Are iPads REALLY Dying? 

I totally agree with you, Crist. I used to have two items (MacBook Air and iPad Pro) and both were great for me. However, I sold my MacBook Air because I do a lot of things with my iPad for my work. Like you said, the iPad and MacBook are totally different, but they both help you get your tasks done. In the end, it depends on what you want to accomplish or achieve with your tasks. As I said, both items were good and I have no complaints about them, but for me, the iPad works well for my tasks.

This is a great take on the iPad Pro. I have a 12.9" iPad Pro and a MacBook and agree that they do different things and both can make sense in your life, and with the Magic Keyboard I totally agree -- the iPad then offers most of the flexibility of the Mac but still gives everything that's great about a tablet. Also worth mentioning that the 12.9" iPad Pro has the XDR display that the MacBook does not. For me, that matters.

They are complimentary products and not trying to replace each in any way. I have carried both Mac and iPad for years and use the heck out of both of them daily. Honestly, from 12.9 Pro to Mini… my iPad Minis have always had a special place in my workflow. But that is the point… individual use case is the most important thing unless you have both and if you do, you will find how they work best together.

I saw the other video, and I think your rebuttal is brilliant and fair. I switched from pc to the Apple Universe five years ago at the ripe young age of 70. Today I have the iMac 27.5”, an iPad Pro 11”, an iPad Mini and an iPhone 12 Pro Max, and each has a specific use, and I.m at each of them every day. I don’t expect any of them to do what the others do. Well done!

Definitely agree with you. We work on MacBook pros, and iPad pros. The iPads are so much easier to lug around knowing that we can auto transfer. Because it’s just easier for us to use. Each one does its own thing.

As an illustrator, the iPad Pro is a vital tool. The only thing I ever use my Mac for is to scan physical artwork. I’ve bought newer Macs in recent years, only to return them, because they really don’t offer me anything new to my current need on a Mac. My 10 year old MacBook can handle it, as long as it still breathes. But even with scanning, I can use my flatbed scanner on my iPad. I don’t have as many options like I do scanning directly from Photoshop. My iPad gets constant use, where at most, I use a MacBook for about 15 minutes a week

Great video and I agree with you. Too many people try to fit the iPad Pro into the Mac use case. They're two different use cases; it's awesome that work on either platform is integrated with iCloud so we have the flexibility.

Chris, absolutely loved this episode and agree completely with your premise. Appreciated the insights and positioning.

Sadly, the iPad series and the rest of the tablet umbrella succumb to the “middle sibling” syndrome

Just got my first ipad a few weeks ago and couldn’t be more satisfied with it, it’s amazing! And yes, my decision of buying an ipad over a macbook was a whole process and at the end the ipad was more made for my special needs. Great video

I have the first M1 iPad Pro and I appreciate how long it has remained relevant for my use case . In fact, I replaced my 2015 MacBook Pro with the iPad Pro when my logic board went out. I have a few hobbies that are dependent on Windows so my other computer is a windows laptop. With cloud solutions it’s pretty seamless working on things using both. My desk setup includes a Logitech keyboard and mouse with a 27” monitor that I can toggle between the two and it works well enough that I have been running this setup for about 3 years. It’s fairly safe to say that if I were to integrate another MacOS machine into the mix in the future, it would likely be a Mac Mini and not a laptop. No judgement on others doing different things that work for them and I agree that Apple understands this and has generally been pretty perceptive to its customers.

Good analysis! I use both a lot and they each have their place.

I just like the way your brain works. You are fairness backed by logic and reason. I am so happy you have offered a course that can help others assimilate good practices. If my health were better and I was twenty years younger, I’d be checking that out.

Yes. This video. For every point you made. Thank you so much.

Spot on rebuttal. It resonated with me greatly. I’ll just say I’ve been a content creator and professor of media tools for quite some time. For many years I’ve had to (like all of us) move and shift with changes in tech (anyone remember going from NuBus to PCI hardware with the Mac). I have found my way to maximizing the benefits of the Mac and the iPad very nicely now… and I actually use two iPads and a Mac Mini M2. My iPad Pro 12.9” has a Magic Keyboard and has replaced my MacBook Air for daily work and my iPad Mini 6 is my notetaking device ( I love handwriting notes with the Nebo app) for replacing paper and having my notes everywhere (thank you Paperlike!). My M2 Mac Mini is connected to my entire recording studio/art studio and handles Final Cut, Logic, and Adobe apps. I use the Logic Remote app on my iPad to control Logic Pro on my Mac Mini from across the room when I’m tracking on my weighted Roland keyboard. I can’t imagine life without these products. Great job on this video… the Mac and iPad are two devices with different use cases for many people… sometimes you just have to spend some money to get what you need in order to streamline your workflow… I’ve definitely found it in these devices. Thanks for making this video… it supported what I’ve been experiencing over the years.

Thanks for a great review. I have the 11" iPad Pro and the 13" MacBook Air. I love them both and sometimes I use them together with the iPad as a second screen.

I love your prospective. Good work

I switched to the 2018 iPad Pro first without ever using a MacBook. The iPad experience won me to the Mac with the new Apple silicon. I use both all the time. Great job with this video.

That video popped up on my feed and I had on my watch list. You just saved me the time! I have the latest iPad Pro 12.9 inch, and it’s one of the best purchases I’ve ever done. It’s my third iPad. I’m super grateful to have been able to get one. Love it!!

I am also still using my 2018 iPad Pro. I think both iPad and MacBook have value. My MacBook does higher horsepower things and my iPad is for lesser needs. Sometimes it's really nice to have that touchscreen with Apple Pencil and other times it's nice to use the MacBook with its capabilities. I agree with your take on this Chris. Thanks for this video!

Chris, you nailed it in this video. I can't imagine not using my iPad Pro and MacBook together each and every day. However, when I use them separately they have their own use. Individually they are powerful. Together they are a very powerful tool in my workflow.

Excellent video. For years I’ve had both a macbook and an iPad and use both, depending on what I’m doing. Macbook for writing long documents (often with external display), working with big spreadsheets, creating Powerpoints and similar. Great if you need multiple apps open, eg Word, Excel, mail etc. Ipad if I’m sitting in a coffee shop reading email (it’s lightweight & convenient), checking diary / making quick notes or just browsing sitting in an easy chair. I’ve got the keyboard for my ipad pro, but don’t use it much. A major plus for having an ipad for me is portability, lightweight and convenience.

Having used Macs since the clamshell, I am most comfortable editing photographs and videos on an iMac. I need the bigger screen. Absolutely everything else on an iPad. So I don’t have a need for a MacBook.

You are 100% right.great job.

Clear and well reasoned arguments, well done.

I love my 2018 iPad Pro and still use it every day. I use it for processing photos and video, taking notes and love the portability.

My 12.9" 2018 Pro is now a second screen. I have a second hand 2020 9.7" for home work and a mini 6 for my travel work.

Excellent reply! I use both side by side, and for my daily work as a musician, the iPad pro has been a godsend!

Thoughtful response and opinion. I’m an academic professor and conduct roughly 95% of my research and teaching on iPad Pro 12’9 with no issues. It meets all my daily needs and major projects. There are rare times where I have to go to my office Mac for minor file conversions due to software limitations on iPad apps… which I suspect is due to developer decisions.

So glad to have found this video. Made me subscribe and add notifications. I saw the “other” video… I left a comment about how much the lightweight iPad, not having a keyboard, and the most notable touchscreen are what I love the most about the iPad Pro. I’m on my 2018 iPad Pro 11” almost all the time. My m1 Mac fills in when I feel like I need a bigger desktop. Even when traveling I’ve never missed my desktop or MacBook. Would not mind another incremental iPad Pro update soon or even a big update. Does not matter. I’ll buy the next iPad Pro even though… I don’t need to. It’s just time to update the technology. I have been gifted 5 years of patience because the 2018 iPad Pro 11” is simply amazing . Great video Chris.

To your point about longevity, I had the iPad Pro 9.7 from 2016. The battery started to deteriorate over that last year or so, but was still supported up to ios 16. That’s 7 years of support. For any tech device that’s really good. I’d been interested in the 12.9 iPads since they came out so I finally upgraded to the M2 iPad Pro. And I’m sure I’ll have it just as long.

Excellent video. Thank you.

I’m glad someone’s standing up for iPads I love it for my editing flow for photography and even everyday media consumption. And now there’s an option to use a capture card and make it a monitor now you can have a mini xdr display as well!

I just used my iPad Pro for a specific task in my office this afternoon, and all my colleagues told me it was great!

I do a lot of my college work on my iPad it’s where all my lecture notes is. In addition I like how I can save on paper in printing and be more organized 😅

Agreed! Pick the product that meets your requirements. I have a MacBook Pro M1 and an iPad Pro M1 and use my iPad for almost everything. When I do have to get a lot of work done such as typing a paper, surfing the web, pulling images, creating slides, I do like to use my MacBook as I feel that the multitasking on that product is much easier.

Thanks for sharing. I have both and use them as complementary devices. Blessings on your day!

I'd take the iPad any day, love it... but I really need chrome extensions to work with the chrome browser and it could handle 100% of my workflow

I have both Mac and iPad and use both as you properly point out they two different tools and I enjoy both

I agree wholeheartedly ! The I pad Pro is a unique device ! I ‘m planing to add an I pad Air to give another option for my work load !

As a professional graphic designer and indie comic creator, I wish Apple would make a separate MacBook Pro line that is similar to the Microsoft Surface Laptop Studio. A MacBook Pro with touchscreen/Apple Pencil support would be a dream come true. And still I would get an iPad, maybe not a iPad Pro though lol. Only because it would be mainly for media consumption, and the iPad Pro would be overkill for that.

As a longtime and once very passionate iPad user I have to admit that most of my private reading - ebooks, newspapers, websites - shifted overtime to my iPhone Pro Max. Between the Phone and my MBA the iPad became a single task device for digital note-taking.

Thank you for this video. I saw the one video you referred to, and while I like watching his videos, my views of the iPad is more aligned to your perspective.

I have a Mac, and a ipad Pro, and If i choose one then Id choose the ipad. I can also do all my work on the iPad, and dont really need a mac anymore. I love using the apple pencil, and my favorite apps are Affinity Designer, Affinity Photo, Procreate, and LumaFusion. I also love taking notes on it. Thanks for creating this video, and keep doing what you do which is creating awesome, and informative content.

About a year and a half ago I switched completely from a MacBook Air to the iPad Pro and I have not looked back. The difference, as you mentioned, is the end user needs. I love photography so I can edit my photos on the iPad but I can’t also use Microsoft 365 for budgeting and documents… It is all about end user needs!!!

tks for the video! i'm trying my best to have a good workflow integrating my linux pc and my ipad pro. i love both and been using the ipad as a second monitor or a mini computer to some tasks

I couldn’t agree more. If anything, the iPad is more alive now than ever. Especially taking into consideration the new iPad OS. Great video.

Using an iPad Pro after several other iPads. Since the 1st iPad I have been an iPad only user and especially now the easy of use and the quick way I can multitask or draw on the screen really is a big advantage for me as a teacher

I'm down to your point of view. I use both, but fighting every day to stay 100% "iPadish" - I work with video production and few options are not available, hope soon they'll come to iPad!

👏👏I thought the exact same thing when watching the mentioned video! Thank you for saying it!

Agreed with your more sensible, thoughtful, considerate perspective. The alluded to content creator hasn’t been my bag for a while, but I respect the notion of “to each his or her or their own.” Love both my iPad Pro and my MacBook Pro. Do the devices overlap a bit?-Sure. But neither is “dying” … and a little overlap offers me different springboards for similar (or the same) tasks. I can take notes, browse the web, consume media, etc. on both devices, and depending upon the moment, I may use either depending upon my mood. I don’t see them as competing in that way, but rather as complimentary. And I’ll second the lack of need for a keyboard-sheer tablet user here that feels a keyboard defiles my iPad experience.

Hi there. Could you help me to figure out which iPad should I go with? I can buy an iPad air 5 for $370 and 12.9” m1 iPad Pro for $620. (Both are used and I have a macbook air as well.) My main usage will be note taking, reading news, papers, articles, watching youtube videos and mostly for the educational purposes.

I use a iPad Pro with a manic keyboard it’s totally marvellous 😻😻😻

I agree, I initially started using a MacBook Air m2 and then got myself an iPad mini which lines up perfectly

Great Video, wish you did this video a month sooner 😂. I had MacBook Pro (2014) & 3rd 11” iPad Pro. Both still run great but decided time to upgrade since I started my MBA, so I checked out the apple education store. I went back and forth between which to upgrade but decided to get 12.9 iPad Pro. I really liked what stage manager offered, so paired it with the studio display. Your video hits home when you start talking about accessories though. I found myself spending so much time looking at cases, stands, keyboards which led me to this whole RU-vid tech review world and channels like yours. I really liked my set up, as it gave me a computer feel when I was at my desk but could just take my iPad alone when relaxing in the evening to study, watch videos, read, etc. However, there was a void in certain things a MAC offer that was missing. So after a few weeks , I went ahead and added a MAC studio to my set up. Overkill for sure, but I tend to use my tech longer term and they both do seem “future proof’ for many years. Main accessories I went with was Keytron K8 pro & Logitech MX 3s, both really solid. Using both IPad and Mac with universal control is amazing! Although I didn’t plan on it, I guess I fit into the both category and apple makes having multiple devices so seamless.

I just upgraded from my 2018 iPad Pro. I notice a huge difference, but I didn’t realize before what I was missing. I can now comfortably play Divinity Original Sin II on my iPad with a decent frame rate. It was unplayable on my 2018 model.

For me my iPad is an extension of my MacBook, I use them both for very specific productivity tasks (I am a software developer), but the iPad is my to go companion, I use it for media consumption, navigation, meetings, music, etc. I use it more than my MacBook and Phone combined haha

I have a 14in MacBook Pro and 11in iPad Pro. I enjoy the iPad for entertainment, reading, journaling and when I travel. I also like to use it to stream workout classes and as a second screen to my MacBook. I’m studying for an IT certification and the labs in the class require an actual computer

I'm a college student & I have both an iPad Pro & and MacBook Air. I use the iPad every single day for my classes. iPad + Goodnotes is the absolute best thing for college students, bar none. Instead of packing around textbooks & notebooks & pens & pencils etc, I have all that & more on my iPad. So convenient & awesome. But my MacBook is for writing essays, making PowerPoints, doing deep research, etc. For my use case, both are amazing tools that I would be so much worse off without.

I use both and will continue to do so

Great video bro ❤

Great video, you get it thank you. LOVE MY IPAD PRO 2021❤

I have a MacBook Air M2 256 GB for work in the office and on the go, iPad Pro 2022 and a Mac mini 2021 16gb Ram for my professional Music work for my Bedroom studio. I use all devices for different things and enjoy all of them and the eco system is just amazing. When you start comparing we are talking about people who can only get one device to do all the things... Depends all on why you need the device and your current budget.

I have both for school, an M1 MacBook Air and M1 iPad Air. I use the Mac for homework and communication, the iPad for reading my books, taking notes, and in my next class I need a second screen so I can use my iPad for that.

You Nailed It.

When the iPhone launch it changed the game and disrupted every productivity device. Now you have one device that have these capabilities to do things a computer can just not as good because of the size which restricted the use ability. The size restricted how it can be use but it was such an easy intuitive design that almost anyone can learn in less than a week. Today you have college classes that last semesters just to teach you how to use a computer. iPhone had simplicity Mac had ability. The iPad was and is a perfect device to bridge that gap between simplicity and ability. You can purchase an iPad and in a week understand 90% of it. And that’s why the basic iPad models to the air are perfect for 90% of the customers where the iPad Pro and air is perfect for the other 10% where it gives the extra more “ complex” Mac ability but does not over whelm majority of the OS where the average person can still grab it and use 90% of it.

I’ve been using the iPad since it came out, but it wasn’t until iPad 2 that I tried to replace my MacBook and use my iPad as a laptop full time. I ended up using the iPad 70% of the time in conjunction with my MacBook. Since the 2018 iPad Pro, I use my iPad 80% of the time together with my MacBook. Now that it’s 2023, I have been using my M2 iPad Pro 90% of the time and my MacBook Pro just chillin, and that’s because of stage manager and external monitor support and external webcam support. Love them both btw for different purpose

I definitely agree with you, I use my iPad Pro for drawing and photo editing and lidar mapping.

Occasionally there are apps or interfaces that just work better on my MacBook Pro, and I do my heavy lifting video and motion graphics on the MacBook…but I use the iPad (Pro and mini) for creating content with the pencil and apps, and even a lot of video stuff. I really only pull out the laptop when I need it’s very specific qualities.

Where did you get your spiral light surrounding your HomePod??

Hi, are you not providing your wallpapers anymore? Because the link you gave in your wallpaper video from 2022 is not working

Completely agree, good take.

In my use case, my iPad mini 6 is for work (note taking), and my Mac is a M1 mini on my 4K TV for surfing and streaming TV. I don't currently have use case for a laptop. If that were to change, I'd consider a MacBook for sure.

I just came back to owning a iPad, I have a MBP, iPhone 14 Pro Max. They all have use in my life. It also helps that I always buy used.

As a PhD student, I thought about buying a MacBook but ultimately decided to go for an IPad Pro because the device is so versatile….Yes, I could’ve done a Mac, but I found more value in the iPad via its versatility. I love connecting to my external display and get work done and then taking my iPad to read a book or watch RU-vid. It’s sooo thing and light

I went from a 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro to the most recent iPad Pro 12-inch. Never ever thought I’d say this. I LOVE my iPad. And it’s now my main computer.

Definitely agree, i’ve been using 95% of the time the iPad Pro 2018 its been five years now and it still feels brand new to me, specially with the new iPad OS. I also have a macbook air and I usually dont use it as much and when I do I find myself constantly touching the screen and feel frustrated 😂

6:44 finally someone that see tech as we all should I’m subbing my guy

I'm a big proponent of both the iPad and the MacBook Pro 16". However, the one thing that I don't like is that the iPad doesn't FaceTime in the landscape mode, but I usually use the Mac for that anyway. Maybe this year for the iPad though! 😀

PREACH, my brother!!! You are one of my top 2-3 presenters - not on RU-vid but anywhere. You aren’t obnoxious-unless you count your video thumbnails!!😂 I’m JOKING!!! - you have to grab attention & totally understand, but I truly have no negatives, so I just made up a small barb to have some fun 😂 You don’t have some over-the-top presentation w/ fireworks, ulterior motives simply to sell something (we all have to eat, but that’s not what I’m talking about-I try to buy stuff from you as much as possible like screensavers, etc., to help out you & others whose work I respect & can see your goal is to ACTUALLY HELP VIEWERS. It is thoroughly appreciated, so those who can, should support the channel for hardworking, highly driven & intelligent people like you! Thank you for keeping them crisp, clean & quick! They are fantastic and you know what you’re doing. - NOTE, I am not one of Chris’s parents or relatives -🎉😂 Oh yeah, and this - they can have my iPad…when they pry it from my cold, dead fingers…and my Apple pencil will be in the other hand…

I’ve been using my iPad Pro since the m1 came out the last one I had was the iPad 2 I was mind blown by how much you could do with it now compared to back then. I was exited when stage manager came out that was my main complaint is multitasking. My only complaint now is uploading to websites is much easier dragging and dropping on a Mac that you can’t do with most iPad apps etc.

Thank you for pointing out the fact this depends on the user because no one else seems to wanna mention this, it’s just all about what the iPad Pro cannot do. I love my iPad Pro and I love my MBP. My MacBook Pro is where I type of assignments, check emails, web browsing, Zoom calls, and some light gaming. My iPad Pro is used for FaceTime, Netflix and Disney Plus, checking email, filling in and signing documents, writing notes, web browsing, and light gaming, and it’s a lightweight travel device. Different software experiences and uses for me.

I’m sitting here listening to Chris on my 12.9 iPad pro gen two and lovin it! I’ll never be without an iPad Pro.

I get you! I saw that video and as a user of both an ipad and a 15 inch older macbook pro (i9), I would totally be down with an ipad that has the ability to run illustrator in a way that I’m fluent with. I see what you mean though. I think that had I more time to invest in utilizing my ipad more, it would definitely stand to replace more of my workflow especially on the go. The reality is though, that it isn’t for me in that way. Going on a trip, if I want productivity, I take the mac, if I want to view content, I take the ipad. One thing in that video that does make you think is that when you’re staring at the larger macbook pro with a magic keyboard on it or a regular apple keyboard for that matter and a mouse, you kinda just wonder if the software could offer a couple percent closer to that core experience so that the software is also producing that same modularity and flexibility that the hardware is. It’s not worth it likely though as it’s not going to be something to flow over to the smaller ipads so it doesn’t represent a very large chunk of the pie. I can bet they check out pc devices that try to offer that software flexibility though and if they have a good idea on how to solve it, they probably will. With a 15 inch macbook air, who knows, maybe we’ll end up seeing a larger ipad someday.

Ya I’m an artist and never in my life have I used a keyboard on my iPad Pro, just the Apple Pencil.

Perfect response!! It’s living and almost perfect. Da vinci resolve, procreate dreams…more and more pro each day.

My iPad mini is my second most used computer behind my gaming PC

For me, I use a laptop for work and iPad for personal use. If I required a device for video editing then I would use the Mac Mini, e.g. I use the same keyboard and monitor I have setup for my work laptop.

As a musician, I use my ipad pro to store music scores As a student, I used my ipad for note taking As a working adult, I use my ipad to sign documents and fill forms, but also to watch videos and series These are all use cases that are way more practical on an iPad than on a macbook (if not impossible on a macbook)

To be honest. I haven’t really used my MacBook forever. I’ve been more on my iPad for years now..from drawing/photos/videos/mastering music etc..my iPad gave me all that and more. I love going on hikes etc and my iPad is right there..every idea I get on the go is right there on my iPad…an idea about sketching hit when I’m out, my iPad is right there, I sketch it..a music riff pops in my head, boom..iPad is here etc. my iPad is my MacBook.

if iPad Air 6 comes in 120 hz. im upgrading my 10.5 inch iPad Pro. but if iPad mini comes with 120hz also... I don't know which one to get.

I’m with ya Chris!

If Apple removed the 4 app limit for apps on an external display and let me do away with the stage paradigm entirely, I would use it 1000% more. I always feel like Stage Manager gets in the way of what I'm trying to do.

So like I'm an artist and I mostly work on PC with a pen display. But I want to get my first iPad. I want the 12.9. I think it is iPad pro M2. Do you think it's worth waiting for the next version to come out? Because they said it's going to have the M3 chip and it will be the first major upgrade.

I just got the iPad Pro 10 inch last year, I don’t think it’s dying at all. I use my iPad everyday.

I buy my IPad Pro from Verizon with Cellular with interest free payments. When I pay off the iPad Pro, I trade will it in and get the next newer one. Looking forward to next one coming on in the next few months.

I actually got a raspberry pi and use it with my ipad. There is another channel that has this, I have an edge case where I would rather have my 11” ipad and pi vs a macbook. I agree that the ipad will always have a special place in my workflow and for many years to come, i will use both… unless apple gives us a way to partition an ipad into two sections, mac os lite + ipad os and you get to switch between the two.

I agree with you, Chris. I enjoy my iPad pro even though I don’t do all that I planned with it. Still, I use it more than my Windows laptop simply because it is a transformer, when I want only to draw on it. At some point, I will get a MacBook because I see the usefulness of having both tablet and laptop. Not everything is fully functional between Apple and Windows like Notion and Canva. And even Notion is more easily edited on my laptop than on my tablet. My only regret with the purchase of this iPad pro is that I bought it with too little storage at 128 Gb. I enjoyed your video, really like the way you parsed this out.

You can’t turn a MacBook into an iPad but for the cost of the iPad accessories needed to turn an iPad into a MacBook you could buy an iPad and have the best of both worlds.

Agree. The only things I would hope for is at least 8 apps instead of 4 per screen and the after that all I need is for Zoom to integrate into SharePlay for better screen share capabilities and most knowledge workers will be set free!