I am fine with modifying bike to my needs. But now, when I am selling my 701 Enduro, I find that it makes it much harder to find a rider that will appreciate it... here are my thoughts from the 701 selling process.
IMHO, I consider the money I spend on mods lost in regard to resale. I generally keep all the stock components well packaged, and let the potential buyer know they will come with the bike. On occasion, I've removed things like an aftermarket exhaust or seat (things that are easy to swap out), if they are really particular to my taste (say an exhaust system that removes the passenger pegs), that might hinder the sale for someone. If I've wired something into it, or installed something that would take too many hours to remove, it stays. If it's small things I know I will want to use on the new bike, they come off, unless I just want that new part smell.
Thanks, John. This is exactly what finally happened, I have removed all easy to take off mods and sold it separately. I have saved a few things for my next bike (like doubletake mirrors). Interestingly, the new owner of my 701 decided to mod quite a few of the things that I also did before... So, he would be happy to get the bike as it was with all of the mods... Well... It seems I wasn't patient enough ;)
I believe mods are like fashion clothes in a color that second-hand bike buyers don't like and don't want to pay too much for. The real culprits are the bike manufacturers that cheap out on basic functionality. Mod manufacturers take advantage and charge too high prices because owners want to pimp their bikes.
Thanks, Peter. So true with the low quality parts mounted by the producers... and yes, I will probably end up replacing aftermarket parts with the factory ones to extend the group of potential buyers.
For me, purchasing a modded bike depends on the mods. If the mods are high quality and well thought out, which are the kind of mods I would do myself, then I value a modded bike. But if they are just for looks and of low quality, I won’t buy the bike - even if it is cheaper - because they indicate to me that the owner may have not taken care in maintenance. An example of mods that indicate low quality to me is a bike loaded with Tusk parts. Or a bike that you can’t even tell what manufacturer brand it is anymore. Those are hard passes for me
Yeah, you are right. My experience from selling 701 with (I agree, in my opinion ;) reasonable and high quality mods was quite bad, but overall I absolutely agree with your point of view. Thank you for the comment, best!
I bought a 2018 KTM 690 Enduro especially for the mods! Tower, software, range extender tank, fuel dongle, wheels, sat nav etc etc. A classic bike is a different thing where originality is almost a religion.
Hey Ian and thank you for the comment. I wish there were more riders like you, appreciating those much required mods fixing all of the factory parts issues :)
@@CykloGamonie I’d have had your bike but for the fact I’m in the UK and my partner wouldn’t be exactly delighted by another bike! She’s not really a fan.
to be honest, my wife is not a fan of riding as my passenger (she says it is boring :) ), but luckily she is absolutely supportive for my motorcycle hobby :)
@@CykloGamonie Mine too. As I get older I’m aware of my limitations and carrying a passenger worries me. I hate riding pillion. I guess most bikers do. I did long trips with my ex on old BMWs, a 1980 Bonneville, a T3 Cali, a Varadero but those trips were all more than 20 years ago. I wouldn’t see the joy not riding unless a Gold Wind or other super comfy bike. I’m heading to the US next week for a week of 690 riding prior to a 4,000 mile trek next May. Let’s hope I’m up to it!
Doesn't this modifying apply to the whole motorcycle industry? There is an entire market of suppliers depending on manufacturers to build a basic motorcycle where you have to buy additional components (clutch cover to prevent the rear brake lever to put a hole in it is a straightforward example) to get it 'right' or 'the way it should have been build out of the factory'. I agree with you to rather have a modded bike where the former owner has experience with the mods and the reasons to put them on the motorcycle. I do have an additional question with regard to luggage. In this video I see the Kriega OS mounted on the 701 (can't see what size the bags are, 12 or 18 L?). In another video I've seen the 21Brother Rogal 40L. Would you be so kind to share your experience with both of these systems, since I'm looking for a set up to ride off road. I'm interested to know how these systems deal with the weight distribution, as I'm assuming you try to put all the heavy stuff as low as it gets, and as forward to the engine as possible. And how fast is it, for each system to take it off the bike, in case of a fall or at the end of the day when you set up camp, and (might) take the luggage inside your tent. Other question I have is with regard to the Rade Garage Tower. Did you install it yourself? If you did, or didn't :), is it plug-and-play, or do you have to be an electrician to be able to mount it? Looking forward to your reply!
Hey there and thank you for your comment and questions. 100% agree with the aftermarket parts, some of them are simply required to go off-road. Manufacturer is selling a bike with many parts being approved by the accountants, not riders... In regards to luggage - yes, I have tried a few solutions and my observations are: 21 brothers 40L (21brothers.pl/produkt/rogal-40l/) this is bulletproof bag, very good quality material and because of that quite heavy compared to Kriega OS. I was using that bag on my CRF250 Rally and during my trips I was not taking this bag off my bike, as this was either easy or fast to to. Because of that one morning I found out that some robber was going through my bag during the night (I didn't leave anything important in the bag and the parking space was on a closed parking, but still there was someone interested what is inside...) Kriega OS (my bags are 2x18l) - a bit less space (-4l vs 21 brothers), but very easy to mount and take off too - literally it takes 30 seconds.. And now I am taking bags with me into the room. My only concern is that the base is quite sharp on edges and will scratch your frame or plastics (you need to protect the whole surface with something). And my tower was not Rade Garage - it is Adventure Bike from Belgium. And yes, I was working on it with my good friend and we did it ourselves. I believe it is doable in one weekend if you are not even experienced with mechanics. Cheers!
We do the mods to fix the flaws that come with the bike and customize to our own liking. I would only sell something separately if it was easy to swap for the original.
Thanks, Rick. That's exactly what I did. All OEM parts are now back on the bike, except for the tower, as taking it off will require some time. All the best!
I have friend with modified Husky 2019 with all mods you want even Rade garage tower and extra fuel tank..and his price is 11.000 eur of course for a reason... but in real life he can't sell it becouse new one 2023 is 11.500eur
True. I have already sold many mods off my 701 and now it is very close to the initial setup. And the more I ride it now, the more often I think that selling it would be a mistake...
@@CykloGamonie Norden is good but for serious TET offroad can be to heavy . Also you hit the jackpot with your 701 becouse your have no serious problems.
In my experience in owning a motorcycle dealership in the past mods don't make your bike worth less but they also don't make it worth more. An example would be you might like the tower but the next owner may not so they will have to pay more money to put it back to stock which they may prefer. The more you personalize the machine the less it appeals to the masses.
True. I kept all of the OEM parts and now put those back on my 701. Most aftermarket parts have found their new owners through a forum. Thank you for both of your comments! :)
First people are buying a price. Second your modifications are not those that I would choose so I don't want to pay for it and loose time to dismount and they lying on the shelf for years. Third most of the time some modifications are done by real pig, electrics cuts with tape or screw screwed in with a hammer, to go back it's just misery. So i prefer buying an more expensive stock bike than a modified less expensive bike, or just with what I want to do on it eventually witch is rare.
Hey DJeff, yes, I also agree with that pov. Finally, I have sold 90% of my mods separately and bike found its new owner with basically rally tower only.
IT is not hard, but many owners loves bike so much and they just crazy abt price. Noones care aby you modifiction and what's kind of trip do you done.... Just like that.....
thanks for the comment and you are probably right. Yet it is still a bit odd when you provide basic protection mods and people are not happy with it :) Well, again, you must be right. I am already taking off mods off my 701 and selling those online. Cheers!
@@kajuszzubrecki2194 Dziękuję :) F800GS piękny sprzęt, miałem przez 7 wspaniałych lat (np ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eU70ByFkjOk.html), ale jeśli kiedyś wrócę do GSów, to będzie to tylko Król Szos R1250/R1300GS :)
