Are people DONE with Pat McGrath Labs?! (the RISE and FALL) 

I never cared for this brand because I'm perfectly able to find wonderful products in a fraction of PMG prices.

I love pat McGrath as a person so much, she’s such an inspiration and it’s my goal to work with her. For the last year or so it feels like she’s no longer at the helm of the brand, it doesn’t feel like a MUA is behind it anymore. My focus lately has been Lisa Eldridge, she takes her time with products and it shows

My biggest beef with pat is that she refuses to sell the blitz astral shades as singles😭. She got rid of the singles altogether. I get that I’m probably not part of her targeted customer base, but even from a business perspective selling those as single’s would be a GREAT idea. Blitz astral solstice would carry all her sales the way space cowboy does for urban decay. I’m just so annoyed lol.

As a makeup artist I feel like her astral blitz formula was something new and interesting on the market and definitely worth the price, for me. Performance of her shadows is excellent. However, her more recent releases have been very disappointing and basically all the same. I love Pat as an artist and she is obviously iconic, but from an artistry standpoint it’s just not innovative anymore. Danessa Myricks is a true innovator and her palettes and products are a better investment for me!

Her new/re-release of mothership Starwars palette/Midnight sun palette with sticker over her sleek packaging for 125€ when original was on 50% sale (at Sephora) at the same time perfectly summerises how I feel about the whole brand. What are they even doing? Are they lux or mid? Are they even original anymore? Obviously they don’t know either. Smh. Thanks for the video ❤

Man I used to LOVE Pat’s stuff. I have 5 mothership palettes, along with several blushes, highlights, and lip products. For me, I was done when she got rid of her baked blitz astral shades and repeated color stories. I have enough rosy tones from her. Give me a grungy, subculture esque color story. Edit: Mothership 1 is my favorite too :) I’m wearing the mattes in my profile pic

I bought her holiday palette at TJ Maxx for $35 dollars and it’s pretty nice. I don’t use it every day but it’s nice to have when I do shows and need color.

For me, Pat Mcgrath was one of first WOC who made quality, luxe makeup that actually worked for skin tones darker than mayo. Her brand will always be iconic and her staples like her Mattetrance lipsticks are unbeatable

I really like the look of the blitz astral shades, but they are often put into palettes with shades I already have or dont want (gold). I think I would probably buy them if they were singles or you could a palette of like 4 but choose your own shades. I've always wanted her palettes but could never justify spending that much money when I basically only wanted 4 or less of the shades.

I have three of her palettes and every time there were issues. My first came with two shades missing. They demanded I send it back to get it replaced using my own money (I’m not from the US). Second one took forever to get here. Third one is defected, 2 shades are too dry and don’t even get picked up with a wet finger, complete hard pan. The customer support was super passive aggressive, saying stuff like: “Well, as a sign of courtesy we can replace your product”. What courtesy? The product doesn’t work. Especially both times I got defected palettes there were the blitz astral shades that were missing or damaged. After the third case I stopped buying from this brand.

Thank you for always providing us with a view of your bookshelf - for some reason it’s always such a calming and cozy thing to see

What I see from ppl that own Path McGrath is that they don't remember they have it. Everyone that I watch says the same thing, they only remember they own it when they do a declutter video.

Love this video, so well done! When I heard she not only did the pinky mauve color scheme AGAIN && didn’t put in the blitz astral shades I was mind blown. Always find it beyond bizarre when there’s soOo much of the same critique from an audience && the brand owner completely doesn’t listen. Even the variety in the initial quads was great&varied. It’s very hourglass w/ yeeeears of criticism for not doing a larger shade range or a range at all on their palettes. So many color palettes she hasn’t done in the motherships & Natasha does far more variety in her midi’s & the formulas are consistent if not constantly elevating & she’s adding more formulas. I’d never buy her full price. Goes on sale all the time & immediately after release.

I have like 8/12 motherships. I love them so much. They got me into eyeshadow. I love so many of her products. The RU-vidrs that I follow that were once big fans are also sick of pats shit. I didn’t buy the new mothership either I’m not paying over $200AUD for no blitz astral shades. Her brand has lost its spark. It’s sad. I am still planning on buying the holiday quints when they go on sale. I don’t mind waiting. There’s no way I’m paying full price for anything Pat

I actually quite enjoy this brand. I have two of their eyeshadow palettes and they’re obvi really good. But they’re not cruelty-free according to Cruelty free kitty😩 so i‘m not gonna buy from them anymore

I still use my Pat McGrath products all the time, the palettes are some of my favourites & the concealer & foundation are some of my favourites. Like they always looks good on my skin for some reason

I’ve been lucky enough to buy a few things from Pat McGrath ( always very discounted) and in my opinion for such a luxury and high end brand it’s quite hit or miss. That being said the blushes are gorgeous like you say but my experience of her eyeshadows haven’t been consistent, the motherships are worth it if it’s a colour story you’re willing to invest in and it’s on sale or in a deal. The satin allure lipsticks are one of my favourite formulas such a shame they go off quickly!

Completely agree about the Blitz Astral shades. To me they were the one thing that made them remotely worth it. Such a shame they didn’t lean into that more.

I LOVE the concealer its the best. The blushers are amazing for mature skin. You can always get it on sale. While your young you can basically use anything. Pat though makes your makeup look classy. I will get the bronzer next. The blush, you get alot of product compared to other brands..The powder in the compact, BIG fan. I LOVE her products pure class. 😘😘😘😘

Let’s also not forget that she has sale that lower the prices at 50%. I mean happy with that but why would anyone buy a Mothership at full price?

To me, super high end makeup is lowkey scammy/gimmicky. Theres so many lower cost options that work just as well. Ive never been a fan of monetary exclusivity for things that are mass produced like makeup. I dunno, it just enforces the "you're not ugly, youre poor" thing.

Why was I just focusing on figuring out all of the books behind you? Also the concealer was really a trust the process moment 😂

I think more people rather buy a dupes of luxury items because of the increasingly good quality of affordable makeup from brands like elf.

Love the 'rise and fall' videos! Also You're rocking the braids queen 👑✨

Glad to see more makeup content,I've missed it.

The thing that has turned me off of Pat’s motherships is that the price went up and the quality of the 4 “special” shades has gone down significantly.

The fall for me came when she banged out release after release to inflate the value so one of the giants like Estee Lauder would buy her out. Nothing special about the brand for me, only kept MS1 as it's cute, but now there's better quality IMHO

I remember when the brand started with drops of different products every few months or so. The dark star kit sticks out in my memory clearly. That was what i was hoping for with the brand. Not a bunch of repetitive pallettes and collabs.

What is also important to note is that since the Mothership X there are no baked shades in them anymore. She cut costs on one of the most coveted things in her palettes.

Yeah when she went after Rosie Huntington whiteley for using the word divine I was like, who tf do you think you are, ur on my blacklist now 😂😂

I want to love Pat McGrath so badly but cant get it in Australia... Only within the past year at Sephora opened in my state and Pat McGrath was there and i was so excited! Then when i was going to commit and buy the foundation and one of their eyeshadow palettes, it wasn't in store anymore??? and now its moved to online at Sephora and i really want to try and find my shade in store cause its so impossible to shade match on a screen.

I'm SO glad I'm not the only one that feels this way.

This video is wonderful :) a very respectful conversation about a brand you obviously love and want the best for.

i missed the makeup content so much!!

Her products have historically been great but she definitely fell into the trap of fast-fashionizing her brand with new releases that aren’t really meant to fill a gap in her product line and are just there so that there’s something “new“. Her product lineup is pretty fleshed out now, I wish she’d keep it pretty static and let the quality of everything speak for itself.

I bought the ritualistic rose quad of 4 blitz shades because I wanted to try the formula without buying the normal shades lol and my first thought was wow these feel like sand haha, I was so disappointed and thought they looked so dull on the eyes compared to my odens eye and huda shimmers.. never again will I spend 60 dollars on a quad

I'm not into luxury makeup and I never will be but I was always curious why people were so crazy about those special shades. We dont have Sephora in Croatia but I was in Munchen recently and I could swatch her products. When I swatched those shades I was so puzzled. I get more payoff with my Beauty Bay shimmers and indie brands were doing better shimmers since forever.

Actually the first 3 motherships were released at the same time! That’s why the numbers are off :)

I tried PMG twice, and was twice disappointed. I got a mini eyeshadow quint (Eye Ecstasy in Sublime, the more neutral of the two) and a mini lip set - lip balm, mini mat lipstick and a mini lip pencil (I only have the pencil, and the color is Suburbia). The palette was cheap plastic and was super hard to open and close, so I destroyed the packaging with the intention to add the shades to my singles collection. The pans are not magnetic (non-magnetic pans are cheaper), so i ended up gluing them to one empty palette. I never use them. The goldish browns and pink-red are not better than similar colours from Zoeva's Cocoa Blend, and I reach for the latter. The greenish gold was fine, but not better than the one in ND mini glam. Since I got ABH Rose Metal, I have not used this PMG shade even once (and even before that it was not often). The lip set was also a disappointment. The lipstick have a cold-greyish undertone and made me look sick. It was also pigmented in a very dry way and made my lips look like raisins. NOT a flattering look. The balm was goo-y and soft, and definitely too soft to stay in the bullet form in a mini format, and broke into a goo-y mess after two uses. The pencil is *fine*, although also very pink, so I use it only when I go for very pink look. Not better than NYX or Essence pencils.

I love how the pallets look but I’m sure I’ll nvr buy it too expensive

I have issues with the shade range where each shade is a different tone and if thats your tone but wrong undertone. Like I am closer to shade 4 but it’s the wrong undertone! Eyeshadows are good but I would use one or two on the 10pan and even on the 4 pans. Waste of money for me. I love thay they came out with the liquid eyeshadows. Love them. I wish her single eyedols would come back. Or like Lisa Eldrige you can buy the eyeshadows in single to create your own palette.

Not sure about other people but I'm definitely over it. I only have 3 quads and 2 Mothership palettes, got them prior to 2018. Loved the special shades back then, the mattes are ok. Until I discovered the indie brands eg. Clionadh, Terra Moons for multichromes, Sydney Grace for shimmers/mattes etc. There were mutiple times I was on the PMD site about to place an order, and ended up getting something from the indie brands instead. Have several of her lipsticks, they are ok but again, much prefer Chanel or Lisa Eldridge.

omg i remember when u were obsessed with the pat mcgrath palletes!!

I have one of the matte lipsticks and what a disappointment. It broke on the base after using it around 10 times while it never happened with other lipsticks I use way more. The component doesn't turn anymore either.

Always curious but never enough to purchase eyeshadows. But the lipstick I got snapped in half immediately upon use :(

Me watching this: wow that's so crazy the difference in product now! Angelic making fun of the only omg pallet I own: 😭 oh dang my feels

I’m so sad about the direction of her brand. I have all the motherships except the latest one. The latest one is so pink, so lackluster and there’s no baked shades. I was close to buying her recent holiday eyeshadow palettes now that she’s having a Black Friday sale, but I just realized that while I do have some of her cardboard palettes from previous releases that I enjoy, it’s just not the luxe experience I want when I’m using makeup. I’m hoping she turns it around and that the next mothership or quads are more exciting!

In my opinion, if a brand is at the point where they are just re-releasing shades/ products (especially if there's no improvement to the formula or packaging), they need to hang it up. There are so so SO many makeup brands out there so if a brand doesn't provide variety then they leave it up to the consumer. 🤷‍♀️

ive see pat McGrath at tj maxx & thats where I got my first PMG products...

The only thing that has stayed consistent in my life since 2018 is the fact I watch Angelika

I adore PML's lip glosses and LUXETRANCE lipsticks were my absolute favourite formulas ever!!!! Then they got discontinued 😢 i have the mothership palettes which are wonderful. I think alll brands have their rises anf plateaus

I bought my first PMG pallet a year ago on sale. I got the subversive pallet, and it felt so dry and chalky. I was so disappointed. I have way better for way less.

I think contour is back in stock as well! I was just on the Pat website yesterday

I bought motherships recently and they have changed they feel really cheap compared to the old packaging

I think regulations against certain ingredients might be to blame for the glitz astrals going away. They probably had something in it that's either unethical to produce or that could contribute to polluting waterways when it gets washed off. But that's just my best guess. I don't think they'd just stop doing them if they were such great sellers unless they had a big reason to

Oh shit I completely forgot about Boxycharm now that no influencers promote it anymore. Is that still a thing?

No. Pat McGrath is an icon. Some of us can’t afford to buy her pallets the minute they drop… some of us wait for her biggest sale of the year just to get one.

I saw them in Marshalls the last two times I was there

I totally understand how everyone feels. I love PML. I have most of her collection and all the motherships and that’s all I wear on my eyes. I love her products. I always look gorgeous when I apply them. I do believe her brand is going down but I will keep keep supporting the brand. I hope she finds her way back to what she use to be to stay afloat. All I know is if I don’t like something, I just don’t buy it and I wait for the next launch.

I’m the only one that has no interest in the pallets but the foundation, concealer and bronzer are great. It is a bit too expensive but I wait for those good sales.

*searching in panic for my lipsticks* 🫨

The base products are really good. Eyeshadow palettes are so repetitive.

… I genuinley forgot this brand even existed lmfao. The ghetto.

I only have the Mothership I and her gloss and I love both but I wouldn't go out of my way to buy any other things from her. I do not need pinky eyeshadows and Mothership I already gives me what I love and I want to use it up and enjoy it. I may be the only one who likes her satin shades as well, to me they are just so sophisticated, also, the mattes are beautiful. My least favorite is the first pale shade, that formula is not really smooth and I honestly think not all special shades are great. I think the gold and the blue (the more pigmented ones) are worse than the sheer ones. So, if I'm going to buy another palette from her to just get one or two mattes and maybe one, two or none sheer special shades... It is not worth it to me. In that case, I'll just buy a Bobbi Brown single baked eyeshadow.

I still love Pat McGrath Labs; I've been en her artistry way before she had a brand!

After using a handful of products and while I do LIKE them I don't LOVE them and quite frankly...the formula and ease of use doesn't justify the price of ANYTHING they make. It looks pretty and it feels expensive hence the price. Otherwise it's honestly (and I'll die on this hill) BH cosmetics circa 2018-2019 shadows, blushes, bronzer's , and highlighters are so on par at 1/12th the cost....can't recommend PML to anyone for that price.

I would love a comparison video of all the top luxe brands and the comments they receive… bc I’m still trying to see how TF/CT are innovative but PML is now ColourPop. The disrespect. I personally think ppl are jumping on the hate train/clearly biased…

I love Pat McGrath!! Her eyeshadows are wonderful. Lipsticks are fantastic. She is always sold out. Her foundation is not very good.

Just commenting for the algorithm ❤️

To me, all of her products look exactly the same.

I LOVE pat mcgrath, best foundation and concealers

I personally think PM is incredibly way overpriced I can get even better “ special shades” at a fraction of the price and how many times can you honestly buy pinky mauve colour schemes, which is exactly what her palettes are with the addition of the “ special shade “ normally being the only colour other than pink or mauve . I’ve tried her Foundation and it was only okay the Concealer is better than the Foundation, but I’m not paying PM prices for a Concealer not when I can get the exact same thing at again a fraction of the price. When PM first released her first palette I wasn’t really buying much makeup I still had my Daughters living at home they were teens and extra money I had went to them , after my girls moved out and started their own lives is when I really got into makeup ( my Husband had I were young when we had our kids and yes still together) I was 36 when my oldest moved out and 38 when my youngest moved out . I had more time for myself and money imagine that lol , so that’s when I really started buying more makeup in 2013 and PM wasn’t even around yet , I bought all the MoonDust Shadows that had just released and was hooked on that look but never could afford PM when CP came out with SS Formula I was all over those and at such an affordable price, even ordering online from Canada ( I’m Canadian) our cost is much higher than just the exchange rate but still affordable .

What's in a name? (That which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet.) Мухи это символ навязчивости и нечистот. Дизайн путтанеска от Версаче. Много феноксиэтанола в матовых оттенках. Это вызывает слезу. И все это divaine and celectial. Скромнее надо быть. Мы такое не любим.

I have a feeling that the sales have gone down for Pat and that is why they now have 25-35% sales all the time. Also I have a feeling that Pat has succeeded so well in make up and financially, that she might not be THAT passionate about it anymore and it shows

i've really never even been tempted by any of her products because they are so so expensive and with such great quality drugstore brands that are so much more affordable it just seems like a waste of money

Her brand seems uninspired now. I would never invest in this brand just not worth it would rather have lamer.

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You always say that you only use cruelty free products but you consistently use Pat McGrath :/

Mayo/White women are the only ones that are over with this brand