I like how in Invincible, they were allowed to show and entire civilisation being wiped out, but aren’t allowed to show a 20 year old that just happens to look like a child with the same injuries they had earlier
It's crazy to me that this guy can balance his goofy attitude and meme humor with genuinely mature, serious arguments and interesting points while keeping it concise and to the point. Amazing job man.
the bojack horseman auditorium backdrop is actually perfect. seeing other people go through with super slide and thinking "when will it be my turn". Sitting anxiously and excitedly like its about to be your turn in a talent show. Only to realize on stage that you dont want to.
Okay, so why, and how did a COMEDY CHANNEL handle these topics with elegance, respect and seriousness they deserve... while being funny, informative and a great showcase how to handle blend both comedy and serious topics into a fine concoction. Great job dude, amazing video!
I think Evangelion did a good job with Taboos. Yes, even with the "I'm so fucked up." Scene. The one "sexual gratification" element of that scene is only for an extremely brief moment to present context. Then, they make the rest of the scene present the negative consequences. The uncomfortable long silence, the heart monitor, showing his hand covered in glue. The pain in his voice for what he's done. It doesn't stop there. Later in the story they wrap back around and has him face her after she learns what he did through their minds merging, doubling down on consequences and guilt. In short, Evangelion shows the full negative impact of taboo actions and really focuses on the ugliness of the pain they can cause.
Can we talk about how shit youtube’s censorship system is? Forcing people to discuss serious subjects while calling them things like ‘somersault’ and ‘super slide’ if they want to eat is extremely disrespectful, and the level of censorship making it necessary to use such stupid terms is almost invariably worse than just using the actual term (or at least an adjacent one).
While also leaving content that's straight out P*RN untouched I swear to God it's stupidly easy to find things of that matter that just go unnoticed by RU-vid, but saying "suicide"? That's a no no my friend!
I remember seeing a youtube video criticizing 13 reasons why. A bunch of cast members had given interviews talking about how the show was bringing attention to suicide among teenagers. The youtuber though was basically saying "No it's not, its teaching suicidal teenagers that if they kill themselves after making a list of their grievances, people will listen."
This is a really good well made video, but I wanted to add one of my favourite personal examples, from a visual novel called heart of the woods, while not as intense as a lot of visual novels get with taboo concepts, many of them having content warning google docs longer than essays I wrote in first year university, this game uses the character of Morgan to present how she has been pressured and warped by things in the past that happen off screen to make her desensitised to a lot of interpersonal relationships and makes assumptions about the other characters who go to visit her, and only through getting to genuinely know and be close to them can she open up about what happened to her and find ways to move forward and be able to be her own person again, which wouldn't work if not for the uniquely lesbian portrayal of some of these ideas.
I honestly feel like mortal Kombat 1 is a little less violent overall compared to mortal Kombat 11 because it dies have a lot of goofy finishers like Jax turning gigantic and stepping on you and Cyrax exploding the earth, the things like Liu Kang finishers are kind of outliers at least in my opinion. i really when Nitara flies you into the air and kicks your whole intact skeleton out of your body
Yeah, like, Mortal Kombat 1 still has a lot of realism and detail to its gore, but a decent bit of its fatalities are pretty goofy and/or creative (like both of Johnny's, Scoprion's Shirai Ryu gangup, both of Liu Kang's, and most of the Kameo ones)
For the superslide section, I was truly crossing my fingers you were going to talk about Season 3, Episode 8 of Mr Robot, titled ”Don’t Delete Me”. Not exaggerating when I say that this is the greatest and most emotional episode of any show I have ever watched. The series as a whole is phenomenal, so I suggest watching it all the way through, but if you want some more uhhh, very well done superslide content, I can’t recommend this episode enough, though obviously it’s tied to the rest of the series with big spoilers, etc.
Rad Chad i just wanted to say thank you for making this. It's been a rough few weeks and I've seriously considered ending it all especially yesterday. The section on Super Slide hit really hard. I've never seen Bojack Horseman but your commentary on the episode and the poem just. it was really good and moving. thank you.
Are you doing better now? Do you think you can keep the ending impulses in check better, or would more thought-provoking video essays like this help? I know I'm just some guy, but I'm happy you decided to share such an important part of your life experience, and I have enough empathy to be at least a little bit concerned.
@@twaggytheatricks4960 hi thanks i'm doing a little better my friends are trying to help me through it. i've been managing to deny the impulses even though it gets a little hard. if you have other video essays you think would help i'd be glad to check them out
I remember watching the first episode of Goblin Slayer in college and that scene stuck out so much, the girl that gets somersaulted is literally just some random character that gets "saved" and never heard from again, the last shot of her is her with the most vacant expression imaginable. That's the only scene like that in the series bar one much later where goblins go to attack a village full of armed adventurers ready to fight back but they put up shields with kidnapped and brutalized women stuck to them to stop them. Radical Chadical if you wanna see something that truly only exists for shock factor and to repulse normal people and draw in incels, look at redo of healer
Swordmaiden is also there to represent what the trauma can do to a person. She’s one of the most powerful beings in that setting but is rendered completely useless against goblins. The memory is just too much for her.
i read instead of watched goblin slayer and i don't remember that glorification of the somersault from there. i thought he'd bring goblin slayer as a good example of representing trauma from somersault but then he went off on some weird shit the adaptation did on the first episode and concluded its like Redo of Incel.
I just had to outline my own premise for "Healer goes against the job description" [Name withheld] : I will not let ANYONE deal such kind of pains *on me* ... and I know how to handle it, AND HOW TO DELIVERY IT. Yes, pay me half in advance and your vengeance is as good as done.
I agree, Redo of healer is fucking ass The plot is boring and the gore is lame, except for episode 1 and even then, the purpose of gore is only vengeance without questioning it I really think you can do gore without thinking, but here it's not even fun, it's just boring and the character isn't likeable, and not like "He's a good person". I love characters like Scott Pilgrim, Butcher, BoJack Horseman or Omni-Man, but not because they're good people, but because they're flawed people that either : work to better themselves or drown themselves in their doubt/insecurities/desire for vengeance But the guy from Redo of Healer doesn't manage that, he's ass Don't watch this anime
i'm sorry, but it genuinely took me 3 or 4 minutes to figure out what "somersault" was. it really feels like nobody's allowed to talk openly about these real-world problems on this platform, no matter how good the message being spread
Still remember when my school made us read 13 reasons why during the height of the lockdown and i was like "Bro ?¿??? What the fuck I don't think there could be a single worse time to do that!?!?"
Something I notice is that on occasion audiences will believe that media is a good representation of something simply because it has the thing. Even when that media is a gross misinterpretation. Audience understanding I'd a major part of these media projects and of the audience is given the wrong message, they may take that message on into the world.
I am someone who is a fan of the Mortal Kombat series, and I am also a fan of this channel. So let me start off by saying what I am about to say is in no way meant to be negative or hostile towards you, because this was a very good video. I do have an issue with the Mortal Kombat portion. And it's not on the subject of hyper realism from MK's fatalities, because I do believe there is a discussion to be had about the perceived realism and gore of the current games in comparison to the perceived realism and gore of the initial games. No, my issue is MK being present in comparison to every other example in this list. Every other media example present straps the viewer in (for better or worse) for what they are about to see, regardless of how poorly or well done it is the viewer doesnt get a choice. Mortal Kombat 1 and it's violence (for the most part) is optional. The fatalities and brutalities can only seen if the player(s) chooses to perform them, and even on the comparison of old fatalities, those have been brought back in MK1 with Kameos and the player does get the choice to perform them instead. I think a better example about the discussion of MK1 and it's use or lack of purposeful violence would have been in regard to it's story mode. There (with the exception of 1 or 2 scenes) the violence (imo) does serves a purpose to the characters and the story. When it happens it comes from characters who are meant to be vile or hardened, it happens to add weight, emotion, or understanding to a scene. As i said a very good video, but i think you touched upon the wrong aspect of Mortal Kombat in regard to Taboo involving stories and narrative.
@@IneffableMasquerade Did you not read anything. In terms of gameplay it is optional, so for however gorey you might perceive it to be, it is optional and you don't have to partake in it. And in terms of story it comes from or happens to characters you are not meant to like. The point is mute, if you are making the choice to engage with something you find off putting when the game itself gives you an out.
Someone else said it clashes with the more genuine, campy tone of the game which lines up with what he said in the video about some dude talking about peace and then brutally murdering a dude. You can't be silly and completely genuine at the same time.
@@IneffableMasquerade The insane sh*t the majority of characters do in this game for fatalities most people can't do in real life. The fatalities are implausible and ridiculous at their core to even consider doing. So no... I wouldnt say there is no clash to the game's story. The only difference from the ones of today and the ones of the past is a beef up in graphics which makes it more detailed.
I think Omori is also uses suicide in a very good way, being that it never glorifies it, and it’s always the worst case scenario, showing how awful things are afterwards.
the ending was perfect, it broke the tension without being disrespectful. weirdly enough though, hearing about how awful death is, usually makes me *more* suicidal. why? because i think of how horrible it is, that no matter what you do, and you accomplish in life, in the end it will all end in the most final way possible. you will simply cease to be and never think or feel again. and no matter gow far away it is, when it happens, it will happen in the present, and it won't be any different in that sense from what I'm experiencing now. and so i kind of just wnat to get it over with. maybe "break the veil" and finally see if consciousness somehow does survive after death (yes, i am going to therapy, and it is helping, but it is a struggle. i would really appreciate it if the people who see this comment *don't* offer me advice on the subject)
What I hate about sexual abuse in media is how its shown countless times as "comedy" in regular media and its never called out. Whenever I call it out Im just told to ignore it and get used to it, but when I say I like stuff like funger with sexual abuse in it, where its not presented in a good light and it has a trigger warning (I caught that you also know about it I heard that OST backing the fire punch section) thats when people call it out and think its gross to have sexual abuse. But I just see it constantly everywhere presented as comedy, im not against anime fanservice for instance but 90% of it isn't consensual which is the problem. I think sexual abuse SHOULD be shown in media more often, in ways that cant sexually gratify but instead show how the victim is affected so people can get it in their minds that its a bad thing. When so much media presents it as comedy.
I think its unfair to let context slide for games like MK1 when most characters never actually do a fatality as depicted to any other character ever and all the deaths are usually pretty anti climactic. Ultimatly yes its what the series is known for an the comic relif of it is the abaolute implausibility of it working or the person surviving like with x rays. Gore has its purpose beyond use as a plot device which it still serves, seeing people like Shang Tsung be incredibly violwnt makes sense and its fun to see their evil glee or watch them be torn apart. Its fan service and silly and un serious but still helps fill out the grit of the world and i think you are too quick to deny that when i doubt you have a real breadth of knowlege about MK lore and shit especially when even describing them as realistic is super stupid when they are not on any level including anatomy
I also feel like he's just blatantly wrong in saying they're trying to be more disgusting and less goofy in MK1, especially when the first Fatality he shows as an example is Johnny Cage's. Which is intentionally goofier and more toned down, even when compared to MK9 or X. Of course, there are some that are just straight up grotesque like the Thanksgiving Fatality, but most of them in this game are actually a step less violent when compared to MK11. He also notes that they are "pushing to make them more realistic" but that seems like more of a product of graphics getting better than anything else. Again, MK11 would have been a much better example for "overly realistic and grotesque rather than goofy and creative" so I feel like he just used MK1 as an example because he felt like the most recent example would be the best.
Honestly I think you’re missing the point about mortal kombat. the gore-y finishers are FINISHERS for a reason, it’s satisfying as hell to humiliate a difficult opponent in such an over the top-dramatic and sometimes even cartoony way after you worked hard to beat them.
Yeah, but then it clashes with the more genuine, less campy tone of the newer games. Plus the old finishers were a lot more goofy, whereas the ones in the newer games tend towards being straight up horrifying.
@@anonymouslee8542 I think they still are but there's a weird conflict with the next gen graphics and the humorous execution (pun not intended), there's a weird dissonance, it doesn't feel the same as the old ones
While I did enjoy the whole discussion in the Raddest of the Chaddest way, I must say that the wordplay system impressed me a lot. It gets to the point. Great video!
Have no interest in this game but it seems like the tackling of taboo subjects people have been doing over the game consists of justifying incest. Not sure if the game is actually like that, but the people who’ve played it sure are
I think the problem is that the game and its devs don't try hard enough to make it seem like a bad thing at all. They made the characters attractive, they make visually incredible artwork of the characters as if they're some regular cute couple and not two deeply troubled siblings in an awful situation. The game obviously makes them out to be bad people but it seems to glorify their behaviour, like in a bonnie and Clyde sort of way. The cannibalism isn't even audibly questioned much by Andrew and is super glossed over, at least in chapter one as I have yet to go through chapter two. It's painted as very much AndyLeyley Vs the World, not as these two people are really horrible and you should see both of them that way.
@@JustCallMeKart you SHOULD still see them that way, regardless of how "attractive" they are (they're cartoon 2d characters so idek how much someone can really see them as attractive anyways. The game being played from their perspective doesn't mean they are the heroes or in the right. Thats even clearer in chapter 2. People just can't play a game that doesn't put the main character in the wrong anymore, otherwise this whole discussion about the game "justifying" bad and immoral things wouldn't even exist.
you're so genuinely good at knowing when to be funny and when to be absolutely serious, it reminds me of the jojo rabbit film. really good video btw!!!
Very well put together, I was worried for a moment that this was going to be a video glorifying the use of these elements in media, but you did great! Another thing I'd add is, clarity is also very important when it comes to these topics, your audience may not have the experience going into it to understand the nuance, A Man Called Otto is a great example of this!
Honestly my biggest issue with gore in Mortal Kombat is it either needs to commit to dude-bro shock violence or tone it down. Now the fatalities in mk1 are already a lot less gross than the previews 2 games but its still too much for its tone
There is a very big disparity between the tone that Mortal Kombat establishes with its story mode and its characters, and the way those characters act in fatalities. part of me believes that the fatalities are the way they are because the reaction content gold mine is a very profitable thing. You could have the fatalities lean into the campy nature of the rest of the game, but nobody’s gonna wanna make their squeamish girlfriend react to slapstick for quick views. Sidenote, that sub genre of videos where people make their significant other react to fatalities despite their discomfort has and always will be disgusting to me. That however is beside the point. I kinda just wish that the games would roll back to the early era where the fatalities were quick and whether they were going for a disturbing or more funny nature, the speed which they happen and the fact that they’re over within a second or two made them funny regardless.
@@SirLightsOut99 But that's the thing though. To the people of the past how you view fatalities now, is how they viewed them then even with the arcade style nature. The primary thing that changed were the graphics. The best example of this is how there are old fatalities in MK1 via the Kameos, but for many of them like klassic scorpion and sub zero they look brutal AF because of the graphics. It also can be argued that the majority of the fatalities are in line to the personalities of the characters, just only through the perspective of what they would do if they had to do a fatality. Shang Tsung is a perfect example of this and how he revels in his cruelty in his fatalities.
Yeah it’s tonal whiplash to see Liu kang and Johnny cage just being friends and even having banter with eachother before fighting and then just brutalizing eachother like it’s nothing making me question their mental states
Yeah it’s tonal whiplash to see Liu kang and Johnny cage just being friends and even having banter with eachother before fighting and then just brutalizing eachother like it’s nothing making me question their mental states
@@enzoarayamorales7220 But that's kinda how it's always been since the early days, despite what BIOs were listed or narrative we were given you could still fatality who you wanted despite who you played as.
Despite the light hearted approach the intro has already signified a clever and underappreciated understanding of such heavy topics and I'm interested to see the discussion in the rest of the video Edit: AND IT'S A HOME RUN
Okay so I've watched this video 3 times. On to my 4th. I just wanted to say that I really like your content and I really don't know why I've watched this one singular video so much but I find it really inspiring as far as creating goes. I'm a bit stumped so it's really nice watching stuff like this. Thank u! :))
One show that I believe does violence,blood, and gore well is genndy tartakovskys primal. The world is so brutal that both of the main characters children died to the same dinosaur in the first episode. But in between these brutal events there are moments of peace to catch your breath to see how the characters are doing. For a show without a single piece of dialogue you feel for these characters
The final boss of smash bros brawl is also the final boss in the way of social progress Fear of things that would be best handled by just seeing them with eyes of science and making smart and wellhandled depictions in media the only instances of these things ever occuring while also adding content warnings to everything in which it is appropriate. Pro tip: BE NOT AFRAID. That's the only non-outdated piece of advice in the bible, 99% of the rest have always been wrong and outdated. I use reddit sometimes and I have no idea why it would be a bad idea, because I've only seen some funny, sincerely insane in a way that makes taking them seriously impossible or occasionally even wholesome content or even helpful advice about topics I'm interested in.
The only reason why I haven’t superslided is because of the fear of missing out on the endless possibilities that could happen in the future but even with that in mind it’s so hard to hold on when yourself is the one pulling you down.
I feel like not only somersault but sex in general is very poorly used in media, nowadays. Most of the time, it's supposed to be sexually gratifying but just comes off as awkward and uncomfortable to watch, even if everyone involved in the scene consents. Most of the sex scenes I've seen in movies and TV shows so far are just shown for their own sake, without actual meaning or purpose and just end up occupying runtime that was could have been used to advance the plot
Im not one for poems, but during the scene in BoJack, where they read "The View from Halfway Down" i got chills, its such a powerful poem, and nothings ever gotten to me like that since.
Jesus fucking Christ this video is so well done, please keep this momentum going because you’re one of the best video essayists I’ve gotten the joy of experiencing in a really long time
Love how you used humour to respectfully show these topics without being disturbing. Way too many videos try to edit this stuff to make it extra disturbing
Man i love Monosodium Glutamate, cant live without it, every day, every night, me and my family always use it in our daily live. Some said it's "not good for you" or it's "gonna kill you" but they're just haters, Monosodium Glutamate is the best thing humanity have ever created.
This is a great video. I especially enjoyed the section of mortal kombat, and the entire time I was just thinking about half-life during that section too. Probably the only fps game that, in my opinion, actively punishes players for senseless killing. Not only is it ammo that could’ve been used for a legitimate threat, but scientists can give you health, and security guards have infinite ammo to use. Hell, the two first things that you learn in unforeseen consequences, one of the earliest chapters of the game, is that the scientists are genuinely helpful, and that if combat can be avoided, it should be.
I never understand why people write and draw about that shit in such a disrespectful manner, especially in manga, if I had a nickel for everytime I've stopped reading manga because of disrespectful topics I'd have 75 cents or so.
I never saw the goblin slayer's negative parts of showing somersault, I really just saw the those dirty griggers doing something bad, and now that I think about it, wtf?
Just saw Short of Omni-Man receiving the Thanksgiving Fatality Someone said ot was the worst watching experience he had First reply? "IT'S MK, BRO" Someone theorized the victim FLUIDS turned to gravy *AND I WILL EMBRACE IT*
I think the part on suicide is great but I think not many media capture the feeling that as much as there are the chances of good experiences in life that will never happen if you die the fear of the negative experiences can sometimes out weigh the positives at least to me and I know many people will say that without the downs in life the ups will feel empty but the inevebility of the downs in life can sour the feeling of wanting to feel the ups. Anyways great video :)))
