Are We the First Intelligent Life in our Galaxy? with David Kipping 

@@Splucked me too

@@mortytvvv Same here! Cool Worlds and Event Horizons are both my favorite channels on RU-vid! Having them together is Stellar! (pun intended)

100 percent this.

Two of the most soothing voices on RU-vid

2 Kipping podcasts dropped on the same day 😅

Science? Detail just 1 viable hypothesis produced by heliocentrism... make my day

​@@sensualgoat3718all of them

@@SirAntoniousBlock one of my absolute favorite quotes

@@trippyliquids Indeed, and Clarkes three laws. 1. _When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong._ 2. _The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible._ 3. _Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic._ I've tried to live by that second one. 😉

@@SirAntoniousBlock right on thanks for that 😎

@@trippyliquids They're from his book _Profiles of the Future_ a short but cracking read. 👍

@@SirAntoniousBlock Good fiction and describing reality are typically not compatible. E.g. Most distinguished but elderly scientists are stating that it's impossible for there to be no other life in the Universe besides Earth. Clarke's first law would say they're wrong.

You perfectly summed up why we started the channel.

@@EventHorizonShow Well, it obviously worked out as planned. ;)

UFO is not a conspiracy.its reality

@@wheredowegofromhere79 prior to the invasion by the hoards of mind numbingly dumb illiterate savages there was a rather large region in the middle of England where everybody had this specific vocabulary. Some, as I, call it Oxfordian, others quite derogatory call it posh English and others will simply stare at you with a stupid look on their face. That's unfortunately 75 percent of England and about 97 percent of the US.

@@wheredowegofromhere79 Hard disagree. He's got a valley girl accent and zero tenor.

@@helloidharbl6753 Envy much?

Never mind the amazing content!

His name is Kipping.

Kipping*

Yes !!

@@faizanrana2998 hahaha. My poor ability to spell strikes again! ❤️

Agreed but they found us 😊

Beautifully worded like an old Infocom interactive fiction game. Bravo, lizard! ♥

or maybe weve walked into the sequel of an infinite trilogy

I know a guy...

💯

We agree!

We would be in apsolutly better position then now. Just my uneducated observation.

I completely agree with you. Makes sense. But I do wonder if a civilization would just immediately resort to wind and hyrdo power and later solar. That would have a definite impact on how their society evolves. Who knows what that would look like.

This is quite an interesting question! I've NEVER heard anyone speak on the topic. Maybe it'd just add like another 100,000 years to getting to an equivalent of where we are now? Maybe it'd force humanities hand to harness much greener energy sources without even knowing the bullet they'd avoided.

For sure there would be more back breaking, hard work in the field, just to sustain yourself and your family. Renewables are great, but there would be no cars for a while.

@@blakeb9964 could we even invent solar or wind to produce electricity given that it requires mining metals and creating composite materials/ circuit boards etc which would be rather challenging without motorised mining equipment. Can metal be smelted in large volumes using only wood or charcoal?

Assemble!

There’s an octopus garden that was recently found around San Francisco. Just like the Beatles sang 🎤 🎶, maybe part of y’ ( Y’s club) beatlejuice is otw and a 2nd movie 🎥 coming. I just look from a weird view’ a true frootloop 🌈3 days til Christmas 🤶🎄🎅 🌈💯🗽🔥❄️. Because of the WONDERFUL THINGS SHE DOES! I follow GOD, LOVE. And definitely 💯 Peace on EARTH 🌏 AMEN 🙏 (11:26amen)🆙🙌🏖️🎁

Happy you found us. You have years of shows to watch. Let us know what you like!

He’s doing great work. It’s been great to see.

So even Dr.Kippling went over to the dark side now.

@@spiritualanarchist8162 Yeah, imagine actually talking with people you don't agree with on every single topic. You realise that is very cultish behaviour, don't you? I could actually ask what exactly is 'dark' about Peterson or the Daily Wire but I doubt that much sense would come my way if I did. Feel free to demonstrate otherwise.

​@@spindoctor6385 Maybe you shouldn't project so much on so little. And, no , Not listing to Jordan Peterson is not 'cultisch' It's a waste of time.

@@spiritualanarchist8162 So asking a question is projection now, good take champ. I never accused you of anything. The cultish behaviour is refusing to discuss ideas that you don't agree with and demonizing the people who have them instead. I did not know that you were an adherent of that kind of behaviour or if you were just being sarcastic. But now I do. It is telling that you can't find anything specific to criticise Peterson with, he is just on the 'dark side' Don't worry, most people in a cult do not realise they are in one and they die blissfully ignorant

​@@spindoctor6385I agree. I dislike Peterson but I also find it valuable to listen to views different from my own, when people can articulate them. I'm not sure what happened to "liberals" over the last 20 years, they've become as censorious as Christians during the 80s Satanic Panic.

Glad it helps, Greyson.

Exactly. We havent even scratched the surface and we're trying to make blanket assumptions about life in the universe. The Rare Earth Hypothesis barely rises above religous doctrine.

We don’t know. This is a statistical argument.

It's called technosignatures, and we're not looking for life on mars, it's dead. We are looking for signs of life forming there billions of years ago when mars would have had oceans.

​@@avenuePad you need to understand the complexity of life, and the literal millions of things that have to go just right for any complex life to form at all. This isn't star wars.

I think this is argument "from expansion". Life always expand to fill all available nieches, and we always expanded. So it is fairly likely that another civilization driven by curiosity, such as ours, would expand and they wouldn't need much time to colonize the whole of almost whole galaxy, which we would be able to detect.

@@js70371 I find how he pushes the Rare Earth Hypothesis to be infuriating. I guess it's because I know he smart enough to know it's bunk.

​@@avenuePad Earth is rare though.

Rare Earth is 100% the correct opinion 😃

Seriously though, I understand that the possible permutations given the number of stars and the possible number of planets in our galaxy is staggering, but if you really dig into the science of our environment you discover that there is a very specific set of variables that allow us to have liquid water oceans, oxygen rich atmosphere, favorable pressure and temperatures. Just slightly more or less mass, temperature, pressure, different composition, etc and we aren't here. Even If you allow for life to develop in less hospital conditions we likely wouldn't have fire, or be able to develop technology or be able to escape our gravity/atmosphere to launch satellites or space vehicles. We would be limited to a low tech civilization, trapped here by our gravity and or environment. Life in the galaxy could be abundant, but Earth like planets and technological, space faring civilizations could indeed be very rare.

@@avenuePadSo you’re saying he’s outright lying to everyone. He knows the rare earth hypothesis is bunk, but he lies to everyone that it’s not. What’s his motivation for lying? Or maybe some people want a thing to be true, despite all evidence to the contrary?

That's statistically absurd. Alone in the galaxy is debatable, but still a hot take. Alone in the universe is preposterous.

That would make us the great old ones . Or we will become the precursors.

​@@avenuePadWhat are the figures you base your opinion on? I did some napkin calculations and discovered that if you set the probability of intelligent life emerging just a couple orders of magnitude lower, then we being the only ones in the local galaxy cluster is entirely likely, and the only ones in the observed universe within a realm of possibility.

That's a nice little neatly arranged division that is utterly at odds with everything we know about life, it is haphazard ad hoc, sometimes exploding when circumstances are favourable and being annihilated when not.

@@avenuePad Absurd, Debatable, Hot Take, Preposterous... I myself prefer to go with an honest answer like, I don't know... & the best bit is, neither do you.

Ah the good old entangled particle phone, I remember when i was an amatuer. My non-local consciousness just projects to the Andromeda now, just learn meditation my friend. 😊

If there is no life in our galaxy besides us, we will never communicate with an alien intelligence. Looking beyond our galaxy the best case scenario is seeing evidence of a type 3 civilization remaking it's galaxy.....hundreds of millions of years ago.

A world where living cells never diversify in a common body you would have no higher life forms. And our mitochondria are essentially an invasive lifeform. That had never happened we would probably get nowhere.

of all those whistleblowers he's honestly the least trustworthy, only heard stuff by word of mouth and immediately claimed they're interdimensional beings? sure buddy now take your pills

@@AmonTheWitch if you really think that, I respectfully suggest you look again. Proof was given.

@@AmonTheWitchhe has firsthand knowledge. It is being reviewed by DOPSR. It is not just “hearsay” 🙄

@@dherosoen I'm sure some of the stuff he says is correct but the rest is delulu

Who is he, what did he claim, and what is the proof? They last whistle blower claimed, among other things, it was a top secret program, while in reality he obtained permission from Pentagon to speak about it publicly! This is how top secret it was...

Very scary 😱

Snacks !

😂. GO HUMANS!

Hope not.Humans are the worst species in all multiverses.

First phrase our people learn in human speech, "EARTHMAN GO HOME !"

@@sunstardrummerthere’s good and bad news stories everyday. Try and read the good. Blessings and Love to you 🙏

At least some humans

We are violent in ways animals are not. That's unsettling. Is there an intelligence species that's non violent, doesn't kill?

And yet nothing crawled out of it?

Personally, I think life will be the rule, rather than the exception. The building blocks of organic compounds and amino acids exist even in space so they should be available. The question then becomes "What kind of life?" That, I'm afraid, is less optimistic. Life on Earth for most of almost 3 billion years consisted of very simple organisms, most of which were single celled cyanobacteria. The "animals" of the time were likely blind and grazed on the microbes that covered the shallow seas. It is thought that there were no predators for most of this period. It is hypothesized that a prolonged increase in oxygen production crossed a sort of ecological threshold triggering the evolution of predatory animals. This led to the so called Cambrian explosion, a biological arms race of predator versus prey. At this point we have to consider things like the "Great Filters" that come along like asteroid impacts, solar eruptions. and super volcanos. Any of these could result in extinction level events. We know there have been at least five extreme extinction events in the past and humanity was nearly wiped out a mere 74 000 years ago by the Toba super-volcano eruption that left no more than 10 000 individual human survivors. Recent research suggests that there was an even worse event around 930 000 years ago where the early humans of the time, our ancestors, went from approximately 98 000 individuals to approximately 1230 individuals and remained at that low population for around 117 000 years. If this is the case, it might explain how our intelligence developed. Under such severe evolutionary pressure, traits that promoted survival would have proliferated quickly, especially as inbreeding would have accelerated mutation rates. The fact that homo as a genus survived such a severe bottleneck in genetic diversity for such an extended period is nothing short of miraculous. In short, I think that life is common, but intelligent, technologically advanced life is exceedingly rare to the point that we may very well be the first if we manage to survive long enough to reach the stars.

I remote viewed earth 2060. I think we will be more peaceful 😂

@@unvergebeneid your looking for "cool worlds"

He was right. With the Universe being 13.7 billion years old, the earth being 4.8 billion years old, it’s unlikely that there are not plants where intelligent, technologically advanced life would not have evolved before ours.

He was right, but I guess ancient Egyptians weren't very probable either. Someone has to be improbably first.

Stay around 2 billion years we will see 😂

​@@djunclephill422plot twist those milky way machines were created by us