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Are The Mercury 600 V12 Outboards Worth The PRICE TAG?! 

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This video is for Education purposes and gives my opinion and commentary on Mercury's 600 V12 Verados.
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@LifeOffshore
@LifeOffshore 3 года назад
Do you think these motors are worth $77k each?
@dreed1140
@dreed1140 3 года назад
NOPE!
@GeraldPUR
@GeraldPUR 3 года назад
No. But still very interesting
@dieseldog00
@dieseldog00 3 года назад
My question is why is this motor so heavy? Do the N/A V12 car engines weigh 1250lbs??? If Merc could get the V12's weight down to, say, 900lbs, smaller boats like the 30'-40' cats could run them.
@SoFloCamejo
@SoFloCamejo 3 года назад
@@dieseldog00 It’s got two gearboxes and integrated electronic steering. The steering system alone should take up at least 100lbs +/-, the 2 speed zF transmission and the whole rotating assembly for the lower units must be at least 2-300lbs. As they get heavier, more features are crammed in, for 77K along with many other features and benefits they come with. I believe they’re worth it, especially with the features and benefits that merc hasn’t spoken about yet
@TheOlRazzleDazzler
@TheOlRazzleDazzler 3 года назад
@@SoFloCamejo your comment was more informative than the video. Thx and agree. Got the whole engine/transmission/and steering system in one.
@MrDavidelliottjr
@MrDavidelliottjr 3 года назад
I made 77k crawfishing last year. Ima put one of these on my crawfishijg skiff. Hell yeah brother. 🇺🇲💪🇺🇲💪🇺🇲🤣🤣👍🤟🤟🤟🤟
@jimcole2648
@jimcole2648 3 года назад
Merc has been developing these for a while on the hush. They done extensive testing. These motors are built well. The only long term issue they may have is the lower half with the turning mechanism. As long as these are serviced regularly, they should be good. For the price, the buyer would have no issues to keep them maintained by a servicing company. People who buy and expect maintenance free will be in a big surprise as Merc may pick and choose coverage and abuse.
@A.B.-zs8ir
@A.B.-zs8ir 2 года назад
No matter what, these V12 600 's are truly an amazing piece of work! just bcuz i can't afford something doesn't mean i can't appreciate it, Bravo for the great vlog.
@Harikarikillboy-fs5vl
@Harikarikillboy-fs5vl 7 месяцев назад
I can appreciate a Bugatti but done have one, and I’m glad they’re made!
@wrzl1675
@wrzl1675 3 года назад
If the Mercury ends in “R” it’s meant to do one thing, go fast, and go fast comes high maintenance and issues and thats just the go fast world. You don’t buy a Ferrari for it’s reliability ( you’re going to be very disappointed ). As a mechanic and drag racer, the big problems with V12 cars is 1. Wrapped heads ( blown head gaskets). 2 Due to the incredibly long oil pan, oil starvation can be an issue under high G acceleration and turns. How these issues will play out with a vertically mounted V12, who knows, but I won’t be rushing out to buy them any time soon. As for Yamaha and Mercury reliability, Yamaha is only rated at 2% better reliability than Mercury…. Not even worth mentioning, it’s so close. Mercury just gets a bad rap because people buy a 350R-400R or 450R thinking it’s going to be a low maintenance pleasure boating motor…. Rookie stupidity, not Mercury’s fault.
@fishbluewater
@fishbluewater 3 года назад
We saw them upclose and spoke with one of the reps from mercury at the boat show. Great info we were able to get from him.
@KenMacCormac
@KenMacCormac 3 года назад
Love you videos, I totally agree about the transmission and lower unit being the most likely sources of problems. For the sake of progress, I hope everything works out for Mercury. As a Yamaha fan, I want to see them get pushed to make a higher-performing and bigger HP outboard...
@SoFloCamejo
@SoFloCamejo 3 года назад
Coming from a Mercury fan, I want to see Yamaha and Suzuki start cranking out some competition to the bigger mercs. Competition drives the industry
@frankdieber7090
@frankdieber7090 2 года назад
Iv raced in the water and land my hole life. The nice thing about Yamaha is you can put a lot of power to stock components and it’ll take it all day and love it. I’m a Yamaha lover. But when it comes to speed Mercury has it hands down. They might have to rebuild in between motos but there fast.
@knuckledragger2412
@knuckledragger2412 3 года назад
No outboard is worth the money, yet we need them so we buy them🤷‍♂️
@Matthew-ud3nq
@Matthew-ud3nq 2 года назад
Agreed. The price tag on them is absurd these days
@Makermook
@Makermook 2 года назад
I built a 17' skiff this summer. When I priced small outboard motors, I decided instead to build it with an inboard motor that cost me $179. I figure I saved at least a grand.
@waterborne4072
@waterborne4072 2 года назад
Best answer ever
@stevechaconjr941
@stevechaconjr941 3 года назад
Short; straight to the point 👌 Interesting engine. They will need to stand behind it -warranty wise.
@GeorgeBonez
@GeorgeBonez 2 года назад
I think they are worth it for those who can afford it. They are incredibly expensive right now but you have to take into account all the research, development and tooling their factories to get this innovative monster in the water! It’s much much more than just a BIG motor! It’s a Big motor, 2 speed trans, moving lower plus all of the technology to bring it together. I give Mercury 5 Stars ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ For getting this beast to market!
@LetSeamru
@LetSeamru 3 года назад
Keep doing guys, really informative 👍
@rogermonte6645
@rogermonte6645 3 года назад
Awesome video, straight to the point with all the info we wanted and needed 👍
@conradhenninger2209
@conradhenninger2209 3 года назад
Well done! great video. Good range of thoughts and always going back to accepting that newer is better, because innovation is survival! But always noting it must be designed and tested properly for weaknesses. Keep them coming!
@daveedvalds3326
@daveedvalds3326 2 года назад
Great to see many decades great products coming from Mercury Marine. RIP Evinrude/ Johnson. In the 1950/60’s Mercury leadership used to burn Johnson outboards at the stake at company BBQ’s. They continue to push performance of marine products as they have for years. Long live the tradition of Kiekhaefer Mercury!
@logandeck6575
@logandeck6575 2 года назад
DUDE!!!... Bravo!! This video was ABSOLUTE perfection!
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 3 года назад
The thing about inboards for me is this. My days of money being no object are past, I can rebuild an IB V8 at home in my workshop in a few days and the transmission is both simple and relatively bombproof. Outboards are a different story, much more technical and a heap of special tools needed. I could pick up an old Cigarette or Donzi with flogged motors cheap and rebuild a pair of 800hp big blocks for 10 grand in parts (I can handle most if not all of the machining in-house), I can't do that with 4 450Rs. Now I know that doesn't apply to the folk buying 77k OBs but it's a factor for me.
@edwardmylnychuk5774
@edwardmylnychuk5774 2 года назад
i whole heartedly agree but those of us that can rebuild motors are far and in between, i used to rebuild my own car motors etc etc and i had family members that were professional in awe of some of the work i done on my vehicles, i hope people have deep pockets with these new motors because most will be tooooo negligent in keeping them maintained like many vehicles regardless of make or size, i learnt the hard way, maintain or spend money to fix.
@angrydragonslayer
@angrydragonslayer Год назад
@@edwardmylnychuk5774 it's definetly a dying ability, the amount of people in my generation capable of doing it is maybe 1/4 of gen X (still almost twice as many as millenials but well... millenials) and gen X have half as many as the boomers
@eliakimbenishchayil
@eliakimbenishchayil 3 года назад
Just getting back into boating man, andI like your videos
@Burroughsbikebuilds
@Burroughsbikebuilds 3 года назад
You should really do more informative videos like this. This was really enlightening.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
The offshore Center Console market has been the only double digit growth segment in the entire marine industry since 2009. And tbh Merc and Yamaha dominate it. Mercury's timing with this is brilliant
@rdlangston13
@rdlangston13 3 года назад
And they released it right after Volvo announced that it was discontinuing the 7 Marine brand which is really the only competition to these motors
@richardbarkeriii7169
@richardbarkeriii7169 2 года назад
@@rdlangston13 |
@wtdistgeil97
@wtdistgeil97 3 года назад
The 2 Speed is from ZF, there shouldn‘t be any Problems with it.
@sam_s_
@sam_s_ 2 года назад
ZF is top notch. I love the ZF8 8n my truck.
@alexnutcasio936
@alexnutcasio936 2 года назад
Tell that to 1/2 million recalled 9 speed trans owners.
@rockydubois1052
@rockydubois1052 2 года назад
@@sam_s_ same here!
@RaddestDad
@RaddestDad 2 года назад
@@alexnutcasio936 500k recalls is small this day and age.
@h.machado5666
@h.machado5666 Год назад
ZF is on top of gearbox world. For inshore. Not sure if they have the same for offshore
@C5drummer
@C5drummer 3 года назад
Interesting channel...pieces of other websites videos, a microphone, and an opinion on all the videos! Educational purposes. NICE!
@LifeOffshore
@LifeOffshore 3 года назад
Thanks
@brandonbooth101
@brandonbooth101 3 года назад
I like your Channel man, It's good stuff!
@Thayer_slayer97
@Thayer_slayer97 Год назад
Love the content keep it up!!❤
@Bulldog-vc7ho
@Bulldog-vc7ho 3 года назад
Biggest concern i’m hearing is the lower unit and the issues that could develop, give them a few years and they will have them dialed in with little or no issues. Thinking about putting one on my 23’ CC, lol
@user-rx4tu5dk1u
@user-rx4tu5dk1u 2 года назад
1250lbs on the back of a 23?
@brokenfingers8151
@brokenfingers8151 3 года назад
I worked for Intrepid power boats n have to say they started with inboards n switched to outboard for the performance n less weight etc I recall when they put 2 7 marines on a 38ft n clocked in the gulf at over 100
@charlestaylor3434
@charlestaylor3434 3 года назад
Props my dude! Well made videos. Where the are all the subscribers?
@jeduardo38
@jeduardo38 3 года назад
Thank you for sharing.
@Ilikebourbonalot
@Ilikebourbonalot 3 года назад
I want to see 6 of these bad boys on anything! Please please!!! I’m 🙏
@richmac918
@richmac918 Год назад
I've had Mercs (both I/O's and outboards), Evinrude, Johnson, Force, Yamaha, you name it and with rare exception I can tell you that most issues are owner related. Anyone can own a boat but most owners are completely ignorant about how engines work and as a result have no idea what to do to maintain or operate them and the less they know the worse this becomes. Your initial comment about both I/O's and outboards having pros and cons is spot on. Twenty years ago the pros and cons were pretty balanced. Today, with the exception of an I/O maybe giving the boat better lines or more space on the swim platform, there really isn't much that ends up in the pros column. I have an I/O now but my next boat will be an outboard for certain.
@Chris_In_Texas
@Chris_In_Texas 3 года назад
At $77K that is about 60% the price of the old 7 Marine 627 at about $130K each.
@davidbrassfield6358
@davidbrassfield6358 2 года назад
Good to hear you buddy! I was wondering where you went!
@patmason7276
@patmason7276 2 года назад
Yes they are one bad ass outboard. Love to have one for our boat. SMOOTH!!!
@fishbluewater
@fishbluewater 3 года назад
Keep up the great work
@TheBeingReal
@TheBeingReal Год назад
There are some points to consider: the boat you buy today with the multiple matching outboards may and likely will not have that same looking outboard a few years down the road if you need to replace one. That fancy boat will look like a turd with non-matching motors. So instead of buying one, you might need to buy 2,3 or 4+ more. Look at the Formula 500SS with these 600hp engines. Depending on cruise speed, 70-100gph burn. A similar sized boat with Volvo IPS diesels will be at 30gph. Few people are intetested in a 50mph boat ride for an hour or more. Beat you up good! One also loses the potential to carry a dinghy. They are impressive motors and really quiet.
@ssgpentland8241
@ssgpentland8241 Год назад
I for one am happy to see this innovation in outboards. Ever since I first 7Marine 557, I knew the world had changed. Saddly, 7Marine was bought out by Volvo...who then decided to end production l so my personal dreams of owning one was forever dashed. However, NOW I can aspire to have a boat with two of these outboards behind her some day
@mercman2.5
@mercman2.5 2 года назад
Like with any new tech, there will be problems, how Mercury handles these issues is the key, Mercury is taking their place as the leader in outboard technology and innovation. My choice will always be a Mercury outboards over any inboard. First Merc was a Mark 75 in 1962, currently own 2.
@ZoneTelevision
@ZoneTelevision 2 года назад
For maintenance and care free boating especially in the Sport fishing arena, you cannot even put OB in the same the category as Diesels. You can cross oceans with Diesels many times over. The Old Detroits and Cats are total beasts when it comes to longevity + performance. Also Diesels tend towards being infinitely more fuel efficient and Diesel fuel is prolific most everywhere.
@joedmac78
@joedmac78 3 года назад
people who can afford these motors aren't worried about it
@s0nnyburnett
@s0nnyburnett 3 года назад
exactly
@victoreous626
@victoreous626 2 года назад
True, especially true when they are getting .6 miles per gallon.
@hankschrader149
@hankschrader149 3 года назад
Great video boss man!
@matthewholzmueller6292
@matthewholzmueller6292 3 года назад
Definitely worth the money... As long it's some other dudes money.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
The offshore Center Console market has been the only double digit growth segment in the entire marine industry since 2009. And tbh Merc and Yamaha dominate it. Mercury's timing with this is brilliant
@petersgarage6125
@petersgarage6125 3 года назад
Agree. My pockets aren't deep enough. If you need to know how much they cost there's a good chance you cant afford it.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
On a $$$ per hp basis this Verado 600 is priced right in line with the Yamaha 425 XTO. And considerably less than the 7Marine 625. I’m happy that Mercury has the drop on the Japanese with an innovative product made in the USA.
@escaladeEXTon28s
@escaladeEXTon28s 2 года назад
Wow I was happy with a 21’ astro bass boat with a 150hp evinrude!!! Was even happier when I sold it for $3k
@connordannelley5734
@connordannelley5734 2 года назад
awesome vid man!
@lightningstrikestwice6302
@lightningstrikestwice6302 2 года назад
The engine for the 1% is here! Got to appreciate the technology. 600 horsepower out of 12 little pistons. That is pretty amazing. That's formula One stuff!
@1v1qsns
@1v1qsns 2 года назад
Not at all but for an outboard it’s very impressive. Almost every manufacture in the last 20 years who wanted over 600 out of a V12 got it.
@yeetusdeletus9
@yeetusdeletus9 2 года назад
@Blake Hoekzema 2 stroke f1 cars? what planet do you live on
@sbrunner69
@sbrunner69 2 года назад
These are 4 stroke outboards.
@thanestewart2246
@thanestewart2246 Месяц назад
I love it, an engine for the 1% ers. Lol
@literallyshaking8019
@literallyshaking8019 3 года назад
I can’t wait for someone to take the V12 out of one of these and swap it into a car. Hopefully Mercury Racing gets their hands on these and offers a supercharged version with a more free flowing, less muffled exhaust so we can actually hear it.
@mercman2.5
@mercman2.5 2 года назад
That would be a Monster...
@jpogigtxcr1778
@jpogigtxcr1778 2 года назад
My Miata is waiting for someone who can fit a transmission with it.
@MariaMoreno-er5ch
@MariaMoreno-er5ch 3 года назад
Great video !
@Random-rt5ec
@Random-rt5ec 3 года назад
They look awesome & if I were a member of the 1% who could afford them I would own them.
@elliotbarron4913
@elliotbarron4913 2 года назад
😂 always had good luck with yamaha mx bikes but had 2x Yamaha outboards now and they both blew up n had endless issues.... bought a merc and no issues at all 👌
@awnikaloti7393
@awnikaloti7393 3 года назад
I love this video excellent
@brayansanchez190
@brayansanchez190 3 года назад
Lets gooooo 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 Год назад
My last boat was 26 ft long, 400 horsepower Yanmar diesel... I got a word for somebody who hangs a bunch of outboards on the back of a boat. Dwight, Good Seamaritan Rescue since 1958... Good stuff, thanks for posting. PS. At almost 80 years old I'm officially out of the Volunteer Rescue Boating business... Go buy a Boat US plan.😊
@jonathanrath2627
@jonathanrath2627 3 года назад
this video was lit! worth it of course g.
@Zach-ue3wp
@Zach-ue3wp 3 года назад
underated chanel
@willraefpv
@willraefpv 3 года назад
Facts
@coronalight77
@coronalight77 3 года назад
No he's off on a few things and the presentation was garbage. No technical specs or in person reviews. He basically took vids and pics from the internet and slapped them together and gave a middleschool quality book report on it. This channel is not gonna go far lol.
@Zach-ue3wp
@Zach-ue3wp 3 года назад
@@coronalight77 if you don't appreciate the content get the hell out a here lol
@olddiver
@olddiver 11 месяцев назад
Superb review! I am an old Merc’ guy… for a half century. Nothing wrong with Yamaha…. but for bigger outboards , my experience favors Mercury all the say. And I agree… way too many lower unit problems … with all brands are caused by high speed cavitation when in and out of water. No lower unit, standard or racing is made for that high RPM level frequently.
@ririshow
@ririshow 2 года назад
I have always wondered about the weight of these big outboards right at the very back of the craft!
@clivebuirski
@clivebuirski 2 года назад
excellent view of the new motor
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад
2 Cummins diesels... 'Nuff said!!!... Thanks for posting... especially for the nimrods that don't know any better... or have more money than they know what to do with... And would like three or four status symbols hanging off their transom... SMH
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
Except that the inboard market is on life support. That's why Viking started Valhalla. The big luxury offshote Center Console market is on fire.
@dwightbernheimer331
@dwightbernheimer331 3 года назад
@@petersouthernboy6327 I'm 80 years old... been operating a volunteer rescue Boat Service since 1958 started with a 13-foot Boston Whaler. Good Seamaritan Rescue... we still have some two-stroke outboards and some inboard diesels... LOL
@daniels2761
@daniels2761 3 года назад
@@petersouthernboy6327 that isn't really true. For sportfishing boats, outboards get in the way (fishing is done off the rear), for pleasure boats you can't have a rear swim platform. For people those things don't matter to, outboards work great.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
@@daniels2761 - Let’s take the famous Viking Sportfishing Yachts. If you order a Viking 72 Convertible with MTU diesel inboards - you’ll get it in 9 months. If you order a Valhalla (Viking’s Center Console Company) V-46 - you’ll wait 2 Years. The wait for the Scout 530 LXF is 4 years.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
@@daniels2761 - it’s important for you not to let your own personal subjective biases get in the way of facts. The only double digit growth segment in the entire marine industry since 2009 has been high HP outboard Center Console offshore boats.
@tbear68-
@tbear68- 3 года назад
For certain clamp-on guys, this is super cool. For performance I/O people, this doesn't affect their world at all. I am of the latter. They do some neat R&D up north, but I won't be using it.
@rdlangston13
@rdlangston13 3 года назад
Almost every HCB 65 Estrella I have seen had 5 7-Marine 627s on the back so I don't really for them going with 3 Merc 600s. Most customers, when you're already spending that much, will think another $150,000 for 5 motors instead of 3 is not much of an added expense for the bling factor.
@delawareteacher1182
@delawareteacher1182 3 года назад
In my dreams I am getting one tonight!
@yamaha188zt
@yamaha188zt Год назад
The down sides to outboard #1 the price #2 they're in the way If I'm paying for an expensive boat I don't want to have to a big motor in my way. Some people like them but that's my freshwater opinion.
@Profabdesigns
@Profabdesigns 3 года назад
If Merc came out with a dual prop, I think it will set them a part easily. The Yamaha and Suzuki both have 350 DP packages, and have a slight edge on Merc. I know Formula specifically built the SSR500 around the Merc 600Hp power, but I still think a contra rotating dual prop would be more efficient.
@thedeanofbacon5270
@thedeanofbacon5270 2 года назад
These, and other large displacement outboards are good for short range, fiberglass day boats. You will always need diesel powered shaft drives for long range sea travel.
@matthutch4216
@matthutch4216 2 года назад
And also for anyone who doesn't want the obstruction of an outboard motor on there stern. For fishing or water sports or whatever the case.
@thedeanofbacon5270
@thedeanofbacon5270 2 года назад
@@matthutch4216 the entire south Florida boating scene has serious tunnel vision with regard to center consoles and outboard motors. It is obvious to an outsider.
@johncunningham4820
@johncunningham4820 2 года назад
IF , big if ,those gearboxes are reduction for " Out of the Hole " and Locked up DIRECT in Cruise/Plane mode , reliability can be REAL good . The Steerable Leg SEALS may present problems however . Price isn't too bad considering this is basically a Lamborghini Engine for the Water . TIME WILL TELL . BTW , Marinized Turbo-Diesels with Jet drives are VERY Fast , Fuel efficient and Reliable . Ocean Racers think so .
@jaymiami5813
@jaymiami5813 2 года назад
That's a lot of money for an outboard I really love my Yamaha 300 my engine has 2000 hours 2018 Yamaha 300 and still runs like a champ on a 23 ft Albury Brothers
@Geodreamcatcher
@Geodreamcatcher 3 года назад
it's on a way or another.... if we compare the price/hp at all outboards is almost reasonable.
@chowtimewithruss1411
@chowtimewithruss1411 3 года назад
Great Video.
@Eric_412
@Eric_412 2 года назад
i did my apprenticeship in Australian with Mercury, i really loved my trade but with the way the technology and price has impacted on the marine industry i’m glad i become a coal miner..more money and less headaches..
@johnedwards5516
@johnedwards5516 2 года назад
I bet the pay is good in the mines but I would get too claustrophobic! Would you prefer to work topside on outboards if the job stability was there?
@johnedwards5516
@johnedwards5516 2 года назад
I bet the pay is good in the mines but I would get too claustrophobic! Would you prefer to work topside on outboards if the job stability was there?
@RESET1776
@RESET1776 3 года назад
The issue I see is trust. After all Mercury is rather famous for (change) then another dose of (change) while leaving the previous customer with non supported equipment.
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 2 года назад
Seems to be a lot of old Mercury outboards out there, even OMC that has been down the bankruptcy road a few times.
@Jay_Dahl
@Jay_Dahl 2 года назад
You're asking the wrong question. With this class of outboard, it's all about snob appeal, not the cost.
@nealriordan6802
@nealriordan6802 Год назад
Lots of advantages having outboards!
@scottleggejr
@scottleggejr 3 года назад
People keep raving about the efficiency and power and technology, but if you know anything about the car world, these motors aren't shit. Automobiles have been putting out more power per cubic inch for at least a decade now and more reliable. I am an inboard guy because of the reliability and not having all that junk hanging off the back of the boat to tangle lines and chopping up swimmers. Putting a small turbo on an LS with a direct drive will get better efficiency than these units. Add two if you want redundancy. If you go back in your time machine, direct drives (dd) have always been king due to efficiency and the bad fuel economy stigma from outboards is oooooold, but there are basic fluid dynamics that can't be overcome. Putting 4 outboards to make the power of one or two engines is stupid to cover the entire stern of a center console built for fishing. The only point you make which makes any sense is draft, but good electronics can save you from that and the big fish aren't in 2' of water.
@johnmueller155
@johnmueller155 3 года назад
I have to agree with all points you made I think you could put an inboard for $77,000 you could do an awful lot of work to it and get that kind of horsepower and still put some money in your pocket
@skipperthestone5344
@skipperthestone5344 3 года назад
If I’m not mistaken those 600s have pod drive technology and pod drives have been around for a while made by zf and Volvo. Merc has had the Zeus drive for some time now also the 2 speed transmission is also nothing new either mercury has messed with those in the past
@jkxelor1295
@jkxelor1295 2 года назад
Baddest ass outboards I’ve ever seen
@anthonysiegel4685
@anthonysiegel4685 3 года назад
Great info.. maybe other models will get cheaper
@fullsendmarinedarwin7244
@fullsendmarinedarwin7244 2 года назад
Subbed. nice video
@perceive8159
@perceive8159 Год назад
I'm convinced, I'll get four and one as a spare 😄
@dannysdailys
@dannysdailys Год назад
I think you're worried about nothing. Mercury Marine has run these things through all kinds of conditions and 10's of thousands of hours. They can probably tell you almost exactly how long they'll last. The biggest drawback is the very heavy weight which you didn't even mention. I know a guy who recently spec'd out a 39 foot MSI Cat. This is a 1.2 million dollar boat so the boat itself is very light weight. So light the engine weight is critical. His terms for an engine, no matter the brand, was the lowest weight to hp ratio and he tested every brand. The lowest ratio would provide the highest top speed, all things being equal. Suzuki was surprisingly good, especially for the price but for that boat, the 450R gave the lowest weight per hp ratio by a long shot. Even the 400R was much worse. The weight was almost the same, but for a pair of them, they were down a full 100hp than the 450R. So it wasn't even a close call, the 450R's were far superior for this application. It'll go 140 mph on those two little outboards, and you can run them wide open all day long. Something you can't do with a big block. They were only 2/3rd's the weight per hp than Yamaha. The 600's weren't even on the chart they were so bad. They've not a little heavier, they're a LOT heavier. The 600 weighs 1,260 lbs which = 2.1 lbs per hp Vs. 689 lbs for the 450R and 1.5 lbs per hp, a full 28% faster out of the hole. Double the weight for only 150 more hp? I don't think so. Like I said, not even on the chart. Interesting you recommend them over a diesel because they're just about has heavy as one. I can tell you that. That fact kills their efficiency as far as them being something special, right out of the gate. I'm not aware of lower unit problems on the Mercury outboards. They do have big problems with the Mercruiser I/O's. But that has an entire drive line and would have air slap problems anyway. You can't get all the slack out of an inboard/ outboard driveline no matter what you do. Too many shafts and gear sets that all start on a simple spline. The only thing you can do is go with as deep a lower unit as possible. Not to sound insulting, but what did you do, just read an article on the 600 and do a video from that? You obviously don't know a thing about them. And actually, neither do I. You don't have to, to know the 600 is a slug. The 450R at 54,000 dollars is a much better all around engine than the 600 at 77,000 dollars. To be comparable, they'd need at least 900 hp to keep up. These had better be some serious work horses. Certainly, performance is NOT their game.
@Evanderj
@Evanderj Год назад
I think it’s just for a different market. The V12’s are designed to have practically indiscernible vibration and noise and a smooth power band through 2 gears. They are made for heavy yachts where the weight won’t be an issue and will be run very differently. The marketing is centered around luxury and refinement. To use automotive comparisons, if the 450R is AMG, the 600 is Bentley. That reflects the force-inducted V8 to the NA V12 as well. I agree that your friend made the right choice for his intentions. Those seeking a less exhilarating experience, but rather to quickly plane and maneuver through a steerable gear case will probably gravitate to the Verado.
@charliedarby6218
@charliedarby6218 17 дней назад
I would love to see a video of someone servicing one of these motors
@yerrie1908
@yerrie1908 2 года назад
The problem with the outboard is for a lot of people who use boats not as cars is where the outboards are placed and they are way way to expensive for most people who use boats to relax go distances and not speed, simply very different solutions to very different demands. Diesel engines can make zillions of hours without any service, people use them as generators in their boat and have them idling for hours in day, again it's not comparable
@powerboatguy2308
@powerboatguy2308 2 года назад
Can be more practical than some higher end stern drive applications.
@SAMUGOPOO
@SAMUGOPOO 2 года назад
Pretty sweet motor, I will never be able to afford one 🤣🤣. I'm stuck with my 1985 Mercury 18XD FOREVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR
@tomadams266
@tomadams266 3 года назад
You raise some very valid points. Still way out of my league though...
@tylerboss
@tylerboss Год назад
Nice video bro.
@jakes5530
@jakes5530 3 года назад
My only question on putting outboards on big boats is where do you put the tender? Say you want to island hop to explore new beaches. Almost all big heavy boat hulls over 40 ft long have a draft >3 ft regardless of i/o or OB. But, outboards eliminate a usable swim platform for tender storage. That means youre either going to have to beach a 30,000+ lb boat that costs $500k+ (no thanks), or restrict yourself to docks/marinas. Anchoring in > 5 ft water with no tender is not an option.
@markgendusa3624
@markgendusa3624 3 года назад
We'll said.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
90% of these offshore fisherman have zero need for a tender. None.
@jakes5530
@jakes5530 3 года назад
@@petersouthernboy6327 lol who cares? These motors are not just being sold to offshore fishermen. You see big center consoles heading out of rough florida inlets all the time, heading to the bahamas with not a fishing rod in sight. These motors have applications on Sea Rays and Formulas too, both of which are very much so family boats not fishing.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
@@jakes5530 - and Sea Ray and Formula (especially) have moved over to outboard power. Most people with tenders tie them up on their mooring buoy. Right now, the wait on a new 72’ Viking with MTU inboards is 7 months. For Viking’s 46 Valhalla Center Console it’s 2-plus years. For a Scout 530 LXF it’s over 3 years. The builders don’t care what *you* want - they care about what their buyers want. And since 2009 the only double digit growth segment in the entire marine industry has been Center Consoles powered by big outboards
@seadog2396
@seadog2396 2 года назад
You hit right onto the Point, Jake. I wouldn't run 40-footer without a tender....
@mkp3824
@mkp3824 2 года назад
These look like some nice motors. Two speed, too.
@boycewaters6716
@boycewaters6716 3 года назад
The inboards will never be replaced 100% you can’t have out boards on big sport fishes and what not
@daniels2761
@daniels2761 3 года назад
I like outboards, but no swim platform is a big downside. Let alone fishing off the rear of the boat.
@billhutton5153
@billhutton5153 2 года назад
What like Yamaha was making outboard in the 1950's?? I remember well the Kikhoffer plate on front of old Marc's. Only thing I'd worry about is turning lower unit/skag? There has to be a seal of some type to allow turning? Any joint/ interface is a point of possible failure
@lloydholt6511
@lloydholt6511 3 года назад
Very limited audience for a very heavy motor. Still, the weight savings on a diesel inboard are real. As is the minimum or shallow depth required of inboard installations. This ain’t no bass boat motor. It is designed for one specific class of boats. Luxury offshore family/fishing boats in the 40-60 ft range.
@getprobed838
@getprobed838 2 года назад
what engine block are they using in the Verado V12?
@jamiec6504
@jamiec6504 3 года назад
I see so many bitter people complaining about $77k per motor. First, Mercury invested a sh@t ton of money to develop this motor. Obviously the majority of people complaining don’t run or understand business. Mercury has to recoup their investment over time and still make a profit or these new products never see the light of day. Also, everything is relative. $77k for one Mercury 600 is a rounding error for some people. They literally don’t even notice it.
@shaynelhta
@shaynelhta 3 года назад
If I had to have a gas motor I would rather have LT4's I think. 1/3 the price, less weight, and more horsepower.
@lvnitupru
@lvnitupru Год назад
The “soft wet clutches” could very well be the down fall. Any transmission (at least in the automotive world) let the clutches slip more so the operator does not feel the shifts as much. Which means the transmission is “slipping” the clutches more. Which equals more wear and tear an earlier transmission failure on said transmissions.
@malfunctionjunction6212
@malfunctionjunction6212 3 года назад
I'll get one when they come out with a tiller.
@acefisheries.2013
@acefisheries.2013 2 года назад
Great video put on my lobster boat!
@evanbouchard7531
@evanbouchard7531 3 года назад
Great vid
@markgendusa3624
@markgendusa3624 3 года назад
All do respect, having a beautiful, slick, elegant yacht with a bunch of shit hanging off the back seems wrong. Also, Sayonara swim platform! 12cylinder is pretty cool though.
@petersouthernboy6327
@petersouthernboy6327 3 года назад
Except that the inboard market is on life support. That's why Viking started Valhalla. The big luxury offshote Center Console market is on fire. 1 second ago
@shanemc8253
@shanemc8253 2 года назад
as long as people continue to pay these prices it wont be stopping
@borito3591
@borito3591 2 года назад
And here i am with my mercury 5hp that doesnt start
@Mr91495osh
@Mr91495osh 3 года назад
I want a Grady White 37 Express with twin V12 Mercs!
@barryredman2803
@barryredman2803 Год назад
When money is no object, Mercury fills the need, you supply the greed.
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