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Are Cheap Used HGST Hard Drives Any Good? 

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In this video I discuss if it makes sense to buy used HGST hard drives. HGST drives in both 4 and 6 terabyte versions are commonly available on sites such as eBay and Amazon. I decided to buy some to see if the were any good. As a disclaimer I am not an expert in any of this, and I would only recommend putting important data on drives like these if you have a backup of said data.
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@shodan6401
@shodan6401 7 месяцев назад
For people who find this video, one thing to consider is that HGST is pretty specifically an Enterprise brand (or was), not a Consumer brand. This usually implies higher quality. MORE IMPORTANTLY, what I have found is that every single HDD that has a sleep mode has died. Every. Single. One. Now I use a small utility called "NoSleepHD" that I configure to write to an empty TXT file every nine minutes, since Sleep Mode usually occurs at ten minutes. I also leave my computer running 24/7. Since using this tiny utility, I've never, ever had a hard drive failure. That's from a 100% failure rate across multiple drives to a 0% failure rate. Because these used drives likely had a 100% up-time, I would trust them, but that's just my opinion...
@Crytoma
@Crytoma Месяц назад
Agreed
@arhamzarif6313
@arhamzarif6313 12 дней назад
what do you mean by "died"? I'm planning on buying a few for my home NAS
@1ku0k
@1ku0k 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review and analysis! Was seeing these pop up online and wondering how good they are as the value is just unbeatable. You helped clear a lot of doubts!
@andromaxi3797
@andromaxi3797 4 месяца назад
In my experience, HDD to get : hgst, Hitachi HDD to avoid : Seagate, WD
@Villivakkam
@Villivakkam 3 дня назад
HGST and WD are same company now.
@brianj9262
@brianj9262 Год назад
I have 8 and they've been powered on for 3 years. No problems at all. Planning on getting another 8 bay and 8 more. Thanks for the video
@DLRez
@DLRez 4 месяца назад
I've been buying used hgst drives for years now. Just bought 7 x 10tb for $50 each!
@neolordie
@neolordie 25 дней назад
Wow that's some pretty awesome prices, I can't seem to find those in europe unfortunately, found a 10x4 for 100€ (all of them) but they're sas so idk
@Villivakkam
@Villivakkam 3 дня назад
that is a pretty good price. I haven't seen 10tb less than 70.
@CLEVERCAT-iq4kt
@CLEVERCAT-iq4kt Год назад
Really nice deal duuud, congrats!!!
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
Very useful video, thank you!
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад
I have literally HUNDREDS of "used" HGST enterprise model hard drives - teh older ones, 2 and 3 TB models, have had *1* die in the 6-8 years I've had the 15 or so. The more recent drives, mostly 14TB with a few 8 10 or 12 TB models, have had *2 drive out of well over 200 - but I've only had those for an average of about a year. The WD "Ultrastar" line are the SAME drives - WD bought out HGST about a decade ago, but were forced to operate them as a "separate" company for most of that time - they finally were allowed to fully merge them in a couple years ago or so. I also have a few "used" Toshiba enterprise model drives, that have also been reliable so far - a couple of those are pushing 15 years old.
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
what are you using them for, trying to gauge intensity and use case
@bricefleckenstein9666
@bricefleckenstein9666 3 месяца назад
@@javajav3004 I have had a lot of them as boot drives, the rest used in Boost and Chia mining. Much lower intensity on writes, comparable to many but by no means most drives in a server on reads. They also never spin down - which HELPS on their lifetime, that's the worst thing you can do to anything electrical mechanical OR electronic is frequent on/off cycles (even once per day is bad). It would be a near-perfect use case for Shingled Magnetic drives.
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Fantastic, thanks a lot amigo
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
@@bricefleckenstein9666 Thanks amigo thank you so much
@dieglhix
@dieglhix 7 месяцев назад
I have one and they are excellent. Mine was from a Taiwanese server and still going strong after 4 years I purchased it. HGST is the best HDD brand
@fragalot
@fragalot Год назад
I've bought these cheap HGST/Deskstar "(Renewed)" drives from Amazon in the past (smaller 2 and 3TB drives) and they work very well. I've only had one SMART alert popup about overheating. When I check the drives I can't even see which one had the SMART error... I didn't even think SMART error would go away or correct it self. Regardless they are running inside my homemade NAS 24/7 operating just fine.
@kanayanfantv
@kanayanfantv 3 месяца назад
Use fans to blow the heat off. HDD hate hot and cold
@pennakira
@pennakira 2 месяца назад
Thank you for the video! looking for some drives for my Unraid NAS.
@thadoggma
@thadoggma Год назад
My 120 tb zraid6 zfs file, streaming and game server uses 24x 12gb/s sas 6tb ultrastars, that have around 8k hours on them. They've treated me great other than the single 80k hour drive in the array giving me occasional hiccups. It's always recovered itself- but I've got a few cold spares when it fails for good. I've also got another array with 24x HGST 2tb Sata drives that have 130k hours in only 40 power cycles- and I haven't had any problems with them yet. I switched to the HGSTs after buying nothing but WD Blacks for 15 years prior. The blacks have gotten really unreliable over my last 12-15 new drive purchases. I still got nothing but love for the original black 1tbs I've got with 120k hours on them and no problems. I'd take one of those over a new WD any day of the week!
@andre-le-bone-aparte
@andre-le-bone-aparte Год назад
Very cool review. Looking at comparing the used 6TB Drive route versus LTO-7 Tape Storage. The Price to Value get's dicey when you think about a hard drive being 5+ years old.
@Eman2000
@Eman2000 Год назад
I would think the hard drives versus tape decision would be driven largely by use case. If you are looking for backup solution you don't intend to access very often, the tapes are probably a better idea. If you need to access or change data semi regularly, using hard drives would likely be much more convenient. Though the tapes would almost undoubtedly be more reliable.
@Darenz-cg9zg
@Darenz-cg9zg 2 дня назад
depends. for most people who just need a few TB, you can safely set up RAID and replace drives occasionally when they fail.
@CNC295
@CNC295 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the info. Have they held up?
@Villivakkam
@Villivakkam 3 дня назад
Very good video. the power on hours would be the age of the drive? Mine doesn't have date of manufacture.
@juicycs
@juicycs 9 месяцев назад
Great Video Ordered 8tb for $50
@jayrock4ya
@jayrock4ya 4 месяца назад
$40CDN, low health they said. I got 4 and gonna run them in a raid 6. hope runs great for you!!!!
@ricardobimblesticks1489
@ricardobimblesticks1489 23 дня назад
I am I wrong that the pick bubble aint no static bag? ie It might produce little static but it offer no protection from static.
@butmunchass
@butmunchass 8 месяцев назад
I have one of these. I wouldn't use it for a system drive for the long run because it's very noisy and gets hot and is very slow to boot/load games but for archival storage works good.
@andrewchristiansen8311
@andrewchristiansen8311 28 дней назад
I have a 10GB IBM drive from 1999 that spins up and holds data fine. I still have files from when I was 9 years old on there. I got a samsung 640gb from 2010 running surveillance and same for an old 09 barracuda 1tb. Found a few old WD blues one laptop 500gb and desktop 1tb with less than 100 power on hours so yay free storage!
@andrewchristiansen8311
@andrewchristiansen8311 28 дней назад
Also got a 20gb samsung laptop drive from 2005 that I just plugged in 20 minutes ago and wiped and partitioned it & its works fine. Probably use it to run pFsense on my old 09 acer netbook. I forget how much space pFsense needs but that should work hahaha
@o0Hotiron0o
@o0Hotiron0o 3 месяца назад
Thank you
@LanHikari90
@LanHikari90 10 месяцев назад
It's just hit or miss. I had a couple WD drives fail on me, as well as one or two Seagate drives over the course of 20 years. But there's one 160 GB Seagate hard drive that I'm still using to this day as a "temporary trash data network share" and it still runs fine. Why am I using it? Just because I find it funny it's still running with 0 reallocated sectors. I think, I got that one somewhen around 2005-2008. I bought new hard drives, used hard drives. I've used them in high utilization NAS systems (with ZFS, etc.) and they work. The whole "dOn't bUy uSeD HaRd dRiVeS." crowd can go suck a dong. You can even buy refurbished / used hard drives with warranty on them, so I don't see a problem here, especially if you run them in a redundant RAID configuration and also have your backup routine sorted.
@squidben5780
@squidben5780 11 месяцев назад
In 2019 I bough 2 on amazon supposed NEW they looked a bit used seller gave a separate waranty not in original package and they were both 2013 escalate to amazon with pictures. Both refunded They were marked from Dell but HGST.
@fallenkeith5885
@fallenkeith5885 Год назад
On ebay, I got a 6 tb for $36 and a 8 TB for $43. I have no complaints :)
@Iinustechtips
@Iinustechtips Год назад
link for 8tb?
@oculosprudentium8486
@oculosprudentium8486 2 месяца назад
I only at least 4 of these hgst drives and they still going great
@nilsfrahm1323
@nilsfrahm1323 Год назад
I will give you interesting points: Disk platter surface also goes old. If you test by writing file, reading back, it will look fine, as charge on each sector is fresh. But after few years, reading that sector can give error. Use HDD-Scan utility to do read scan and check if many sectors have higher read times, like 100ms or more. In that case, means hdd has trouble reading and may even be doing data recovery internally to retrieve the data. Indicates surface quality degrading. Such corruption in filesystem is hard to detect. A trick would be to store the files in zip archives, you can use 'Store' option to avoid compression. Zip archives have CRC checksums and if it gets corrupted, it will indicate it when you extract. Do not make extremely large archives, if it gets corrupted, you can lose all files. Advantage of zips is that small files are added into one file and writes to hdd are continuous, with less seeks and tear. Filesystem can also show sizes and file count faster when you have less files. Or use tool like ExactFile to write in each directory a checksum file, with MD5 signatures. You can later verify files are still correct.
@kanayanfantv
@kanayanfantv 3 месяца назад
Good. I just bought an old HGST drive with a deleted SMART and the vast majority of sectors sits in "< 20ms"
@ersendal2466
@ersendal2466 2 месяца назад
great insight , thank you. how about multipar against zips
@xxsecretspartanxx
@xxsecretspartanxx Год назад
Hey I watched your video all the way true, really interesting! I bought one if these drives before I looked into it, may I ask what do I need to run one of these drives? I've just got a regular pc and I've never seen the connection of the drive before. Sorry for the noob question 🙈
@Agate87
@Agate87 Год назад
You need a power connection from the PSU and a sata connection to the motherboard.
@Steve-mp7by
@Steve-mp7by 2 месяца назад
I bought two 2TB HGST drives from goharddrive in 2014 and they are still going strong. I had to retire them because I need more space. It sucks I have to dump them because they are great drives but not enough capacity
@GeorgeENorkus
@GeorgeENorkus Год назад
Concerning the reliability of the drives, I looked at a site that claimed the early generation drives should be good for a million hours and the second generation for two million hours, (I don't have any 2nd gen drives). The earliest my Hgst drive was manufactured around 2011. If they ran 24/7 for nearly 11 to 12 years, that would be somewhere around 90 to 100,000 hours. Based on the overall time, that tells me about 90% of the drive life expectancy still remains. Well... I hope at least. That tells me to go for it and save a ton of money.
@alexanderwhite8320
@alexanderwhite8320 Год назад
MTBF is not same as life expectancy. Google tecnical docs about them. From my experience the life expectancy is from 20 000 hours for low-end laptop hard drive that is carried around or WD Green or Blue drive that have the head parking antifeature. For high-end drives the life expectancy is about 60 000 to 80 000 hours but some of them can go almost indefineatly.
@UTFapollomarine7409
@UTFapollomarine7409 Год назад
i have a 1tb been using over 10 years as well for just files and a small amount of gaming, if its just sitting on windows and maybe loads a few files sometimes they can last well over 10 years.
@Napert
@Napert 11 месяцев назад
That's MTBF or estimated time when 30-something drives will still be working out of 100
@mikakorhonen5715
@mikakorhonen5715 2 месяца назад
False information.
@ejonesss
@ejonesss Год назад
is western digital still making hgst quality drives but just renamed as western digital? or have they started cheapening the drives?
@hariranormal5584
@hariranormal5584 Год назад
no they are not, whatever HGST had all of them is merged with WD. If HGST drives exist, they are just a re-brand and basically a WD. This might be because a OEM, Cloud Hyperscaler etc might have a contract with the original HGST name so they still get the drives from "HGST"
@UTFapollomarine7409
@UTFapollomarine7409 Год назад
no HGST was always kind of HITACHI HGST and hitachi makes each other drives all my HITACHI hdd have the HGST tag on them i believe is japanese capacitors.
@user-hv9sg5pl8b
@user-hv9sg5pl8b 8 месяцев назад
I bought two of them a week or so ago for a NAS I just set up. They worked perfectly so far. I've bought two more that should arrive tomorrow, I will use these for my back-up drives. Price is great, the ones I bought last week have a 3 year warranty, and the ones that are arriving tomorrow have a 5 year warranty. I've been told, the longer the warranty, the newer the drive is. I don't know if that is true.
@williamlau7179
@williamlau7179 7 месяцев назад
The warranty claim shipping is very costly, is it worth? No ! If data has been backed up, these hdd are for play play... 🍻
@daleriff
@daleriff Год назад
Yes I love them I got one that has over 60000 hrs from 2015
@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm
@Mr.SharkTooth-zc8rm 2 месяца назад
YES!
@tigerbalm666
@tigerbalm666 Год назад
I just ordered a HGST 12tb drive today. Heard they were most reliable. Recertified with 2 year waranty...will see if they are gud...
@peterbird3932
@peterbird3932 Год назад
I have 5 of them. 1 failed after 2 years. Started clicking. $$$$ to recover. The outer foil is laser welded. You can't just take it apart by removing screws.
@rawa9891
@rawa9891 9 месяцев назад
Be careful about warranty... those may be "in warranty," but if you go up against the seller because of drive failure, then you basically have to prove negligence on part of the seller and defective hardware. Unless they explicitly state warranty with TERMS listed in plain words in their "seller terms" THEN maybe you have a chance to get the drive replaced. After two years the only proof you have is in your complete documentation of the purchase.
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
how is it
@tigerbalm666
@tigerbalm666 3 месяца назад
@@javajav3004Been working great, but it makes some noises which been told is normal. No issues so far.
@javajav3004
@javajav3004 3 месяца назад
@@tigerbalm666sounds good ty
@DrPosion
@DrPosion Год назад
Any update on these? How are they holding up?
@Eman2000
@Eman2000 Год назад
No issues so far
@DrPosion
@DrPosion Год назад
@@Eman2000 awesome, thank you
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 5 месяцев назад
You can be happy with a reallocated sector or two. So long as they don’t keep increasing in number
@zeroturn7091
@zeroturn7091 2 месяца назад
I’ve bought used Deskstars and Ultrastars, and they are really loud. They also run warm too. Edit: $20 down the drain, the Deskstar is throwing spin up errors. Do not buy from EMSA.
@UTFapollomarine7409
@UTFapollomarine7409 Год назад
i never had a HDD fail on me yet, i still have one 1tb hdd running after well over 10 years now
@Geo64x
@Geo64x 3 месяца назад
I bought a 4TB seagate SMR drive and it failed within 2 years
@Geo64x
@Geo64x 3 месяца назад
but my 1TB CMR WD Blue has lasted me over 10 years and still going strong!
@DrPosion
@DrPosion Год назад
Seems like these would be fantastic for a home media/nas/plex server in unraid
@MeowO_O
@MeowO_O 7 месяцев назад
I just bought two brand new, still sealed HGST enterprise drives at very very cheap prices. Other buyers confirmed that seller's items to be new and have zero hours in s.m.a.r.t. Hopefully they last long for me. 😍😍
@kanayanfantv
@kanayanfantv 3 месяца назад
No, they just cleared the SMART data, which shouldn't be possible. :/
@ZeroBlackfire
@ZeroBlackfire Год назад
Im wondering if peeps are dumping these drives after mining CHIA.
@UTFapollomarine7409
@UTFapollomarine7409 Год назад
the ones i bought are from 2017 seems to be decent drives
@vivianvaldi7871
@vivianvaldi7871 Год назад
2014, 78.000 hours 4 TB still running. Ventilated & standby mode when not used. My last HGST is a 10 TB HUH721010ALE600 from 2018. These are like 10$ / TB (but half the noise of 2 x 4 TB) U can also find some WD Purple 10 TB for this kind of price... Some say : opened, never used... OK at ur own risk bc storage conditions are critical : not as sealed & no Helium inside these.
@someuser4166
@someuser4166 Месяц назад
I don't trust used storage mediums. The previous owner could have gotten viruses. Sometimes they reside / persist in the firmware.
@ivanchang9208
@ivanchang9208 Год назад
I think is a good option for the common poorly people (joke) who cant affort the big new one hdds BUT if you are going to use in a minimal way of RAID in a NAS device RAID 1 ,RAID 10 or RAID 5 it depends of the case/hardware that you have or to plan to use these thisk to get this kind of solutions using these disk for saving/storage files with a minimun of safety without loose your kidney to affort the price of one single big "in storage" disk
@FennecTECH
@FennecTECH 5 месяцев назад
If you’re doing this you need to have functional raid 5.
@MrGenyaAvacado
@MrGenyaAvacado 23 дня назад
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@raul0ca
@raul0ca 2 месяца назад
Bought 6 6TB drives, 1 died. Bought 6 10TB drives 2 died.
@PowerRedBullTypology
@PowerRedBullTypology 2 месяца назад
Do they keep running (aka 24/7) or do you often turn them of/on?
@raul0ca
@raul0ca 2 месяца назад
@@PowerRedBullTypology They were running in a nas that stayed on
@milospavic
@milospavic 8 месяцев назад
Where do you order cheap refurbished discs?
@hagunara1738
@hagunara1738 2 месяца назад
Amazon, ebay
@nilsfrahm1323
@nilsfrahm1323 Год назад
Try to avoid using same model drives in raid/nas as they may have same problems and fail both at same time. A firmware or integrity check issue can corrupt on both drives at the same time. If you have a different model, there is a chance it will not be affected. Maybe even avoid using same tech, like helium.
@MohammedAllali__
@MohammedAllali__ 4 месяца назад
my Hitachi xbox hdd outlived all of my ssds
@josepaz7059
@josepaz7059 Год назад
I wonder if he ever checked how many miles were on the 6 TB drives? If an eBay seller will not tell me I don't purchase
@fallenkeith5885
@fallenkeith5885 Год назад
You can usually ask and they will usually respond. I've gotten a couple with ~10 power on hours and i've also gotten some with 50k+ power on hours. It seems like the power hours are way higher when I bought from companies rather than individuals on ebay
@butmunchass
@butmunchass 8 месяцев назад
some people reset the power on hours and sell it as new when its years old@@fallenkeith5885
@tigerbalm666
@tigerbalm666 Год назад
Seagate drives always die!
@syberpunk
@syberpunk Год назад
I’ve had WD crap out on me too but I agree, Seagate has always been the least reliable in my experience
@LanHikari90
@LanHikari90 10 месяцев назад
@@syberpunk Same. I used computers since I was 12 and I'm now 32. Most HDDs that actually failed in my life time were WDs. Not only did this happe to me, also to one of my friends. This made WD the "unreliable" brand in our IT friend circle and we only bought other brands like Seagate. After some time, I decided it'd be time for new HDDs and got WD Blue ones, because they were relatively cheap. Two of them failed within a couple years. Got another one used, failed, too. Not shitting on WD, will probably buy from them in the future. I just think it's random.
@Rampart.X
@Rampart.X 3 месяца назад
I've owned many Seagates for 10+ years. Never had one fail me yet.
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