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Are these the best PAF humbuckers? 

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Are these the best PAF humbuckers? Classic tone, sensible price. If you want classic tone at a sensible price then you should seriously consider the Tonerider Alnico II classics PAF humbucker set. These PAF humbuckers have alnico II magnets, 7.5k ohms in the nek, 8.3k ohms in the bridge and only cost £90!
A vintage PAF is generally between 7.5k and 9k ohms and probably uses an Alnico II or Alnico V magnet, however studies into these shows they also frequently used Alico III and Alnico IV magnets.
We shot these Tonerider PAF humbuckers out against the Gibson Burstbucker 1 and 2 set which is stock in a Gibson Les Paul standard and what I consider my favourite humbuckers, Monty's Guitars Full Monty in the bridge and Monty's Guitars Retro Wind in the neck.
These budget PAF humbuckers really shone when playing individual notes, so if you're looking for the best budget PAF or a Gibson PAF alternative then these are probably the best option.
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Комментарии : 102   
@keeff
@keeff Год назад
Would have been nice to hear the guitars in tune
@devinj
@devinj Год назад
Seriously! All of them were out too haha
@JayOneAlumni
@JayOneAlumni Год назад
that and with the same guitar! makes it pointless with different guitars
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom Год назад
First thing that struck me, first strum. I dont get how you could do all this work and dont even hear that you are out of tune. Tuner ?
@USMarine75
@USMarine75 Год назад
The green one and the Chapman were painfully out of tune.
@LordFingers1
@LordFingers1 Год назад
Painfully out of tune
@unabonger777
@unabonger777 Год назад
I would try tuning it before changing pickups, you might be surprised
@allenanderson6430
@allenanderson6430 Год назад
I love this concept for a video, but please friends, tune that guitar! It's so hard to focus on anything else when my ears are so focused on it not being in tune.
@Ari_Calamari
@Ari_Calamari Год назад
I second this! It’s pretty jarring.
@futurekarlos5256
@futurekarlos5256 Год назад
Guitar 2 was the worst!
@JayOneAlumni
@JayOneAlumni Год назад
i mean andertons have been doing it forever......
@patrickhernandez9529
@patrickhernandez9529 29 дней назад
Can't believe we have two guitars dudes, playing guitar on a guitar themed yt channel and they play three guitars which aren't in tune...... Bloody hell
@Great-Documentaries
@Great-Documentaries 11 месяцев назад
My CV Squier Strat Deluxe HSHS came with a set of these (alone with the Tonerider Surfari in the mid position) back in 2014. Glad to see others are finally discovering what I learned nearly a decade ago!
@SouthpawSatch
@SouthpawSatch Год назад
Just goes to show how excellent the Tone Riders are, I have used used them for years and ive always been impressed by the quality for the price. I have monty's in a les paul too and I love them equally.
@panumattila1253
@panumattila1253 Год назад
Toneriders actually sound incredibly great!
@davidwest8140
@davidwest8140 Год назад
I'm more drawn to the tones when the guitar is in tune..... Lose.all interest in the tone when the guitars are out of tune unfortunately. Nice comparison though.
@alexstrums
@alexstrums 5 месяцев назад
Great review guys! I dropped in a set of Tonerider AC2's to replace Burstbucker 1&2 in my 2022 Gibson LP Standard. I found the BB's were way too bright and I could never dial them to my liking. I find the AC2's neck pickup can be quite dark for playing clean (through a Fender style blackface) so I usually use an EQ pedal to bring out some of the brightness and clarity. If I'm using a drive or fuzz pedal, the bassy-ness it has makes for an awesome tone. You kinda get the best of both worlds when you use an EQ pedal with this pickup. The bridge pickup is fantastic. This set are not going anywhere for a looooong time!
@bitodin
@bitodin 6 месяцев назад
Is this a blind test on which guitar is in tune?
@canadianintheukbrian
@canadianintheukbrian 6 месяцев назад
it's great to know that you don't need to break the bank to obtain a decent bucker, for some us mortals who don't own Les Pauls but Les Paul types like my Vintage V100 this is a perfect upgrade definitely something I will be looking at in the future along with the pots and switches
@VanjaSpirin
@VanjaSpirin 9 месяцев назад
I use Toreriders for years. They are the best sounding pickups to my taste. Better than SD or Dimarzios.Other great brand of cheap but very good pickups is Donlis.
@silverwings1843
@silverwings1843 10 месяцев назад
Yeah !!!!!!!!!!!!!! You would think you would have spent some effort in TUNING. Each was way out of tune!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jnuhjnuh
@jnuhjnuh Год назад
Tune guitars 1 and 2, please.
@edwinwise6751
@edwinwise6751 Год назад
I have used tone riders . They are real improvement over stock pieces
@juffurey
@juffurey 11 месяцев назад
Seems like anything is an improvement in a guitar that costs up to $800, ridiculous, luckily really good pickups can be found for really good prices now.
@thelolguy007
@thelolguy007 Год назад
I had to stop after 2 mins guys. Tune the guitars, please
@zeffneeson5214
@zeffneeson5214 Год назад
Iron gear are another amazing budget pickup I have in a few of my guitars and they absolutely hold their own and build quality is expensive pickups are a farse👌definitely needed a tune up tho
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 9 месяцев назад
IronGear do Very good pickups as well And cost less than the Toneriders. I had to decide between them for two guitar upgrades and that 20% tipped the scales.
@wareloski2137
@wareloski2137 Год назад
Biggest difference was Guitar 2 being out of tune
@SoloSi2024
@SoloSi2024 4 месяца назад
All sounded great. Tricky as different guitars will sound different with the same pickups. Love low output buckers, you can get nice cleans too. Surprised on the hum you got when engaging the drive pedal with the Toneriders.
@mrtumnusmusic
@mrtumnusmusic 8 месяцев назад
That Burstbucker bridge pickup sounded amazing.
@thelolguy007
@thelolguy007 Год назад
Suppose it’s only fair that all guitars were out of tune 🤷‍♂️
@1stezekiel
@1stezekiel Год назад
i was surprised by the "open sound" of these pic ups. they are great.
@adonikam1
@adonikam1 9 месяцев назад
Demarzio Super Distortion in the bridge and Demarzio Super 2 in the neck position. POW!!!
@schou1170
@schou1170 2 месяца назад
How about tuning up, guys?!?
@nickiden
@nickiden Год назад
Awesome video. Those pick ups sound awesome
@sadowskihomestudio
@sadowskihomestudio Год назад
Why?! Why is these guitar permanently out of tune? 😱
@Apollwn
@Apollwn Год назад
Every Tonerider humbucker that I have tried (Alnico II, Alnico IV, Rocksong, Brmingham) was fantastic... but weren't the results of your test always going to be influenced by the fact that the pickups are installed in guitars that are extremely different?
@geckobaldy
@geckobaldy 9 месяцев назад
I have TR A4s in a LP a like. Very nice pups but I'm back using my Gibby 2004 LPS with BB Pros
@francoislepage8227
@francoislepage8227 5 месяцев назад
Guitars are not in tune :( but I can confirm the Toneriders alnico2 are stunning, I've a set in my Gibson LP R7 and they are unbelievebly great...
@juffurey
@juffurey 11 месяцев назад
when compared with the Gibson pickups I actually prefer the Tonerider alnico 4 ones. Just a bit more bite but not in the same way as the Gibsons.
@adrian_V99
@adrian_V99 Год назад
Goo' day , Mr Phero Tone. A PAF is a 'patented applied for HB' and you're quite right they are at the same time the lowest output mass-manufactured ones. The II's all the more so. Cheers!
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 9 месяцев назад
Output is Not measured in Ohms ... While DC resistance Can give a rough clue as to the output of a pickup, it is not at all the only factor.
@Musicology1975
@Musicology1975 Год назад
Amazing quality from tonerider
@schubiduba1
@schubiduba1 6 месяцев назад
Pls tune the guitars before and set the intonation correctly
@cwmims
@cwmims 10 месяцев назад
It's so important to tune the guitar first before doing a demo fellas. :(
@CastlesMadeOf...
@CastlesMadeOf... Год назад
Be good to hear them all in the same guitar - PITA I know but... SUBBED!!
@PherotoneStudios
@PherotoneStudios Год назад
I totally agree. I’ve almost finished building a guitar with a quick-change ability for comparisons. Just need to work out the wiring
@CastlesMadeOf...
@CastlesMadeOf... Год назад
@@PherotoneStudios interesting 🤔
@SLO7HProductions
@SLO7HProductions 7 месяцев назад
Aren't anybody doing any high gain metal sound comparisons anymore?
@DBroce
@DBroce Год назад
As said below, how can I take you seriously when you’re doing a demo with an out of tune guitar.
@MortandHarley
@MortandHarley 10 месяцев назад
Ever heard of a guitar tuner???
@LeeKirkman88
@LeeKirkman88 Год назад
Immediately i went for 3 which is the tonerider.
@DennyBob521
@DennyBob521 3 месяца назад
The guitar with the Monties pickups has intonation/tuning issues. Not sure what you used to amplify, mic, record these, but none of them sound good clean in this presentation.
@conordyer2307
@conordyer2307 Год назад
Tonerider were half the cost only a few years ago when I picked up 2 sets, along with a set of vanson alnico 2 pickups and a set of wilkinson alnico 5 pafs...they are all great pickups and were the same price but tonerider is the only one that increased their costs over the years. That why another test like this with wilkinson, vanson and artec alnico pickups would be a great test to compare even cheaper pickups than tonerider It would show how big brand like Seymour duncan, fender and gibson rip you off just to maintain license fees or the cost of their guitars.....300-500 for burstbuckers is a joke as they know you could buy a harley benton and b.buckers and tonewise it's essentially a gibson without the name on the headstock. Pickups are literally just plastic ,wire and magnets, no magic....... The amount of winds and magnet choice give it its voice which make many pickups very similar so expensive pickups your paying for the name and are not any better or worse than established cheaper brands
@alvaroruizruiz7538
@alvaroruizruiz7538 9 месяцев назад
Between the tonerider alnico 2 and vanson 57 which ones do you think are better? Are they any different really?
@x7stringinJSCx
@x7stringinJSCx 2 месяца назад
Next time test out Tuner Pedals. See which is more accurate.
@bigstick5278
@bigstick5278 9 месяцев назад
Scary that you can't hear your guitar is out of tune..
@PherotoneStudios
@PherotoneStudios 9 месяцев назад
I fear nothing!
@BarbarasMilk
@BarbarasMilk 9 месяцев назад
There's tuning or intonation issues with your guitars.
@evankolpack
@evankolpack 5 месяцев назад
I can't take any "musician" seriously who can't hear something obviously, painfully out of tune or time.
@Frapzoid
@Frapzoid Год назад
Paf? How about calling them P-A-F as in Patent Applied For? I like the way the "Lezzzz" Paul sounds. Why do the British say Lezzz Paul instead of Les Paul?
@KozmykJ
@KozmykJ 9 месяцев назад
Because the name Les short for Leslie is way more common than Les short for Lester ...
@Frapzoid
@Frapzoid 9 месяцев назад
@@KozmykJ So English people don't know his name was Lester oooops I mean LEZTER? 🤣
@stewarttomkinson3356
@stewarttomkinson3356 9 месяцев назад
B Y O ARE PAF AND SOUND GREAT
@mistergoat7357
@mistergoat7357 Год назад
I’m only hearing 2-3 strings on the strum and it’s out of tune. Good pickups have string clarity. All 6 of them buggers… it can be done.. if this maker is poorly represented, you owe them money for lost sales and I would take action to remove this video… Exiting before the 5 minute mark..
@skaboosh
@skaboosh 8 месяцев назад
You have to play dynamically to test pickups, the Monty's respond dynamically brilliantly... Just strumming like that is just not that helpful
@skaboosh
@skaboosh 8 месяцев назад
And the picking, vary the strength... "play" the pickups.....
@geckobaldy
@geckobaldy 9 месяцев назад
All 3 guitars out of tune by exactly the same amount. Genius.
@RyanMaloneymusic
@RyanMaloneymusic 4 месяца назад
Tuning ahhhh
@Geert890
@Geert890 5 месяцев назад
What the fuck is that tuning on guitar 2
@joekelly9369
@joekelly9369 Месяц назад
No 1 others are bright
@hank6429
@hank6429 5 месяцев назад
Why is the guitar out of tune
@benjamingreenlee8964
@benjamingreenlee8964 4 месяца назад
How can you get multiple guitars that far out of tune all in the same way?? It’s almost like you guys are just gear gear gear and don’t really actually play….
@TylerAnselmo11
@TylerAnselmo11 4 дня назад
gitar 2 sounds out of tune
@USMarine75
@USMarine75 Год назад
Worst explanation of what a PAF pickup is. Well maybe that’s what a “Paff” is. 😂
@ronaldgoebel2174
@ronaldgoebel2174 Год назад
Be nice if you were IN TUNE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@jerrysolonsmith8471
@jerrysolonsmith8471 11 месяцев назад
Guys..... Why are we filming videos with our of tube guitars.... It's so distracting i can't take the video seriously.
@colinfreeman-ib1zz
@colinfreeman-ib1zz 6 месяцев назад
Different guitars, some more out of tune than others; not a fair comparison.
@ktyuiytr
@ktyuiytr 6 месяцев назад
But guitar has tone button. You should use it. Example sound is muddy and dull then just use tone button.
@user-lv7ph7hs7l
@user-lv7ph7hs7l 7 месяцев назад
Yeah unwatchable... they aren't slightly out of tune.
@dickey335
@dickey335 Год назад
It’s pronounced “pea-ay-ef” not “paff”. 👍😉
@Dad-Gad
@Dad-Gad Год назад
Not it isn't , nobody said you had to pronounce it that way ever .
@ALANRMOREY
@ALANRMOREY 7 месяцев назад
Tune . Tune .tune dont be s.t.u.p.i.d.
@donkeevney
@donkeevney 4 месяца назад
All sound the same
@waterforlife1968
@waterforlife1968 6 месяцев назад
Tune your guitars before making a video.
@Cinnemax77
@Cinnemax77 2 месяца назад
Wow dude that sounds like shit
@peterm3964
@peterm3964 10 месяцев назад
Learn how to tune up .
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