are these PRO or CONSUMER cameras? | Canon R7 vs R10 

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Both me and my wife own r7s, they are perfect for us as we photograph wildlife and birds. The autofocus is awesome, and it is a hardy camera. 150mm of rain and it never missed. Now just need to save for RF lenses, but in the meantime all our old lenses, even Tamron and Sigma rock in this system. Great vid as usual 🙂

I personally dont like the "beginner/Professional" labels. I have been shooting with a 7Dmii for 6 years and am definitely not a beginner. I do not work professionally as a photographer as its my hobby only. I think something needs to be said as to the cost of a camera and what one can afford as a hobbyst vs the necessities of the professional. I bought the R10 for my wildlife photography because simply I could not afford anything more and it is still an upgrade from the DSLR's. I think as a hobbyst you definitely don't need to pay an extra $1000 more (in Australia) for an extra card slot and bigger battery. What it came down to for me, was that the cameras below the R10 in price were significantly worse, but the cameras for an extra $1k (R7) were not delivering that much more. Perhaps in the northern hemisphere there is not much price difference between the R10 and the R7??

I nearly bought the R10 but I decided to save up a little longer and get the R7. For only a (relatively) small amount of extra cash you're getting a more complete camera that the extra features just make it feel more professional for me (e.g. IBIS, dual card slots, bigger battery).

I'm mostly a Sony guy, just want to add a thanks to you for all the great info you've shared related to photography in general. Keep on rockin'

It's not the camera that is pro or consumer......it's the photographer! Put any camera in the hands of a pro and you will get pro level photographers.

As a hobbyst /enthusiast, non Professional, trying to choose between r10 and more lenses, or r8 full frame with one lens to begin with...

Using the R3/R5 plus an M5 for a pocket camera. Picked up the R7 to add the 1.6X crop but was hoping it would also fit in my pocket, it doesn’t. Plan B in the works…

Waiting for the r7 n r8 video, cameras than are both entry level at the same price. Cheers

They could have gone retro for some of the cameras though, don't know why canon won't do, especially on the APSC front.

Awesome and informative as usual! Good luck Vanessa and thank you so much!

I bought my daughter an R10 and she loves it, now im looking at getting the R7 for myself

Video capability particularly useful nice R7 sample Very informative 8mins do like the R7.

Hello!! I got the R10 a week ago and I really like it so far.. but I’m still debating if a should exchange it for the R7. The only thing that concerns me about the R7 is the no built- in flash. is that really important?? Or should I keep the R10 and get a better lenses? I’m not a pro and I just want the camera for traveling I have some nice pictures as a memories!

Thank you for sharing information on the caneras The R7 seems to have more robust features IBIS & 4k 60 etc which fit with my uses

Great to hear your thoughts on these as the R7 is a potential upgrade after 8 years on my canon 700D however with the R8 now released im torn about finally going to full frame but i dont have budget for new lenses and im not even sure with an adaptor if my apsc lenses would do R8 justice or should stick to apsc for my portrait/fashion and product shoots - would you or your viewers have any wisdom on this? best regards from London UK

Vanessa you are my joy

I think it's just a ghost from the past to think along the old lines of "professional" and "not professional" with regards to modern cameras. Especially since most "non professionals" have moved to phones long ago, and the "enthusiast" segment has always craved the old "semiprofessional" line (same as the professionals often chose, because it was easier on the wrists and bank). Your example of Canon is good. Both of these are fully usable as professional tools, as long as you remember to add good glass. Similarly, in Nikon-land we have the z5, z6, z7, z9 lines in the full frame, and z30, z50, zfc in crop. z5 is the only clear "enthusiast" grade. Both z6 and z7 are the typical "workman's tools" (filling the old D7xx and D8xx lines), and the Z9 is the "flagship" model. z30 is a camera stripped of the viewfinder for only a display, making it as compact as possible. I'd say this is the only pure "consumer" grade in the lineup (while still being fully usable for the professional vlogger making more money than us). The z50 and the zfc are the oddballs, replacing the entire crop camera lineup of enthusiast D cameras, including the D500. But only the Zfc has any attempts at weather sealing, making it the only camera really useful outdoors on anything but sunny days. Professional or Amateur camera? Look at the glass. I've done jobs with both Z7ii and Zfc (a smaller camera is less scary for a kid, because the kid can still see the human behind it). I think attaching a professional or not label to the camera houses we're having today makes no sense. They are tools. We had better be asking ourselves "is this the right tool for the job infront of me?", and if the answer is no, "in that case, which tool should I use?". My current toolchest solves the following: High resolution and dynamic range for when I have good light available or can use flash (Z7ii), Lower resolution but low noise on high iso for events and other places barely lit where I can't bring flash (Alas, still on mirrored, D750). Small, light body, I can bring with me everywhere that doesn't scare toddlers (Zfc). Of course, I'd want a Z9 and a chest full of exotics. But they wouldn't increase my income over what I already have.

Both Good Venessa Joy. You also have to remember that not everyone has the Money to be able to afford the best. 99% of your viewers are not pros and just want a good Photo. As you know you can Capture a Fantistic Image with a 80d with good good Glass xox

My only complaint about my R7 is the "feel" of the camera which comes off as not as solid as my R. But, if it stands up to hard work (e.g., going on a hike), I guess that's all good.

6:28 seems a bit overkill for backup camera?? Idk, perhaps show us how you mounted it on your car. 🤔

I know she directed this video more towards photographers... But be aware if your looking at buying either of these camera's for video only... They will overheat on you if your shooting in 4k60. Especially if your shooting in direct sun during the summer months. Canon camera's are well known to overheat... Including the r5.

I recently bought the r10, feeling like the lack of IBIS is making a difference. Almost want to exchange for a r7. Any lenses that you would suggest if I kept my r10 for better stabilization?

Hi Vanessa, Canon just released R8 & R50, may be this R7 vs. R10 was an old clip? If you happen to have video for R8 & R50, love to see that!

Which one is better in low light high iso?

R8 or no , be my first Canon camera , been on Pentax 80s , minolta , Nikon 90s 2000s , Panasonic up too now

thanks for the concise comparison. BTW, your very young model is adorable.

Nice video goodlookin Vanessa. Im gonna buy the R7 but im not 100% sure... Have a eos R5 and i love it.

The R7 is better for those of us with bear claw hands... and I prefer the bigger battery. Plus the "auto level" feature in the R7 is just fantastic, for both stills and video.

im a bit confused i hope you can explain to me. aps-c got a crop factor on canon cameras of 1.6 but i heard that when you get the canon r10 4k 60 fps. there is a crop factor . is when i use the 4k 24fps has zero crop factor, or the 4k 60fps has an additional crop factor to the basic 1.6?

when i search for canon r10 videos on youtube most of the youtubers have compared both canon r7 and r10 videos by showing mostly r7 vidoes and photos and only 3-4 photo samples of r10.

I would love to create with the R7!

I use my R7 for wildlife. It works great for that.

R7 vs R8

The R7 is interesting, and at its price point under $2k, makes anyone still considering a 5D mk iv to think twice.

Glad to see Canon giving APS-Cs some love too. Not every camera needs to cost an arm and a leg! BTW you remind me of a young Winona Ryder here! ^_^

can u show R10 1080p 60fps?

Vanessa, VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION because I'm gonna buy TODAY but if you only shoot VIDEO (I'm learning photo but) I only shoot video. If YOU were ME would you buy the R7 or the R8? Same price BUT R7 has ibis and 2 card slots but the R8 is full frame. Thanks for all your gold. Bo

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Do you do any street photography? I’m based in San Antonio would love to grab coffee, pick your brain about wedding photography and do some street photography ☕️📸

i think that if a person has a 5d4 they would move to the r7 after all 5d4 is a pro level camera

I love r7 is powerfull and small.

I had to rewatch the video a second time - didn’t hear one word on the first viewing.

I have 2 M6 bodies and they are amazing, I want to upgrade but I am not trusting Canon. They made a great camera and mount and then abandoned it. Canon the most intuitive camera and menus but I trust Nikon more. It is sad in 2024 you cant trust Canon.

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I started shooting with film. Double card slots make me laugh. If you can't sleep without duo card slots are you really a pro? Two cards do not make for a pro. Knowing what you are doing makes the pro. I am not saying backup is not good just that it does not mean professional. Plus duo slots allows one for video and one for photo and there goes backup out the window.

Love my R7 for wildlife; )

I’d bet a Yankee dime Jared will be the only one she replies to! 😂😂