Are Tenkeyless (TKL) Keyboards Right for You?

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Are TKL keyboards right for you? Dmitry discusses everything important to consider when making that decision. Enjoy! :)
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@theresalwaysanotherway3996 7 лет назад

0:26, if all adverts were like this, there would be no need for a skip button...

@kvarley87 5 лет назад

At work I prefer a TKL with a separate numpad on the left. I do a lot of CAD at work and i like being able to input numbers quickly w/out having to take my hand off the mouse. I am really surprised with how many people are saying they dont use the numpad. It's sooo much faster than trying pick numbers out of a line

@domingodeejayable 4 года назад

i think its preference. i myself is a full keyboard fan. i dont usually use them as numpad i bind them for something else and the enter key next to my right thumb is perfect.

@thundersheild926 4 года назад

I think I might have to try this. My desk is very limited in how much space I have on the right, but has tons of room on the left.

@EtherealoNe1 4 года назад

I love my numpad but at home i don't use it much. I would rather have the space I think. Tough choices.

@Perfidion 3 года назад

Yeah, the numpad is the business when it comes to numerical data entry (punching in account numbers without it sucks)... but otherwise, it's kind of redundant. I mean, when I'm not at work, the numpad on my Logitech is basically a dust trap.

@smievil 3 года назад

doesn't numpads feature most of the arrow keys and insert to pg-down button if you toggle numlock, could probably achieve something if you cut out arrow keys instead of the numpad it would be one more row of buttons though. paying stuff would be annoying without a numpad.

@haterhater6409 7 лет назад

Damit i bought a Master Keys Pro S, now I can't play tax accountant simulator my life is RUINED!!!!!!!!!

@haterhater6409 7 лет назад

wait no just realized i can just buy a 7 dollar USB numb pad off ebay........ guess i can play good old tax accountant simulator again

@MGBatman98 7 лет назад

lol

@ProjectMakeleio 6 лет назад

Hater Hater lol lol

@skepticmoderate5790 6 лет назад

Is that a real game?

@ballsweat5578 6 лет назад

skeptic moderate dude, you have the internet at your fingertips. USE IT!

@Coolmark123 7 лет назад

What perfect timing, I just got a TKL keyboard and I love it so much with more space :) thanks for the pros/cons.

@PCTechHub 7 лет назад

Nice video concept. I don't know where I stand on the subject TBH. I have a full size and have had full size KBs for a long time. I don't use the numpad very often but feel I'd miss it if it wasn't there. Truth is I would no doubt get used to working with out it. Think I'd have to try one for a while along side my full size one to see. Good job as ever dude

@warrenmoody 7 лет назад

I bought a tkl, and quickly learned how often I used that side enter.. It was tough getting used it, but I don't think I will go back. I love how much space I have now. Now that I think of it, my mouse has a button I never use. Maybe I could program it to function as an enter key!

@lucianodebenedictis6014 7 лет назад

Warren Moody for me it's the reverse: I want a tkl, but since i have a very nice full size, i learnt to use the enter in the numpad

@BankruptGreek 7 лет назад

Warren Moody that's weird I never used the enter or the numpad in my full sized keyboard.

@RetardedAsianGuy 7 лет назад

Warren Moody check out the CM masterkeys M or the Leopold fc980m

@warrenmoody 7 лет назад

Commissioner Johnson thanks for the suggestions! However, Ill probably just stick with what I have for the moment. I spent my budget on a new graphics card and monitor. It shouldn't take too long to develop new muscle memory..

@warrenmoody 7 лет назад

Different yes it is weird lol. I used it mostly when salvaging gear in D3.

@MexiChriS 5 лет назад

Holy crap, perfectly executed content and resource! Despite it being slightly old by now, still clear cut and to the point. Thank you!

@Animatedron 5 лет назад

Honestly, your ads are one of the best on RU-vid. Actually really enjoyable to watch! Keep up the great work. :)

@TheJedimaster6788 4 года назад

Yes they are right for me! I love having more desk space for my mouse and love having less sized keyboards! I never thought I would say that, but i went on the 10 keyless kick about a year ago...and never ever went back o.o they are ultra amazing and allow for so much for desk space, flexibility, mouse space and precision. AND the mouse is literally RIGHT THERE next to you and you press enter. i used the numpad maybe 3 percent of the time lol. it's great im never going back to the other ones

@xXCreezer 7 лет назад

I legit read Telekinesis keyboard

@JIMEE 6 лет назад

Giorgio Tomaselli ....

@kingk5827 4 года назад

Noob stop trying to start fights

@mdfida6642 3 года назад

Lel you dont even need to type

@paradoxgaming4484 3 года назад

Yooo same

@ovidiu_stan 3 года назад

It's Tekelinesis

@pedrocandela 7 лет назад

I really like all your videos: good information, elegant footages and very well edited. Congrats and greetings from Spain. I'll watch you in the next video :)

@jpg. 7 лет назад

gotta love the cinematography in these vids, so crisp

@jpg. 7 лет назад

But, I ordered my Pok3r today so...

@danf800 7 лет назад

Love my TKL and it's actually uncomfortable when I have to use a full sized keyboard. The prices used to be lower for TKL (which was logical) but then the manufacturers got onto it I guess...

@otterplays8156 7 лет назад

If one of the reasons for TKL is room/ergonomics, why have no Keyboard makers placed the numpad on the LEFT of the WASD?? Patent worthy

@ZymaPro 5 лет назад

Messes with people’s paradigm too much. Would probably start rebellions and WWIII.

@honeydew5022 5 лет назад

Weebaw Rip left handed people

@konseyy 4 года назад

Bit late, but look into the keyboards from Bloody A4tech, especially the b845

@TheHomerGE 4 года назад

some have removeable numpads. but i dont see any real advantage in placing it to the left. for normal writing it would be a hindrance and for gamer it would be same as macro keys. plus perhaps there are other people like me. even a small row of macro keys makes a keyboard damn uncomfortable for me.

@Catcrumbs 4 года назад

@@TheHomerGE it's pretty obvious what the advantage is: you get the ergonomics of TKL + mouse but the functionality of a 100%kb. The only downside compared to a traditional setup is getting used to using the numpad with your left hand.

@Alpha-uh3cq 6 лет назад

Love this channel great work very well put together keep em comin guys love youre accent bro greetings from germany

@thisistimmy 7 лет назад

Great video and cinematography as always! I have been wanting a smaller 60% keyboard myself like the HHKB, but they can get so expensive.

@jameshin01 5 лет назад

i remember the game "golden axe" that we play in PC. if your playing 2 players the player 1 uses the left side of the board and the player 2 uses the numpad. i guess that time full sized keyboards are useful in games lol

@Intel1502 7 лет назад

Just bought a KB Paradise V60 Mini with black gateron switches off Massdrop. It's a 60% board, so the function row, arrowkeys and pgup/down/home/del keys are under macros. Really happy to be sizing down from a Steelseries 6GV2!

@OrangeBroom 6 лет назад

Allen Chao Not better than a k95

@basshead. 6 лет назад

Useless crap. 75% keyboards are better if you want a small keyboard.

@chinmaydas4053 2 года назад

You discussed some very useful points.. thank you brother 👍👍

@jtchalatsis 6 лет назад

Aaaaand now I'm going for the Masterkeys Pro S with white leds. Thanks Dmitry!

@quantummaster5814 7 лет назад

I like using the number pad to input things such as my computer PIN or numerical input for different programs like Blender.

@Schaddn 7 лет назад

I don't know, I couldn't live without typing numbers quickly in the pad and having all my shortcuts on there D: But I do like the fact that you could save the space which I could need right now.

@CanuckGod 2 года назад

For me it's the latter reason that you listed that keeps me with full size keyboards - I have macros set to all the numkeys - and also the positive of having the numpad there for quick entry when I use it for that purpose (which isn't all that often, but it helps). I do also find myself using the side enter a fair bit too, so there's that.

@aprilshowers3008 7 лет назад

I've been using a tenkeyless for a few months, and it's been a lovely switch.

@irrelevantandunknown6495 7 лет назад

And I'm over here with a Vortex Pok3r RGB. Love it so much!!

@skullsaintdead 6 лет назад

"It also fits in your coat" I'm sold. Nice painting btw.

@Perfidion 3 года назад

Just remember, you need a concealed carry permit in certain states. State troopers take a very dim view of young people openly waving keyboards about with gay abandon. Someone could lose an eye.

@FOGoticus 6 лет назад

What is the name of the songs running in the background? The song running after 4 minutes is fucking lovely. I'd fall asleep on that.

@cr0wnest 7 лет назад

Been on TKL 87 keys for years and have never looked back. I currently use the Corsair K65 Rapidfire RGB, I love the small form factor on TKLs because it saves space on my cluttered desk, and it allows me to position my mouse closer to my keyboard.

@ashberic 5 лет назад

Bought a TKL keyboard and have been super happy with it (MX Brown + CoolerMaster MasterKeys Pro S). About 2 months later I started regretting it when college classes started up and I had a MS Access and MS Excel classes back to back so I grabbed a wireless numpad on Amazon for $8. Now that those classes are over, I re-mapped it to be a macro-pad. Thing is super useful and runs off 1 AAA battery.

@CrimzzJeza 7 лет назад

if i've never watched this, i would never knew how useful that side enter is

@parsastrife6629 6 лет назад

Harambabe I got used to not use it in only 2 days. And I'm never looking back at a full keyboard. TKL just makes everything so easier. And you don't have to pay for a numpad you barely use, assuming you're mostly gaming on your PC and don't enter too many numbers everyday.

@TheFPSTech 6 лет назад

Perhaps you have a button or two on your mouse you could use? The process would be even faster.

@OrangeBroom 6 лет назад

If you dont have a numpad i guess the corsair mouse with 10 keys on the side would be useful lol

@John009Doe 7 лет назад

these arguments make sens... for an english keyboard. Because on my french one for example I really need an numpad to write numbers without switching to caps to use the one over the letters because these are already used for our special letters such as éèçà and so on.

@WhathefrenchTV 7 лет назад

C'est vraiment chiant à ce point ? Parce que franchement je voulais acheter un tkl et je pense pas que c'est si problématique que ça en vrai ^^

@Tutoelectro1 6 лет назад

I hear you. I don't use French keyboards often but my gf is French and everytime I use her computer the numbers piss me off.

@hecquetvincent 6 лет назад

Imo master m is better for french ppl :)

@simonnice9030 7 лет назад

I used a TKL until I've started to work with programming seriously. Then I went back to my old Mionix ZIBAL 60, which I've found to be an absolute wonder. Solid build, perfect wristrest, and the full size is alot easier for me to code on than my TKL K65 ever was. Granted I do not use the numpad that often, but i find it alot easier than having a separate one connected to my computer whenever I'm paying bills and such. ALSO: Cherry MX black switches are totally underrated, as is this Mionix Zibal 60 keyboard.

@miguelagueda3928 7 лет назад

I've been using a TKL for about a year and I'm really happy with it. It's really portable and it takes very little space on my desk, since it's not that big. The lack of numpad hasn't been a big deal for me, but if I ever need it intensively I'll just get an external one, with the benefit of being able to place it wherever I want. You can even get them mechanical now, I've seen a few in places like massdrop.

@cpthippieholdaccount1303 7 лет назад

2:53 XL mousepads anyone?!

@HardwareCanucks 7 лет назад

the only way to go :D

@cpthippieholdaccount1303 7 лет назад

HardwareCanucks Approved

@ChaoticRenny 7 лет назад

Qck +?

@cpthippieholdaccount1303 7 лет назад

Renny I prefer QcK XL

@Montisaquadeis 7 лет назад

I am using a QCK mini cloth myself as its the only one that fits on my desk and even then my keyboard still sits on the left side of it slightly

@GurtTarctor 6 лет назад

I just have keyboards in pretty much every size now. I got the mech bug...

@basshead. 6 лет назад

My Siemens buckling spring keyboard is the best. It would be waste of money to buy another keyboard that isn't better than my own Siemens keyboard.

@victoryu6570 6 лет назад

Model M is better

@RafaSyed 4 года назад

Which one do you recommend?

@xZet 7 лет назад

Seriously, that was easily a million dollar ad. The quality, the idea, everything about it was amazing. The video was amazing too.

@mmetalfingers 7 лет назад

ive had my pro s rgb for 8 months and i love it so much

@kacperwoek6026 7 лет назад

Dmitri, a serious question Milk or cereal first?

@HardwareCanucks 7 лет назад

Cereal first man... don't be a savage!

@kacperwoek6026 7 лет назад

Anyway, great vid, those masterkeys pro smash the blackwidow x!

@swan777song 6 лет назад

Kacper Wołek If you don't put cereal first, how many milk are you gonna add?

@intothevortex7825 6 лет назад

Kacper Wołek its simple. Milk in first make cereal float and overflows bowl. Dang man. Gaming 101 cereal first 😂

@Trqderr 6 лет назад

Kacper Wołek Milk if you violate physics

@TeemoForLife 7 лет назад

Are compact (60%) keyboards right for you?

@Perfidion 3 года назад

Only if you have tiny hands and don't mind developing a hunchback after prolonged use.

@TheRikardo91 7 лет назад

I love TKL boards. I've owned a couple TKL's (currently using a CM Masterkeys Pro M RGB) and got used to them over and right now I can't force myself to go back to a fullsize anymore. :)

@Weredawg 7 лет назад

Picked up a TKL CM QuickFire with blues for $40. I swapped all of its key caps with white PBT front printed caps and now it's even better. Love it.

@rishabh.patel10 7 лет назад

Dmitry, are you bulgarian or canadian? I thought that at one point you lived in canada lol

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 6 лет назад

Rishabh Patel I believe he is russian but he lives in Canada

@arandomdudeontheinternet4199 5 лет назад

I'm bulgarian :P

@lyzenify 7 лет назад

what is the name of the keyboard at 1:45 ?

@kayamm 7 лет назад

Hey man as I was interested in the same keyboard as you, I just tried and googled fox keyboard (because of the key with a fox on it) and i found it. It's "WhiteFox keyboard" ;)

@xMaRFiNx 7 лет назад

I just get the Ozone Battle Spectra and simply love it!

@brettm4179 6 лет назад

Been using an HHKB Pro 2 for a few months now and I absolutely love the modified 60% layout. I really believe that smaller keyboards are more efficient especially when you get below 60% because of finger travel. If you look at keyboards like the HHKB keys like backspace are so much easier to hit

@tatualamartimo578 7 лет назад

Drinking game time.drink everytime Dimitri says tkl

@HardwareCanucks 7 лет назад

lmao... good luck!

@dova-pug7972 7 лет назад

Tatu Alamartimo my livers begging 4 mercy

@shiro5392 7 лет назад

Thought of doing a video on wrist rests?

@duckseverywhere8119 6 лет назад

Tatu Alamartimo whaa grate gaym!

@fahadus 6 лет назад

He never says TKL, he only says T-Key-L

@raghaf2007 7 лет назад

i wish there is a MOD keyboard where we can remove the "ten keys" part. & I don't care about the "FLEX" in the keyboard.

@azrael9301 7 лет назад

There is actually such keyboard. it's called Claymore by Asus. There are some comments on it being easily flexed due to the nature of detaching, but as you mentioned you don't care about it so you can definitely check it out :)

@BlahBlahBlah32500 7 лет назад

How about the Tesoro Tizona? They use Kailh switches and they don't seem to get many positive reviews but they have a usb port on the left and right sides where you can attach a numpad.

@Montisaquadeis 7 лет назад

The Tesoro Tizona is the ONLY keyboard I have been able to find that allows you to attach the keypad to the left. For me that would be the ideal side for the keypad as it allows me to move my hands closer when gaming and allow for mouse use when enter numbers which I do several times a day and kind of rely on my numpad but I just wish I could move it to the left which would be a much better spot for me. Also the Tesoro Tizona is pretty cheap with its starting price of $70 comapred to something like the Claymore which is $150 for just the core and $250-$290 for the full keyboard including the numpad.

@raghaf2007 7 лет назад

ЯeapeR I know about it bro :) ... it is much costlier right now.

@shstan96 6 лет назад

I think you will have a better time getting a separate numpad.

@tomaszakrocki8501 6 лет назад

I've actually found myself tilting my keyboard to get more comfort, this video has really convinced me to go to TKL, now I only need a recommendation for which one to get.

@kweenbeanhauau8763 6 лет назад

I've just got myself a TLK Keyboard. It's just perfect for my working environment. I switch between the keyboard & the mouse a lot. You are right about the Enter key. Suddenly I found out that I used that key a lot. But considering the comfort I have now, it's not a problem.

@nekidzemaili7372 7 лет назад

Hey Dimitri, are you bulgarian? You wear a martenica.

@beybladeguru101 7 лет назад

Neki Dzemaili I think he is Russian, since he spoke it in one video (albeit with a VERY distinct accent).

@Rambo454 7 лет назад

Neki Dzemaili Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he's Russian. Thogh he doesn't seem to have a Russian accent.

@dakrawnikg4480 7 лет назад

Dmitry. Canadian.

@unknown-otter 7 лет назад

Well, he has a russian surname, but idk

@HazmanFTW 6 лет назад

Why is it called a Ten Key Less though? You're missing out on like 17 keys not just 10.

@bananavroom3691 6 лет назад

You're removing the 10 numbers on the number pad (0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9) so it's called 10 Key Less.

@HazmanFTW 6 лет назад

I guess that makes sense

@saltypakoda5333 6 лет назад

Harry it sounds cool

@itstrisha6607 5 лет назад

Harry imagine calling it seventeenkeyless

@MybeautifulandamazingPrincess 5 лет назад

It's official, now it's called StKL

@imemyself2820 5 лет назад

Thannk you for this one. TKL is all new to me.

@BroodingPsycho 5 лет назад

Never tried one but I do use the numpad quite a lot so I don't really see myself getting one, but I can understand lots of people would like this over the traditional design. The thing is, I think, when it comes to sizes of things you can't ever go beyond a certain point without making sacrifices. I don't mind regular size keyboards, though. I have a tt eSports X1 and I'm loving it.

@TyrannoX42 6 лет назад

I’ve literally never had to use a numpad since the day I was old enough to use a keyboard. It’s a waste of space and I’m looking forward to upgrading to a TKL.

@leef9834 7 лет назад

I want a TKL with macros on the left..... HOW IS THIS NOT A THING

@shunrokujochigusa5458 3 года назад

redragon k587

@maamiimii 7 лет назад

My CM QuickFire TK was my first mechanical keyboard and my first TKL board and I have no plans on switching from this form factor at all. I love it! (prefer the numpad variant more though lol)

@JLUnboxed 7 лет назад

I actually have the Cooler Master MASTERKEYS PRO S tenkeyless and i frikkin love it! awesome keyboard

@igov1152 4 года назад

2:44 "yo bro i sell sum fuckin guud tkl keyboard wanna try one?"

@swedneck 7 лет назад

is that a keyboard in your pocket or are you happy to see me?

@Jahh_2s 7 лет назад

i have the masterkeys pro S and it is amazing to use. tame little to no space on the desk, great typing and really good ergonomics. teally great purchase.

@edmundorea8494 7 лет назад

I bought the Red Dragon Kumara Mechanical TKL keyboard about 5 months ago and have loved it so far. My desk isn't necessarily cluttered with stuff, so a full length keyboard wouldn't be in the way, but I find the compact design of TKL keyboards more appealing to me personally. I only use computer for gaming, social media, and school work, so the absence of the number pad isn't that much of an issue for me.

@HikingGO 7 лет назад

I spy with my little eye, a crumb at 2:30 on the home key!

@txmmymai3175 6 лет назад

But....how can I fly a plane in GTA V now ??

@ProjectMakeleio 6 лет назад

Jäger Main reprogramm the buttons

@pmiller7148 6 лет назад

my nem temmy your mouse...

@doinkbonksfx1212 6 лет назад

GTA is dying

@pmiller7148 6 лет назад

Anonymous User it’s actually growing. Do some research before commenting

@doinkbonksfx1212 6 лет назад

i bet you play nothing but gta

@ongxeno 7 лет назад

Using masterkey pro s, loving it. That right enter missing that you mention is damn on point. I keep hitting right arrow for enter all the time.

@descai10 7 лет назад

Rebind > to enter or ctrl+enter macro.

@jesusreignonhigh6732 7 лет назад

I love TKL. I got CoolerMaster's. Its almost 4 years since I bought it and still stand strong.

@FatBastardPipes 5 лет назад

In Soviet Russia, Tikiel keyboards you. 🤣

@Pytte 7 лет назад

umm .. entering numbers without a numpad is hell ? It's not even mentioned in this video?

@dogboy0912 7 лет назад

Pytte shhh, nobody uses computers to do any work involving lots of numbers

@sexycooljulesverne 7 лет назад

this, numpad saves so much time. TKL is trash for trendy losers

@AndrewSmall963 7 лет назад

4:42 "Moving on to the negatives... And don't even mention the lack of numpad..." TKL with a separate numpad is an option if you need to enter a lot of numbers occasionally, or prefer the numpad on the left-hand side.

@markotikvic 7 лет назад

Pytte how often do you enter keys? Two possible answers: a) very often - you should be proficient enough with top row as well as the numpad = no problem b) not often enough for you to care = no problem

@Walhor 7 лет назад

KeweKrypto 12 numpad is for peasants

@wonnie 7 лет назад

I use a Coolermaster Quickfire TK, and I really love the design of it. It has everything that I need and I wish more companies made this style of keyboard since you can have the size of a TKL but with the capabilities of a full size. But I am looking to explore some 68% sizes (like the poker sized with arrow keys), and it would cut out more fluff I don't need on keyboards on a daily driver.

@Zer0Skill_exe 4 года назад

just switched to a TKL, and yeah I do agree with your pros and cons, specially with the side enter. I still find myself trying to hit the Enter key with my thumb.

@darkfire565 7 лет назад

if you want a solid tkl keyboard get the corsair k65. perfect starter keyboard and cheap as well. if you want to get better quality go for masterkeys tkl. from there ducky or wasd. up2u.

@obzen33 7 лет назад

JU1 i have the k65 and it's great

@dova-pug7972 7 лет назад

JU1 £24 tkl mechanical keyboard here

@troutwrangler90 7 лет назад

I've got a k65 rgb on my main setup and a regular k65 on my gf's. they are excellent.

@jaredbowhay-pringle1460 7 лет назад

Savva Moser £60 or so is pretty cheap for a decent quality keyboard with genuine Cherry MX switches. I've had the K65 for a couple of years - after having played around with far more expensive options trying to find something I liked - and it's an excellent TKL.

@SugarFreeTargets 7 лет назад

If you want a solid TKL, get a Varmilo VA87. It's miles ahead of Corsair or _"gaming"_ keyboards.

@bernik64 7 лет назад

oh im early quick think of a joke apple

@quarkerson7607 5 лет назад

@elguapok20 7 лет назад

Love love love love my Quickfire TK (CM Storms). Best of both worlds. I'm good with a numpad so I'm glad it's still all there but my desk, the way it's laid out, doesn't give me much room for a keyboard, this was perfect.

@oooppiikkk 7 лет назад

love my tkl + mmo mouse with 12 buttons. perfect compromise, 100% form and function

@TheMr1Boy 7 лет назад

Corsair K65 Vengeance! Best tkl imo

@ThomasMoulden 7 лет назад

ITS SO CLEAN AND BEAUTIFUL AND I LOVE IT.

@MGBatman98 7 лет назад

i just received one its really good. but i'd love the rgb version too though:(

@itsoutlaw_ 6 лет назад

mo.guled Corsair k65 lux tkl has rgb if you need it

@Anekiii 6 лет назад

Ducky > Corsair

@Vincent-pd9vo 6 лет назад

ANekii hell yeah bro. Ducky one here

@Bradum 7 лет назад

This video feels like he's SUPER biased towards TKL keyboards.... "TKL Looks better on your desk" - Entirely subjective "Full Size will overlap with mousepad and be wobbly" - Uhh.. Only if you overlap them, and do so in a silly way... "Keyboard will be centered in front of your monitor" - Can still do that with a full size, and if it's off center, so what? "TKL keyboards have better build quality" - Uhhh.... wat? "Don't even mention the missing num pad" - Uhh.. Yeah.. Let's just gloss right over the biggest disadvantage. Who ever types numbers in their computer anyways? Absolutely no mention of the fact that TKL keyboards are more often missing media and macro keys. TKLs have their place, but this video should be titled "Why I Like TKL Keyboards" and not passed off as advice for others.

@Bradum 7 лет назад

Nope.

@greentea_vsrg 7 лет назад

You have an entire number row above your qwerty row.

@SteveSunny 6 лет назад

How on earth can you center a non-tkl keyboard in front of your monitor? Please do tell me. Also, the reason why I went with a tkl keyboard personally is so that I could center my keyboard in front of my monitor. I found it was a real pain in the butt whenever I wanted to start typing but my left hand and right hand would be at completely different lengths away from the keyboard thereby making my typing experience absolutely abysmal.

@Balot_Rune 6 лет назад

while I would agree that TKL looking better on your desk is subjective, the point of having a full size keyboard centered and having no issues is not always the case as it more often than not depends on the size of your monitor and having the keyboard centered can help you to feel less tired after spending hours typing something (not to mention the streches you should do on a regular basis), the point of better build quality is just for the fact that they flex less during transportation - but that is an irrelevant point to you isn't it? the missing num pad is the whole reason you would consider a TKL board and not a medium sized one he mentioned at the start of the video. he also DID mention the lack of dedicated media controls as for macro keys - they don't belong on a keyboard you would get only for the reason of having a minimalist setup (which he is mainly focusing his attention on in the video anyways)

@chrisulrich2969 6 лет назад

Steve Sunny you put it in the middle maybe? Idiot

@LovezHD 7 лет назад

love my filco majestouch 2 tkl, would recommend

@franklinnash 5 лет назад

I own the Corsair K63 mechanical TKL gaming keyboard and I absolutely love it. I will never go back to a full sized keyboard ever again.

@troletrain 7 лет назад

GIMME SOME ROOOOM! LEMME GET SOME AIR TAIME! GET DA FUUUUUUUK OUT DA WHEY!

@Anekiii 6 лет назад

Lame.

@As5Hat 6 лет назад

not worth getting a TKL IMO, removes versatility. also, he did not mention anything about doing any sort of math or school work. It's terrible using a TKL. you NEED that Num pad to be entering a large volume of numbers! torture without and shit tons of mistakes due to the spread. Also, this review was horrible as this guy was obviously extremely biased towards TKL. he should have titled it "Why i think TKL keyboards are better." DERRR

@andresgv10 6 лет назад

Good point. Also, now that I stopped to think about it, typing numbers with the numpad is much faster that using the row.

@WiseJefe 6 лет назад

That’s why these are meant for strictly gaming purposes and mostly esports athletes use them.

@Nanorisk 6 лет назад

You want versatility then get a separate number pad, you even have the option to tuck it away when you dont need it.

@E_Proxy 6 лет назад

Nanorisk and there are a lot of wireless numpads. So one doesnt even need more cables

@anna_arw6006 6 лет назад

i think its good for students because dorms will have less room for peripherals

@GyroCannon 7 лет назад

I have a $40 TKL keyboard from DREVO (I just wanted to see if mechanical keyboards were worth the hype). I love the small form factor of this thing. The smaller distance between mouse and typing thing should not be underestimated. It feels so good to just hop from mouse to keyboard with so much less effort.

@Digmen1 5 лет назад

Great video Dmitri. I am just an old guy that wants to type word docs etc, I do not game. So I just want a simple TKL keyboard with no lights etc. But as you say, they are so hard to find. And they are so dear. I love my Microsoft wired 600 keyboard but it just takes up too much room on my desk. I hope the trend is towards TKL, then they might make more of them at better prices.

@bigmofo1122 7 лет назад

TKL are stupid (i own one). What we really need is 'lefty keyboard', where they arrow part and the numpad part are on the left side. Having these extra key on the right side made sense before the mouse. But fully removing them is stupid because we could just move them to the right side instead. HardwareCuck, find us decent lefty mechanical keyboards and do a review. I would disable my ads block for this.

@MGBatman98 7 лет назад

dude leftys can use regular keyboards. design wise it's just weird to have the arrows on the left side.

@bigmofo1122 7 лет назад

That is just your preference. Having arrow on the left side is not 'weirder' than not having them at all. I'll rather have room for the mouse where the arrow/numpad are... and have the arrow/numpad on the left side in case i ever need them.

@retrocomputing 7 лет назад

DSI Left Handed USB Keyboard

@francomattioda8155 7 лет назад

But by moving the arrows and the numpad to the left, the keyboard length remains the same, so you wouldn't gain any extra mouse room. (I'm a lefty myself, and did fine all my life with regular full sized keyboards. I just got a K65 and I'm looking it)

@bigmofo1122 7 лет назад

"But by moving the arrows and the numpad to the left, the keyboard length remains the same" Irrelevant because you center the keyboard on the space bar. Whatever hang over the other side don't matter. As long as there are 'close to' center room for the mouse on the other side.

@ramonrios9271 7 лет назад

You know what they say about the size of your keyboard, amirite? (A: that is really good to have a small one for your compact desk) I'm always hitting it with the mouse when I'm gaming, so this video actually make me choose a TKL keyboard for my next upgrade! Keep it up with the useful videos man, thanks so much!

@TheTolsonator 7 лет назад

Got into the idea of a TKL thanks to Corsair and their K70, but after dealing with some design issues (personal, not functional) I sold the K70 and got the CoolerMaster Pro Key S and have loved it ever since. Super compact, saves space and just feels amazing. I *HIGHLY* recommend getting a TKL for saving space. Yes I still miss the numpad but you can always get a cheapo bluetooth one with a dongle and have that on the side for when you're number crunching like a madman.

@terminatedtag930 7 лет назад

He's using those senhiser momentum wireless ear phones that he did an add spot on.a nice 🐣

@zenzuken 7 лет назад

I always thought I would never like having no num pad. But I never really thought about those points brought up here. I might look into it.

@elRiku00 6 лет назад

I bought my friend's old Razer widowmaker tournament edition 2014 for 40€ and I love it!

@Drinkyoghurt 7 лет назад

I've never had any issues with full size keyboard spacing though. Feels pretty natural to me and I love having the numpad even though I hardly ever do excel work.

@AmgadMakarem 7 лет назад

If you don't mind me asking what lighting, camera, lens you're using and also what video editing software you use while editing your videos

@arbalestt4590 7 лет назад

this is my 12 years with tkl, can't live without it

@danielisbell 7 лет назад

I like a TKL for couch gaming, but I'm still too reliant on the number pad to make the switch elsewhere. For me, I think the ideal solution would be a left-handed number pad. It would also allow me to enter numbers while still keeping my right hand on the mouse. Maybe I'll eventually move to a TKL with a separate number pad. Of course, I'm still using a G13 & macro keys on my main keyboard as well, so it might just end up being too much on the left.

@WilfredoWolganG 5 лет назад

I didn't realize how interesting keyboards were till I watched a couple of your videos.

@iTzDaNiiLo 7 лет назад

I bought a TKL keyboard and even though I loved it and the build quality was exceptional, I quickly found myself missing the numpad and the side enter. Then, I grabbed a CMStorm QuickFire TK and I have never gone back. I really suggest getting a KB like the MasterKeys Pro M shown at 1:25

@akikleist 7 лет назад

I have Ozone Strike Battle, which is TKL keyboard I bought spontaneously both because I used to only play when visiting cousin with a laptop and it was cheap. I never regretted the decision. It's sturdy and reliable, it comes with a software, but it doesn't required to use it. Other than that, i'm thinking of upgrading to Logitech G Pro TKL

@RW3132000 7 лет назад

I switched to a Leopold FC750r with MX reds and it is so much nicer and more ergonomic than my previous full-sized board. Looks way better too, like Dimitri said.

@falsecatalyst3936 5 лет назад

In my country, there's a company named vortex series that primarily makes gaming chairs, but they also made this tkl keyboard which costs like 50 bucks, and it had 3 versions, one with Gateron, Outemu, and Cherry switches, the Gateron and Outemu versions are cheaper than the Cherry boards, but the cherry boards are still quite affordable.

@maksim9612 7 лет назад

I've got Poker3 for work and Leopold TKL for home.Very useful things.Especially with PBT keycaps.

@m4j1kn1nj4 7 лет назад

tkl is awesome for gaming. like you pointed out about hand spacing. you should have mentioned if you need the best of both worlds you can get the numb pad as a separate keyboard and bring it out when needed.

@bradleibel1125 7 лет назад

I quite like my Claymore Core, I have the cherry Red version, and being my first red keyboard I was very surprised, the thing comes with a velvet like carry case and the best part imo is the ability to system boot, change fan speed, ram OC right from the keyboard (pretty sure only if you have an Asus motherboard though, correct me if I'm wrong) I love the keyboard, it's comfortable and looks sexy as hell 👍🏼

@ABlackPatriot 7 лет назад

I got the Razer Chroma X Tournament Edition (with is TKL). It's got a metal plate and it feels great. Sold my Corsair Strafe RGB for it. Never looked back. I love it.