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@keyne444 8 месяцев назад

My fav kind of video. 😎

@HiveFleetThanatos 8 месяцев назад

Thanks for watching champ! :)

@Lumovanis 8 месяцев назад

After the change to Ursula, she is really great with Kasrkin. Yeah, they can't get the extra orders the turn they pop in, but if the sentinel pops in nearby, she can fields of fire the sentinel and give the unit that the Kasrkin want to shoot -1 saves as well for 0 CP. Then from that point forward, the Kasrkin can get triple orders (take aim + take cover + first rank/2nd rank). Not to mention she actually puts out some alright damage at close range too.

@CastellanOdenall 8 месяцев назад

The Emperor’s Finest Package

@ghost9pm407 8 месяцев назад

I like this idea. Thinking along these same lines I think I'm more inclined to put Ursula in the back in an infantry squad with mortar or next to a Mortar Team. One mortar can ping your target and proc Fields of Fire for free. If you have Exterminators in the area to add their AP bonus you're looking at AP-3 Hot Shots, -5 Plasma, and -6 Melta for the Kasrkin. This also has the added benefit of being repeatable since Ursula isn't out in the thick of the fighting where she'll likely die. In fact, you kind of want the Kasrkin to die so they can come back somewhere even more inconvenient the next turn with Reinforcements. I know MG likes to pop up on his opponent's home objective Turn 3 when they thought it was safe.

@Lumovanis 8 месяцев назад

Yeah that's the traditional way to run her. Most people don't even realize she's got a nasty close range profile. It's risky to throw her into thier lines, but the potential payoff is great too. I think both ways are equally viable, but one of them is clearly more fun!

@DeathKorpsCommander-sm1um 8 месяцев назад

Two squads of kasrkin, Creed, and one scout sentinel. First turn coming in then Kasrkin get their own orders for 2+ to hit and reroll 1’s from scout sentinel. Second turn Creed can order both units and use the FoF Strat.

@ghost9pm407 8 месяцев назад

@@LumovanisI didn't realize it either actually. I must be looking at an old profile because I only see 4 D1 pistol shots and 4 D1 Power Sword attacks. Where were the new rules published?

@cavemansam8400 8 месяцев назад

Platinum is starting the 3 scout sentinels on the board.. being super aggressive with them. Move block etc.. get them killed by turn three and bring them back on a flank with the Kasrkin for the combo. 😉🤙

@jimart3230 8 месяцев назад

I love how you're realizing elite infantry with special weapons and rerolls are good, I'm waiting for the space marine army at this rate :p

@sebkrauli4793 8 месяцев назад

Yes, the sentinals perfectly fix the "reroll problem" of the Kasrkin. An effective combo which I already used in my games

@leonidasirarrazaval4837 8 месяцев назад

Dam good content men, just started guard, i was a drukhari and tsons player, but now i am going all in with the emperors fines

@Jelle1880 8 месяцев назад

Just started watching your last few videos about Kasrkin, lo and behold he uploads another one right after I was done :D

@IamAlpharius20th 8 месяцев назад

Fun little tactic I made that looks pretty good: get a 10-man unit of scions with plasma and melta, then get a scion command squad, give it plasma, melta, grenade launcher and volley gun, and attach that to the scion squad. Now put it in a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT alongside a 20-man unit of your choice. Run that up on an enemy on an objective and you get full rerolls because of the scions, sustained hits from the command squad and reroll wounds because the Crassus has the Fire Support rule, all with 8 special weapons, two plasma pistols and some extra lasfire. from testing, especially with that storm of plasma, that can devastate even a Black Templar crusader squad.

@CastellanOdenall 8 месяцев назад

Your tactica vids always give me a new strategy I want to try out. Love the Kasrkin and would love to try out the bronze package

@TheTobaccoman 8 месяцев назад

The real sneaky part of them is finding the new kit for retail price or at all. Perhaps you underestimate their sneakiness.

@hpenvy1106 8 месяцев назад

Cut GW some slack, it's been just 1 year 🙄 Seriously tho, consider 3D Printing

@benjaminloyd6056 8 месяцев назад

@@hpenvy1106Stationforge Armored Grimguard are my go-to.

@sirken2 7 месяцев назад

are we sure they just aren't painting the boxes purple now?

@jordanbrown4779 8 месяцев назад

Hey I had this combo in my list already. I did not realize I could put the scout in reserves as well though

@DenWarrenMusic 8 месяцев назад

Another excellent video. Great job on figuring out combos like this.

@davidjohansson524 5 месяцев назад

3 month later, and now after dataslate Kaskrin + Castellan and you get 2 orders after you come in from reserves... +1 bs and + 1 rapid fire shots with sustain hits it´s quite nuts and pulls out even more value from that scout sentinel

@Uhthis 8 месяцев назад

Oooo I love the scalability of this implementation! Either a small flavor to add to the list or a full on combo to give a shot at!

@tyjames3339 8 месяцев назад

As someone who already runs 3 scout sentinels and a squad of kasrkin, 45 points for the castellan to do all that sounds great to me. But I wonder how much better it'd be to pay 10 extra points for Ursula creed over of the castellan...

@rulesmanufactorum 8 месяцев назад

Thanks!

@MordianGlory 8 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for the Super Thanks!

@PitFriend1 8 месяцев назад

Still seems goofy Kasrkin can order themselves while in Reserves and not even on the table but not when they’re in a transport vehicle driving across it.

@percymacdonald6657 8 месяцев назад

They can be issued a 7th order not in the index: "seatbelts on boys!"

@vasilkalov2622 5 месяцев назад

And now this is no longer needed, as orders can be issued after disembarking.

@TheV4sH 8 месяцев назад

At that point why not stick them with a Hades drill? Lets them deepstrike, AND still get their free pseudo-order ability the turn they appear, as the they don't embark the hades so are off the table not in a transport. the hades itself can then provide the anti-vehicle punch with its melta cutter.

@ToastyMcGrath 6 месяцев назад

I love the theme of this idea too. Kasrkin just being armored juggernauts has always been a little boring for me. I like the idea that they can be special ops squads sabotaging and assassinating behind enemy lines.

@michaelswain160 8 месяцев назад

Offworld Auspex is SUCH a good Darktide track

@BakedWaffleFries 8 месяцев назад

Love waking up to a new MG video.

@Storehouse-805 8 месяцев назад

Thank you for the wonderful content! You have inspired me to write lore and keep track of the story of my army! o7!

@rjscorpion8892 8 месяцев назад

This is what I have been trying. Start kasrkin on the board and suicide them into the enemy turn 1/2. Bring them back and send them back into the enemy round 3 to create more havoc. They are great at thinning the opposing armies numbers which just plays into the strength of the guard. When it works I tear through the objective holders and bulk of the other army. When it doesn't its because the other player has been specifically addressing them through dedicated fire. Either way, what a great way to spend 100 points and 2 cp

@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 8 месяцев назад

This is exactly what I do hold my 3 Kasrkrins units in behind buildings and screen them with 60 Kreigers with their officer and psykers it makes a very deadly infantry block. The Kasrkrins get focused down once the enemy realises the level of weaponry in their units but they often struggle to get to them with having essentially 2 orders. Move move move and first rank second rank are always going off

@rjscorpion8892 8 месяцев назад

@@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel nice idea. I am still new, but I go kamazie with kasrkin and a Castellen. I run them right into the front lines with take aim and first rank fire. If they survive a charge, I fall back and shoot. Two rounds of that innthe middle of their lines and everyone has rushed to kill them off by round 2/3. I reinforce and run them right down the backline. By this time people leave a couple alive and they peter out in the backfield tied up in melee, but lots of damage and resources tied up

@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 8 месяцев назад

@@rjscorpion8892 No that's pretty much what I do with them, I use them to push and break through the enemy lines as my Kreig stop them get tied up and then fall back the vets come out nail whatever it is. If they die they just come back and be a problem somewhere else on the board.

@friendlyneighbourhoodsunwheel 8 месяцев назад

I've run 3 Kasrkrins and 3 Cadians officers and a single scout since 10th began and I haven't looked back it's such a deadly loadout with max hotshot volly guns and plasma you just obliterate everything medium and light.

@TheCurlyItalian 8 месяцев назад

I’ve done silver before in a game and it worked excellently. Agree with someone else here, starting the 3 sentinels on the board and using them aggressively and then using reinforcements means you get all the extra value, more HKM and the opponent may not see the strategy coming. Rapid ingress on kasrkin could allow an extra spin too

@DeathsOrigin 8 месяцев назад

I am a Kasrkin fucking FANATIC. I have 70 of them. The plan was to use them as Scion stand ins to make a whole Kasrkin platoon army. But now I just want to run my 30 Kasrkins to support my shock troops. Their kit and abilities are awesome

@agentsleepypanda9612 8 месяцев назад

If you go for the 3 squads of Kasrkin I suggest 2 of them go clasrkin on the edges with a scout each and 1 dakkakin in the middle, don’t forget with Solar you can mind game the opponent by putting any of them in reserve

@QuirkyQ32 8 месяцев назад

ive had effectiveness putting drill commander on the castellen to make it even more likely to get more shots on those special weapons and if you're benefiting born soldiers it makes even the lower strength weapons like the vollygun punch up above thier weight quite abit

@Lumovanis 8 месяцев назад

Drill commander is bad on frontline units because it only triggers when the unit is stationary.

@richard9268 8 месяцев назад

That's the first thing I thought of was adding the Primaris Psyker to the Silver package and giving the psychic attack sustained hits.

@Lumovanis 8 месяцев назад

Can't have a Castellan and Psyker with Kasrkin because they aren't battleline

@ghost9pm407 8 месяцев назад

@@LumovanisIf you put just the Psyker in the squad you could start the Kasrkin on the board and scout with them. Gaunt's Ghosts infiltrate out ahead and could give them Take Cover. If they are in some ruins you could have your own pseudo-terminators at 2+/4++ 😂 And with their ability still be able to give themselves Take-Aim for 2+ BS. I'm assuming the Psyker benefits from the extra order since they benefit from the Scion ability. That's a pretty nice damage dealing package even without Sentinel/FoF/Exterminator support. You run a couple of squads of these alongside maybe some Catachans with Straken in one and Harker in the other and you have some early game pressure that requires an answer from your opponent or they fall behind in points early.

@jacket2848 4 месяца назад

@@ghost9pm407they can't have a 2+ save btw. Both our order and benefit of cover caps at 3+

@giantninja9173 8 месяцев назад

On the list of bad ideas: 2 units of kasrkin in a stormlord that got FRFSRF or take aim order from Leontus.

@Madlarkin00 8 месяцев назад

So triple kasrkin platinum tier and a super heavy.... sounds good

@Waltusb0yuas 8 месяцев назад

Yes

@operator9858 8 месяцев назад

No feelin it on this one. Will stick with the creed ball thanks...

@julianputnam8290 8 месяцев назад

You should see if you can go onto the poorhammer podcast

@Pestilencemage 17 дней назад

Hitting on 3s, isn't full rerolled precisely twice as good as reroll ones?

@blecao 8 месяцев назад

One thing i didnt get about you karsking video is how do you plan to delivering them I explain myself, if they can use theyr abilities or issue orders when disembarking from a transport does that mean that you have to foot slog them or how you do it? I had try them on a chimera but they lack everything Of course next turn they anihilated a 20 man kroot squad with sustained hits firs rank fire and charging them in mele but uff I dont know if i would foot slog them being a 160 points block of guard

@BakedWaffleFries 8 месяцев назад

Sounds like strategic reserve and waiting until turn 3 so they can deploy in the opponents edge.

@alexandrlidin2323 8 месяцев назад

To be honest I feel really iffy about strategic reserves. In my local meta there's practically no chance for a unit coming in from the table edge to have any actual lines of sight, let alone getting on an objective. Things need Deep Strike to have any chance of getting into a meaningful place, and even then it's a big risk.

@Lumovanis 8 месяцев назад

Try more indirect to clear fragile screening units