 lvls with every mon and i couldnt use some of my mons much because they got disproportionately more exp. I didnt use Grotle at all becuse it was 2 lvls above the rest of my team until it was lvl 38 or so. Fuck that shit and everybody who thought forced exp share is a good idea

$80 + tax in Canada. Not worth for a remake.

Glad to see your content has evolved

I personally haven’t enjoyed a Pokémon game this much since gen 5 tbh. The enjoyment I’m getting did catch me off guard tho because I thought I wasn’t going to like them much

There's absolutely no way people think this game had the worst music in the series. Literally NO WAY.

I have also been having movement issues. Not just getting stuck on corners or falling off of ledges, but in menus too. I keep flipping to other tabs while trying to scroll, and I accidentally killed my rivals pokemon while doing a double battle with him in the story while trying to hit my opponents pokemon

Statues aren't for just decorating your base they make certain types of pokemon more likely to appear

They're great. The only things I'm upset at are the 32 underground NPCs needed for spiritomb because they're distributed in 28 areas and there's not much way to know which 4 have two NPCs that spawn

the remakes are filled with some things having invisible walls which makes you get stuck on them basically they have janky collision boxes

Hey, thanks for these videos. Every video feels like I am sitting with an old friend and just vibing. I adore the "Nintendid" series, I absolutely would pop in a live stream if I saw you live on YT :D Personally I am not a fan of twitch at all

Thank you!! I’ve missed actual fair critique of Pokémon lately. Good video.

These games are very good and fun to play for sure. But I don't agree that it's better than Platinum.

Honestly, it just feels lacking to me. No palmer theme it’s Cynthia’s one, not any cosmetic changes for the team galaxy building, no episode platinum, strange order of the gym (unlike platinum), no snow in twinleaf, not enough encounter with cyrus and cynthia (unlike platinum), not any conclusion for the team galaxy story, etc. In short : lacking

Thanks for sharing; you can actually get Swalot in Brilliant Diamond(and Shining Pearl too I believe) via daily catching a Gulpin at Pastoria Marsh Post Game I believe

Im loving the visual glitches. My drapions head keeps getting stuck in the stairs when going up 😅 I'm enjoying the game and I'm glad you did too

3:56 From my experience the remake still has some slight screen tearing. They really were faithful lol

I encountered a bug while playing where my Pokemon were called something else. My Luxio (named Nala) was evolving and the game said 'Blix is evolving' Floatzel (named Wily) was evolving and the game said 'Misty is evolving' I hated the level scaling in this game. Trainers on the routes were a solid 10 levels behind me from after I beat Maylene but my levels for the gym leaders was only slightly higher. I didn't see the challenge or benefit to battling some of the lower level trainers since they weren't worth much. Drifloon was a problem for me. The only trainer encounter is in the Hearthome gym. So long as you aren't an idiot, you can solve the maths questions and get through to Fantina. If you don't beat those gym trainers, you are locked out of the post game until the following Friday. That was especially painful since I beat the game on the Sunday after release and without screwing with the game clock, I would've had to wait another 5 days before getting the national dex. Clunky is the game, not just the controls. The shiny charm only affecting breeding hurts me too. Why not have it affect all the other encounters?

Fun fact: My right bumper button wasn't working so I couldn't use defog and walked through the area without it. I have since bought a controller to remedy the issue going forward, but it was possible if not extremely frustrating.

not sure why they didn't keep the TR/TM split but I assume they didn't use multi use TMs because the gems you dig up in the underground are mainly used to buy TMs so if you make TMs reuseably the underground would either be very irrelevant very soon, or an infinite grind fest because they'd need to up the prices for the TMs if you only ever needed one of each

I agree that the movement is a little clunky I've been using the d-pad and pressing B to run in tight spaces it makes it much easier navigate without getting caught up on a wall

At the end of the day, the reason why people are disappointed is because they expected Platinum content and quality of life improvements. ORAS was more like Emerald. HGSS were like Crystal. FRLG had all the Gen 1 content and more. The definitive version of Sinnoh is still platinum

I think the main reason the post-game of Pokemon is felt as mandatory is because it's the only truly immersive side-content in most of them. Pokemon almost never has side-quests (and when it does they're by-and-large brief fetch-quests), so the post-game is the only real way to enjoy a mainline Pokemon game outside of the increasingly stale "eight gyms, evil team, elite four, champion fight" routine. Though that might just be how I feel about it.

I like it but it's hard to get through knowing all the platinum stuff is missing.

I wish I could get a refund. Oh well, it’s only $60, but they aren’t very fun. Edit: The “said pokemon avoided the attack,” is just stupid. Oh hey, I have a Milotic with a flame orb and marvel scale. Nah, the Milotic just wants to cure itself of the burn, negating the ability. The RE2 remake was incredible. True to its source, but enough innovation to play as an entirely new game

Brilliant Diamond and Shining Pearl only get worse the more you look into it. There's so much evidence to how rushed the game was and how many corners were cut.

Lmao the skillshare sponsor break was sooo smooth

I miss the arcade/gambling place too! I knew I was forgetting something about these games thank you for mentioning that!

Yes. The art is lazy. They should have at least used the Let’s Go graphics.

Weirdly the best part of BDSP seems to be the glitches especially copying Pokemon & turning non-shinies to shinies. Too bad Platinum wasn't the one remade much like HG/SS was a remade Crystal

I’d love to see a sequel to these games called Lustrous Platinum or something like that. If they stay as faithful to that game as they did to these, then it would be the absolute best way to play the Sinnoh games.

I really loved them, they were really fun and now I have some new pokemon in my collection :)

I love it and can’t get enough of it! The art style takes me back to the old days and it looks beautiful!

The whole "people clamour for this, then complain when they get what they 'wanted'" is getting really old. This is clearly not what the fans had in mind. Of course they're going to complain. "Revolutionary" is also bit much for the originals. The Physical/Special split actually originates with the Shadow Moves of Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness, and was probably originally planned for Gen III initially, so I *strongly* hesitate to credit it to Gen IV, or to accept it as an argument in their favour. Beyond this, it was technically flawed, and had a painfully slow engine. Coming off Emerald, I found them a massive step back. The reason people would care about the Platinum dex expansion is because it actually includes the newly-introduced Pokémon that are postgame-exclusives in the original Diamond and Pearl, which had a painfully narrow regional dex with a hugely unbalanced type distribution (this was also a flaw in Gen I, but you would think better would've been learnt four generations later). The "Postgame" standards are probably at least in part influenced by the whole second act of Gold, Silver, and Crystal, and by FireRed and LeafGreen (which have the extensive explorable Sevii Islands) and Emerald (which has the Battle Frontier). They set precedents, and when people really like a feature, they want it to return; the thing is, Gamefreak tends to leave these as what I call "removeds" in subsequent games. The number of "removeds" is, at this point, more than a little ridiculous, so things being taken out irking fans is reasonable. I don't suppose the game needs to be "trashed", though, but I think these things specifically (which are dismissed by the video as incomprehensible) do bear remarking because there are VERY real reasons people have strong feelings about it. I didn't like Diamond and Pearl themselves, so I've skipped out on these games, but I'm going to be sore over Sword and Shield for a LONG time.

Thanks for the review. Made me feel nostalgic since Pokemon Diamond was my first pokemon game (and I would still have it if my friend didn't kill my game back then), but I felt a bit too tired to play this game and train up a team again, sigh.

These are the best Pokémon games in years, and easily the best Pokémon games on switch.

Granted this was an issue from the old games, so not exactly an issue with BDSP themselves, but it was certainly one that could have been fixed for these newer games - certain Pokemon are either only obtainable extremely late in the game, or outright impossible to get until the postgame or National Dex are unlocked. So certain Pokemon physically can't be used on a playthrough team whatsoever unless you happen to know someone who can trade it to you, and not everyone is going to be that lucky. You wanna use a Yanmega on your playthrough team? You're completely out of luck, you need the National Dex to find Yanma at all. You wanna use a Gliscor on your playthrough team? You're stuck with Gligar til the postgame.

I remember when I was catching one of the Regi, my Luxray survived 3 times with only 1 hp just because of Luxray love me 🤣🤣🤣

that was such a smooth transition to the sponsor

I think the only plus side to it was... I didn't need to use bidoof as an HM slave and being able to change up the team... as a little kid I didn't understand how stats and the move pools worked so my team either sucked or it was the typical staraptor, lucario, etc. But this time around I tried out a different team. Jynx surprised me the most, being able to get the ice type pretty early and slaying the crap out of the gyms and team galactic with that sp attack.

All I know is now the Black & White fandom must rise and say: “Black and White remakes when?”

Im sad there's no Looker Postgame from Platinum. I love sidequest/story types of Postgame since those give something to do if still filling out Dex

Nice video. Yeah I did enjoy the originals and I’m enjoying shining pearl, I have about eighteen hours in it so far and I’m still having fun.

Pluck strats op. I'm glad they remade gen 4. I'm looking forward to playing these remakes. The health bar is so nice now.

Short answer: yes. But pokemon fans are always blinded by nostalgia,so they always follow up that with "bUt I hAd FuN".

people care about platinum teams because flint's dp team is meant to be fire based and has a steelix. because dp only has 2 fire types in its regional dex. also gulpin and swalot are in the game, they are post national dex though and i believe random through the trophy garden. The one thing I would say elevates this above platinum is that all key trainers are now EV trained, meaning even if their levels are relatively low in places they still have the core stats to try to turn things around. Its very noticeable in the elite four's platinum and final teams you can unlock, where you can be like 20 levels higher than them and still be slower.

That add-in of Slash did make me laugh 😂