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@@robertabrao7785 you know I see what your problem is man. Since you don't have the Holy Spirit inside of you you can see but you are blind. The bible does say that Jesus is God so is the Holy Spirit but you are like a child in the sense that if it doesn't say it in the words YOU WANT then it isn't true lol "Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began." John 17:5 NLT Here Jesus makes it VERY CLEAR that he has always existed with Father Yahweh and they shared their glory before Jesus came to earth. Now Jesus did say that the Father is greater than he is and I think most of us Christians all know this lol he is greater than him in authority but not in Divinity. “If you love me, obey my commandments. And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you. He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. John 14:15‭-‬17 NLT Again making it very clear that the Holy Spirit is God but you want to nit pick because it doesn't say the words YOU WANT. Angels don't sit here and posses people nor live inside of people hence it's common sense that the Holy Spirit is also God. All of this is in the original Hebrew text. Do your research and stop allowing Satan to blind your mind.

@@robertabrao7785 the Bible is very clear on the Trinity. If you truely studied the word of God like you claim you do you would clearly see this. No matter how you wanna translate it it sais the same thing man. You are moving on your own understanding. The road to destruction is wide but the road to salvation is narrow.

@@robertabrao7785 BTW what religion are you?

@@robertabrao7785 God is Triune. God in persons..Blessed Trinity

@@feastwchopsticks2816 yea dude wants to argue just ignore him

@@archangeljesus4369 Ok. Read John 1 chapter too.

@@archangeljesus4369 false Jesus is God you must rightly divide the Bible...

@@archangeljesus4369 i dont want to talk about your false doctrine. But %100 sure this chapter talks about Jesus Christ is God. I dont know which you read bible, mormons or jehowah witnesses.. it doesnt matter for me. God never change his Words. He have power to protect his words

@@archangeljesus4369 no one is claiming Jesus is greater than the father? He’s on the same Godly essence. Read John 1: 1-2 then read John 1: 5:20.. then read proverbs 30:4 , I pray the Holy Spirit guides you.

@@archangeljesus4369 The reason John 1 is talking about Jesus is because John 1:14 identifies Jesus as the Word, and John 1:1-4 says that the Word was in the beginning (by implication, of time), was with God, was God, was used to make everything in existence, and has life in himself, that life being the light of men. This can't describe someone who is not God.

Jesus was not created, he is the eternal Son of God, the second Person of the Divine Trinity. God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit. One God, three Persons.

@Frank-ky8bk I encourage you to go read the Bible!! God gives humans many opportunities to stop doing evil and we still do it. We didn’t break God’s heart nor does God need us. He loves us and is patient with us, He even gives us chances to turn from evil and come to Him. We have a loving God who sent His son to died for us. This world is living without God and it’s not a pretty picture! Go read the Bible, and know you are loved!, have a blessed day🤍🤍

: What utter nonsense ! Many groups such as biblical unitarians do not believe that Jesus is God. Why don't you read very early Church history where you will find many Christians never defended a doctrine that had not yet been invented.

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth."

@@consolelivesmatter Is that really all the evidence YOU need to convince you that the Bible "teaches" that God is THREE PEOPLE? Is that all the evidence you have?

True! Those who cling onto the Trinity in fact try and show that all worshipers of the ONLY TRUE GOD (John 17:3) were blind worshipers. Jesus included. And the Apostasy helped people to know who God is. Which wouldn't make any sense. Jesus knew who and what he worshiped. He told the Samaritan woman. (John 4:22) You worship what you do not know; WE WORSHIP WHAT WE KNOW, because salvation begins with the Jews. The WE included Jesus.

Matthew 28:19 Goe ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

@@SeanAPalmer : If we read the Acts of the Apostles we will not find a single instance of baptisms being done using the Father. Son and holy spirit formula. All done in the name of Jesus. We're the Apostles and others disobeying Jesus' command? Just using three of something in a context doesn't mean any Trinity. Peter, James and John were present at Jesus' transfiguration. 3 persons. Does this prove a Trinity?

Yes they taught me when I was a kid that Jesus loves all the little children( the red and yellow...black and white...they all are precious in his sight. Then I found out years later that it was a Big Lie. (Romans 3:7)

Jesus God the father and the holyspirit are God but however thetitle in the plan of redemption the two are now removedd theirselves from the Title God so as to bring Man bck to God The son of God the Spirit of God they are to bring back Man to God yet they themselves are God

You can pray to Jesus. He is God, but there is no trinity.

@@robertabrao7785 there is but one LORD,JESUS IS LORD,AND WHAT SPIRIT DID HE SEND US THEN,? STOP TRASHING JESUS,,,,,,,,so many in the world do and try to hurt faith,,,,JESUS IS THE SAVIOR AND THE MANIFESTED WORD,JESUS PRAYED TO THE FATHER,,,YOU WONT WAVER MY FAITH,you satanist surf to corrupt faith and you use the word and slyly twist,,,,to lower JESUS,,,,,,,he is exalted above ALL THINGS NOW, HE INHEREITED IT ALL,,,he made himself a lil lower to serve us and save us who believe,,,but he is exalted now,and sits on the throne on the right hand of God the father,,,,how did you get the lower JESUS post out of what I said above??????? satanist? JESUS BOTHER YOU? HE IS THE SAVIOR,,,,WHO IS OUR SACRIFICE,,,,,AND WHAT I POSTED IS TRUTH,,,and your trashing of JESUS WONT CHANGE A THING,nothing i posted deserved your trashing post, so you are a satanist,,,,who hates JESUS,,and many of you are amuck,,, and you do not believe in the HOLY SPIRIT, I AM SURE YOU DO NOT,,,,AS YOU DO NOT HAVE HIM,,

@Mike Williams yes he is

In Genesis (6:4) God has many sons.

@@tariqspaulding8034Yes. But only One begotten by a virgin.

John 1:1-3 tells us, "GOD" is a family name. That Father in Heaven, is the Father of. Next, we are told Father has a Manager by title of........ "THE WORD". They both are under the Umbrella family name of......... "GOD". Thus, Father and Jesus are both God for that is their last name aka Family name which means Authority. Next, Father predates everything in existence and his Manager, predates everything after him. Next, we are told his Manager's name is Jesus.

It literally says "Mighty God" . For unto us a Child is born and he shall be called Mighty GOD.

What many fail to understand is that Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy. 'Will be called' is futuristic in tense. That would mean that Jesus wasn't any of those titles before they are fulfilled. He became a wonderful counselor. Read the Sermon on the mount at Matthew chapters 5, 6 and 7.

@@HeirByFaith : Here is something to help. Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah. That is my name; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images. (Lord is not a name. It is an interpolation by the translators). John 17:22  I have given them the glory that you have given me, in order that they may be one just as we are one. 23 I in union with them and you in union with me, in order that they may be perfected into one, Note that God doesn't share his glory with anyone. Jesus however, shared his God given glory with his disciples. The theory of Jesus being God in the flesh isn't scriptural nor scientific. This is what God told Moses through an angel: Exodus 33:20 But (God) added: “You cannot see my face, for no man can see me and live.”

@@HeirByFaith Yes, he DOES! He came up with the false doctrine Known as....trinity.

@@bible1st Jesus was Given the, "HONOR," of being called, "Father," and, "Mighty God," because the, "Anointing of the Spirit of GOD," was "UPON him." PSALM 8:5/ HEB.2:7-9. ACTS 10:38--42. ISA.61:1/ LUKE 4:18. PLUS; GOD Himself was not, "BORN!" AND; HE was NEVER a, "CHILD!" So, OBVIOUSLY, ISA,9:6, requires a bit more Inspection, before we Jump to Conclusions, my friends!

Verses we can clearly tell that Jesus is not God nor son of God, but only a servant and prophet of God ✨ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4 My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME ' - 1 John 4:12 God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23: 19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. (John 5:30) Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17 " Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.” (Matthew 26:39) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27: 46 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say (John 12: 49-50) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17 :3) the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12-13) he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28: 18) Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Mark 10:18 I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 2 Chronicles 6: 18 I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority. The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood. (John 7:16-18) Also there are others and prophets called son of God in the Bible and yet Christians don't acknowledge them to be son of God. So do not think Jesus is son of God just because is say so in the Bible. The Bible has many contradictions and mistakes in the Bible do not put your salvation on it. Jesus never said he was the son of God ✨ Here are the verses that call many others son of God Moses is instructed to say to Pharaoh "Thus saithe the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn. (Exodus 4: 22) He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him. Chronicles 28: 6 Kenan was the son of Enoch. Enoch was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God. Luke 3: 38 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. 2 Samuel 7: 13 Jesus never said he was God period. He is a slave of God just like us. Also did know other people are referred as Gods in the bible? even if you did find a verses that say Jesus is God in the bible its not at all solid proof the bible has been altered over the many century's Jesus spoke Aramaic the bible is not even in Aramaic if you think that is not a problem than I don't know what to say. Verses below Jesus calling himself a prophet of God ✨ And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Matthew 13:57 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day-for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! Luke 13:33 Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country John 4:44. By all these verses we can easily tell that Jesus is not God nor the son of God but a servant and prophet of God It is indeed very clear.,

Jesus is not a prophet. He is the son of YHWH. Prophets committed sin. He did not. He was perfect in all ways. Jesus rose from the dead and was seen from over 500 people after resurrection. Prophets DID NOT rise from the dead.

@@galexeywolf Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4

@@islampeace... so how does this disprove the fact that Jesus did not commit sin and was resurrected? It does not.

@@galexeywolf First of all Jesus never died cuz God saved his life when he was going to get killed as you may know. God will return him back to this world and than he will die later on and be resurrected like all other humans will. Also what is this about not committing sins? It does not make you holy or God if you don't commit sins you know. God has billions of slaves who do not commit sins and they are the angels and God also created many others who do not commit sins like the people humans God made it heaven. worship God alone and God has no helpers or partners he is one and only one so do not say he is 3 in 1 that is 100% made up invented.

Verses we can clearly tell that Jesus is not God nor son of God, but only a servant and prophet of God ✨ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4 My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME ' - 1 John 4:12 God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23: 19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. (John 5:30) Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17 " Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.” (Matthew 26:39) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27: 46 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say (John 12: 49-50) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17 :3) the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12-13) he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28: 18) Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. John 16:12 I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 2 Chronicles 6: 18 I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority. The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood. (John 7:16-18) Also there are others and prophets called son of God in the Bible and yet Christians don't acknowledge them to be son of God. So do not think Jesus is son of God just because is say so in the Bible. The Bible has many contradictions and mistakes in the Bible do not put your salvation on it. Jesus never said he was the son of God ✨ Here are the verses that call many others son of God Moses is instructed to say to Pharaoh "Thus saithe the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn. (Exodus 4: 22) He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him. Chronicles 28: 6 Kenan was the son of Enoch. Enoch was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God. Luke 3: 38 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. 2 Samuel 7: 13 Jesus never said he was God period. He is a slave of God just like us. Also did know other people are referred as Gods in the bible? even if you did find a verses that say Jesus is God in the bible its not at all solid proof the bible has been altered over the many century's Jesus spoke Aramaic the bible is not even in Aramaic if you think that is not a problem than I don't know what to say. Verses below Jesus calling himself a prophet of God ✨ And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Matthew 13:57 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day-for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! Luke 13:33 Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country John 4:44. By all these verses we can easily tell that Jesus is not God nor the son of God but a servant and prophet of God It is indeed very clear..

You're wrong on all counts.

MONICA DHALIWAL, AMEN, AMEN, AND AMEN.... GOD BLESS MONICA......

@@islampeace... There are MANY Scriiptures that you conveniently left OUT, my friend! Scripture says, Jesus was, "Given the All Power and Authority." MATT.28:18. ACTS 10:38-42, Says he was "Given the HOLY SPIRIT." ISA.61:1, Is a Prophecy of LUKE 4:18. Jesus told the Jewish leaders, "The SPIRIT of the LORD is UPON me." Jesus was Given POWER to "Cast out demons, and, Forgive sins." WHY do you think he willingly went to the Cross? To SAVE our Sorry Souls....That's Why! Jesus is not GOD, on that, we can agree----However, he's MORE than Just a PROPHET, or, Servant. The very Name, "JESUS," means...,"SAVIOR." His HEBRAIC name, "YESHUA," means,...The One who Saves. With respect.

If Jesus was God, then Jesus is NOT the promised Jewish messiah, but a PAGAN GOD figure. The Jewish messiah is a person who fears God (Isaiah 11:2-3), and there is NO passage that exists in the entire Jewish Scripture that mentions the messiah is 100"% God and man at the same time. The Jewish messiah is a person who is prone to commit sin (2 Samuel 7:14 RSV), he is NOT a perfect sinless person.

: How did this help? Did it show you a single scripture that says God exists as one essence but three persons. Jesus had a God. He prayed to God. The resurrected Jessus had a God. (John 20 :17). The glorified Jesus in heaven itself still had a God. (Rev3 :12). A 'God' who has a God is not the ultimate God and certainly not equal to his God. The claim of the gospels was that : Jesus is the messiah (Christ), the Son of God.(NOT God)

There are any number of liars out there and Judaism exploits the confusion they cause in relation to this issue. @@VoiceofTruth-iv8pq

The trinity is Greek Mythology with Apostle Paul is main caretaker. The Bible is a very dangerous book.

A clear and simple to comprehend TRUTH conveniently ignore by all these videos trying to make Jesus into God. 'No man has SEEN God AT ANY TIME.' - 1 John 4:12. Jesus was SEEN.

@@tariqspaulding8034 : With respect, I think you are mistaken. There are many examoples of pagan 'trinities' from ancient Egyopt or Babylon before the Greeks. So it is not a Greek invention. Perhaps you mean that post -Apostoilic Church Fathers, educated in Greek philkosophy such as platonism, borroed the language and ideas of platonism to develop the idea that The Father and the Son were of ther same 'substance' and later to fully develop the idea of the Trinity by the end of the fourth century. You are way off the mark with Paul. The Apostle Paul was a monotheistic Jew who converted to the Jesus movement after a claimed encouter with the resurrected Jesus. In all his writings. Paul differentiates between God(the LORD God, The Father, YHWH) and the Lord Jesus, the messiah(Christ). Paul sees them as two separate beings (not persons) with one being the God and father of ther other. ("cor 1 :3' Eph 1 :3). To illustrate this, simply read the greetings in all of Paul's letters. where he sends greetings from two and never three. Paul knew nothing of a Trinity. This idea did not emerge until after the time of the Apoatles of Jesus. Many Books can be dangerous if misunderstood or abused. But I suppose you are right in some ways. The BIble is viewed as dangerous to some. It claims there is a creator and so this is dangerous for atheists. It claims that Jesus is the Messiah (Christ) the Son of God. It claims that there is only one true God(ultimate God) and this is dangerous for polytheists. And much more.

May I respectfully ask if God can disappear to please an atheist? Can God change into a form that can die, thereby giving up his immortal status? There are some things God cannot do. (Malachi 3:6) “For I am Jehovah; I do not change. (Habakkuk 1:12) Are you not from everlasting, O Jehovah? O my God, my Holy One, you do not die. God coming down in a form of a human and getting killed would contradict God's Word. Wouldn't it? BTW the promised one was never named Emmanuel. He was named Jesus. Emmanuel was a prophetic term to show that God would work out his purpose through Jesus. Not become Jesus. Hope this helps.

@@tongakhan230 All three are apart of Jesus Christ, He is One Person not Three.. scripture is clear that Jesus and the Father are One. He whom has seen me has seen the Father, Jesus Christ is the Alpha, the Firstborn of All Creation and All Things were created by Him and through Him. He is the Logos, the Godhead in which He posseses the full bodily form of God, the Creator, He is at the right Hand of God the Father showcasing His authority. The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are all apart of Jesus Christ, God the Creator. The Father being the Soul, the Son being the incarnation, and the Spirit being His Holy Spirit. The Trinity claims that Jesus and the father are not the same but we know in scripture that Jesus and the Father are One in the same! Jesus's life is the perfect blueprint for how he wants us to walk, God the Father came down as God the Son to show us the way! The incarnation and the father son and holy spirit is indeed mysterious, but Jesus made it clear He's the Creator!

@@TheDivineCallingofJesusChrist : May I ask where does the Bible say that Jesus created anything? Jesus was used by God in the creation. (Proverbs 8:30) Then I was beside him (ie God) AS A MASTER WORKER. I was the one he was especially fond of day by day; I rejoiced before him all the time; That is why the scriptures at Colossians 1:16 and Hebrews 1:2 says that all things were created THROUGH Jesus. Not BY Jesus. If the nuance is not discernible let me know. Here are Jesus' own words. John 5:30  I CANNOT DO A SINGLE THING OF MY OWN INITIATIVE. Just as I hear, I judge, and my judgment is righteous because I seek, not my own will, but the will of him who sent me. Rather a strange confession by someone whom one says was the Creator of this Universe! Jesus was God' FIRST Intelligent creation. That is why he is called: (Colossians 1:15) He is the image of the invisible God, the FIRSTBORN OF ALL CREATION; Firstborn logically means that God has other sons (cf Job 1:6). Hope this helps.

But why would jesus say "Father why have you forsaken me?" in ancient hebrew when he died?

First commandment God said don't bring other gods against my face

GOD is with US, also! That doesn't mean WE are GOD!

It's not Hebrew its Aramaic. Many scholars are finding this out after studying ancient Aramaic Aramaic, Christ’s last words were “Eloi Eloi lama sabachthani” (Mark 15:34), which can be translated as “You have kept me” or “You have preserved me.”

Verses we can clearly tell that Jesus is not God nor son of God, but only a servant and prophet of God ✨ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4 My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME ' - 1 John 4:12 God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23: 19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. (John 5:30) Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17 " Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.” (Matthew 26:39) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27: 46 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say (John 12: 49-50) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17 :3) the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12-13) he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28: 18) Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Mark 10:18 I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 2 Chronicles 6: 18 I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority. The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood. (John 7:16-18) Also there are others and prophets called son of God in the Bible and yet Christians don't acknowledge them to be son of God. So do not think Jesus is son of God just because is say so in the Bible. The Bible has many contradictions and mistakes in the Bible do not put your salvation on it. Jesus never said he was the son of God ✨ Here are the verses that call many others son of God Moses is instructed to say to Pharaoh "Thus saithe the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn. (Exodus 4: 22) He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him. Chronicles 28: 6 Kenan was the son of Enoch. Enoch was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God. Luke 3: 38 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. 2 Samuel 7: 13 Jesus never said he was God period. He is a slave of God just like us. Also did know other people are referred as Gods in the bible? even if you did find a verses that say Jesus is God in the bible its not at all solid proof the bible has been altered over the many century's Jesus spoke Aramaic the bible is not even in Aramaic if you think that is not a problem than I don't know what to say. Verses below Jesus calling himself a prophet of God ✨ And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Matthew 13:57 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day-for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! Luke 13:33 Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country John 4:44. By all these verses we can easily tell that Jesus is not God nor the son of God but a servant and prophet of God It is indeed very clear

*DOES JESUS CHRIST CLAIM DIVINITY?* • *John17:3* Jesus Christ said the Father is the only true God who sent him. • *Matthew 11:27* Jesus Christ said all things have been committed to him by the Father. • *Matthew 20:23* Jesus Christ said only the Father able to grant a place in his kingdom. • *Matthew 24:36* Jesus Christ said only the Father knows 'the Hour'. • *Matthew 28:18* Jesus Christ said all authority are given by the Father. • *John 5:30* Jesus Christ said his judgement are according to the Father. • *John 7:16* Jesus Christ said his teaching comes from the Father. • *John 12:49* Jesus Christ said he speak according to the Father's command. • *John 14:28* Jesus Christ said the Father is greater than him. • *John 17:4* Jesus Christ said the work he does is given by the Father.

It's like saying I don't believe that water can be in a liquid, solid and gaseous state.its like you are a human being who can be good,bad or in-between.God is the father who is good (according to the bible) the son,who is the good shepherd (according to the bible) and the holy spirit,who helps us accomplish good thing (according to that same bible). I hope you are covinced that God is Jesus Christ

@@Colorbind005 In John 17:3, according to Jesus Christ who is the only true God?

@@efootballmaniaAre you Muslim?

One being, three persons. Think of God as a hard boiled egg. There's the shell of the egg, the white of the egg, and the yolk of the egg. One egg, three parts.

They are not two separate entities. They are just branches from the same tree (The Trinity). Insinuating they are separate would claim there is more than one God which would go against God’s own teachings about him being the only God in all of existence. God the Father, God the Son, and God the Spirit are distinct in their own right, but stem from one singular divine being. Jesus was a piece of this divine being that was sacrificed so the world could have their sins forgiven hence why he is sometimes referred to as “the son of God.” He is a part of God, but not as a literal offspring. The term Son is used to help us understand that Jesus was a part of God but should not be misinterpreted as Jesus being his own being let alone being his “own god.”

You are literally the 1st person, I came across seeing it the exact same way I do. 👌 👏

True! Confirmed by Jesus in his prayer to his God Jehovah (John 17:3).

And the point being made is?

No they are NOT !

Everyone should read this post. Your question is superb.

Acts 7:55 But he (ie Stephen), being full of holy spirit, gazed into heaven and caught sight of God’s glory and of Jesus STANDING at God’s right hand, Stephen would know the difference because God would be seated and Jesus would be standing at God's right side. This, however was a vision.

He saw both the Father and the Son...He prayed to our Father...He did never said that he was The Holy Father He said he was The Son of God do he is God himself. We are human because we were created as human so we can not produce God we are not Gods. We are a creation of God the Father!

@@Floina John 10:34. “Jesus answered them, ‘Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?” This is because we are His children. John 20:17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God. 1st Corinthians 14:33-40 For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.

: Typical Trinitarian, misquoting what scripture says. It actually says Jesus was standing at the right hand of God. In other words, Jesus was one other than God. This one verse destroys your post-Apostolic teaching.

Jesus is now enthroned on high. The point is that Jesus is not God the Father, but is a God, the son of the Father. Whether he was standing, sitting or doing the jitterbug, he is now returned to heaven from whence we all came. He is our eldest brother, he and we are all the children of the one God.@@JosephSmith-ph4xr

Yeshua is Jesus and Joshua. Yah is an abbreviation for Yahweh. The only True God. Better know as Jehovah.

*DOES JESUS CHRIST CLAIM DIVINITY?* • *John17:3* Jesus Christ said the Father is the only true God who sent him. • *Matthew 11:27* Jesus Christ said all things have been committed to him by the Father. • *Matthew 20:23* Jesus Christ said only the Father able to grant a place in his kingdom. • *Matthew 24:36* Jesus Christ said only the Father knows 'the Hour'. • *Matthew 28:18* Jesus Christ said all authority are given by the Father. • *John 5:30* Jesus Christ said his judgement are according to the Father. • *John 7:16* Jesus Christ said his teaching comes from the Father. • *John 12:49* Jesus Christ said he speak according to the Father's command. • *John 14:28* Jesus Christ said the Father is greater than him. • *John 17:4* Jesus Christ said the work he does is given by the Father.

@@efootballmania All your quotes are not full and the exact Muslim translation. Here is the problem with the foolish Muslim who would not even sort out the many errors of his own Quran and Hadiths first. If he did he will run. You never read my initial quotes first because yoou are accustomed not to read and if you do without understanding, because the god of this world who you worship has removed your understanding. Try this small antidote first and if this doesn't work, I will give you the mega dose. Trinity=Father/Son/Holy Spirit?? Imagine this in our dream, your body lies on the bed but your spirit goes to the spiritual realm, that's Dream for you. The physical body does not go into the dream/spirit realm. God in His body as the Father sends His Spirit to the Earth, like a dream because His Image cannot come to the earth. However His Spirit is now in the physical realm and for it to be seen became flesh Joh 1:14, Jesus. So Jesus is like God's dreaming but in our physical realm and seen. Just as when we dream, the spiritual entities also see us in spirit. However for us the body on the bed and the spirit in the dream are still One. If you ever see your spirit coming out of your body at the same time, this is the experience of death but to the witch or satanic, this could be an astral projection. Note that there is the third person of yourself which sees the two (body and spirit at the same time). The third body looking at both is your soul. So for God (the Father) in the spirit realm to come to be seen on earth, His Spirit (Holy Spirit) must take the form of a person (Son). Therefore Father = Son = Holy Spirit, are ONE. So the Son can still call up to the Father as we see in the scriptures whilst the Holy Spirit does His Divine nature unseen. Just the same that our Body, spirit and soul are One. We don't die in our dreams although the spirit leaves the body, because the soul remains in the body to sustain life (Gen 2:7 God breathed (spirit) into the (body) and it became a living (soul)). Hope this helped someone. Shalom

HalleluYAH.🙌 ...and no one can say that YHWH is YESHUA except by the SPIRIT... 1 Cor. 12:3🎯 God Yeshua bless you Bro.✝✝✝

@@robertabrao7785 dude stop

@@robertabrao7785 incorrect. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh.

whomever taught you that is wrong and most likely wrong about much more.

I don't think its three persons. it's actually one person in three forms.

@@bible1st that’s modalism and that’s a heresy

@@robertabrao7785 jesus said before Abraham iam, thats very clear that he is GOD in Genesis too.

@@robertabrao7785 you read the bible so well ❤️,but trying to disprove will led you to prove the trinity of God

@@pawhnailitho3543 You do not understand the intended Context of JOHN 8:58. STUDY the ENTIRE chapter....Better Yet, the Whole book of JOHN! Jesus is the "SON," of his FATHER ( GOD)." JOHN 20:17. READ it, my friend!

"He that has seen me has seen the Father" Did Jesus mean that he was the Father by this statement?

(John 14:9) Jesus said to him: “Even after I have been with you men for such a long time, Philip, have you not come to know me? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father also. How is it you say, ‘Show us the Father’? Does this mean that Jesus was claiming to be his own Father? I thought the Trinity doctrine states that they are two separate persons.

Seriously.

@@robertabrao7785 na , Jesus is absolutely God, Jesus said " before Abraham was , I AM" he's claiming deity , who is the holy spirit then if Jesus isn't God ? Repent ....if Jesus isnt God then he isn't divine and couldn't have died for humanity

@@Gloriagal78 serious as a heart attack lol

@@robertabrao7785 if Jesus isn't God he didn't pay for sin. Listen , what did doubting Thomas say when he saw Jesus ? What does John 1:1 say ? I'll wait while you respond with a logical and biblical response, grace and peace

@@robertabrao7785 you just want to argue nothing you believe will discredit the fact that Jesus is God , you need to repent. There are more than enough accounts that make Jesus God. Like bro this is common sense . GOD the Father ,God the Son and God the holy spirit , chew on that . Stop trying to discredit my savior. You need to get saved because no one person that's truly born again believes ajesus isn't God, that doesn't even make sense . Argue with yourself bud , I'm done 🤓👌

@jjw00dw mistranslation. Wasnt in any of the older manuscripts Hebrews 1:8 is one of the more commonly used scriptures for trinitarian “evidence” in spite of (in reality, because of) its obvious ambiguity. This is because on the surface (at least as found in some trinitarian-translated Bibles) it looks clear and straightforward. Also not many people have the means or the inclination to examine it more closely. Since “he saith” and the second “is” (found after “righteousness”) in the above verse are not actually found in the original manuscripts and have been added by the KJV translators, they are found in italics in most printings of the KJV. But more importantly (as a quick glance into any interlinear Greek-English New Testament will show) the first “is” (found after “God”) in the above verse is also not in the original manuscripts but has been added by some modern translators. the original NT Greek manuscripts read: “Toward but the son the throne of you the god into the age of the age.” No one should deny that the title theos (NT Greek word meaning “God,” “god,” “mighty one,” “divine,” etc.) can be applied to Jesus (at least in the writings of John - see the DEF and BOWGOD studies), just as it was applied in the scriptures to angels, judges of Israel, Moses, and (according to some trinitarian authorities) even the kings of Israel. But theos is never applied to Jesus with the most high sense that is given only to the Almighty, Most High, only true God. So it could, perhaps, have been used at Heb. 1:8 in its positive secondary sense: “Your throne, o mighty one [theos], is ...”. This seems even more probable when we remember that Paul is really quoting from Ps. 45:6. Psalm 45 is celebrating an Israelite king’s marriage, and the psalmist applies the words of Ps. 45:6, 7 literally to an ancient Israelite king. In fact, the trinitarian New American Standard Bible (NASB), Reference Edition, explains in a footnote for Ps. 45:1, “Probably refers to Solomon as a type of Christ.” So, according to this trinitarian Bible, the words of Ps. 45:6, although figuratively referring to Jesus, were literally applied to an ancient Israelite king (probably King Solomon, it says). So if Ps. 45:6 is properly translated, “your throne, O God ...” then that ancient Israelite King (Solomon?) was also literally called “O God” (or “O god”?). In fact, the highly trinitarian New American Bible, St. Joseph Edition, 1970, explains in a footnote for this verse: “The Hebrew king was called ... ‘God,’ not in the polytheistic sense common among the ancient pagans, but as meaning ‘godlike’ or ‘taking the place of God’.”

No.

Christians worship the same God Jesus worships. See John 20:17. What the churches believe is of course, not Christian.

Actually; YAHWEH. ELOHIM. JEHOVAH. ADONAI, And, EL, Are the HEBRAIC names of our GOD. YESHUA, is the name of Christ.

@@raygsbrelcik5578 : Yahweh and the most common Jehovah is the ONLY NAME of God. Isaiah 42:8  I am Jehovah. THAT IS MY NAME; I give my glory to no one else, Nor my praise to graven images. Matthew 6:9 'OUR FATHER who lives in heaven. Let YOUR NAME (singular) be sanctified. Psalms 83:18 KJV That men may know that thou, whose name ALONE IS JEHOVAH, Art the Most High over all the earth. Jesus is the most common form of the name of the Messiah. Many would have heard about Jesus and identify that name with the Messiah. Of course, Jehovah and Jesus would vary in spelling and pronunciation depending on the language being spoken. The JW website would help further.

I agree god , Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one god but different personalities of God that’s how we true Christian believe other wise what the point of the one of the ten commandments of thou shall not be other gods before him man people don’t understand the Christian trinity smh

There are one - God the Father-Jesus Christ the Son- Holy Spirit

John 13:3

Verses we can clearly tell that Jesus is not God nor son of God, but only a servant and prophet of God ✨ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4 My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME ' - 1 John 4:12 God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23: 19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. (John 5:30) Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17 " Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.” (Matthew 26:39) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27: 46 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say (John 12: 49-50) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17 :3) the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12-13) he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28: 18) Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. Mark 10:18 I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 2 Chronicles 6: 18 I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority. The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood. (John 7:16-18) Also there are others and prophets called son of God in the Bible and yet Christians don't acknowledge them to be son of God. So do not think Jesus is son of God just because is say so in the Bible. The Bible has many contradictions and mistakes in the Bible do not put your salvation on it. Jesus never said he was the son of God ✨ Here are the verses that call many others son of God Moses is instructed to say to Pharaoh "Thus saithe the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn. (Exodus 4: 22) He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him. Chronicles 28: 6 Kenan was the son of Enoch. Enoch was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God. Luke 3: 38 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. 2 Samuel 7: 13 Jesus never said he was God period. He is a slave of God just like us. Also did know other people are referred as Gods in the bible? even if you did find a verses that say Jesus is God in the bible its not at all solid proof the bible has been altered over the many century's Jesus spoke Aramaic the bible is not even in Aramaic if you think that is not a problem than I don't know what to say. Verses below Jesus calling himself a prophet of God ✨ And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Matthew 13:57 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day-for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! Luke 13:33 Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country John 4:44. By all these verses we can easily tell that Jesus is not God nor the son of God but a servant and prophet of God It is indeed very clear..

So God died?

How can all things be made by him. Read clearly. Talking about Jesus. Genesis states God created the heavens and the Earth. Bible doesn't lie.

@@robertabrao7785"All things made by him", not some things.

Jesus is God John 14:9

@@MrFord-jb1eq Verses we can clearly tell that Jesus is not God nor son of God, but only a servant and prophet of God ✨ Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one. Deuteronomy 6:4 My Father is greater than I’ (John 14:28) My father is greater than all.’ (John 10:29) No man has SEEN God at ANY TIME ' - 1 John 4:12 God is not a man nor a son of man’ (Numbers 23: 19) The Bible often calls Jesus ‘a son of man’ or ‘the son of man.’ I can do nothing by Myself; I judge only as I hear. And My judgment is just, because I do not seek My own will, but the will of Him who sent Me. (John 5:30) Jesus said to her, "Do not hold me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren and say to them, I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God." John 20:17 " Going a little farther, He fell facedown and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, let this cup pass from Me. Yet not as I will, but as You will.” (Matthew 26:39) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? Matthew 27: 46 For I did not speak on my own, but the Father who sent me commanded me to say all that I have spoken. I know that his command leads to eternal life. So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say (John 12: 49-50) The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. Acts 3:13 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. (John 17 :3) the man Christ Jesus’ (Tim. 2:5) When you pray, say Our Father which art in heaven.’ (Luke 11:2) But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Mark 13:32 The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. 13 Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. (Mark 11:12-13) he continued all night in prayer to God.’ (Luke 6:12) Just as the son of man did not come to be served, but to serve’ (Matthew 20:28) I live because of the Father.’ (John 6:57) All power is given unto me.’ (Matt 28: 18) Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. John 16:12 I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.’ (John 20:17) But will God really dwell on earth with humans? The heavens, even the highest heavens, cannot contain you. How much less this temple I have built! 2 Chronicles 6: 18 I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (Matthew 15:24) So Jesus answered them, “My teaching is not mine, but his who sent me. If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority. The one who speaks on his own authority seeks his own glory; but the one who seeks the glory of him who sent him is true, and in him there is no falsehood. (John 7:16-18) Also there are others and prophets called son of God in the Bible and yet Christians don't acknowledge them to be son of God. So do not think Jesus is son of God just because is say so in the Bible. The Bible has many contradictions and mistakes in the Bible do not put your salvation on it. Jesus never said he was the son of God ✨ Here are the verses that call many others son of God Moses is instructed to say to Pharaoh "Thus saithe the LORD, Israel is my son, my firstborn. (Exodus 4: 22) He said to me, ‘Your son Solomon is the one who shall build My house and My courts; for I have chosen him to be a son to Me, and I will be a father to him. Chronicles 28: 6 Kenan was the son of Enoch. Enoch was the son of Seth. Seth was the son of Adam. Adam was the son of God. Luke 3: 38 He is the one who will build a house for my Name, and I will establish the throne of his kingdom forever. 14 I will be his father, and he will be my son. 2 Samuel 7: 13 Jesus never said he was God period. He is a slave of God just like us. Also did know other people are referred as Gods in the bible? even if you did find a verses that say Jesus is God in the bible its not at all solid proof the bible has been altered over the many century's Jesus spoke Aramaic the bible is not even in Aramaic if you think that is not a problem than I don't know what to say. Verses below Jesus calling himself a prophet of God ✨ And they took offense at him. But Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town and in his own home. Matthew 13:57 In any case, I must press on today and tomorrow and the next day-for surely no prophet can die outside Jerusalem! Luke 13:33 Now Jesus himself had pointed out that a prophet has no honor in his own country John 4:44. By all these verses we can easily tell that Jesus is not God nor the son of God but a servant and prophet of God It is indeed very clear.,

Doesn't the bad translation of 'and the Word WAS God' end the Jesus being God theory? WAS is the past tense of IS. Wouldn't that mean that Jesus no longer IS God.

Excellent analysis Roger. I am NOT a follower of YAHWEH but your explaination is the best i have heard since 1978.

@@shaunigothictv1003 When telling people about this illustration, I usually preface it with the observation that it doesn’t “prove” anything. I think of my God as triune - and I think the piano analogy minimizes the objection that “one cannot be three” but I’m less concerned about people understanding “God” differently than I do than I’m concerned about people waxing dogmatic about this subject. You are under no obligation, of course, to tell me what your “background” is, whether you are embarked on a spiritual journey of your own or what steps you have taken in that journey but I’m (understandably?) curious about how it happens that someone who doesn't even claim to be a follower of YAHWEH would be the first person (and the only one in two months) to show an interest in my analogy. Anyway, thanks for the compliment.

@@rogermetzger7335 I do not accept the bible as the word of God or any other so called holy book. I am NOT a follower of YAHWEH. My belief is that there is ONE divine creator. That divine creator does NOT speak through any organised religion. But rather, the divine creator speaks through the good people of this world who are of all races and located in almost all geographical locations. Those who do beautiful good things in this world will be in paradise with this divine creator when they die. The evil people who do bad things in the world simply cease to exist when they die. This is NOT what the Bible and Quran teach but like i said i do not accept them as the word of God.

@@shaunigothictv1003 It is probably true that most people, if they are aware that I consider myself a Christian, assume that I subscribe to what are widely considered to be “the fundamentals of the Christian faith”. (For more about which, please consider searching the Internet using the phrase in quotation marks.) Well, I have known enough people who think of their religion as personal - not institutional - and think of themselves as reading for themselves, studying for themselves and thinking for themselves to have met some who I consider to be Christians but who prefer to refer to themselves as Jesus followers or some other designation, seemingly in the hope of NOT being considered either traditionalists or followers of a particular systematic theology or a particular religious organization. Because I wish to use the word “worship”, I should explain that most people (at least in the U.S.) have heard references to what people do in church buildings on Sunday mornings as “worship” so they seem to think of that (or something similar done elsewhere) as “worship”. When I use that word, I wish to be understood as referring to anything we do (or, in some cases, what we refrain from doing) that shows who has our highest allegiance. If you consider your highest allegiance to be to the creator of the universe, what you do (or/and what you don’t do) is influenced by that consideration because you (presumably) wish to avoid giving people any excuse to disrespect your creator. In that sense, what you do (even if you don’t participate in formal or semi-formal “worship services”) is worship by the more inclusive definition. There are a number of ways the phrase, “word of God”, is understood, even by professed Christians. Some people think of that phrase as meaning that the words of the Bible (in the original languages) were dictated by the creator and that the biblical prophets were merely his scribes. Others, while considering the Bible to be “inspired” and not necessarily opposed to the use of the phrase, “word of God”, nevertheless reject the doctrine of verbal inspiration. I’m among those who believe that - with some exceptions - it was the ideas with which the prophets were inspired, not the specific words of the original manuscripts. All of which seems a necessary background for discussing whether any book is “holy” and, if so, in what sense. If a person considered the Bible to consist of inspired ideas and that most of the words were chosen by such writers as Moses, David, and the apostles of Jesus, does that belief in the inspiration of the ideas qualify as a reason to refer to the Bible as “holy”? Likewise, if someone considers the Qur’an to have been dictated by an angel to Muhammad, does that belief qualify as a reason to refer to the Qur’an as “holy”? If the designation, “holy”, is merely an indication that a person or group of people consider a book or collection of books to be inspired by the creator, I see no reason to object to someone referring to those books as “holy”. According to Exodus 3:14, “God (the creator) said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” It is my understanding that the closest English equivalents to the Hebrew letters used in the name “I AM” are YHWH and that Hebrew copyists deleted the vowels as an indication of their respect for the name of the creator. It is on the basis of that tradition that the King James translators most often use the word “LORD” in all caps when “translating” the Hebrew “YHWH”. I have no objection to someone referring to the creator as simply “the creator” or the “ONE divine creator. One TRANSLITERATION of the Hebrew name into English is “Jehovah”. As you may have guessed, I don’t object to that designation either. Some people think of Genesis 1:1 as being about what God did. I think of that verse as being about who God is. Only the creator of the universe deserves my worship. I believe the creator has called some people to emphasize one or more aspects of the truth about who he is and how he deals with members of the human race. I believe he has called other people to one or more other emphases. Such people sometimes create organizations to more efficiently or more effectively promulgate that emphasis/those emphases but I agree with you that no religious organization can rightfully claim to be the exclusive - or even the primary - conduit of truth. Clergy may have some kinds of administrative authority within their own denominations but they don’t have any more or any other kind of SPIRITUAL authority than is freely available, from the creator himself, to every sincere and honest lay person. A few times (very few) I have been invited to attend the religious meetings of people I had recently met and discovered that it was their custom to ask visitors, at the beginning of their meetings, “Do you have any word from the Lord?” I think we can expect to be encouraged or inspired or maybe even informed by people who have as few ministerial credentials as Jesus had, i.e. none. My mother sometimes used the phrase, “the honest in heart”. I agree with what I understood her to mean by that, namely, that the creator wants to and will “save” as many humans as he can but it is easier to save people who are intellectual honest than people who claim to “believe” this or that simply because they’ve been told they’ll go to hell if they don’t. Reading the Bible as literally as I can (and acknowledging that I haven’t yet found a way to interpret the entire Bible literally), I’m satisfied that the doctrine of an eternally-burning hell is not the best way to interpret the Hebrew words that have been translated “hell” in the King James translation. Rather than adopting the traditional doctrine that good people go to heaven when they die, my own personal belief is that Jesus will return to resurrect the people who have died in faith and take living believers with them to the mansions he has gone to prepare. I also believe there will be a “second resurrection” when the finally impenitent will be given a final opportunity to reject coercion and will, instead, demonstrate their impenitence by attacking the new Jerusalem - whereupon they will be destroyed by fire that is eternal in its effect but not the means of making them suffer in perpetuity. “Most people who think they have rejected God have really only rejected a caricature of him.” - Rich Hannon In my opinion, the most monstrous caricature of the creator ever invented includes the doctrine of a perpetual hell. It seems likely that your concept of the creator is, in some ways at least, similar to that of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin and several of their friends who rejected many of the doctrines that were considered Christian in the eighteenth century - what Jefferson called the “interested” absurdities” of the clergy of his day.

@@rogermetzger7335 i read somewhere that the translation for hell was a word they used to call a place outside the walls where they burnt all the rubbish. I can't remember what the Hebrew word was though.

The meaning of the right hand is the mighty authority of God , not the right side of God. So Jesus sits on the throne :)

@@robertabrao7785 you have a problem

Not necessarily. Jesus is God in essence but Jesus the person is not God the Father. There are many instances in the New Testament where the apostles (or any of the authors of various NT books) specifically say some variation of ‘God the Father and Christ Jesus’. I’d give a specific example but I’m lazy lol check the end of any epistle, that’s usually where it’s said, in the benediction. Tbh the constant separation and delineation of God as God and Jesus as his son, directly by these authors and apostles had me doubting if Jesus is supposed to be considered God. But then of course God showed me the verses that say otherwise, the best of which being ‘The Word was God’. Can’t get anymore direct than that lol Ultimately I just leave it mostly open ended. We don’t know or understand the specifics l think. If we’re right, great! If we’re wrong, Lord forgive us. But I try not to push so much on this subject unless someones understanding of it is unbiblical.

Found one: “Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ” Philippians 1:2

@@robertabrao7785 well look in the mirror, your a lie . How can a messiah be a mortal man ? He can't....

@@robertabrao7785 incorrect. Jesus Christ is God manifest in the flesh. If you don't know that you don't know him.

@@robertabrao7785 here we go.. ok..... Robert, God Himself calls Jesus God. Hebrews 1: 8-9. But to the Son He says: “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom. You have loved righteousness and hated lawlessness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.” Yes, Jesus Claimed to be God. John 8:58 Jesus said to them, “Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM. John 10:30 Jesus said I and the Father one. They are Equal. They are one. They are distinct in nature. In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1. God created All things through Jesus Christ Colossians 1:16. I could go on and on. But Jesus is 100% God. and He was with God the Father in the Beginning. and they are One. This is all i will say on it

@@robertabrao7785 Dude... no. Jesus did not reveal God to them because God was with Him. Yes God was with Jesus but.. Jesus IS GOD Himself. Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip? He who has seen Me has seen the Father; so how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’? John 14:9. Thomas, after the ressurection said Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” John 20:28. Jesus was NOT created. Jesus is the Creator, as is the Father. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together. Col 1:17. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. Col 1:16. I dont want to hear how John 1:1 "could be translated". I care how it IS TRANSLATED, from the Original Greek, which I've read. Scripture is inherrent. The Word was with God and the Word was God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. John 1:1-3 (NASB). It's sad to see two Christians arguing. But I'm done. You have a blessed day. Scripture testifies that Jesus is God.

@@robertabrao7785 You can’t read the Bible and miss Jesus’ claims that He was the divine Son of God sent from heaven to save us from our sins. He did this often and clearly. The Gospel books of the Bible also make it clear His disciples didn’t believe His claims in the beginning, but only gradually understood and accepted them later. Really, it wasn’t until after His resurrection which proved without a doubt that Jesus Christ was who He claimed to be. His claims to be God are found in multiple verses of Scripture. Jesus told His disciples, “I and the Father are one… Whoever has seen me has seen the Father” (John 10:30, 14:9). When Thomas (a disciple who doubted that Jesus had been raised from the dead) met Christ after the resurrection, he exclaimed, “My Lord and my God!”-and Jesus accepted his praise (John 20:28). Even the enemies of Jesus knew He claimed to be God. In one of those instances, they picked up stones to try to kill Him “for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). Lots of people throughout history have claimed to be divine, but did Jesus do anything to support His claims? Yes, and in various ways. His miracles were witnessed by thousands of people and plainly displayed His unique nature. Jesus’ claim to be God was verified after He rose from the dead. Not only that, Jesus Christ told His disciples several times He would be killed but would come back to life. “We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be delivered over to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn him to death and will hand him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day he will be raised to life!” (Matthew 20:18-19). But why is this important? It’s important because only God could truly save us from our sins. If Jesus were just a great religious teacher, He would have no power to bring us forgiveness. But because Jesus is God, He could die as the perfect and complete sacrifice for our sins. Amen

@@hoc1992 You appear not to have been deceived by this presentation. FYI, The God in the OT became our Christ. Christ said: "No one has seen The Father, heard His voice, or seen His Shape." This is from the lips of my Christ.

@@lmhayes60 amen.. amen.. i have nothing to say about that, i agree

To be baptized in the name of the Father, Son and holy spirit was coupled with 'teaching those wanting to be baptized to OBSERVE ALL the things Jesus commanded (Matthew 28:20). No one was ever baptized using that formula. The Disciples understood what it meant. People should know who God is. Who Jesus is. And what the holy spirit is, before getting baptized. Giving them the authority to get baptized.

Not in the least, actually. A lot of 'holes in his explanation.

Then you believe wrong, Who lied to you?

That is correct! Jesus himself made this clear. (John 4:34) Jesus said to them: “My food is to do the will of HIM WHO SENT ME and to finish HIS WORK. Jesus didn't come on a mission of his own. God SENT him to carry out God's Will..

@@tongakhan230 Jesus also said that the Father was literally "dwelling within him". John 14:10 10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

@@bible1st The, "SPIRIT" of GOD dwells within BELIEVERS, as well, My friend-----It doesn't mean we are....GOD! But Jesus, because of his, "OBEDIENCE" to his FATHER, was "GIVEN" a Much GREATER Measure! ACTS 10:38-42. PHIL.2:8-11.

@@raygsbrelcik5578 Colossians 2:9 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

(Acts 20:30) and from among you yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples after themselves. Christians never believed in the Trinity. The apostates did.

The BIBLE is full of verses for the TRIUNE God the Lord Jesus.🧐 Starts with the very first chapter of the first book - Genesis 1:1,2,26 Finishes with the LORD GOD of the prophets - YESHUA Revelation 22:6-16 Lord bless His people.😏

Are you ok? 🤨

That's literally not true. And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

Actually Jesus was a TRANSFER of an angel into a human form. (Philippians 2:7) No, but he emptied himself (of his angelic spirit form) and took a slave’s form and BECAME HUMAN. Caterpillars change into butterflies all the time.

@@consolelivesmatter NO, actually, Rebecca is Correct! You have not Studied GENESIS, much less, the ENTIRE Bible, in order to Explain GEN.1:26. ASK me----I'll be more than happy to Explain the Scripture! Okay? GOD bless.

@@tongakhan230 JW'S are totally Wrong, here, Tonga! Jesus was NEVER a, "Spirit!" That is a Corrupted interpretation, Specific to the JW religion.

If Jesus is the Father, then why did he say that his Father was greater than him in John 14:28? If they are exactly the same, this is a contradiction. However, the trinity doctrine explains this nicely. Jesus is lesser than the Father positionally because fathers have authority over their children; they are two different people and both God.

John 10:27-30 My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father’s hand. I and My Father are one.”

Haha no he's not yikes !!!! How can anyone that is truly born again believe that no, no and no

No, that simply is not true

@@7Logik what is your belief?

Isaiah 9:6 is a prophecy. That would mean that until it is fulfilled, the promised one was NOT any of those titles. "WILL BE CALLED' is futuristic in tense.

*DOES JESUS CHRIST CLAIM DIVINITY?* • *John17:3* Jesus Christ said the Father is the only true God who sent him. • *Matthew 11:27* Jesus Christ said all things have been committed to him by the Father. • *Matthew 20:23* Jesus Christ said only the Father able to grant a place in his kingdom. • *Matthew 24:36* Jesus Christ said only the Father knows 'the Hour'. • *Matthew 28:18* Jesus Christ said all authority are given by the Father. • *John 5:30* Jesus Christ said his judgement are according to the Father. • *John 7:16* Jesus Christ said his teaching comes from the Father. • *John 12:49* Jesus Christ said he speak according to the Father's command. • *John 14:28* Jesus Christ said the Father is greater than him. • *John 17:4* Jesus Christ said the work he does is given by the Father.