Are They Worth It? 

Yo Merlin I really enjoyed the nomad Tournament thx

In uber late game, with Trade set up, the Wynguard Rangers and Footmen are better, because they offer you can't already make with normal production buildings. In late game, I always have like 15 of each production bulding type at the very least, you don't need to save the wood at all.

@@sleepylion9788That’s my issue with the Wynguard Palace, it’s a nice unit producers, but wasting a minute without units will make you loose due to the enemy being able to recover

Rangers on the back line taking out crossbows is probably stronger than people think. They aren't meant to counter MAA. But Footmen doing better against Knights is fair.

I made 99 ball 1/3rd knights 1/3rd Wynguard Rangers 1/3rd wynguard footmen. They are all incredibly tanky and the rangers seem to do target priority different and seem not to over kill units any more. I may be wrong. Anyway I rolled into enemy base with 99 and still had 99 at the end. Quite impressive.

@@thegorn then let them deal bonus damage to ranged infantry just like the Malian javelin throwers. The Rangers need to be different from the longbowmen somehow and the extra stats for the price doesn't cut it.

The Wynguard Footmen does have a attack speed increase over the men at arms. So with everything else, to me the cost seems somewhat fair.

@Mr.Kroket they are incredibly tanky and definitely work well with the rangers. Stood behind. I did a line formation of both, footmen at front and rangers behind, and the long range of the rangers and their natural targeting ability (that I think they have, not to over kill stuff) means that they burn through armies real quick. Just make sure you use v on the footmen so they stay in line

It takes less time to train a ranger unit than it does the same number of longbowmen from a normal archery range or keep (1:00 vs 1:30). May not make them worthwhile, but it's still something in their favor.

@@seanheath4492 I guess I've been spoiled with train times of longbows from the council hall - basically the only place I ever train longbows, because it's so damn fast.

@@thegorn If you go for the Abbey instead of the Council Hall, it's something to take into account. Looks like the balance is: Rangers: strictly better than the base unit, significantly more expensive, somewhat faster (if no Council Hall). Footmen: mostly better than the base unit (defense is debatable since they have more hp but less armor), slightly more expensive, significantly faster (1 minute vs 2:15). Army: normal units, slightly faster production (75 seconds vs 80 seconds for a pair of trebuchets), _much_ cheaper. Raiders: normal units, _much_ faster production, somewhat more expensive (720 resources for 2 knights and 2 horsemen produced normally vs 850 for the raiders, but the extra cost is all food which you'll probably be drowning in).

@@seanheath4492 wynguard cavalry give horseman and knight 3 each, not 2. Which mean get them at discount too.

@@MrAnonymous00100 Fair point. My brain saw 2 and 2, for some reason.

Yes but when compared to the trebuchet army option that cost seems too high to make them a better choice sadly. -10% and they will be playable in more situations.

The age up is in imperial a decent player will have some techs

That's because everyone hates the HRE including the devs. "Infantry civ" Gets one extreeeemely situational unique unit to mow down unsupervised vills I'm glad that new uniits are given to the old civs, I'm just really bummed out that HRE got nothing but one new tech.

@@ned8896 lol i don't think a rational answer is devs hate HRE.....i think devs team working on aoe4 proect is limited in number

@@ceppatore7483 Neither do I, but it is the most lackluster civ in the game, has been since release actually. They still have bugs that make the civ unplayable, especially naval maps since you can't place relics in docks unless you know 100% that the dock will survive through the entire game. Because once that dock with relics inside goes down, they are removed from the game. Elzbach not attacking if it gets destroyed once and rebuilt afterwards. Infantry charge bonus not applying if you get marching drills. Emergency repair not working on Landmarks or certain buildings- And now is the only civ with only one unique unit, which is an expensive glass cannon (60f, 100g) that now get's 3 shotted by a Wynguard Archer (75w, 41g) a pop.

@@ned8896 lanzs maybe need a reward for killing units (5 gold per kill) ect ect.....btw trying to ballance aoe4 is difficult.....cause you need to ballance eco and military....but civs are so different that balancings are on almost orthogonal axes....btw i agree if devs buff too much come civs, remaining ones need some buff too

No, because it's been well discussed in all the PUP patch notes discussion videos.

yeah make them god XD

Look up terminologies of Footman and man at arms.

Not for Mali at least. They have no armor units 🫨 Wel...except Sofa. But that's it! Lol

Yeah not sure how 6 horses is equal to 6 bowman, but the bowman take 3x longer to make. What were they thinking giving it only 110 hp lol, at least the range is crazy good.

This whole update is a joke. Why the hell did the easiest faction to play get THREE new units?