I got this MG740 Plus and its bloody fantastic - Great content Andy! By the way the Tyres are awesome, so plush and solid, im topping 700 miles and still no punctures as they only run at 20 PSI. The are not a gimmick. This bike is TOP for the dough, its also in eBay for about £1400. Whats more, Cops leave you alone
I’ve just had the 740plus delivered and i can say it’s the dogs bollocks. I’m a 19 stone man in my 50s and most ebikes unless they are fitted with duel motors won’t be getting you up most hills. But having duel motors is a game changer. Love this bike and the price is good for what you are getting. £1600 delivered to your door. Best ebike I’ve owned, 100% satisfaction.
It’s gonna be way more torquer, but the top speed will be roughly the same (it’ll just take longer to get to the top speed)..and battery drain is quicker.
I love my Philodo AWD. I had it for months before I realized AWD only works with the throttle, cruise, and walk function. It does not engage in pas alone. But it is not really needed then, as I can get almost 35 mph with just the one motor and the battery lasts longer. I am racking up the miles, this old man loves his ebike that makes me feel 16 again😀 I also know that if my rear motor burns out on the trail, I should be able to get home on the front. I love this bike.
awesome stuff... been trying to get my ebike channel running but sadly COVID and a few health issues slowed it down the last couple years but channels like you are keeping the fire burning in me...
I think if you compared that with 2 x 1000 watt vs a bike with a single 2000 watt it would be a fairer test and I think the single motor would actually win due to less weight. What would be interesting through would to see it's offroad credentials.
I don't think it's that simple just weight isn't the only factor. I think spreading the initial load might even make this bike a bit quicker if the line than a 2000w it felt quicker
The top speed of 2 1000wat motors is the same as 1 1000 watt motor but with two motors the torque multiplies so it reaches the top speed faster so a single 2000 watt motor is faster.
Thanks for your great reviews. I was new to the ebike thing and you helped a lot with all your videos. I liked this review so much I bought this exact bike and then threw another 800 Euro in upgrades onto it.. Deore gears, 10 speed 11-36 screw on hub, a 53 tooth front ring, 203mm brakes, downhill forks, juggernaut pro tyres a few carbon bits... got about 3 to 4kg off the weight. loving it!! Its a beast of a thing.. now I just need to save up for a second battery, perhaps a 52V (if it will work with this bike? Do you know? any ideas?) Thanks again for taking the time to explain everything so well. You are an inspiration!! Keep up the good work.
52v doesnt work here my guy. the controller n battery is rated at 48. u will probably have thermal issues. but at 48v its still great. the torque is enouph, 52v would give u 3-4 extra mph, i dont thing it really needs them ;)
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My 1000 watt mid bafang i built on a specialized frame eats my 17.5 amh battery if on highest setting or throttle lucky if get 15 miles out of it when do lol
Haha, love the fun factor! Great content and good old down to earth reviews. So that’s the 2x 1000 watt motor fat bike covered……..what if a Kobebike 2000w motor was on the rear 🥳
I have a ~5kW dual motor bike I built myself. it's an absolute hoot to ride. Climbs stairs like they're not even there, hills are but a minor inconvenience, and with phase weakening enabled it is absolutely stupid downhill!! I've had it past 60 once with a slight tailwind. It gets to about 57 without*... And It's probably the single sketchiest things I've done so far bar none!! The only thing it really doesn't do all that well with is snow and ice. FWD does a far better job at keeping you upright, RWD is fun for keeping the tail sideways, and AWD is absolutely marvellous for keeping the entire thing sideways... at a 90* angle. * Should note that that speed was not performed on-road. It was performed on disused road space where no traffic comes through because fuck trying that shit on a main road near me!!
@@jamescorrigan2777 a pair of those voilamart 1500w DD hub motors They can take a fair amount more power than they're rated for as long as you're not running silly amounts of current, so far I'm doing 2.5kW per wheel and they don't even really build up any noticeable heat when being run... even after a steep.hill they remain only slightly warm to the touch!!
Single motor test is still hauling the weight of both motors though. It would perform a lot better as single motor without the weight of the unused motor.
For the poor buggers who found their MG 740 plus came restricted: press and hold the + & - buttons. The P menu will show on the screen. Then use the + /- button to scroll up/down to P03. Once there press the "i" button and a number below will flash. Use the +/- buttons to take it up to Maximum number (u will also use the P menu to switch between KMh /Mph). Once you have it at the highest number. Press the "i" button and then press and hold the "i" button. Congratulations- this bike will now go 49KMh/30Mph. Better to use both motors on flats and commutes for better power/weight ratio and will ensure 1 motor isn't doing all the work meaning less stress on 1 motor over time. You will also get to speeds a lot quicker. This feature is also really good as an anti-theft tool. After each use, I drop the P03 to 1 before I turn the bike off. If someone manages to break the lock- they won't be going anywhere quick at 1 kmh/1mph.. the P menu also allows you to turn on password mode, meaning anytime the bike is switched on, a 4 digit pin code will be required (and you can set and change this code as many times as you like). The bike is a heavy beast but she takes the roads very well. I've gone from punctures and new tyres every other week to no punctures for a year. The tyres have also stood yo very well in 12 months. I only had to change 1 tube but that was my fault because I wasn't looking when I fed the chain through the spokes when locking up and I pulled on and tore the valve. Even changing the tube was really simple (the joys of RU-vid tutorials). It's a really good design, the front and back controllers are housed inside the frame and that can be accessed (if necessary) by unscrewing the battery baseplate on the frame and underneath the baseplate you will find 2 compact controllers with easy connectors. The wires lead out on both ends and are nice tucked with zip ties. Some people don't like look and prefer everything tucked away- but this is better, it's accessible and adjustable without needing to remove the battery base plate every time and it is actually a good look on this bike. I switched out the pedals straight away but that was due to personal preference and I still have the originals as they are very good quality spares. For the speed freaks- don't be disappointed that you can't go 100KMh/ 63 Mph. There is really no need. It's still a bike and as good as the brakes are to stop a 48kg twin motor 2000w ebike going 49KMh/30Mph- I.wouldn't trust them as much with higher speeds. The battery life is what it is- depending on how you're riding. I suggest charging the battery after each use so it's always on full and your charge time is smaller (who wants to wait 5-6 hours?) Safety first, never leave an e-bike / e scooter battery on charge and unattended and never use different chargers. I bought this bike from great seller on e-bay and they had manufactured a precise panier rack for this large framed bike with 26×4 inch wheels. You need the panniers to transport heavy duty locks and some tools. The bike can really carry a lot of weight. I weigh around 100kg, the bike with the battery is around 50kg, I've added the pannier rack and bags and I often carry 20-30kg in additional weight and the bike handles it very well. The downside is the size- u need to have somewhere spacious and safe to store it. You can just free cycle it but I really don't recommend it due to the weight. When out and about- it's a real head Turner. I'm very picky about where I leave it locked up and I'm always looking at better locks etc to better deter. The size and weight takes a little getting use to, particularly if you are someone quite small. If you think you won't be able to manoeuvre a 50kg bike around or you don't have the safe place to store it when you are home, don't buy it- but as for the rest of you- you won't regret it. 👍
I run one of those motors at 2200w, its fine 90% of the time, but long really steep hills will cook the phase wires. Twin motors should solve that, but ultimately midrive for the stupid steep stuff
I've always been curious as to whether or not it would be worth it to add a front hub motor to a BBSHD bike. What kind of bike is it and what type of riding do you do? Do you have front suspension too? Would be cool to use the front motor when the back tire is losing traction but just wondering if the weight penalty would be worth it for strictly offroad singletrack use.
I remember going to a bike show in Lemington spa in the noughties, 2004 or something i think. There was a cristini 2wd pedal bike with a fairly complicated system to transfer power to the front with a prop shaft that ran uo the top tube and eventually to the front wheel. Even if i had the spare 3 grand i think it was priced at i wouldn't have gone for it but i must say i feel slightly left out by the range i could do on an ev but i still love my 2013 canyon nerve xc. Serving me well.
Fantastic chanel Some great builds I am going to upgrade my 1000 watt single motor rear wheel for a double motor set up it will add so much more torque at a relatively cheap price.
i mean dual motors are better but its not a fair test using the same bike, the 1000w is shared between the two motors as opposed to one and in 1 wheel mode is has the extra weight and friction of the dead wheel
Now imagine having a big quadcycle with four 5000w motors as generators and a good dedal drive motor that pulls all 4 weels at the same time, maybe a small battery pack to keep everything powered at all times and to help a little on take offs
So iam undecided between this mg740 and the rv700. I seen your reviews on both, great reviews. Which bike do you think is better between the 2? Iam a bigger guy, 6ft and 250lb.
Hi I'm about the same stature as you the dual motor is a tempting prospect but ive a feeling the rv 700 battery would last a fare bit longer. I just ordered rv 700. I'll report back bro.😎👌
The mg 740 is a beast had mine abount 6 weeks pulls like a train done abount 500 miles so far on it i was thinking it would go faster than the 30mph though i get out of it but a fun ride with loads of torque
Just use a front and rear hub motor and a mid drive. While you are at it you could add a friction drive on the front and rear and add one of those old school brushed motors with a chain on the left. Will be faster then Usain Bolt at the quarter mile.
great test. If you build one can you test pulling a trailer up a hill? This is raely seen but would be required for people to haul shopping or children
Unless the bike is lifted off the floor or going down hill the bike is always under load. On a flat road I find 2 motors get higher speed closer to an unloaded motor.
been planning on building a dual 1500 watt bike for lugging fishing kit up steep inclines .after owning a kugoo g booster and realising the potential but it will have 2 batterys like the kugoo but 52 v
That’s what I built & its powered by 2 52V 20 amp batteries. I have bad knees and it’s hard for me to pedal but now no matter how steep the hill I can power up it and the range is phenomenal!
Hi iv been watching your channel little while now and it's great Your to the point and no messing that's better than people who waffle on 😂 Any the video on two motors front and rear wheel great to be honest I had thoroughly of the two motor e bike but a carnt afford one Any way what about a 3rd motor ebike with motor where the peddles go through ...not sure what it's called Any keep up the fantastic videos ....
You aren't really competition these days if your e-bike can't go up a hill and doesn't have dual motors. Don't even bother looking at single hub motor e-bikes guys. Also dual suspension is a must.
I like the BS they say in the splurge on their website…..battery completely hidden!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤦🏻♂️ can’t understand why they didn’t put 21700 batts in instead of 18650’s? Woulda seemed better especially hauling 2 1000 watt motors 🤷♂️ Front dropouts don’t seem adequate especially the amount of grunt the bike is gonna produce?? Thanks for sharing this on the channel Steve 👍 police compound will be full of these!🤣🤣🤣🤣💪
E-bikes are brilliant until they go wrong. I am seeing plenty of these relatively unknown brand bikes lately and most are being purchased online. The problem with online is if they develop a fault who is going to fix it ? Most bike shops won't touch them with a barge pole especially if it's an electrical fault and although mechanical minded tech savvy people do buy them many are not. What are your thoughts on this ?
A better question is what happens to all the old ebike batteries they can't be thrown in the garbage because of fires so what do they do with them. Theirs bound to be lots of very volatile batteries that will need special care to dispose of.
@@MotoAlias Had one fella in my shop and I was his last port of call. He'd left his bike locked at train station while attending a meeting and when he came back some nasty person had cut all his cables. Poor fella went to every bike shop in local area and none would fix it, wouldn't even repair brake or gear cables just so he could ride it. I fixed it and I have never seen a customer so happy in my life, he was almost in tears....
Yeah, I see this as a massive problem. hundreds of unknown brands probably all coming from the same factory in China, All of them scrambling to get your £2000 and once it fails you are shafted. They all look great when someone reviews them on RU-vid for a week but what happens after a year? dubious batteries, cheap alloy frame, questionable motor quality, replacement brakes and tyres? Many corners cut for asking price of a cheap second hand car. Having said that I wouldn't get Super73 either due to their price tag and inability to climb hills. Seems like there is still a lot of evolving to be done in this space. I've also started hearing a lot of horror stories with ENGWE e-bikes now that they have been out for a while and they present themselves as a slightly more up market brand from China.
@@Reprogrammed_By_SEGA Corners definitely cut. Some of the bikes coming in for what should be simple jobs like changing a tire or fixing a puncture are a nightmare because there's no split in the cables and zero slack. You literally can't remove the back wheel unless you cut the cable and even if you can manage to get the wheel out it's still tied very close to the bike. As a bike shop owner and manager with over 30 years experience I would never advise anyone to buy a cheap ebike over the internet unless you have the capability of fixing and maintaining it yourself, that includes the electronics.
Many of the dual 1kw motor bikes come from the same root factory (Zeeger, Philodo, etc). If one sources does not have the part you need, explore other seller's parts to get them back on the road. Getting parts is not as impossible as you imagine.
You need to do a bit of research CYC kit will climb 1 in 4 easily. So unless you live on a Ben Nevis wannabe or are a lazy fuq and won't assist with pedals....u will be fine with a high torque set up. Forget the pish here....about 80nm of torque would be my guess
@Dean Oh that to my question no i pedal most places got a mid 1000 watt bafang at mo i just built but looking for bigger tyred bike for more off road etc as mine mainly for roads/cycle paths mate
Great review which i had tge funds for a bike like that Im not sure what e bike to Get i want to commute 16-20 miles a day 8-10 miles each way. But on a budget What would you recommend?? Im 95kg 6,3 Not sure that matters
Yes, it’s fast. Until it breaks down in 95km, without ever pushing it! Good morning, Very unhappy with my CmaceWheel RX20, bought 7/2022. After 6 months the Keyframe holder on the bike broke, so o had to replace the whole Key setup in the Battery. Not easy. Now the Front Motor is not working for 4 months, but I was busy and did not report it, so it’s OUT Of WARRANTY, as 13 months and 95 km (yeah, that’s all). The Factory support was incomplete, sarcastic and frankly shows NO knowledge of the bike (until I started yelling). What I can notice is RE-BRANDING to DUOTTS, VAKOLE C020, which indicates to me that the original brand is failing! They should have fixed the problems first! After additional testing and hours of work by myself, 1. Clearly the Controller is defective, so I am asking for an immediate replacement. 2. The Motor is also probably defective, but I am willing to wait for the Controller replacement. What worries me about it, is the cost and the danger that the NEW controller will be blown by the defective Motor. Any ideas?
Does that use a single controller ? I'm not sure but these might be 750 watt motors with peak wattage at 1,000 or so. You need to find out nominal and peak wattage.. Then what the size is of the controllers. I have a true 1,000 watt motor with 1,800 watts of peak. The controller on my bike is 33 amp . many 1,000 watt motors have 35 amp controllers. 22-28 amp would be a 750 watt nominal and peak of about 1,000. Also a 1,000 watt nominal motor will have a minimum of 90 Nm of torque. Not 70-80 Nm
Nice video. Still why not wear a helmet for your safety? What could be the reason not to do that? If you fall, you're probably dead if your head hits to the ground. I do not understand this at all.
loving all the recent content mate. if i have a £1500 budget for a gravel ebike/pedelec what do you think is the best route to go down for value and reliability.
That slope wasn't very harsh a 200wat back wheel 45amp controller battery 52v19.5amp from start on throttle will scream up. I seen one video this guy had 500wat motor back and front the best is two controller joined forgot the battery he was using the speed was unbelievable and that's two controller
Do you know when, or even if, this model is going to be available for purchase, because I can’t find it anywhere on their site only the RV700 model, with the single 1000W motor from your previous video.
