Are SpeedPaints 1.0 Still Worth Buying?

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Join me as I paint up some Mummified Undead and talk about my experience using first generation SpeedPaints and how Army Painter is working on an improved formula to fix the reactivation issues SpeedPaints suffer from.
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@TheArmyPainter Год назад

This guy gets it. We think you'll like what we've come up with thus far.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Looking forward to it! Thanks for the comment 🙂

@Jordan-cd7zj Год назад

Been using speed paints now and have had a blast finding different clever tricks to paint minis. That plus slapchop method have made painting armies super quick.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

They are pretty great. I saw they have some metallics on the way too. I'm looking forward to having more color options :)

@Jordan-cd7zj Год назад

@@hauntswargaming Now that will be fascinating to see how they work! I'm also trying to get Vallejo's Express paints (speedpaints) to complement the range.

@RyanPMcGowan Год назад

These look great. I was skeptical of your process at first but they're seriously awesome models.

@SvartElric9 Год назад

The final result looks great, you really took advantage of the reactivation!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks! :P

@kosachilles2504 Год назад

Great video! Really enjoyed watching it ☺️

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Glad to hear it! Thanks for the comment :)

@nerdstuffandreviews7578 Год назад

Great job on your army. They look fantastic!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks :)

@hauntswargaming Год назад

How do you like my Christmas Mummies? I didn't really plan to use so many greens and reds. Maybe it's just the time of year but they do kinda have a Christmas vibe to them. Have a great Holiday BTW! Thanks as always for the support. This is my last video for 2022 so I'll see you next year! Also I used sirayatech (grey) and any cubic tough (clear) resin to print these. The Any cubic tough takes paint as well as any other resin if you were wondering. I'd suggest getting a pigmented version of it though. I had a lot of issues with the clear.

@Janitorp Год назад

I was really impressed with the exoskeleton results on the bugs, nice work

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks!

@benoitdemers1900 Год назад

Wow great work!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thank you :)

@blackraptor311 Год назад

Marvelous work sir.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks! :)

@mattygee37 Год назад

Looks great.

@Gumlass1 Год назад

That army looks great!!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks!

@HasBeenChosen Год назад

great review

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks!

@billdefranza4927 Год назад

Great editing, dude!

@billdefranza4927 Год назад

And great paintjob!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thank you! I put a lot of time into it :)

@MurderHoboRPG Год назад

looks great!!!!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks!

@alanwesley598 Год назад

As somebody that just focuses on getting models table ready speed paints work fine. A coat of speed paint and wet blend up the flat areas with a slightly brighter acrylic is super fast.

@michaelsternald Год назад

Why does everyone say the reactivation is an issue? I strongly suggest taking a look at Dana Howl, how to work with the speedpaints and take advantage of the properties they have.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I think there was just an expectation that they would work exactly like contrast. Dana does have some good videos on them. She has a color reference section on her site as well that I use sometimes.

@Evilminiature Год назад

Because it is? I don’t want my fking “speed” paint to reactivate. Just the fact they call them speed is a joke in itselfz

@rossilavery Год назад

I think the reactivation is an issue. I almost never just put a single layer of 1 'contrast paint' and leave it at that. I the second it is dry I go back in and do washes, transitions and blends with colours over the top. Then I inevitably go back in with additional layers of dry brushing and highlights etc. The way I paint with contrast paints basically demands that the paint does not reactivate otherwise I would end up with tearing everywhere. I don't have access to a airbrush and I can't always spray paint when I want given the weather I live with and so unfortunately the speed paints just don't work for me in their current form. If it was ever fixed however I would certainly jump.

@marvinp90 Год назад

I agree. I like the reactivation. It does so much better with blending colors

@thegreatkamikaze Год назад

I agree. I've had better coverage over smooth areas with Speed Paints and the reactivation also helps with cleaning up stray paint with just a clean, wet brush

@bettsdn Год назад

As a mini painting hobbyist AND amateur gouache painter, I can’t believe I never came to this comparison before.

@MacAttack001 Год назад

I understand that reactivation isn't a problem as long as you use Speed Paint Medium to thin them instead of water. Nice looking minis! :)

@hauntswargaming Год назад

That's not quite the case, but they have their 2.0 line coming out soon so it's kinda irrelevant:p

@justarandomname420 Год назад

APSP and slap chop, a cheat code to make it seem like I know what I'm doing.

@Cornwall248 11 месяцев назад

Totally agree . Experimenting and exploring is half the fun of a hobby like ours.

@Marcus001 Год назад

Great paints

@GeneralKetchup57 Год назад

Very cool miniatures! What 3d printer did you use and files? I really like the quickshade, but be careful and do it with plenty of ventilation. I'm also into speed paints.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Thanks! I have an anycubic photon mono and the files are from the Mummified Undead line by OnePageRules. And I think I had my vent fan on nearby and a respirator on while I was applying the quickshade. :P

@stefan020290 Год назад

Vallejo put out their line of express colours. They are even cheaper than SpeedPaint and don't have the reactivation issue. The range is kinda limited at the moment tho as they only have 23 colours.

@drsh0ckalu Год назад

I want some speed paints, I'm holding out for the Vallejo instead of AP.

@mariooooo.o3404 Год назад

I got a few xpress colors...i like them but speedpaints still make better highlights...there is not as much contrast with xpress because they are so thin..speedpaints are still king for me..I have no idea why people are crying reactivation issue...its only an issue with water diluted acrylics without letting SP dry enough

@elbitxo5945 Год назад

Thing is if you already have some/many speedpaints, you'd rather stick with them in order to be able to mix them properly to achieve new colors, and IMO they offer the best saturation and contrast values while not being that patchy. Plus, like many others, I didn't have reactivation issues at all, it's really easy to work around it or use it to your benefit, it's only a problem if you try to glaze, which I don't because it takes too much time. The price is pretty close in my country, even being Vallejo's homeland, the SP are only 40 cents more expensive and both are much cheaper than the Contrast line. I will probably get some Xpress colors since they tend to mimic the Contrast range, specially if the new SP fail to provide nice purples and a better white and yellow. Some other translucent paints to keep on mind are the Green Stuff World's Dipping Inks, the cheapest considering their bottle size, but I'm not a big fan of their color range. Being cautious until I see more full depth reviews, if I wanted to start painting with translucent paints in 2023 I'd probably go Vallejo, not only because the price, but because the matte finish, completing the color range with a few bottles of other brands.

@elbitxo5945 Год назад

@@mariooooo.o3404 reactivation is also an issue for those using them to glaze. Look at Juan Hidalgo's review. Probably the most advanced painters like Juan, David Soper or Emil Squidmar will discard SP for that reason, but it really isn't an issue for me or most people out there.

@steveisaak4320 Год назад

You are. Far better painter than I sir

@Micsma Год назад

Jeeeeeez That agitator really lodged in there eh? I'd use a vortex mixer to keep that from happening.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I've never had that happen before lol I thought it was clogged up with dry paint at first and was trying to squeeze it out. Probably not the best idea in hindsight. Just gotta make sure that the bead isn't in the nozzle from now on :p

@sethpeterson8261 Год назад

Got speedpaint mega set at launch and after painting several games now they're my main go-to now. They're pretty great as-is, the reactivation as an issue has been blown out of proportion and they've pretty much replaced my contrast paints. I am looking forward to the new colors and formula too. Were all of these models dipped in Quickshade or just some?

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Everything except the "spirits" I believe. I think I'm going to use a brush in the future. It globs up easily If you aren't careful. I've been testing out the green stuff dipping inks and really find myself missing being able to just wipe the paint off sections after it's dried.

@sethpeterson8261 Год назад

@@hauntswargaming Ive used Quickshade twice, once dipping and once brushing (although I didn't wipe it off any areas) and it took days to get close to dry, but for weeks still felt tacky. Ended up stripping the minis. Looks like you got better results, although if you dipped without varnishing in first I wonder if it would melt the speedpaints? If it worked without varnishing first that would be great.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@@sethpeterson8261 QS IS a varnish so as long as you aren't brushing it on aggressively it seals the paint too. I think you really gotta keep it from pooling to get good results.

Год назад

Longer drying times are plus if anything! At least for me... Also I had some great results for faces with Crusader Skin over Vallejo Light Skin and finishing off with a brown enamel wash from AK.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Agreed with the drying times. And that's a good idea. I've only tried crusader skin over white. I'll have to try it in combination with washes next time

Год назад

@@hauntswargaming Over white I guess it turned out a bit pale?

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@ Nah it was vibrant enough. I just haven't had enough practice with it.

@sethpeterson8261 Год назад

Yeah. I've had no issues with Crusader Skin, has given me solid results so far

@Titus_Vespasianus Год назад

where can I find the link for this particular army??? And nice job painting them...

@hauntswargaming Год назад

They're Mummified Undead by OnePageRules. You can get the files on myminifactory.com. They give out monthly discounts through their Patreon. I'd suggest signing up for that if you are getting any previous releases for printing. It's like 70% off usually. www.patreon.com/onepagerules? They sell physical models too here only-games.co/collections/onepagerules

@metalman895 Год назад

I got the starter set and was surprised that they didn't just replace every paint and technique I ever learned. They're amazing when the task calls for them, but they're just another tool in the drawer. Crusader skin particularly always seems to let me down, showing too much of the primer coat through.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Yea well said. Crusader skin may work better over a grey wash. I've only used it on faces and wasn't impressed.

@metalman895 Год назад

@@hauntswargaming oh definitely not! I used to use reaper light ghost grey primer exclusively and it shows through on the raised edges and makes the skin a real dead grey tone. maybe a brown undercoat...

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@@metalman895 Yea that would make more sense

@RESURRECT2 Год назад

They should do them without reactivation, but add "Reactivation Medium" as an additional bottle so we can make them to.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

That might be tricky to do. They could do 2 separate lines maybe.

@TimLewallen Год назад

If you want even cheaper speed paints, check out the new line of paints from Green Stuff World.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Jeez everybody is making speedpaints now hah, Do they reactivate?

@TimLewallen Год назад

@@hauntswargaming Not that I have heard. All I know is they charge half of what everyone else does and the bottles are twice as big.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@@TimLewallen looks like they sell them in sets. I might have to pick one up

@metalman895 Год назад

Oooh more goodies to hoard!

@xxapoloxx Год назад

What range are those skelles from?

@hauntswargaming Год назад

OPR's Mummified Undead. There is a link in the description if you want to check them out

@irishtom30 Год назад

Where are you still getting testor's dullcote? I thought they stopped making that!

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I get mine at Hobby Lobby. I really hope that's not true :O That stuff is the best

@hauntswargaming Год назад

It's called spray enamel but the dullcote is in small font on the back of the can lol I probably should show the front of the can too. The gloss and dull look identical aside from that part on the back of the can

@irishtom30 Год назад

@@hauntswargaming Thanks, I didn't realize! I just ordered three cans. Had been using AP spray varnish, but I found it was getting very gloss when the can was getting low

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@@irishtom30 no problem! I use matte varnish from Walmart for a lot of larger projects and in between layers but for minis I usually use the dullcote as a final coat.

@NinetaleHobbies Год назад

Very nice! I think of SP use like oils. Sand Golem makes a great gold substitute if you ever wanna give that a try.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I haven't tried that. I know sand golem is good for red hair though. Idk if you saw but they have some metallic speed paints coming out soon!

@NinetaleHobbies Год назад

@@hauntswargaming I did. I'll definitely be picking up some of the new colors that have been hinted at. Really want a nice chartreuse.

@edevans5991 Год назад

If you want to be really cheap Quick Shade is the same stuff as Polyshades wood varnish.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I was wondering if I could use that instead. It looks similar but does it shade the same way? I imagine it would stain the whole model rather than separating but I've never tried it.

@slimjim7411 Год назад

@@hauntswargaming I dipped models before Quickshade was a thing. Minwax Polyshades Antique Walnut works the same but I experimented with other wood varnishes and they did not work at all. So you're pretty much stuck with 1 medium shade but it's much cheaper.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

@@slimjim7411 interesting, maybe ill try that out sometime! I might even have a can of it already in my garage lol

@paulherridge8147 Год назад

Have u seen Green Stuff Worlds Dipping Inks ? much bigger bottles for around the same price as a bottle of AP speed paint ! I now have both sets and love em both :P

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Yea, I have some shipping to me right now actually :p Looking forward to trying them out!

@SentientNr6 Год назад

You scared me a bit in the beginning with applying the same color everywhere but the endresult is impressive. You probably know this but if you print the models standing, while taking longer the layering should be much less visible on the beasts and shields.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I used the pre-supported versions. Maybe I'll try repositioning them if I do more. I COULD print the shields separately but that's more work than it's worth IMO.

@jasoncarpenter5974 Год назад

Why would they be dead??? They’re great and reactivation isn’t an issue. They have different properties. I prefer Instant Colors and Speedpaints to Contrast Paints because of the properties they possess.

@SweenyMarc Год назад

Army Painter Quickshade used to be a common tool but it's fallen out of favour. The modern version (which I would say is superior) is oil washes. You'll see a lot of other RU-vidrs with videos about them, but it's the same effect as APQS but with more control over where it goes and where it stays and more range in strength and colour of the shading effect. It is more work than the old dip method though.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

I have used oil washes for a few projects. They're definitely easier to control. Quickshade seems very situational. I can understand why it's not used as often these days. For undead it's pretty effective though!

@edevans5991 Год назад

I think Quickshade can get good results but I don't enjoy the clean up. It's very nice for making sure your terrain can hold up to some abuse.

@EliteC64 Год назад

Ive been using quickshade tin for awhile and works wonders with speeding paints and slapchopping, trick is to apply with a brush instead of dipping in tin.

@sethpeterson8261 Год назад

I have some quickshade, but the two times I've used it, it never seemed to cure and remained tacky for weeks. I had to strip it all

@photonfartsqueeze6694 Год назад

Black, brown or gray base rims. Anything else makes them look like a toy.

@nikkibaugher1072 Год назад

Bedazzled..lol

@stonehorsegaming Год назад

I bought the smaller set before I had heard about the reactivation. Sort of put me off using them. I will give them a try at some point. Think I am very much a coloured primer, paint the details, then apply a watered down wash sort of painter. So these new ones seem like having to learn a whole new technique.

@hauntswargaming Год назад

Nothing wrong with that. It's not like there's only one "right" way to paint. I think they're worth trying for the base coat at least.

@captainferrite Год назад

Never have been

@Goblinhandler Год назад

I remember when I heard that Citadel Contrast were getting cheaper alternatives, I got visibly existed, that excitement disappeared when I heard it was AP, these paints are trash, they’re watery washes that are awful for actually painting anything that isn’t a skeleton, weird looking spez muhrine or lightly colored It’s physically impossible to paint something like Abaddon and not have him look unfinished