My mom has worked at a junior high nearly 30 years and the amount of stories she’s told about students hitting and spitting on faculty staff is crazy 😢😢 Some students need an aid with them while at school.
After watching what my cousin has done for the last 15 years since he was born, I am not surprised these rooms exist. Hope all the Dr’s feel proud they messed these kids up. No way this can be blamed ONLY on mental illness. These kids nowadays act like they have rabies, not ADHD or other spectrums.
@@CC45-As It’s hard to describe but if a person has ADHD, ADD, Autism, or whatever else, they usually take medication, Well if that person has undiagnosed mental disorders like bipolar or schizophrenia etc that medication will mess with their moods or cognitive state badly. To fix this a Dr prescribes a new medication and suggests the parents have the kid talk to a psychologist, who then prescribes another medication to suppress the mental disorder causing issues with the Adhd or Add medications. I don’t know about all kids but most the kids I know were on different medications all the freaking time and some even refused to take it because they felt better without it (until they got depressed again) Yeah it’s a total cluster fock.
My mom works at my school and she deals with kids like this! But the way my school handles these type of situations, is SO more safe then this! They put them in a room with a staff member and try’s to calm them down! They play games,Chrome book/computer,and fidgets! I see these things happen rarely at my school and does not harm anyone or anybody! - Stay safe you guys -Thanks for taking time to read this!😃
I have autism and the schools I was at in the uk it was handle better example one school I was placed at for a brief time had a smiler isolation area but blue and holes in the walls and the teachers caused most of them by putting the students heads against the walls and pushing then into it thankfully my mom and dad managed to find a way nicer school to attend and help me learn and not have to worry about fighting students and teachers heck a kid set another student heir on fire before I arrived and he was suspended for 2 while a history teacher mr Burton wanted us to eat dormouse for our learning experience about the romans
Yep certainly was and still is. I was in a joint primary & secondary special school, they always dragged the kids and locked them in rooms. However they wouldn’t dare touch us older kids 😂
I'm autistic and I'll admit, I've had my outbursts as a child. But I would be terrified of trusting any adult if I was thrown to the floor and into a room. There needs to be better methods of caring for a child in this situation.
Great point, but I always trusted and respected my teacher when it ended. It's usually based on severe rage occurrences, so it almost gets forgotten a few mins after re entry to classroom. Life is so hard now, but it's not the teachers fault. They care more than anyone else ever could
I used to go to a special needs school called Meliora and they put me in one of those rooms for over 6 hours after I started crying because another student bullied me. By the time I got out of there, it was 12:00 AM and my parents were outraged at the school for doing this to me. On top of all this, they also dragged me on the carpet to get me in this room. I'm an adult now and I still have nightmares because of this and I still have scars on my knees over 30 years later
What about the students on the receiving end getting locked up just for having a meltdown? They matter too and likely have PTSD from being restrained like that.
I've heard of this happening to a lot of autistic students. Here's the thing, when they have a meltdown, it's usually from sensory overload or unmet needs in addition to stress and anxiety. With the right accommodations meltdowns can be prevented but many schools don't offer that or have poorly trained staff. The Judge Rotenberg center in Massachusetts is a classic example of using extreme methods by attaching devices to their residents and using electric shock often for minor things that aren't harmful. I'm glad I was homeschooled because something like this would've probably happened to me. I wasn't restrained or anything but I ended up in time out frequently in 1st grade but it was for things that I DIDN'T do or there was a misunderstanding. I got bullied and if I spoke up I was punished and nothing happened to them. One substitute teacher was upset at how I was being treated and another who worked in special ed and really wanted to help me was angry when the school didn't approve her request that I get transferred to her class. Even as an adult I still have mental scars. A couple of years ago an article was published about how public schools could be giving autistic students PTSD. Several students also did better with home school or remote learning. Practices like restraints and such has to stop! This is 2023 NOT 1923!
I’m 24 years old and I’m autistic, my Elementary school a long time threatened to send me to Jail for not listening. I believe they really never tell me and explain to me about my problems. I’ve seen some of my teachers become bullies to me also and made fun of me. My behavior got even worst that I started make threats to my teachers and my family for not getting any help I need. This is going to get worse in the future if Nobody listens and takes it serious.
I remember when I was in first grade my first grade teacher, Mrs. Beatty, threatened to send me to a mental hospital all because I asked to for help on a math problem. FYI she is still in my school distract because she never got caught.
You can't expect teacher, aides and other students to be subjected to a out of control dangerous child. If your kid is hitting spitting biting others they don't belong in a public school. I absolutely feel sorry for teachers having to put up with children like this they don't get paid enough.
I agree. For you as a parent to subject another adult to your out of control, child is very absurd. The parent can either school them themselves or put them in a proper school for children with special needs. These parents can’t be upset about the fact that how another adult who doesn’t get paid enough is treating their special needs child.
They shouldn't be getting paid to be abused. There's no reason for this behavior. Either the kid can handle public school and be accountable for themselves or they go to a special school with speciality trained staff.
This probably interferes with the other kids' learning as well. It has to be very distracting to the other kids. Being a teacher has to be the toughest job.
The parents should have been called. Then the parents should go pick them up right away. So, if the parents have to leave work then it needs to happen.
I live in Michigan. I once had a foster child get put into one of these rooms. They busted out and the school had to go into lockdown. All available police officers had to chase him down through people’s backyards to catch him. He made it like half a mile. He was like 10. He got expelled; and this was like the first month of school.
@@FakeAlexMason5836 I was actually in a lockdown my senior year because a special needs kid punched a teacher so hard in the chest that it broke ribs and KO’d him. Kid was a beast. He was like 6’3.
It might be better for kids who misbehave this badly, to just be taught at home by their parents. The parents probably know how to properly discipline them and handle them without putting other people in any danger.
@@gurennaruto2887 Sometimes adjustments have to be made. Maybe one parent stays home while the other parent works and they do without certain things in order to make sure the child is properly cared for. Maybe they move to a city with a lower cost of living, maybe they do without certain luxuries or extras. Any time someone decides to have a baby, they have to realize that the child's well being comes first.
@@XTR02 The 12 year old who was screaming and spitting has behavioural issues due to a brain tumour. How do you suggest his parents discipline that brain tumour out of him? That one really hit home for me because I trained a service dog for a good friend's son who was extensively disabled due to multiple surgeries and bouts of radiation therapy to treat his recurrent brain cancer. When the dog was completely trained, though, it was too late to place him--my friend's son had become aggressive and prone to violent outbursts without warning. I felt terrible for my friend and for him but there is absolutely no way I would ever place a dog in harm's way. Her son's problems weren't due to a lack of good parenting--until the brain cancer got him, he was a polite, funny, high achieving kid with a terrific sense of humour who would never have hurt anyone. Subject anyone's brain to too much trauma, though, and the risks of irritability, loss of emotional control, aggression and violent behaviour just keep going up and up until it becomes inevitable (over 99% of kids with his type of brain cancer experience weight gain and at least 3 unprovoked episodes of violence within 18 months of diagnosis--if they survive that long).
Homeschooling is best for some Childern, especially for those who can not be within a normal school environment do to the stress levels that they can not handle which turn causes them to act out.
When I was in 1st grade I had HUGE behavioral issues and it’s not easy to teach at home when parents need to get work to pay for their medical expenses to help them get better. Call the parents
My brother is special needs and seeing this breaks my heart... things need to change! Proper training is needed! Theres no need to be violent. Being violent teaches these kiddos nothing.. it teaches them that if i misbehave they get throwen in a room restrained or even hurt! 💔
This is unnaceptable and should be a crime and these schools need to be held accountable for child abuse. If a kid is misbehaving that badly, SEND THEM HOME!
I have autism and we had a seclusion room in one of my schools, though it was very different as it was covered in carpet and padding, and the only way you could lock the door is if someone press the button so someone was always watching you the entire time you’re in the room. They used it so you could calm down and then they could talk to you about what happened. I don’t think they ever restrained you more than just holding your arms to get you into the room so you could calm down.
As a 15 year old watching this, this shocks me as I know well I have a twin brother who was autism has behavioral issues when he was little. I was hearing my twin brother screaming in the hallways far away from my classroom and it just makes me feel bad. After that, my mother was furious after seeing bruises on my brothers back. He’s doing okay as of now and Me and my brother who’s traumatized still remember the worst thing to this day.
@@jonathansabinvarietyfilmsIdk. But an autistic child should NEVER be restrained during a meltdown UNLESS the child is a threat to themselves or others or if the child starts to damage property or something.
Sorry that happened to you and your brother. Hopefully you two can talk about it and try to heal. I'm not saying that trauma goes away but talking about it does make a difference.
Not a restraint room but im autistic. In fifth grade, i was locked in the bathroom my by special education teacher. I am still traumatized by this incident still.
I'm sorry special needs kids needs to be placed in schools meant for special needs children cause normal schools and normal teachers aren't trained on how to handle/safely deal with special needs students
Jesus!!! Ok, I deal with behaviors everyday in my class. But you do the work and find what works for that CHILD. This is why educators and counselors need to be better trained in dealing with these behaviors, and better PAID.
I remember when I was restrained as a kid and suspended when I kicked my elementary school principal back in Maryland. I had bad behavior issues back then but as a teen I gotten better
I was among a victim of the same thing in my elementary school years. I was too put in one those rooms and locked in for hours. It has caused me trauma every day I think or even speak about it.
Behavioral issues they say, but I was never like that, and as i have been dragged and thrown in the small room for a total of 2 years i was then sent to another school where they did the same thing too
I use to work at kindercare and there were children ages 2-5 years that would be have like this. A lot of the time it was for attention; they wanted to get taken to the office and get 1 on 1 attention from staff. I agree with those parents that restraining can be necessary but there’s a right and wrong way to do so. Some mechanisms can be counterproductive.
Schools have no right to just assign ANY teacher to a class or even just a student with known special needs like shown here unless that teacher specifically has a degree & EXPERIENCE in interacting with & teaching these children.
@@robbarbour3173 You say that, but the alternative is to let them run loose and assault other students/staff. When that happens, then you people will all be crying "Why did you let special needs Declan run around freely and stab poor Timmy in the eye with a pencil?". Seriously, what is the other solution, other than sending them home and removing them from normal schools? Also you should learn the definition of hypocrisy.
My parents took my older brother to our community center when he was 3 for daycare. They picked him up and they were told he was placed in a room alone for 2 hours because he started crying hysterically, all they knew was that something scared him. They refused to tell my parents what led up to it or anything
I just filled a CPS case against my autistic childs school. My son's were chipped and they suspended him the next day when I asked for an emergency Ard. My son has never been violent and now attacks me and runs away. I am so hurt. I worked so hard to make sure he wasn't violent😢😢😢😢😢
@@blademaster1227If their behavior is out of control, then for their own safety, it might be better for them to be home schooled. Also for everyone else's safety.
I am 34 years old and I have ADHD. I was put in seclusion for two-three hours when I was in elementary school because I was fidgeting in class. The room was about half the size as the final room shown, the walls were painted a puke green color, and had worn down beige carpet in it. I can slightly remember the room smelling of pee.
I feel so bad for the parents it must be so hard to watch the videos of their children being restrained and they children with special needs need to be treated better they already have so many odds stacked against them and they need more professional responses
In 2010 i was teen in a residential psychiatric treatment center who were brutal and abusive. That place is no a juvenile detention center. This is some of the type of things i would see and be subjected to. I cant belive this is at school. God help those kids. Traumatic.
I’ve been in one of those before, and it’s horrifying 😢😭 it was when I got in trouble for no apparent reason at all and I had to stay in a secluded area in the school office, and it’s SO DISGUSTING 😡🤬
I live in Santa Barbara California. And I have special needs to . When I was in school I had trouble with my disability to . But when I went to a different school in Santa Barbara hope school I had a teacher and an aid who helped me become a better person. They never put me in those things either . During my junior high years to high school years ive seen some special needs student face some hard times . But as they got older they became a better person by controlling their emotions. I hope school staff does better training for special needs students. And parents I’m on your side .
I went to a private school for 5 years in middle school. We had a CIC [crisis intervention center] or CRC [crisis resource center] room we would get put in. Taken down by any measure needed. Was a small cold room with a crisis resource staff member, where you could be restrained or baracaded. It was a crazy school back when I was there.
Well, if a child starts to hit, kick, spit or bite, then desperate calls for desperate measures. It’s better to be restrained and put in an empty room until the child decides to calm down, or be put in a jail cell. Special needs or not, these kids need to learn one way or another that he/she can’t assault themselves or others.
not going to judge those who work with the special-needs. There's no logic or empathy to be had at times with these kids because they simply cannot mentally grasp it. If the parents disagree, they can re-school their child or homeschool them instead.
@@cjtheevilghost5711 then they don't need to be in a public school setting. they need either specialized schooling or home schooling. Behavior and violent outbursts disrupt the classroom environment in negative ways. Should "normal" kids have to have their education disrupted over and over to accommodate neuro divergent kids that cannot regluate and control themselves?
My autistic son went to a school in Kenton County Kentucky. They actually had padded rooms. The principal told us because we specifically asked after watching a news report about schools having them. They claim he was never put in one. We only allowed him to attend preschool there. After we moved, we enrolled him in an Indiana school for first grade. We asked about padded rooms there, and the principal laughed because she did not know that actually existed. His new principal was shocked and realized why we requested a meeting and a tour before he even attended one day of class there. His new teachers openly and honestly reported any behavior problems with him. We were lucky because Autism Speaks gave him an IPad for school use so he could openly communicate. He learned to talk shortly after that and all behavior issues from frustration of not being able to communicate ended.
It's as if hospital ward security staff got a job at a school and trained them in brutal methods of dealing with mentally ill patients. If it comes to the point of having to lock a child behind a door to protect everyone, then it's time to call the parents or someone to remove them from the school. They need help outside of school, to be able to reintegrate back into school because they aren't fit to be in a school.
@@robbarbour3173 You agree with him? He didn't even make an opinion or anything, just a statement of fact about his own life. What is there to agree with LMAO?
@@robbarbour3173 I'm sorry too if my reply was a little bit abrasive, in fact my comment was probably not necessary as I realise you were just trying to say that you were in a similar situation as the original commenter and understand what he went through. Again I apologise.
What else do people expect them to do. They can’t put them in a room with stuff all around. I don’t agree with holding them down but put them in the room by themselves and have someone outside the door to keep an eye on the child. I think that a lot of teachers just don’t know what to do anymore.
I remember that I was secluded in school. I was in kindergarten. One day, I got in trouble, and I was sent to a small, secluded room in the office. I was confused at first, then scared after I realized that when you get into trouble, you go there.
I will say there has been a pretty dramatic rise in children with "special needs" that simply did not exist 30 hell 20 years ago, but putting a little child in an arm bar or arm lock seems a bit much, but it's hard to put too much blame since parents basically say "he's your problem between 8am and 3pm" (and sometimes even later.
Yes, there was they were just hidden better. Kids like this were thrown in asylums or purposely neglected to death. Doctors would urge parents who gave birth to children with disabilities to let the child die, and if the child survived, they'd be locked away. Out of sight out of mind. All the mental asylums across the US were closed because people started complaining about the abhorrent conditions the children and adults with disabilities were living in. Now, the government just let's them be homeless. The government didn't fix the issue they just caused a new one.
Yes, there was it was just hidden better. Out of sight out of mind. Back in the old days, parents who gave birth to children with disabilities were told to put the child in an asylum. Or even worse, let the child expire. The US had a ton of asylums for disabled people. The government shut them down because people started complaining about the horrible conditions. Now there's no place for them to go so they end up on the streets. The government didn't fix the problem, and they've also made it harder for parents who have children with disabilities. Even if you want to home school, the government has so many restrictions and requirements to do, so it's almost impossible. Plus, parents pay taxes towards education, so they have a right to the same care as any other child. Maybe the government should give at least one parent a stipend to stay at home with the disabled child. Instead of giving it to someone else to care for the child. I guess there's no right answer.
I posted this same comment above too. So many people saying this wasn't a problem 30 years ago obviously know nothing about asylums for the mentally handicap. I love how quickly people forget about the days when we hid people with disabilities from the general public and treated them worse than animals.
I worked in a residential facility that had a room like this, called the “protective separation room,” or the PSR. Kids were taken there as part of a restraint, or if they requested to go there (which they did when they were feeling like they needed some sort of cathartic release. They could yell or curse or rip up phone books, etc). We had special training for the restraints we used, & some were strictly forbidden (like prone restraints). The two men mentioned in this report looked like they got no training at all, or they ignored it. The room did truly seem useful at times, or at least, provided a choice when there was seemingly no other… But that was about 15 years ago…the way things were being done was starting to shift when I left the job. Not sure how it is now, but after seeing this report, I’m very curious.
This is traumatizing for kids! How could a teacher do this to kids! They take a othe. Going through this could destroy a child’s life’s! They will have ptsd and have issues for the rest of there life’s from this! Put an end to this please people! 😢
its not the teachers job to discipline, if parents wanna cry and whine abt their kid acting out (even tho its the parents fault) they can homeschool their troubled kid
ok, so the world doesnt live for one person, meaning if a kid cannot handle a social environment like a school, DO NOT KEEP THEM THERE. its not fair to the teachers, other kids, and their parents as well@@bingbongboy1
Couldn't you give a tranquilizer to a student if hes super aggressive and violent if the parents authorize and accept for a tranquilizer because thats the only option therapy and counseling isnt fkn working at all
That is going too far, especially for special needs students. I know students need discipline, whether they’re special needs or not, but doing that is going way too far.
Yeah some schools take it too far, but these students shouldn’t be on the premises anyway. My school has a Stunden know for hurting and doing inappropriate actions against others, and always will the principle make up an excuse.
If the students were properly accommodated, many meltdowns CAN be prevented. It's not that hard or costly to make a classroom accessible for disabled students. So many schools violate the rights for autistic and other disabled people to receive an education. The same applies to discrimination for jobs.
When I was in kindergarten, the classroom I was in in a school I went to before I moved to a different elementary school had a seclusion room, and I got sent in there a few times. I hated going there.
The school should call the guardians to immeadiately take over the care of the problematic kid. That will put the burden back to the guardians. All the blames on others will not help a kid who needs special help.
The government should stop making it so hard to home school your own children. They should stop taking the taxes for education from the parents who want to home school their children. The government is the one who stepped in and made the laws saying every child needs to have a formal education, and if parents can't do it the way the government requires, then they must attend school. If you fail to do so, you will find yourself in front of a judge and possibly end up in prison. Back in the old days, children and adults with disabilities were tossed into asylums and hidden from the general public. Or even worse, mothers were told to let their babies expire if they were born with disabilities. Should we go back to those days? Now we have more homeless people, more mentally ill people in jails, thanks to the government shutting down all the asylums and kicking the mentally handicap out on the streets. They should have fixed the problem not made it worse. What the hell am I paying taxes for it seems like nothing is getting fixed, but hey, at least my taxes helped buy another vacation home for some wealthy politician somewhere.
I personally remember a timeout like this as early as kindergarten, except it wasn't that secluded. As an autistic kid, I vividly remember voluntarily going into that time-out closet during naptime or wanting to be alone from kids who sometimes didn't like how I was play Checkers the wrong way.
I love the mother's detailed alternative plan for safely restraining a spitting, violent, growing child that can't be effectively communicated with... or maybe I missed that part?
I think the kids that have behavioral problems like that should probably just be taught at home by their parents. That way the parents would be in charge of their education and discipline.
@@jenniferhansen3622 implying that no parents have ever restrained or secluded their kids? Just because it’s family doesn’t mean it’s ok to do that, let alone to a child
@@thealextrifier I never said anything about that. I just said they should be home schooled for their safety and everyone else's. Don't parents know how to handle their own children properly? I would hope so. Nobody knows the child better than the parents, so it seems like they would be the best people to teach them if their behavior is a problem.
As a father of 3 kids with autism 2 of them adults sometimes you gotta do this and hold them down because its becomes a dangerous situation they can hurt someone or themselves my oldest is 22 if he has a meltdown it will take a strong person to hold him Back even me as a strong adult its not a easy thing to do
When is a good time to call 📱 the parents ? I would say right away only when the people understand ☝🏽We all have different Needs this is heartbreaking to say the least
But giving kids medicine is the answer right? It’s not inhumane or barbaric turning them into zombies? Mom and Dad give in at home when their child acts a fool and when the school doesn’t the school is wrong. It always starts at home. Always.
My Daughter was put into one of these in 2nd grade 2ND for breaking a pencil, I took her out of that school, She had Bruises, Blood Marks, And was Scared, This makes me sick.
