Are Ultralight Packs Really This Bad?

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@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

*The Packs:* HMG Southwest 55: geni.us/WBnrkR GG Mariposa 60: geni.us/xubzokG SMD Minimalist V2: geni.us/0Sz9 Durston Kakwa 55: geni.us/mOPQZY Zpacks Arc Haul 60: geni.us/3pBiA Bonfus Framus 58: geni.us/loVQ9

@hclchgm 4 месяца назад

How about the Osprey Levity 60? 15.2 ounces.... lighter than most of what you just listed.

@peterfconley 4 месяца назад

Dude, the capacity measuring you did made my day. I’ve always wondered if those figures were nominal or actual and it was SO satisfying the way you did it!

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

Glad you enjoyed it. I was surprised at how tall each pack was when “full” I don’t think you could actually hike with them that tall.

@peterfconley 4 месяца назад

@@MyLifeOutdoors that was always my hunch. I’d be curious to see a breakdown on capacity with the top closed and what percentage of nominal capacity that is.

@jarlespelund1021 4 месяца назад

I second this notion.

@vincentvega5686 4 месяца назад

yes, excellent way of testing the pack's capacity.

@Wyatt.the.martian 4 месяца назад

@MyLifeOutdoors you haven't tried the flextrek whipsnake 37 trillion!?

@chrisholiman2552 4 месяца назад

I took that Hyperlite on a trip and loaded it with about 35 pounds of food and gear and it was horrible. The cheesy belt would not stay on my hips and my neck and shoulders were destroyed after the first day. I believe the rating for that pack is 40 pounds, but I wouldn’t put much more than 20 in it. I traded up to a heavier pack with belts that actually cup the iliac crest so the weight stays on the hips. Well worth a couple of extra pounds.

@randyholloway920 4 месяца назад

HMG is the facade of UL backpacks. They are all too heavy and over-priced for what functionality orfeatures they have. That’s why they’re called Meh packs.

@X.C_ 4 месяца назад

I’ll take comfort over a light weight pack anytime.

@natlovell122 4 месяца назад

What pack do you carry?

@zakkmiller8242 4 месяца назад

But the more lightweight my pack is, the more comfortable I am while hiking lmao. Im a 100% different hiker when my pack weighs around 25lbs vs 15 lbs.

@hikediver 4 месяца назад

After a career in the Marines light is comfort. I almost quit backpacking due to the wear and tear. While I’m not ultralight, the ultralight options changed the game for me.

@Yomamma100 4 месяца назад

It is possible to have both 😎

@philsmith2444 4 месяца назад

@@zakkmiller8242But are you a 100% different hiker when the only difference is a 2lb pack vs a 4lb pack?

@TRAVELiNTi 4 месяца назад

Your genuine approach to reviewing travel equipment is truly commendable. Your honest evaluations, highlighting both the positives and negatives of each item, make your videos incredibly valuable for anyone looking for reliable insights. Keep up the fantastic work!

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

I really appreciate that! Thank you

@eric55406 4 месяца назад

Nice review. I like how you put the bloopers at the end 🙂Currently I'm using the Osprey Exos Pro 55 and still happy with that. Slightly heavier than the "ultralight" but that trampoline back is really great for ventilation.

@mattbeckwith8575 4 месяца назад

I’ve had the regular Exos 58 for a few years now. Still under 3 pounds, carries weight nicely, and the trampoline back saves me from a lot of sweat. I think eventually I’ll move up to the exos pro, it looks great!

@HostileTakeover2 4 месяца назад

I've never known anybody with an Exos 5x that regretted getting it.

@AF-tv6uf 4 месяца назад

I have the Osprey Exos 55 and I keep it in my trunk in case I want to hike somewhere that I'll need extra gear that my Targus day pack can't carry. I think it's a classic.

@AB-nv7bz 22 дня назад

Thats a real backpack with an MSRP of $300. 2 of those packs are $400.

@cameronvirrill4500 4 месяца назад

Another clear, specific, well-paced video that's very helpful. Well done.

@zakkmiller8242 4 месяца назад

Proving once again why this is THE best backpacking channel on the tube.

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

That’s high praise! Thanks so much

@RayHikes 4 месяца назад

With the gossamer gear, if they say it's a 60L pack, they're measuring EVERYTHING. I have a Kumo 36 from them, and the internal volume of the main pocket is only 28L. The other 8 liters are in the front mesh pocket, and the side water bottle pockets. I love the packs but wish they'd be more up front about how small the packs are. Although, the lack of space did force me to go more ultralight, so maybe Gossamer is just trying to get us all to be more UL? Edit; Just looked it up and gossamer gear only claims a capacity of 36L in the main pocket of the mariposa. They say there's 24L spread across the exterior pockets.

@tsukuyomin 4 месяца назад

I received my Bonfus Framus 48 a bit before christmas. Haven't had it out on a big trip yet, but it feels great and can't wait to start using it!

@DanielPetukhin 4 месяца назад

Best way to present your sponsor I've seen thus far. Creative! Great vid - as always!

@peterjohnson6273 4 месяца назад

Always fun, Steve. And always informative. Thanks.

@cfoscoop 4 месяца назад

glad to see the mariposa here, I just ordered one a couple days ago as my first lightweight pack, looking forward to it!

@jadenm 4 месяца назад

Great video. I absolutely want to get the arch haul but, like you said, the price is the barrier and buying the hip belts just makes it that more expensive. Those load lifters make a huge difference for me. I tried two different sizes of the hyperlite and wanted that pack to work. It checks most of the boxes for me but in the end, shoulder pain caused by the straps were too uncomfortable after a few hours of wearing it with 20lbs of gear. No matter how i adjusted the frames, it just wouldn’t work for me. Magic straps really are magic to my backpacking experience. 🎉

@philipkitamura2870 4 месяца назад

Like the 6 Moon Designs Minimalist V2, Mystery ranch Bridger also has a vest design also in 50L. I haven’t heard of the 6 Moons pack till today, so it’s great to hear there’s more of the vest designs popping up!!

@BackcountryPilgrim 4 месяца назад

Best commercial addition ever!

@mikeypick1 4 месяца назад

I have the Kakwa 40 and Kakwa 55… it’s the most comfortable pack I’ve ever used. I LOVE this pack!

@jeffbonzerpeterson 4 месяца назад

AWSOME pack and I have a bad L5 disk. I own the 55 the weight stays on my hips and the pack is super stable and the pockets are the best I have ever used.

@JasonSnailer 4 месяца назад

Thanks for your video. I’m making loadlifters for my Hyperlite before my next thru hike in March. Fellow Texan here in dfw btw

@markswishereatsstuff2500 4 месяца назад

I have an Atom Packs Mo40. Has a sturdy removable hip belt. Load lifters and I think it weighs around 28oz with one zippered hip pouch and Chicken Tamper water bottle carrier on the shoulder strap. I got funky colors to make it one of a kind.

@markwilliams1680 4 месяца назад

It is hard to know what is going to be comfortable until you actually try a pack, and know how to adjust it! That said, I have a Kakwa 40 that is by far the most comfortable pack I have ever used, and I have use many!!! It does not allow any airflow on the back, but for me, that is not a deal breaker when it is so wonderful to wear. Awesome review, keep them comming.

@Chase3141 4 месяца назад

And yet there’s almost no way to try any of these packs on before we buy them.

@philsmith2444 4 месяца назад

@@Chase3141 Yep, if you can’t borrow one or find a used one for a steal it could be a very expensive disappointment.

@mikeypick1 4 месяца назад

Same here! I have the 40 and the 55. I wish I could fit everything into my 40 because it feels like part of my body. The 55 is really close but somehow not quite the same.

@markwilliams1680 4 месяца назад

That's intersting the 55 is not the same fit. I literally forget I have my Kakwa 40 pack on most of the time I am hiking. I just can't say that for any of my other packs.

@Rambling_Bob 4 месяца назад

The “arc” on the Zpacks packs is great for ventilation, but it also has a downside … the more arc you put on the stays, the lower the pack’s internal capacity. I’ve just upgraded from the 55L Arc Blast) to the 70L to recoup the internal space lost to the curving stays. Either way it’s still a great pack 👍

@kevinstarski1598 4 месяца назад

Thanks for pointing that out. Used to have an Osprey daypack and it was so "shallow" that once I put in my water bladder, I had a hard time putting anything else in there...plus I wish the 70L would have more padding on hip/shoulder straps than the smaller version since they carry more. It still would be an ultralight pack anyway

@philsmith2444 4 месяца назад

@@kevinstarski1598 Sounds like my Stratos 24. Once I mostly stopped using bladders it became more useful, but the hip belt is still too short. I’m not “one size” like the pack LOL.

@ItsAStephanieB 4 месяца назад

Love your channel. It's interesting and different. Thank you for the effort!!

@debbilermond1553 4 месяца назад

Steven, thanks for this well thought out video for people considering upgrading their backpacks or even purchasing their first one. So much to consider, your visuals and explanations should really take the mystery out of what packs to buy. I bought the GG Mariposa 60L for myself and my husband from GGG. We love these UL packs for the external pockets to grab needed items instantly and shaving over 3 lbs. off the weight of our Gregory Diva and Baltoro 60L packs. The only thing I don't like is the way the top clips down in the back of the pack. That was probably why you couldn't get it to close. The top pocket is difficult to get into when the straps are cinched down tightly. Other than that, we're both quite happy with these packs. We buy a lot of interesting things on GGG. Love the little collapsible Fozzils Bowlz. Now, we have a plate and bowl all in one and it takes up next to nothing as far as room in the pack. Also, cleaning is a breeze when you unsnap it to rinse it off! You can go wrong for cottage industry innovation than Garage Grown Gear, IMO! 😉👍

@jguhe4368 4 месяца назад

I hope you do a future episode on the Kakwa 55 out on the trail. Cool ultralight actual liter test.

@markjones127 4 месяца назад

In the UK we have a brand called Montane who do an 'almost' ultralight pack with the running harness set up, it's called the Trailblazer and I have the 44L version but it's a Tardis, I can fit my tent in one of the side pockets for example meaning it leaves the 44L main sections free, and the design means it has compression straps which double up to hold my tent in place, I don't think it was even designed to be used that way but it works for me, it's 2.16lbs and all their gear is designed more for fast hikers and mountain runners, the back length can also be adjusted with an easy to use Velcro adjustment system, I love the running pack style shoulder straps with bult in pockets though.

@antoniolaza736 4 месяца назад

not from uk but second for this, can't wait to get it delivered so I can put it to test. After long thorough research for a budget friendly, framed, adjustable and ultralight pack i bumped into the montane 44, from that point couldn't find anything which could justify the extra price for what it offers, less than 120E, what could i ask more for. I'm aware of certain downsides presented by others but willing to take them. How is the overall durability of that pack though, sewn failures or ripped material (excluding the mesh thing, that's kinda obvious for any pack). What about the frame, is it holding well? Padding comfy enough (we talking about ul, so a total weight of 10-12kg)?

@seasoldier3902 4 месяца назад

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@Imbogurkus 4 месяца назад

Yes I have the montane 44L backpack too and it’s SO comfy!! I wore someone’s Hyperlite Unbound 40L pack for a section of the hike and was immediately in pain on my shoulders. The montane is actually a very similar weight to the Unbound 40 but with way more comfortable features

@NealBenson 4 месяца назад

Loved this! Great illustration.

@glenloewen7507 4 месяца назад

Great video! I’ve been using expedition packs for the last two decades because they haul loads well, every single item can go inside (I hated the days of strapping a lot to the outside), and I can choose how full I want it. However, there’s a high likelihood that my old “strategy” will change when I do the PCT, where a lighter and more agile pack is looking more probable. Some great information to consider here.

@ChrisHufnagel_Polymath 4 месяца назад

Love that you did the volume test on the packs. Keep them honest!

@frstesiste7670 4 месяца назад

Always wanted to do a fill with water test, but kind of impractical in a condo without even bathtub for protection if anything go wrong. Great test!

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

Trust me…lots went wrong on this one…each pack was about 120 lbs once full. Very hard to keep up right And when you dump it there was no controlling the water…

@williaty 4 месяца назад

The Mystery Ranch Bridger series of packs offers that running-vest-style shoulder rig you liked. Of course, they're not UL packs, but they are incredibly comfortable.

@MrJimaki 4 месяца назад

I always wondered about the stated capacity. Great video

@kcassidys 4 месяца назад

Mystery Ranch has packs with that vest strapping on the chest.

@DanielPetukhin 4 месяца назад

Yes, the Bridger series.

@richbanister 4 месяца назад

I've been looking at the Bridger 45 but the 4.4 lbs is a bit too much for me.

@kcassidys 4 месяца назад

@@richbanister I hear, from other male hikers that the comfort of that pack makes the extra weight not even noticeable. I have been strongly looking at the woman’s version.

@martinerhard8447 4 месяца назад

mystery ranch is on the other side of the spektrum. Ultra heavy

@kevinstarski1598 4 месяца назад

For that kind of backpack 45 doesn't make sense, in my opinion. @@richbanister

@ThenaturalmedicAdventures 4 месяца назад

I count 5 packs in the opening shot :) good video buddy. Still loving my REI Flash 55!

@thelosttraveller4725 4 месяца назад

Nice video.......I love my Zpacks Arc Haul 40......it's the best backpak I've had in my entire life.

@Gearmaniack 4 месяца назад

I love my kakwa 55. Although there have been a few hot Queensland days where I would have liked some back ventilation. Would love to see a full kakwa review.

@Slidtesko 4 месяца назад

Great video- i really like your channel 🔥 The mariposa is 36l inside- 24 is in the outer pockets. Also- i think you got some weight-conversions mixed up- between the SMD and mariposa. Mariposa is the most comfortable UL pack i've tried. Tho- i recently got a LiteAF curve 46 framed. I think it will be the new nr1 :)

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

Very likely. I copy and paste the conversion titles and then change the values. It’s possible I forgot to change one or got them switched

@davidminor6537 4 месяца назад

Love the water-fill volume verification!

@HikerJohn316 4 месяца назад

I love my Mountain Laurel Designs Exodus. I ordered a second one with no hipbelt. The shoulder straps are bigger than most UL packs. It is comfortable with about 22 pounds though I usually start a section with about 19 with 4 days food and 1 liter of water. Load lifters are not needed for lighter loads. I started hiking with a giant Lowe internal frame pack that was over 6 pounds. Because it was adjustable it was so comfortable and the weight transferred to my hips. But 45 pounds was still 45 pounds. Now my big 3 pack, sleep system, tent, and #4 my cook system come in at less than 6 pounds. You can't expect to carry heavy weight or mid weight in a ultralight pack. I assume the pocket volume is included in pack volume. It's all part of the pack.

@jonriordan649 4 месяца назад

I used one on my PCT thru, last year. Mine started to delaminate, badly, after 6 weeks of use. Did you have a similar experience?

@Simon-ri2ez Месяц назад

Thanks for adding the weights in metric! 😁😁

@eric_hanson 4 месяца назад

Kind of feels like you were talking about me in your intro Steven! haha, great video! I may have some things to consider...

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

I totally wasn’t but some others did mention you in the comments. Haha. I need to try Mystery Ranch too. Maybe we can trade

@jpriddle 4 месяца назад

That Bonfus is so ultralight, you couldn’t even see it in the original lineup! Love this overview. It’s funny how misunderstood this class of packs are to those who don’t have experience with them. I’m one of those weirdos who hasn’t even put on a “traditional” pack in years. I believe the pseudo-standard for pack capacity testing is ping pong balls, oddly enough. Also, most pack makers list the internal vs external volumes of their packs. It is all over the place! From their websites: Arch Haul: 50L (37L main body, 2.5L each side pocket, 8L center pocket) Southwest: Internal 55L, External 9.8L Mariposa: Main Pack Body to Extension Collar Seam 36L, Spread Across 7 Exterior Pockets 24 L Minimalist V2: Body 2441 ci | 40 L Extension Collar 550 ci | 9 L Exterior Pockets 610 ci | 10 L Kakwa 55 Internal Volume (S / M / L) 43L / 46L / 49L - External Volume (S / M / L) 15L Framus 50L internal volume, 8L external pockets

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

I should have gone looking for this info. Based on my test it all sounds pretty accurate except the Minimalist and the Mariposa can both hold much more than they claim. But they might start getting top heavy.

@jpriddle 4 месяца назад

@@MyLifeOutdoors Re-reading my comment, I meant to say the measurement standards are all over the place. 😃

4 месяца назад

Should have added the load carrying capability. It matters especially on water carry. Not everyone can go from water source to another two times a day.

@jpriddle 4 месяца назад

@ Yes! Weight capacity is very important, too. As a frequent desert hiker, I can relate.

4 месяца назад

@@jpriddle Just filling 15 litres of water bottles for a 3-day desert hike. That’s 33 lb + gear. 🤜🤛 Edited: with only gear I could make it work with 38L pack but for load carrying capacity, I’m taking a 75L one.

@hhamilton1970 4 месяца назад

I bought a zpack bag and I like it.. I don't love it, but the lightweight definitely does help on long hikes

@damiano_damiano 4 месяца назад

great video thanks 🙂 I have an Osprey Exos 38 which without the brain (which is actually removable) weighs just 1 kg (2.2 pounds). An ultralight backpack to be worth calling ultralight must be at least weigh around 0.5 kg (500 g / 1.1 pounds): that's why I went for the Liteway Eq. 35 Liters, with its 420 grams (0.92 pounds) seemed the perfect choice! Unfortunately the Osprey Exos 38 is much more comfortable anyway... and at the end of the day 500 g / 1.1 pounds is equivalent to half a litre of water... in my opinion the gain in lightness is not worth the loss in comfort.

@bassmutt11 4 месяца назад

Love KS Ultralight packs. Mine is a 67L, framed with tons of back padding, and water resistant. 1.5lbs :)

@festorfamine 4 месяца назад

Left out the pack that's the most popular on all thru-hike. ULA circuit.

@natehoover5266 4 месяца назад

I've only been backpacking for 3 years. I bought the REI Flash 55 first and I love the water bottle pocket. Super underrated feature imo. Then I bought the Kakwa 40 when it came out and it's pretty good but barely big enough for me. Both of which I thought could have bigger mesh pockets. Maybe the Kakwa 55 is a better option but I'd love a Zpacks or Mariposa. Which of all these in the video has the biggest mesh pocket?

@stevenbrewer8788 4 месяца назад

I love my gossamer gear Mariposa. It fits my torso perfectly, has padding in all the right places, and I like the extra space, so I don’t have to be so particular about how I load it up:)

@Mainostus 4 месяца назад

Thank you for adding the weight also in metric! Love from 🇫🇮

@matthewhein9012 4 месяца назад

After a shoulder injury a few years ago I switched to the minimalist v2 for the trail running harness instead of normal shoulder straps. Easily the best gear decision I’ve ever made. One of the most comfortable backpacks I’ve ever carried in the 30 something years I’ve been backpacking.

@natlovell122 4 месяца назад

I’m rocking a Mountainsmith Scream 55 I got for $88 on sale. It’s a little under 3 lbs and comfortable.

@collinmc90 4 месяца назад

I wish I had gotten into this back when I was doing a lot of hiking trips. These days I'm just down to simple over nighters or motocamping. Just taking it easy and avoiding the crowds is my goal now.

@HitechProductions 4 месяца назад

I have a granite gear vapor trail that I really like. I weighed it at 32oz and it was only $60. That was used, but it gave me the courage to modify it to make it perfect for me. :^)

@2649 4 месяца назад

I’m looking at my first pack and was debating going lighter but still need it to be able to pack some heavier loads comfortably. As a European a lot of the US brands are not available or extremely expensive. Currently I’m leaning towards the Mariposa. Do you think it’s a good pack to start out with or are there any other good options you’d recommend? Also looking at the Osprey Exos Pro 55 but I’ve also read about some big downsides with some poor design choices.

@ZeberkoPoland 4 месяца назад

Check out the Gregory Focal 48L. It's the twin brother of Exos, but better designed. The only thing it lacks is quick attachment of poles. while walking. I use it and I'm very happy that I don't look towards UL

@jamesbramlett5407 4 месяца назад

❤ my Kakwa 44 - it's almost perfect for

@billseay6399 4 месяца назад

Me to.Hey thanks great info love it big guy

@jamess7181 4 месяца назад

ZPack volumes include pockets, not just main compartment - as detailed on their specs and website. Main compartment on a 55 is actually 42 by memory.

4 месяца назад

The ZPacks Rc Haul 60l is even listed to "only" fit 47l in the main compartment on their website. 8l are in the mesh and 2.5l on the sides each. So that's really not a surprise. That you could fit 60l (without closing) is the real one 🙂

@vzmichael 4 месяца назад

Love The water-based pack, volume check! 💦 I have always wanted to see that done.

@mitchellyork2890 4 месяца назад

Have you checked out any of the packs offered by Granite Gear? I have used the Crown3 for the last 2 years and it is the perfect hybrid between traditional and ultralight. Granite Gear also carried a ultralight pack as well. Would love to see your feedback on their gear, thanks!

@gregmortonoutdoors 4 месяца назад

I tried to go with the SMD vest on their Swift V and it did not work for me. I was absolutely disappointed with the pack. I picked up some of their S straps before Christmas in the hopes I can salvage the pack for this year. However, I have a feeling it will end up in a gear consignment shop.

@jeffreycarman2185 4 месяца назад

Thanks for the video.

@silvermediastudio 4 месяца назад

Nice review. You kinda missed Darwin's Evolve Ranger though.

@justjonoutdoors 4 месяца назад

One of these days you need to review the OV Shadowlight - my Shadowlight 60 is my favorite pack for many reasons.

@RobertSmith-up9rz 4 месяца назад

In my opinion the Durston is the best compromise between comfort and weight. I just wish it had an ice axe loop, choices of color, and that the zipper in the side pocket be removed (it's useless).

@TheNypenfan 4 месяца назад

One of my gripes with packs is that you really need to read the descriptions to see how big it really is. My ohm 2.0 is 63L, but the main body is 34L, and the rest of the pockets add up to 63. Works well for me, but something you need to know. So the arc haul by comparison would be a total of like 80L if they measured the same way. It’s confusing.

@oscarcan-ammotocicletta148 3 месяца назад

Hey! Have you already tried out the Durston Kakwa 55 Pack? I think about buying this pack together with a ZPacks Duplex Zip, for my 3.000 km. Te-Ararora journey through New Zealand this year!

@gregvanpaassen 4 месяца назад

Had several packs over the years, starting back when Cordura was the leading edge in advanced textiles. Currently using a Kakwa 55 in medium. It's perfectly fine for up to 16 kilograms but 19 is too much. Not the most comfortable pack I've ever had but among the best (with an almost-deflated air mattress as lumbar padding). Surprisingly tough and durable, except for the velcro for the frame pocket. I considered the Atom Packs "The Mo" before buying the Kakwa. Perhaps I'll get one to try... Another (not quite ultralight but impressive) pack is the Osprey Exos Pro 55. My step-grandson now has one of those. Load lifters are a must for me, but my wife now has both sizes of the Southwest and loves them. And it's amazing what comes out of them when she sets up camp! There are at least a couple of kids who are convinced the Southwest is a magic bag, bigger on the inside than the outside.

@kevinstarski1598 4 месяца назад

Magic bag without magic straps lol

@CindyinNewMexico 4 месяца назад

I have an Outdoor Vitals Shadowlight 60 that works great for me. I haven’t seen anything else that I would switch to, especially for the price.

@midwestmikeonahike 4 месяца назад

Sure hope that water didn't go to waste! Curious why you didn't include the Flash 55? Definitely lighter than some of the ones you profiled.

@MichelleHoffman-je1ck 4 месяца назад

Was expecting to see ula packs here

@ImGonnaMake 4 месяца назад

I'm a sweaty boy, so back ventilation is non-negotiable with my pack. At 41 oz. and $250, the Gregory Focal 58 has been serving me well for a couple years now.

@tamiboelter5491 3 месяца назад

I really enjoyed this!

@erueru2014 4 месяца назад

I have tried different ultra light packs, and they have their use. But on most of my hikes I have to carry food for 14 days and can not get my pack under 15 kilo (33 lbs), and when you are build like a skeleton like me it quickly becomes very uncomfortable, so I use my trusty Atmos AG 50 liter, it's a bit heavier but the comfort is so good that it's worth it. On hikes with 10 kilo (22 lbs) or less I will use a lighter backpack.

@LousyFIBs 4 месяца назад

I like that "Mutley" laugh at the end...lol

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

By pure coincidence

@katejam4223 4 месяца назад

I really appreciate that you put up metric conversions, but might want to check your sums on the ‘just over 3lb’ Six Moon Designs, it’s way more than 889g :)

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

I think some of my titles got switched and I just didn’t catch it

@georgecrosby2549 4 месяца назад

Internal capacity of the main compartment is not the same as advertised overall capacity. Pretty sure thats not news to anyone. I enjoyed seeing them all filled up. Now for the super cut slapping the jiggly packs.

@ropersix 28 дней назад

A fun capacity test, and one I've contemplated doing myself. However, for those who may not know, different companies measure pack volume differently, by including or not including all the outside pockets. Six Moon Designs, for example, claims the Mariposa's main body is only 36L (up to the extension tube), and then adds on the volume of the outside pockets to reach 60. Dan Dursten makes a general claim of about 15L for external pockets, etc. So you do have to do some research, to figure out if a pack will hold what you want, the way you want.

@andrewhunter6536 2 месяца назад

What you think of the new black diamond beta lite? It also has the running vest design thing

@YeoYolo 4 месяца назад

Ive been currently on the hunt for a well made, durrable poncho that also has tarp rings so you can turn it into a tent. Im genuinely thinking of ditching my tent if i find a good enough one. Anyone have any suggestions? I plan to wear the poncho a lot so if it weighs a lot i wont mind as ill be using it 24/7 on the trail.

@nazzelnut 4 месяца назад

Don’t forget about LiteAF backpacks. I’ve been using my 40L custom pack for the past few seasons, about 30 days of backpacking. My base weight is right around 12lbs

@davidshirley6850 4 месяца назад

Would love to see a review of the waymark backpack

@TicoFAm_outdoors 4 месяца назад

Hi. So what happened with the Waymark ultralight pack?. Any reason not to included in your tests? You have videos in the past given it a great review. Now is not even mentioned. Just wondering.

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

No reason not to include it other than time limitations. It’s still a great pack!

@johnphillips3526 4 месяца назад

Nashville Packs does the running vest straps better than anyone. Most comfortable pack I’ve ever used and weighs just over a pound. Pricey though.

@VincentGilligan 4 месяца назад

I’d have a hard time switching from my Osprey Exos 58L. Only 2.7lbs (1243g) and 2.4lbs (1105g) without the lid. It’s extremely comfortable and has amazing ventilation on the back.

@PSnGa 4 месяца назад

I've been using he HMG for years. It's more expensive but it's CF. That makes a difference. It lasts longer, is more water proof and holds up to abrasion very well. As long as you aren't loading 40+ pounds (hello, ultra LIGHT...) it's an amazing pack. I've also got a zpack arc haul for my son and it likewise is fantastic. I wish I had one that would fit me to try the "arc" system. Next pack I get might be a zpack for that reason. No matter what, I'll be getting a pack made from CF.

@philsmith2444 4 месяца назад

Yes, but part of the blame lies with HMG for stating that the Southwest 40, for example, can carry up to 40lb. Physically, yes, but in anything resembling comfort for the hiker? Probably not.

@hanwagu9967 4 месяца назад

@@philsmith2444 the tensile strength of the materials far exceed the stated pack load capacity, so it's designed, if properly fitted and worn, to carry up to 40lbs comfortably. First, you have to define comfort, which many people in this ultralight world means that if it feels heavy it's uncomfortable. Heavy isn't uncomfortable, it's just heavy. Second, I could on and on about how many videos and pix of ultralight hikers I've seen not wearing packs correctly or wearing improperly sized packs. If you aren't properly wearing a pack and/or it's not fitted properly, of course it's not going to be comfortable. With that said, if a pack isn't comfortable up to the max load, then you probably ought to try a pack from some other brand if the target load is up to the max load. HMG's design isn't going to fit properly thus comfortably for everyone, just as another brand's pack won't.

@PSYCH022 4 месяца назад

Great review of these packs. I think one really good option is missing from this list: Granite Gear

@philsmith2444 4 месяца назад

Yes, my Crown2 38, Crown2 60, and Nimbus Trace Access 70 have me about ready to send my Ospreys to new homes. All I need now is a NTA 85.

@sushisacha111 4 месяца назад

Would be interested to know if you had considered Atom Packs The Mo at all?

@seasoldier3902 4 месяца назад

I have bought from across "The Pond" the Zpacks 60 ltr bag. The metal frame bars came out of the holding sockets by the end of each day yomp. For the money, I do not rate it at all. Yes, it is lightweight. Yes, I get my kit in it but the frame isn't secure enough to make it comfortable. The Osprey Atmos AG65 bag is good but it weighs a lot for long-distance multi-day yomps. Just saying!

@nietrelevant3338 22 дня назад

i'll take my extremly comfy ossprey any day of the week, love the reviews though!

@mikeypick1 4 месяца назад

It’s still very comfortable… I think it’s the same fit but maybe the extra size feels slightly different. I can’t put my finger on it yet, but it’s just not quite the same “OMG I LOVE THIS PACK” feeling as the 40.

@maxwellerickson7066 4 месяца назад

2:40 Hey Steven, just wanted to let you know that the Red Paw Packs Front Range 40L is another option in terms of internal-frame ultralight packs with running vest-style straps. No affiliation, just an fyi.

@MyLifeOutdoors 4 месяца назад

Thanks for letting me know

@user-wm6lw8ye7n 2 месяца назад

For my needs i found out SR Flex-Capacitor 40-60 to be the best, with weight of 2 lbs 10 oz. (1.19 kg), serves me well over 2 years now, no cons at all. Ukrainian Carpathians are rough in winter, so extra capacity helps a lot with bulkier warm gear.

@GrandeLoutre 4 месяца назад

SMD is not the only one to make vest strap framed backpack. I don’t it too at Atelier Longue Distance and it is true vest straps 😁

@kevinstarski1598 4 месяца назад

Mystery Ranch Bridger has that chest strap as well...didn't work for me, but just fyi

@Jedwoods 4 месяца назад

I can name another framed pack with that kind of running-vest harness: the Mystery Ranch Bridger. Comes in 35, 45, 55 and 65L versions.

@charliemcdowell5231 4 месяца назад

Meanwhile here I am with my external frame kelty. When I want to go light i just load it lighter and it feels like I’ve got nothing on my back

@wanliyang6511 4 месяца назад

AHA! Water after wind (tent tests)!😂 Really appreciate your “scientific” gear reviews!👍 - if this goes to

@stuminnis4050 2 месяца назад

I have one framed pack (45L, $250) and one frameless pack (35L, $200). Both are comfy AF as long as they aren’t overloaded.

@jhobbz45 2 месяца назад

You should check out the Virga 2 backpack.

@galinswigart 4 месяца назад

I can't speak to it from experience because I haven't purchased a pack without load lifters, but I cannot imagine liking that design. Regardless of base weight, load lifters are critical to properly transfer weight and keep it close to the body. How ever many ounces they add to a design, they are worth it.

@wisenber 4 месяца назад

"Regardless of base weight, load lifters are critical to properly transfer weight " If you don't have much weight, there's no need to transfer it.

@galinswigart 4 месяца назад

@@wisenber that’s not completely true, although if you find it comfortable, I’m jealous of you. Even 10-20 pounds on your back needs to be properly positioned close to the body, with no load lifters, why have a frame or waist belt? Seems to defeat the purpose. Not to mention, even with a very low base weight there are times where longer water carry or extra food for longer trips are inevitable and packs get heavier. I will take the extra 3-5 ounces for load lifters 100/100 times.

@wisenber 4 месяца назад

@@galinswigart It is true. For most people, 10% of body weight and under doesn't require an elaborate suspension to manage. If anything, a rigid or tight pack makes it less comfortable to carry. In the summer, I generally just use one shoulder strap with no thought of a hip belt, let alone load lifters. It isn't until I'm hauling a winter load or a bunch of trail maintenance gear or an elk quarter that a suspension comes into play.