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I will like to ask you, which is your opinion about the NERIS type explorer? I mean, it's almost like a mix between "the big five" and "the MBTI" so I don't really know if I can trust it. Thanks.
Personally tests also always bothered me because it’s about what you think of yourself. I may think I’m extroverted and cool headed but others may say I’m the opposite. How do you put this into consideration?
People are different in certain situations. Some traits are more useful in different situations. Answer the test based on whatever you are the majority of the time/if you had a choice of who to be with no negative external consequences, which would you pick/be. Idk
Dawn, I can relate to what you're saying. This issue of self awareness, others' opinions, etc. gets so complicated its hard to know what to say is most important. This very issue of WHO I SAY I AM, vs WHO OTHERS SAY I AM has been a burning question. Personality theory has been a passionate hobby of mine for 30 years (since age 16). not even kidding. I've recently had an earthquake, however... I knew about the Big 5, but could not see its value over the ever-popular MBTI. After my earthquake, and being forced to reconsider EVERYthing in life, I now see the flaws (that experts like the MedSchool Insider) have been stating. I do love the Big 5, as it really does show you HOW you are, compared to 99 other people. It is the first of its kind to use computational power with which to verify. You answer 100 questions and the computer tabulates your numbers in each of the 5 most common traits. With the MBTI, it was like a special award to receive the result of INFJ. It didn't cause any urge for change. After the epiphany of my Big 5 results, it has been difficult to accept the reality of me. But, with work, continual care, significant changes can come about. Learning where you are within the Big 5 is an excellent starting point to gain insight, self awareness and confidence. I recommend it. I like Jordan Peterson's site: www.understandmyself.com (And I like just about everything else about JP's classes, books and lectures!) Peace!
Everyone has their own interpretation of things. They see you a split sec or few minutes and make subjective opinions about you to themselves. Personality can swing drastically so dont take it as set in stone.
It is always very, very interesting to let a person do a personality test themselves, and then let their mother, their spouse or their best friend answer the same questions for them. The truth usually lies somewhere inbetween these two results, especially when spouses are questioned they tend to actually be very close to a persons actual personality. Mothers and friends, usually a bit off.
I just have doubts about personality tests in general. Traumatic events, or sometimes just powerful emotional events, can change a persons attitude and behavior, sometimes drastically.
suckitup babe of course they aren’t perfect, but the Meyers Briggs rest is meant to show you what traits you more likely use compared to what others use. What traits you use reflect your personality and how you think. That’s not to say that these traits that you prefer to use cannot be changed, but rather what traits you use in that moment. Childhood trauma and the environment you grow up in in general I think all play a role in what traits you will use thus giving you a certain viewpoint of the world, creating your personality and who you are. Not everyone is either one trait or the other(I.e extrovert or introvert) but rather somewhere in the middle, some are closer to extrovert and some are closer to introvert, but yes a traumatic event could occur and make an extrovert Become more introverted depending on how they perceived the event. Also some people change over time as they grow. Sorry for the rant I just wanted to help you understand the correlation that I see between your personality and events that change how you view the world like you said. Hope I helped!
Attitude and behaviour can change a lot for all sorts of reasons, but cognitive functions not, that's why Carl Jung's model is still better than the big 5 for example. The big 5 relies only on behaviour which is the worst thing you could do to classify personalities. I can be smiling and thinking that I hate that person but just pretend i don't to avoid conflict. What tells more about me? The fact that I'm smiling? The fact that I hate my boss? Or the fact that I'd rather avoid conflict by smiling to someone I hate? Exactly, the third one. That's why Jung's cognitive function model is far better than the big five, that would only take into consideration that you smile to your boss. Maybe even that you hate your boss, but that's it.
@@Ignasimp No that's really not an issue for Big 5 to Big 10. If you tell the truth it's going to be accurate but if your boss will read it you will lie. There are companies out there, a lot actually, who are forbidden from using IQ tests so they fall back to Big 5. What do you mean behaviour changes? It really depends. Sometimes it absolutely doesn't, sometimes it changes drastically, other times it does just a bit and there's no way to predict that change beforehand. In fact, conscientiousness is still a very strong predictor so however good Jung might be (And I know nothing about his tests), if you do it before and after the change, results will also reflect that change. Behaviour doesn't change in a week. Or a month or a year, or even a decade depending on how relevant it is to you.
This is inaccurate. MBTI is not purely binary. It’s about preferences or tendencies. It doesn’t say you are one or the other. The types are based on the cognitive functions that Carl Jung noticed. They’re sometimes referred to as the Jungian Cognitive Functions. MBTI is also meant primarily for job and career environments. MBTI terms should not be taken with face value. Intuition is not about gut feeling. Feeling is not about emotions. And I doubt extroversion and introversion are about where a person draws there energy, since that’s not the definition that Carl Jung used.
@@hareotona The definition Carl Jung used, I'm not sure. I don't have a good understanding of it yet. All I know is that Carl Jung's definitions has something to do with objects in relation to the subject (as in the observer). Basically, what the person tends to focus on more. But he did also mention once that type is not static, it can change. But I'm not sure exactly what he was referring to when he said that. His views seem to be primarily philosophical and based on his personal interactions and observations.
@@hareotona in "personality types" he best describes it by "typing" cultures, not people. While the ancient Greeks were "introverted" and dealt primarily with inner problems, the Romans were extraverted and built and conquered. Or how you can compare Europe to the USA: thinkers vs engineers. In individuals it's the dichotomy between subjective and objective, between thought and sense. MBTI diverged a bit from theese definitions, but i don't know exactly how. Jung's definitions are however still applicable when dealing with cognitive functions (introverted thinking vs extraverted thinking for example)
Okay so, the MBTI tests actually mostly look at both that Mother-Daughter combination as well as Keirsey, both are very behavioral oriented, not cognitive function oriented. Most material on the Cognitive Functions isn't headed by or related to those, at least too much, instead, they rely on John Beebe's interpretation of Carl Jung's work, and sometimes additionally Dario Nardi's contribution in the neurology side of it. They are two separate things, but because they both pertain to Carl Jung's work, people accidentally group them together as both being "MBTI". I have not personally found a good test for the Cognitive functions, even if I do prescribe to the effectiveness of their uses as purely cognitive functions and do not directly affect behavior(even if they can do so indirectly).
@@hareotona Keirsey and MBTI define it as what most people think of. Carl Jung, John Beebe, and Dario Nardi all define it not how social you are but the "direction" the cognitive functions are going, also in their case all people use all functions, it's just a matter of preferences. Here a single example using one of the functions, Sensing as a function gathers the physical and concrete stimuli of one's environment or in oneself. Introverted Sensing gathers information about one's body and long term memory, while Extroverted Sensing gathers external physical stimuli, so it uses the physical sensory organs to pick up how something smells, feels, hears, and etc. So, long story short, it depends on the specific Cognitive Function if you look at it from their perspective.
Gran vídeo. Pero permítanme hablar de algo importante, veo que muchos jóvenes y viejos cometen errores que creo que no deberían ser. Creo que todos, jóvenes o mayores, deberían tener un plan de inversión que aumente su rendimiento financiero de tres cifras a seis cifras. La inversión puede ser tu plan de jubilación o plan de futuro, según lo que quieras, pero lo más importante es que tengas una inversión que sea rentable.
@@tristanamein8050 Al invertir en el mercado de criptomonedas forex, necesita un profesional que lo guíe para evitar pérdidas porque las señales no son realmente fáciles de leer, por eso necesita invertir con un experto para obtener mejores ganancias.
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People get different test results on the MBTI because a lot of people aren’t self-aware. You have to accurately know yourself to get the correct personality type results. However, even then some people reject the validity of their personality type because they see it as “a label.” MBTI is just a framework to understand and develop oneself. Unfortunately, your explanation of it was incomplete. The real basis of MBTI are the 8 cognitive functions, which were researched and created by a psychologist named Carl Jung. The letters mean little if you don’t understand the functions. That’s where most miss the mark with MBTI. It’s a lot more nuanced and complex than it seems. IMO it’s the most spot-on and helpful of all personality type tests.
Umm... doesn't explaing why questions are poorly worded, why some questions are too farfetched and there are some answers missing.. i would had liked to have "depends on situation" or "this isn't the only possible answer" on some of them. Wasn't there a study where the result was that in 5 weeks more than 80% of people that redid the test got different result? Also the final results are too binary. It gives a description about one part of you. You are not that thing it says you are.. that thing is one attribute, one description of what you are.. not the whole catalog of multiple traits you are mix of. Even if people "knew how to answer" and were "self-aware", even then the test would lack to give complex enought results to be accurate and thats partly because either questions aren't well put or there are too few picks to answer from. The test sucks. Get over it.
@@samamies88 But why i always got estj then? Since the first time i took the test, it always been estj. Even when i'm in a different mood. I took the test every 6 months tho, as what the web told me.
@@samamies88 depends on the language and which site you use. Tbh I never had a different result, but I guess it does actually depend on how well YOU know yourself. anyways bye :)
Yeahh when I did those normal personality type tests I always got infp or intp but I just never thought I fit into those personality types (I kinda believed I was an infp cause it did suit me a bit but some traits were off) I did thr cognitive functions test and then I realised I'm actually an enfp and I looked into it, I can say I'm definately very much an enfp💀
I think that your take on MBTI is the surface of it, not the depth that it can go into. Most people who take it would probably not go into depth, but when you start to properly look into it, you see that nothing is actually absolute. It's all about preferences. A thinker would prefer to use logic to decide things. That doesn't mean that they are only practical, it just means that they would weigh up pros and cons and decide from there. Feelers prefer to have a more emotional take in the sense that they would make decisions based on either how it would make others feel or how it would make them feel. Both are emotionally and logically aware, it's just that one has more influence in decisions than the other. Another thing is that personality tests are bad, all of them are, so the best way to figure out your type in MBTI is probably to research the functions and see which you identify with most. Then taking the functions you think you use most, figuring out your type, which is kinda useless if you know the functions, but like you said, easier to make sense of and easier to communicate. I don't think that there is any personality test that can possibly be scientifically correct, since there would have to be 7.5 billion types for every single person in the world, however things like MBTI and Big 5 or whatever, all help you to think about it. It gives you a starting point and a nice group to identify with when you get lost and allows you to understand yourself better, even if the understanding isn't completely right. It lets you build off of something that feels right since someone else told it to you, which can often make it seem more reliable. It's not about the facts and data and reliability when it comes to personality. No test can categorise people with perfection. It's about allowing people to have something to build off of, so they can begin improving and understanding themselves better, on their own.
@@meilei8716 Yeah sure, like a "Hamburger Jung" 🤣🤣🤣 but I also suspect that somebody just forgot that adjectives aren't capitalised and it means "young" or it could also just be a German surname that shouldn't be translated because it doesn't make sense to translate it, who knows 🤪
umm sir you forgot about the cognitive functions which is more important than the four leter type in MBTI. For example INTP has Ti Ne Si Fe-Te Ni Se Fi although the four letter type says its more thinking than feeling but the cognitive functions says it has feelings but it's inferior to thinking. It means that an INTP will decide about what is right before thinking about feelings i subbed btw
PREACH. People refer to MBTI as “fake” without redoing their research on cognitive functions and Jungian Theory. It’s a pseudoscience, I grudgingly agree, but it isn’t far from neuroscience imo.
@@casuallydone468 You mean 16 personalities? They just give you percentages based off of the way you answered the test. It should probably be taken as a "margin of error", rather than a scale like big 5. I do agree that they don't accurately explain what the different labels actually mean. They claim that Introvert and extrovert mean being introverted or extroverted, when they don't.
this guy knows nothing about mbti. did he even do research????? I'm kind of offended by how he completely ignored the existence of cognitive functions.
He probably does not have much knowledge in psychological research with regards to psychological assessment/testing. Right at the start of the video, he said he has MD in plastic surgery? I just wonder what his bachelors degree is?
Hirane Kazuhara speaking as a med student, when studying medicine, you don’t do anything called a “bachelors”. It’s a 5-7 year MD aka Medical Degree. It’s what you take to become certified as a doctor. He seems to have taken up or specialized in Plastic surgery after receiving his MD.
@@Axashx I know that. And I already knew his specialization. What I'm trying to find is his pre-graduate achievement. Before you study medicine(which is post-graduate), you must have a bachelors degree first. A medical course like medical technology, physical therapy, radtech, OT, etc. You can't go through doctorate without having a bachelors degree first.
@@Axashx Not unless your country does not require one, which is, too bad. :( Because where I came from, you will take college for 10 years before becoming a doctor. 4 years for bachelors degree, then the remaining 6 years includes the preparations and the doctorate for becoming a MD.
Based solely on Jung's studies, MBTI's only real use is to determine one's cognitive functions, not personality itself, and also, most of the tests are based on Burnham effect. It doesn't mean that you can't understand what Jung had to say about cognitive functions, as they are only a mean to understand what sorts of information you naturally prioritize.
i don't think it's based on the burnham effect, i got typed for the first time and it didn't feel quite right, watched some videos and learned more about the personalities close to what i got and i knew i was a different one from the one i got from the test, it fits me so perfectly it's uncanny. if it was the burnham effect i would have just accepted the first test result, which i didn't.
I like MBTI, but not the classic one by Myers and Briggs, though I call it so because it is easily recognisable. Original MBTI has the four letter typing, but I prefer typing based on cognitive functions, that ultimately do form a four letter type, but that is more of a group name. INFP for example is FiNeSiTe-FeNiSeTi. And so on. And it works great coupled with enneagram. But I agree that going by the mbti you talked about here, it is better to give it up altogether.
I like the mbti theory a lot, even though I know it’s not very reliable for some people. A few years back it personally helped me understand myself better and I feel now a more confident person (I’m not saying that I think my personality is only based on my mbti type, it was reading other people and their situations and how they seemed to have a similar personality than me). I do it for the lols with friends and family even though I used to have an obsession for it lowkey hahah it’s still useful sometimes 🤠
As a psych major who graduated less than 2 years ago, I remember looking at the data for MBTI and even our professor said (while it's a fun personality test) its not accurate. While I'm also aware of the Jungian cognitive theory (ex: ti v te), I'd still take this assessment with a grain of salt. The big 5 is probably the personality assessment with the most validity if we are looking into personality theory.
But big five can be lacking to understand myself although using it I realize I need to work on my conscientiousness level. MBTI helps me understand myself better and embrace my personality
"You are not pure introvert.." Ahahaha, you certainly do not know me!.. Nobody does... Cause I am that pure introvert from the edge of normal distribution
The mbti does not hold up today. But if you actually go through Jung's works, you'll find that the mbti is just an oversimplified version. On a practicality level, people using mbti/Jung's analytical psychology still get realisable results to great effect when applied for business practices and/or personal enrichment. The big 5/hexaco holds up on reliability and validity because it was designed to pass those exact tests by being the safest and most generic test of the lot.
I love how he says that MBTI, which has benefited millions of people, is not credible because it was made by two housewives and is not scientifically backed.. and then he promotes a new assessment that has "huuundreds" of comments on it, and says, "that's good enough for me." 🤔 ~INFJ
I am an ENTJ and knowing that helped me write my personal statements for college and overall helped me develop my self confidence. Its so freaky how i literally just took this test again 10 minutes ago and now i see you uploading this
u got it wrong dude.. - The 4 MBTI letters are just a code to get the hierarchy of the 8 functions Jung discovered. - You can't judge the whole theory by the test which is just a poor mean invented to know ur type when there is no type expert around and u know nothing about the theory.. the test is basically is making it's best guess to know ur type. - Introversion means ur most used Function is subjective or focuses on the inside world and vice versa. - The theory is mainly used for personal development , when u know ur weak functions u should work on developing them.. and as u develop ur personality changes but type(the hierarchy of the functions) never change. there is enough evidence to support the theory.. look up Dario Nardi or Objective personality. - The theory is much more than the type descriptions u read. - It's a great predictor of various things ..look the statistics on types .. for example the ENTJs in average earn 100% more than INFPs. with some practice with the theory u will get how obvious it's .. I can type people after a 5 m talk and I am right most of the time.
I use mbti to characterize other people or get an idea of who they could be. Ive been able to guess things about others because they have traits based on their type. Its quite useful. I find it best to combine multiple tests to get the most accurate idea of who yourself and others are. I ask a couple of general questions and it usually leads me to accurate conclusions
@@milly6018 there is not an accurate conclusion, you can never be too sure. It's been two years since my comment and tbh i dnt really use mbti that much since its pretty flawed even tho it was somewhat helpful in recognizing patterns of behaviour in people in general. There were no specific answers or questions either, but notice how they interact with the world, ideas, organization, and emotions and how to differentiate between their real personality and the behaviors they might have due to trauma responses or personality disorders. Just seek for patterns :p
Is there a video criticizing the MBTI and acknowledging the existence of function stack? Out of all the videos I've seen so far, NONE of them even mentions cognitive functions. It's as if none of these critics researched their subject...
Also Perceiving and Judging doesn't always mean Spontaneity and being Plan oriented. A person is not a Judger because He is a Planner. No,there's a reason for that. People who really studied cognitive functions would know. :)
Never having met you to observe your body language and based on your speech patterns and thought style alone, I'd guess you land somewhere around an INTJ or INTP; maybe INFJ, but that seems less likely. I land somewhere between INFP and INFJ, testing almost 50/50 on the FJ line every time and the end result flip flops. Myers Briggs is more of a behaviorial test than a personality test. It's incredibly accurate as a behavioral assessment, and does at least say something about our personality, since behavior is HEAVILY influenced by personality. Personality tests are designed to give you a better understanding of yourself and others, not to believe you are limited in who you can be or what you can become and achieve. It's just a framework, not the entire program.
Personally, I think that behavior is outward, and therefore not reliable at all since it would hinge on several factors and change drastically even over the course of a single individuals life. :/ Although there are trends... Maybe. But if it were reliable, it would be because it indicates an underlying reason.
Something tells me it might have to do something with the extreme rarity of the ENTP type among a population. 3%. As an ENTP, I always found the description to be suiting for the most part because it's so specific. But some of the other more "popular" types seem to be described to such an artificial extent that one came subscribe to most/or any of the qualities they have. It might be more of an issue of specificity on our part that it "works". But hey I could be wrong there too, haven't tested it.
Thanks for your video but without any mention of the functions, you have completely missed the theory behind MBTI and all that it has to offer. I understand where you're coming from. A test has to have a certain level of reliability to be valid. Maybe the theory can stay but the test itself sucks. Why throw out both? If people themselves were to diagnose depression or personality disorders based on a questionnaire, I am sure they would have different results every 5 weeks as well. I studied mental health and personality psychology and likewise dismissed Meyers Briggs for similar reasons back in college ... but now in my middle age I've come to learn about the 8 functions behind the four letters and have gained so much insight. It's a shame it's so easily dismissed because there's so much more there that I have found useful with my relationships and understanding people. Still, I hear you. It is not a hard and fast science like people make it out to be. Additionally, I would like to point out that there is a lot of room for growth within each Meyers Briggs personality. Too much to write... I think your mind is well made up anyways.
I’ve gotten INFP every time I’ve ever tested. Sure the percentages change, obviously my outlook on somethings will change from strongly agree to just agree... but I’ve always gotten INFP.
The MBTI test is incredibly innacurate in my opinion, however I would like to clarify that there is more to it than the test. The test doesn't tell you about cognitive functions, function stacks, shadow functions and so forth. Therefore we have the professionals/experts who can better explain the logic behind the MBTI. I don't recommend the actual test to anyone, but I do recommend that people look into the components tied to it. And of course I don't think it is the full answer to our personality, but I think it is accurate to what it is trying to achieve. If you looked into the MBTI, you would come to learn that ENTPs are actually more introverted than extroverted, despite being an extroverted type. And even then, the functions are still set on an, albeit undetermined, scale. In the world of the MBTI, that scale is just "development". I am an INFJ. I have been raised around a lot of feeling types, therefore my auxilary Fe has been well-developed over the other functions. I didn't start developing my Ti until very recently. I sound a little defensive about this topic, but its only because I feel that it was way too simplified in this video. You can have perspectives about these things, but please don't discredit.
My personality is 0 becouse I just adjust my reactions according to the situation to get the best result... But I guess humans have problems with their emotions *Smiles in Alien*
MBTI is a copy written test and is very flawed. I’ve found the broader (yet formally disorganized) field of Type Psychology quite interesting and seemingly very accurate... at least some of it. For example there is a hypothesis within type psychology that each subject actually phases between four different personality types depending on energy level and external stimuli. So an INTP ( which would most likely be my type if any of this is valid.) might switch between ENTJ, ESFJ, or ISFP depending on which cognitive functions are stimulated. It should be easy enough to test for the way these cognative functions are said to interact through brain scanning methods but I have yet to see verifiable evidence of its validity which is why I’m quite skeptical of it.... if anyone has any information I would love to hear about it.
Christina Bowman I did a bit, I’m still very skeptical type psychology hasn’t become very mainstream as far as hard science is concerned... is it a technology setback or something else?
Some major corrections regarding your portrayal of MBTI: 1) As in the case with any accurate personality testing system, people have a bad habit of misrepresenting their circumstances, which affects the results of the test. While you did point this out in your video, you neglected to point out that the simple solution to this is to have a trained therapist or friend/family member with deep knowledge of the subject-individual take the test in place of the subject-individual him/herself. As an example, When I first took my MBTI test, I received the INTP type. I would periodically retake the test on different websites with different questions and explanations, and the results were always the same. Right up until my life circumstances changed significantly, at which point I was getting the ENTP type as my results from that point forward. I'm a pretty outgoing guy. I'd never really been a closet case growing up, yet a series of bad relationships and an absolute garbage living environment (Stockton, CA, for the curious) had caused me to become extremely introverted and shut off. It hadn't occurred to me how those circumstances had impacted the answers I'd fed into the MBTI test until after I'd moved back to my childhood small town-home in the mountains and begun to open up again, which was of course when my results began registering as ENTP. Another example is my mother, who is an extremely neurotic woman and yet a doctor of psychology. Each time she'd taken the MBTI test, she'd gotten a different result; three different results, if I recall, all at various times in various moods. But I know her extremely well because I watched her actions as I grew up and learned to see through the various facades and moods she shuffles through in her personal life (Thankfully, none of that seems to carry over into her work; she's done very well learning to compartmentalize) so whenever I retake the test in her stead, the results are consistent. The point I'm driving at with this particular correction is that while the results can absolutely be skewed when self-testing, the test is essentially flawless when in the hands of someone who knows what questions to ask and how to spot B.S. INTP was never a particularly well-fitting designation, but ENTP? Hoo, boy! Spot-on, I'm telling you. 2) You mentioned that the thinking and feeling factors in the MBTI are measured as being axiomatically opposite, but I'm not sure you recognize just yet that the issue is that just because someone *can* empathize with another individual doesn't mean they're inclined to do so. That's the core point attributed to that division. MBTI measures not just how you approach and process information, but also what sort of information you're even interested in examining in the first place. It's not enough to have the capacity to empathize; you have to be predisposed to doing so to qualify for the "Feeling" designation. Some people are geared more toward hard facts (Thinking) while others are predisposed to approaching information from the perspective of how things make them feel. As an ENTP, I'm perfectly capable of empathizing, but there are facts and there are fallacies, and I'm less concerned with how facts make people feel than whether or not those facts are, in fact, facts at all. Doesn't make me heartless, my priorities simply differ from that of a Feeler's. 3) Feeding somewhat from that last correction, you made the point that MBTI uses a binary system. This is correct, but you neglected to mention that the more rigorous implementations of MBTI actually do calculate the percentages of each division. For example, an individual may have 62% Introversion, but that means they are also 42% Extroverted. Suddenly, the dichotomy isn't a matter of are you this or that, it becomes a comparative measure of dualisms. To go back to my earlier Thinking/Feeling example, people who are interested in facts and data want a measurable and accurate result, whereas Feelers are less interested in whether something is correct and more interested in how it makes them feel on a subjective, emotional level. But even if a subject is 78% Thinking, that means that s/he is still 22% inclined to being concerned more with how the data they're interested in makes them feel. These dichotomies may be split down the middle, but in practice, they're measured to understand the nuance of a given personality. That's not a bug, it's a feature. (He says unironically.) 4) I hear the term "tribe" often used in an almost pejorative fashion a lot of the time. I think it's extremely important to recognize the utility and importance of tribes, as well as to understand that one can belong to multiple "tribes" in the modern sense of the word. For example, I play D&D on the weekends but I also play Destiny 2 a lot. Generally speaking, most Destiny 2 players aren't interested in pen-and-paper RPGs. (There's no empirical data to back that up that I'm aware of, but given the compulsive and action-oriented nature of Destiny 2 and the slow pace and more cerebral nature of D&D, it's a safe enough hypothesis to make.) In that way, I am a member of two entirely different tribes. The same would be true if I practiced both MMA and ballet, or if I watched Friends and also Seinfeld growing up. (Come to think of it, I actually did watch both those shows growing up, though Friends was still my preference.) Anthropologically, tribes were an insular community that kept "outsiders" at arm's distance, true, but because those who could not integrate with the tribe were isolated from the tribe, it provided a wealth of supportive relationships between people who had many interests in common. We tend to demonize tribalism as being exclusionary, but historically tribes would often interact and exchange goods, services, and information, so the fallacy of isolationism is just laughable. Even in the modern sense, our "tribes" still generally interact, yet just as with historical tribes, there are some groups that mix about as well as bleach and ammonia. (Take our present political division as an example.) It's not that these tribes cannot coexist, but rather that the leadership, or influencers if you prefer, of these tribes are often hostile to one another. The others in the tribes may have no particular malice toward one another, but humans are highly socially reactive creatures, which is why strong leadership needs to be coupled with equally strong ideals. In any event, tribes are not inherently negative. They provide a sense of similitude which enables people to feel accepted while also fostering trust within the tribe. Whether or not people of other tribes clash with those people is entirely dependent upon whether or not the values of both tribes are incompatible. 5) Finally, I've had it about up to here (you can't see it, but I'm holding my handly flatly parallel to my scalp) with people obsessing over the MBTI's creators' lack of "professional" credentialling. A degree or license doesn't provide you with the knowledge and skills to create new systems of thought, they're merely institutional recognition of those skills and knowledge. Even some trashed-up hobo living under a bridge can have perfectly valid ideas about things, and pretending like they can't only serves to make the individuals scoffing at the uncredentialled seem like snooty elitists. Katherine and Isabel were no less capable of learning new information and utilizing it to it's fullest advantage than any two-bit schmuck with a psychology degree. Colleges and universities don't make people smart, they just provide them with information, and much of the time (particularly in our technologically sophisticated culture) any information you can attain as an active student in an institution can be attained through alternative means. I've never had a day of "higher" education in my life, but unlike most people, I have an innate hunger for understanding. I like to think I've done pretty well expanding my knowledge and developing my critical reasoning skills, all things considered. So let's not pretend like these two womens' level of institutional recognition has anything to do with their ability to learn and develop ideas of their own. It so bizarre to me that anyone who conflate institutional education with intelligence or knowledge... POST SCRIPT) I realize your professors have their perspectives, and unfortunately, you've been placed in a situation where you've naturally adopted some of those opinions by dint of your proximity to and dependence upon, those selfsame teachers' beliefs. That's the inherent danger of institutionalized education, unfortunately, that you will adopt many of the same attitudes and beliefs of your teachers. This is true in NON-institutionalized educational systems as well, certainly, but the uniformity of beliefs and attitudes in such situations is significantly less pronounced in more independent systems since they're decentralized and teach a much more diverse collection of individuals. But in spite of your educators, I would urge you to approach more subjects with more caution and less presumption. Just because you think you know a thing doesn't mean you know anything about the thing that is remotely accurate. Universities can teach fallacies just as easily as they can teach truths, that's extremely important to remember.
@@DreamixVA Re-read my post as it had been three years. The typos and mathematical errors hurt my soul (My mind had clearly become more inwardly-focused on my thoughts and less aware of what I was typing by about mid-point through the post. I still could have proof-read the thing before submitting it but I suppose I was just happy I was done typing on my phone screen. 🤣 ) but otherwise I'm still glad I took the time to offer my two cents. And I'm glad someone found the information helpful. 🙂
@SilverSentinel LOL 😆 That literally happens to me all the time! Your post was long, but I still followed your thoughts and explanation with ease! Thank you for taking the time to thoroughly explain a new opinion that was quite different and well thought out, as it was quite fun to explore your mind a little bit! I hope you have a really nice day!!
INFJ here... MBTI has been a passionate hobby of mine for 30 years (since age 16). not even kidding. I've recently had an earthquake, however... I knew about the Big 5, but could not see its value over the ever-popular MBTI. After my earthquake, and being forced to reconsider EVERYthing in life, I now see the flaws (that experts like the MedSchool Insider) have been stating. I do love the Big 5, as it really does show you HOW you are, compared to 99 other people. It is the first of its kind to use computational power with which to verify. You answer 100 questions and the computer tabulates your numbers in each of the 5 most common traits. With the MBTI, it was like a special award to receive the result of INFJ. It didn't cause any urge for change. After the epiphany of my Big 5 results, it has been difficult to accept the reality of me. But, with work, continual care, changes can come about.
My guess is that you are an INTJ. BTW, I love this video. I've long since known that MBTI is fairly inaccurate but you explained it very clearly why. Kudos. Oh, also I'm an ENFP.
Letter variations are usually due to external factors and test at that time. It's important to try to take them and consider what your natural tendencies are, what you prefer in general. As you become more self aware of the tendencies being natural or nurtured, you'll hit it every time consistently
I use to be addicted to personality tests, by that I mean I put my own answers then answer the opposite of my answers to see if it actually means anything. Overall I concluded that they’re mostly BS
Ive taken multiple different tests...all say im INFJ..tbh it actually makes a lot of sense to me and does peice alot of a missing puzzle bits in my life together...
I’m not sure what kind of psychology it is but all the questions are saying you’re “always” this or “always” that. I think confident and outgoing people are more likely going to answer that they’re “always” something, whereas introverted people may not answer that as much because they may not be as confident to answer that they always do that thing.
Painful misunderstanding of modern mbti, with the use of cognitive functions, anyone who even has relatively entertained mbti knows that these traits aren't necessarily indicative of a person being exclusively one direction or the other. And that the letters are not just binary but instead affect the way your cognitive stack functions. for example INTJs are more intuitive than ENTJs, INFPs are more feelers than INFJs. These types are relative to oneanother and therefore not binary, instead they are matched into 4 preferences per type, with 4 of 8 functions being conscious while the other 4 are unconcious. Which is why any letter in any type can mean a completely different thing. For example the F in an INFP could mean Self-Righteous, while the F in ENFJ could mean people pleasing. Which are inherently the exact opposite despite coming from the same letter. It's very annoying always watching people diss MBTI but at the same time having no understanding of the modern underlying framework under it, and not so much as even mentioning cognitive function.
Myers briggs isn't really about being an "introvert" or an "extrovert" at all. The much more important letters are the two in the middle. The first and last letters are just "adjectives" that describe those two middle letters. I know that it seems that it does work like how he described, but that's only on the surface level. This so-called scientist obviously didn't research the subject of his video. Even the 16 personalities website (which doesn't describe how the system actually works) puts the indicators on a scale, which this guy claims is binary. Also, trying to say that a system that is based off of observation of how someone acts, and extrapolate from that, is equivalent to systems that predict how people will act based off of random things about them (such as their birthdate) is just plain stupid.
mbti and carl's theory isn't bad, it's the tests thay are bad, cause you need more than some questions to tell you your type, it's better to ask a psychologue or someone that's good at typing ppl about your type
INTJ here. I think that result is spot on, but I never took it too seriously. Also wanna add that I took MBTI twice, about 6 months apart for 2 different classes and the results were the same for me.
I feel like personality traits are as simple as what you think of yourself, if you are assessing you, you will have a certain personality. If another person is assessing you, they might say you have a different personality. How can you prove that either one is incorrect? Maybe you know yourself more, but the other person still knows you or at least how you act around others. They probably know how you act around others more than you do, unless you’re an introvert and you think about that all the time. and humans naturally want to be social, so I feel like personality tests are more of a confidence test to see where you place yourself. PersonalityI think depends on two people (or you and yourself) and then assessing how they interact, not necessarily just one person.
He also says just another flat out false thing at 6:46 According to REAL myers-briggs, everyone who has T in their name prefers to use thinking over Feeling, not that they can't use feeling, they just tend to struggle at it because they're better at thinking. Also, they usually use a certain type of thinking & a certain type of feeling (This is what the I/E & P/J letters actually refer to.). If anyone who reads this is curious about how Myers-Briggs ACTUALLY works, I recommend looking up "Myers Briggs Functions" or "Myers Briggs Function Stacks", because this video paints as some sort of disfigured copycat of the Big 5, when it is a completely different thing.
Well written! It was so annoying hearing him depict a completely surface level image of the MBTI in that way, let alone go on to judge it and discredit it based on his half-assed non-existent research of the matter.
The issue with MBTI is that everyone thinks 16p is it, when that test has questions that don't even come to the point, and it doesn't even explain the logic behind anything. Plus, people take MBTI at face value, like it is a plan on how you should act, but it does very good explaining sectors of your personality, it really serves as a companion of that process of growing into a better person. Also, MBTI is an spectrum, one with a lot of "in this case this happens, in this other case, this other thing happens"
All the comments about "Well, I get a [ ] 100% of the time, so it's a legit test!" I'm dead! That just means you answer the questions reliably the same every time (which is not the case for everyone). That does not mean that the MBTI test is is not a BS test with weird categories. It's just fun as a party game and there's nothing wrong with that.
"NOTE: A few viewers who are fans of the MBTI didn't agree with my assessment of personality tests. If you have valid scientific research articles (not media articles or blog posts) supporting the MBTI, please let me know! I'm always open to being corrected and improving my analyses". The thing is that the MBTI was initially develop by an INFJ, or to be more precise by someone with strong Fe / Extroverted Feelings. Therefore, imo if you do not have Fe then it can be difficult to apply it to people around you and then to yourself. So in other words, MBTI is not wrong but subjective, and this is probably why there are a lot of mis-types and disputes. Moreover, because feeling and thinking (i.e. logic) by definition have opposite attitudes (i.e. extroverted or introverted), and the majority of the doctors (as far as I understand them) have Te / Extroverted Thinking, what follows is that they have Fi / Introverted Feeling (instead of Fe) as a result. This could be the reason why you find it difficult to agree with MBTI. I mean, I think it is a bit like in day time we cannot see the stars, but they are still there and people at the other side of the earth can see them. Anyway, feel free to disagree and love your videos, please keep up the good works. Thanks.
Thanks, before reading the research I thought MBTI was fun and had no issues with it. My assessment has nothing to do with my personal beliefs and everything to do with what I have found in the scientific literature.
IMO, the MBTI test from the Center for Applications of Psychological Type, and the similar free online tests often don't work, because they don't test for how people use the eight Jungian cognitive functions. However, the underlying theory of cognitive functions is sound and has been developed beyond Jung's own ideas, by a number of others. Socionics is one such development, but not the only one. What's also lost in this video is that use of the cognitive functions are not behavioral traits, but are internal preferences that last a lifetime. The theory doesn't claim that a person is only a thinker or feeler, and so on, merely that people have habitual imbalances. Shame on you doctor for not doing your research on this.
Problem is that the The Big Five test is useless to anyone but your employer/requiter. I just took it and it's very clearly designed to evaluate you for a job in the government and or military. The only things it tries to find out about you is if you'll be loyal to the company, if you care about rules, if you'll conform, if you're willing to sacrifice yourself for your employer, if you'll stay calm under pressure, and so on. This is very clearly geared towards finding out if you'll be a good soldier or corporate drone which makes it useless for anything else. Test shows that whoever designed it has a highly materialistic and rigid world view and tend to put people into only two categories, those that can be a useful tool for authority and those that will resist. Honestly the whole test creeped me out a little bit.
One thing I confuse about personality tests is they ask me some questions about my mood, and I have mood disorders. I don't know the boundary between my _own_ personality and the symptoms.
That's unfortunate. I wonder if maybe you could talk to a psychologist or someone verified to assess these tests and see if maybe they can conjoin an assessment for your mood disorder with a personality test to help better accurately assess you. Certainly worth figuring out.
I have taken both the Big-5 and the MBTI. Interestingly, the results of the two were in near-perfect confluence with one another. I found both to have functional utility. INFJ-A here.
No personality test can tell you who you are with a few simple questions. You have to go on a journey of self-exploration and true introspection in order to find yourself, a test can only give you a place to start from. No two people are exactly alike, only you know who you really are and what it is you stand for and believe in.
I’ll be honest, I hardly see people who want to take personality tests turn out as an extrovert. I think many introverts want to take this test because they want to see where IT places THEM. Versus extroverts where THEY place THEMSELVES. I think labeling introverts vs extroverts is pretty pointless because for me it always comes back to who has more confidence. Probably an extrovert. Can confidence be worked on? Absolutely, it has for me, and I’ve still got a long way to go. At the most, picture personality tests as an assessment of you in a glimpse of time in your long loooong lifetime.
mbti test online is pretty inaccurate, just study the functions and be as objective with yourself as possible analyzing how you view yourself, how others view you, and your relationships w/ other people, also don't put yourself into a box and be aware that it's just a generalization of what you are most likely to be, it can be pretty helpful for self reflection if you know how to use it.
There is a solution to being able to accurately find which mbti type you are, and once you have found it, everything will finally click into place, trust me! First take the test, I'll use my experience with it as an example. I have obtained INTJ twice, and INFJ and ISTJ both once. Therefore my answers were probably not truly honest, or they were in the eyes of myself or someone else only. You only need to take the test once though. Whatever type you get, it should be fairly similar to the type you actually are. The next step is to find your type by searching up your given letters on RU-vid, checking videos describing them, and changing a letter if the type doesn't sound much like you. After this I was certain I was INTJ, and although I have changed much now, my actions as a child were exactly the same as the stereotypical INTJ. I now have learned better socialising skills and may not come across as INTJ to some people, but because my core personality was this, I can look through all my acquired skills and know who I truly am. This is how you do the mbti test.
The issue with the personality tests isn't necessarily that they're wrong, it's that you shouldn't take the test thinking you're going to make your personality whatever it tells you to. They're supposed to reflect what you already are, and maybe call to attention what you haven't noticed, not create new traits or be a guideline
As far as how fixed a personality is, I do agree with you to an extent. People will always change from a behavior perspective, but the core, the cognitive side will stay the same. There is a surprising hidden personality theory I haven't heard much in the "mainstream" called Enneagram, they are one of the few that actually include growth of character in their Theory. also just as an example, the result while simular to say MBTI in that they will give you a "Type" that type is far more complex than just 16. From the surface, there are only 9 types, but those are archetypes, not definitive types. The archetypes are numbered as 1 through 9, and one can further specify by finding out their "wing". This makes it into 18, but one can go even further, there are things called instinctual variants, of which there are three of and one can find out which they lean most on. This narrows it down to 54 different types, but "oh there's more" to channel my inner car salesmen, you can find the Instinctual Variant stack, which determines the order one has for those three instinctual variants. This puts the types at 108, and then you can make it even more complicated by figuring out your tritype by looking at the other "Centers" to see which heart-type, head type, and gut types you have highest(previously mentioned dominant type will already be in one of these three you just have to discover which of the other two). This makes for massive amount of variety, and there is also so much different "paths for growth" that makes sense.
@@manololv8 been forever since I have taken a test… I think personality cafe still has a group there for enneagram? Talk to sone of the people there to find info
I was skeptical of Myers Briggs for many many years until one day I decided to take the test and was blown away by how accurate the results were. I felt like my type had me pegged quite accurately. I read the other 15 and didn’t feel any kinship with those. So as a result of this experience I became sold on the validity of MBTI. I’m always amused when I see people who downplay it or didn’t find it helpful. I found it tremendously helpful. I’ve seen people skeptical of the very idea of personality typology. I don’t think there are 7.5 billion personalities. I do believe that in a large population you can begin to group people together based on common personality traits and you will begin to see trends and patterns. Whether MBTI does this well can be debated but I don’t think it’s an invalid proposition to note that personalities, though diverse, can be grouped into broad categories. To drive my point further just look at mental illness. We have a category called schizophrenia and there are types of schizophrenia but it’s a pretty well mapped out class of mental illness. If we believe that every human is truly unique than why is it that a certain population exhibits classic symptoms of the same mental illness? So my point is that if mental illnesses can be differentiated from one another into separate groups based on certain criteria (schizophrenia vs OCD), why can’t personality as well? I understand that not everybody is going to fit easily into a category. And even being in a category doesn’t mean you lack nuance or exceptions. Everything is a spectrum. But I don’t take issue with the idea of broad categories and for that I do like the MBTI.
Ironic that you call yourself "ScienceGuy" but your argument is completely subjective and anecdotal. wrt to the Schizophrenia comparison, there are many subtypes under the same illness, and patients can respond drastically differently to the same treatment. Sure, you can say that when there are billions of people on Earth, surely we must share some common traits. However, like this video has already mentioned, the MBTI test is inaccurate in assessing whether an individual possesses these traits and also does not measure them on a spectrum but rather as binaries. If one is using it simply as an introduction to personality assessment then sure, nobody is going to judge him/her. But many trainers who are paid to conduct the MBTI test make ludicrous claims like predicting how well an individual is suited for certain occupations (as if they have any evidence to prove these claims in the 1st place) and this could be very harmful for impressionable youths.
Zehao Zhu I don’t know what perceived claim you’re trying to rebut. I never claimed that my own subjective experience should be taken as evidence for the validity of MBTI but that I was personally convinced of its validity from my own experience. I never said others should agree with me based on my experience. However, the argument I did make was against the blanket claim that personalities don’t cluster, and I do disagree with that claim and think it is rather silly. If a person wants to reject or criticize MBTI that’s their prerogative and I don’t care enough to argue with them but they typically reject it on the grounds that personalities don’t cluster at all and that was the point I was trying to make. I don’t believe personalities don’t cluster so anyone rejecting MBTI needs to then come up with a better model that maps that clustering. And like I said before, clusters don’t eliminate nuance or exceptions. There will always be outliers and certain nuances. Regarding MBTI coaching, that’s not something I’m familiar with. I never hired anybody to tell me what I should do based on my personality type. But I did find it tremendously illuminating.
"why is that certain populations exhibit the exact same symptoms of mental illness" That's because we only have the symptoms to base ourselves off. For example with schizophrenia we have almost no understanding of the physiological causes behind it. It could be possible that there are 10 different diseases that all result in schizophrenia, but because we don't understand the underlying causes we group it all into a single illness. Science is incredibly behind in terms of understanding the human mind so we shouldn't pretend that what we think we know is definitely what is actually going on.
Laughs in getting the same mbti test result taking it three years in a row now... I do take it as more of a snapshot of where I am though, and the percentages have shifted. I think no matter how you test it personality is ever evolving.
Socionics > Enneagram > 5 temperaments > MBTI. MBTI =/= Jungian. Socionics =/= Jungian. Enneagram provides levels of health and self-improvement built into the theory. All three theories describe traits that are neither "bad" nor "good", just your tendencies. I'm not gonna become an extrovert, logic minded, practical, in the moment person no matter what I do; I will always lean the other way unless I have extreme trauma that flips me. And it is not laziness or giving up, nor do these theories suggest that. Being severelly mentally ill makes me much more reactive than I would be otherwise, though, so I suppose it's right that someone could change their percentage of traits in the Big 5 theory. In MBTI and socionics, though, the functions pair and so it is not meant to be about percentages at all. Furthermore, in MBTI, Fe types are more in tune with EQ than other types tend to be; it is not about "not thinking". Socionics is more in depth than MBTI because it uses 8 function placements instead of 4, the function placements are more significant, and provides possible (in)compatibilites between types. I like these theories because they open my mind to how other people think much more than Big 5 ever could. All tests for MBTI, socionics, and enneagram are bad. And it is not because the theories are bad; it is because the theories are too complex for a simple test. The only way to know your type is to familiarize yourself with the theory and each function. Big 5 is convenient due to its simplicity, but all theories provide unique insights.
Oh come on, just because I was happy my mbti personality matched with Luna Lovegood's. I just found out about this, but I absolutely loved being an INFP... I do love to fit in a tribe apparently. I'll try now the more accurate personality tests.
Surprised to see so many fans of the MBTI trying to argue for it. Just another way it's like astrology or tarot cards: its proponents are resistant to evidence and very sure of themselves.
astrology and tarot cards obviously inaccurate, but i prefer this kind of personality types (mbti, big five, enneagram etc... ) just to know people better, but i would never assume this people on certain groups or norms or types or traits etc, but if i guess it correctly, i would never convince them to take any of the personality test just to prove them that i guess it right away. but treating them based on preferable types teach me how to be nice with other and get along together (maybe it can be switched ). but if i feel uncomfortable, i would never used "my types" as my flaws, i just straight away tell them that im not into it. don't get me wrong about i fight for personality types, this test also generated by the computers and any other webs, same goes to when you take mental health test online too right? sorry if im wrong, and sorry for my broken english too.
@@allieuw6899 in my opinion, the only thing that I see which is useful for the mbti is which preference are you (introversion vs extraversion, etc.), and its cognitive functions, nothing else, many people try to find who exactly are they but they should just be themselves
I watched this video to inform me about the reliability of this personality test. I agree with those who say that the test only works if you are able to answer with sincerity and self-awareness. The first time I did it I took it lightly and answered roughly - I got "mediator" as a result. It mirrored me enough, but when later I did it more carefully and I got INFJ as a result - I was shocked. The test was able to predict aspects of my personality that I had long noticed but couldn't explain. It was a great relief. I felt like a great weight had been lifted off my shoulders. Maybe it has no scientific basis but I'm sure that if someone bothered to study the brain functioning of people in relation to this test, perhaps evidence based on facts would emerge that this test - born from intuitions and old psychological theories - is indeed valid
It's already been done: The Neuroscience of Personality by Dario Nardi (Professor at UCLA). Not to mention the 5 aspects of the Big 5 are the same ones on the MBTI.
I know it's not got a lot of scientific validity but MBTI is a lot of fun, I find it useful by comparing it to the big 5 model (although tbh it's probably more accurate to just use the big 5 model lol)
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YES! Thank you for bringing this to light! After taking a personality psychology class, it’s been frustrating to see the continued popularity of the Myers briggs over the research-backed Big Five
