Plagiarism and You(Tube) 

thank you burger guy

Lmao

Thanks Hbbomberguy

Thank you Harris Bomberguy

Nice. Looking forward to the donut in the next one.

well, do you?!

This is one of those questions that give you an existencial crisis, both for the question and why it was asked

Lol

Well shit, that's going to be my reply to everything now.

Destroyed with facts and logic

It's probably plagiarized

what a huge snub to "most fuckable twink"

what is?@@SomeMaoriDude

@@Sorreltail768 The quote mentioned above

I think calling Lukiepoo “the most fuckable twink,” might’ve been an even better line

LITERALLY LMAO I can’t wait for when he releases a video about Minecraft and it turns into why PopularMMO’s went to jail or something lmao

Anybody knows what joke that got stolen from him he was talking about??

@@Pllayer064 Probably one of the ones he stole from Stuart Lee lol

​@@visionvampire1910 What happened with him?

@@durnsidh6483 just the whole spiral he went on after him and Jen broke up, alcoholism and getting arrested and such. Didn’t mean an it as an actual example, but certainly the type of thing he’d deep dive into lol

The way he is so fucking smug in his videos like “of course there’s quotes in it nyuhh” and without skipping a beat goes to this sad “if you want to unsubscribe from me for missing a source that’s okay 🥺” is insane

Yeah, like, tell us how you really feel, James

It's sad, too. I appreciate my gay friends because I can have safe, real friendships and community with them without the constant bs you get around the straights. So to realize just how deeply some of them still internalize misogyny has been hard. Some gay men still see women as sex objects, just sex objects they don't WANT and therefore worthless. Which is just the same way straight men treat women they aren't attracted to anyway. They aren't interested in a woman's perspective or opinion because it's not coming from someone they value in that way. I am lucky that a good number of my friends are still very cool people who have avoided this sort of energy, but I've definitely caught a lot of misogyny and misogynoir from some folks in the community.

@@jazwhoaskedforthiswait until you discover the racism within the queer community

i just love the adding of "white" in front of it as if it was a) believable in any way that he doesn't feel this way ab non white women too and b) that even if that were the case, it would somehow be less misogynistic? like dude you're also white don't appropriate genuine criticisms of poc people for your irrational hatred of women

"Ship of Thesaurus" makes this comment so much better

A++

I actually read that as "theseus" twice before I finally noticed the pun

​@@Demi_Purple I had to read the first reply twice over to notice the pun...😅

I'd give you money for this comment if I could

@@tobyriecke3972 James Somerton

He technically didn’t deleted it (he purged everything from it) but he might as well have

Brilliant stuff fr 😂

@@arnahunas4048He’s gonna try casually come back in future like nothing ever happened

Totally read that in Hbombs voice 😂

"Sometimes, I wish I could be more than just an accessory to these women." -Mephiles the Dark, Sonic 06 Snapcube Fandub

AINT NO FUCKING WAY WHEN WE SEEIN HIS GAMER PAD

​@@Toast-comMemphis Tennessee, you mean. And he's part lizard

​@@malachiatkinson7245 He's also vape smoke and contained in the perfect shape

“That just makes you a beta cuck…”

Oh thank god I thought it was just me

My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

I'm still waiting for the video where he makes a doughnut (if you don't know what I mean stick around after the credits)

One of my favorite things about this video is the shot at 2:30 when Harry sets down a copy of Analog on top of some other books, those books foreshadowing the instances of plagiarism he'll be talking about

​@@maddieS117 oh man I didn't notice that, that's so good

was literally thinking this myself

*whispered* absolutely... DE-STROYYYYYYEEEEEEEEDDDDD

LMAO

There some gay guys who are quite comfortable being mysoginist bc theyre gay (like they justify being a mysoginist bc theyre are gay. They just dont say it straight out)

It almost feels like he's bitter about women taking all the "good men" from him Idk if that's actually the case but it just feels way too bitter to not be personal

Not sure if it's better or worse that most business majors (not sure where he graduated from) actually do take ethics classes as part of the degree program.

@@kayakr17im convinced they use them to get around actually using ethics

​@@DeathbatOfSpadeswe do

I dunno, maybe if they paid attention in high school English, they may have caught enough to be less shit.

@@kayakr17 Lots engineers do as well, but then the Department will basically be financed by the Military Industrial Complex anyway.

Hope you’re doing well!!❤️

@@kinsey7894 I am, this was years ago, but thank you!

yup. passive voice vs. active voice. it's really poor writing, too. "joe changed the lightbulb" vs. "the lightbulb was changed." "i threw your dead mom's porcelain music box against the wall" vs. "your music box broke." "we started arguing and i demanded to see your phone, and you wouldn't show me, so i beat the crap out of you" vs. "an altercation that arose from a verbal argument." like the fight was born spontaneously as opposed to an action that was taken. active voice claims the action in a very literal way, and it can be _deeply_ uncomfortable to have to describe things you're not proud of that way. i think a lot of people honestly don't realize they're doing that. i recently went through a phase where i watched a lot of circuit court cases, criminal misdemeanor cases, bond revocation hearings, sentencing hearings, parole hearings, etc. over the course of several months, i can think of 2 times the defendant/parole applicant used active voice and didn't externalize the blame at all. even when they're pleading guilty or trying to explain what they learned from victim awareness classes - they're physically in the process of admitting out loud to what they did - they still really struggle with it. they frequently try to share blame to make it easier on themselves. "i was in the wrong because i shouldn't have allowed myself to be in that situation." what situation? the one where your son had a super punchable face? it's a dance of evasiveness. it's "the incident." it's "what happened." it's "what we [my victim and i] did." it's "we were fighting. i agreed to take the blame because she's pregnant." they also like to frame the victim as being unreliable by including extraneous, unflattering details. combined with passive voice, this very successfully obfuscates the actor in the situation. "my wife and i were fighting because of her drinking problem." "we got into a fight because she was jealous of my coworker, she thinks i was flirting with her." this is _technically_ correct, so when their wife almost inevitably gets her hackles up about it, _she_ looks and feels like the unreasonable one. and in a reality where she _is_ the unreasonable one, she is the reason he was cited for a domestic assault, or whatever happened. (i'm thinking of a handful of specific cases, but women can be abusers and men can be victims. just for the record.) anyway! you were really insightful to realize that's what was happening - it's a word game - and i'm glad you got away from that person. you deserve control over your own reality.

I’ve also noticed another context in which that phrase applies: assault. Sexual or otherwise, you see a lot of language that reframes instances of assault as almost being a force of nature instead of a decision made by a person. This basically always leads to victim blaming in someway. “If you hadn’t worn that/walked there/gotten drunk/hung out with those people, then that wouldn’t have happened to you” no, what you mean to say is that “if I hadn’t done something wrong, then a person wouldn’t have made the decision to assault me” but you can’t say that because you don’t know if that’s true or not. People love to pretend that assault is predictable enough to avoid. Get flood insurance if you live in a tidal area. Dress modestly if you’re around men. One of these sentiments can help you avoid something tragic. The other is trying to convince you that somebody’s actions were done by magic.

You’re welcome

i still can't believe he thinks that. gay men obviously have it horrible too but i know from experience that when people see you as a lesbian they treat you like dirt, it's not "more accepted" than gay men.

That's a thing we call ✨PROJECTION✨

He's clearly been disposed of by a woman, but it most likely was more to do with being trash than gay.

Gay. But seriously haha i dont get why he thinks hes immune to misoginy and that women deserve no sympathy in queer circles. Its puzzling

@@Froggeh92 it's kind of a prevalent issue within the queer community. I know a lot of gay men who seem to think that they are immune to being sexist, and blame women for all issues they face within society

That is fairly typical of the misogynistic mindset, sadly enough.

It's just misogyny, it's very common with male homosexuals for a whole laundry list of both traumatic and vane motivations. He probably thinks so little of women that he doesn't care that, that's what he's doing.

I watched this video so often i just love that there are regularly nrw top comments So that i can read new stuff for my 14th warch

bro they do have it easier. Than _anyone_ You are literally crusading for them right now and don't even fuckn know it. Most demographics don't, in fact have an army of citizens protecting them from the basic social accountability the rest of society is held to.

@@SuperPhunThyme9 is it really easier to believe that queer people, a people that have been oppressed throughout most of recorded history, are now shadow puppeting society for their army so that they have it better than ANYONE else. OR the people that have held the dominant power throughout most of recent history have been making everyone else's lives worse for their own personal gain using their literal armies that they currently have right now

Be sure to do stuff like mispronounce Somerton and just say the wrong word entirely here and there

just came up with a fantastic four hour long video idea for plagiarism

something came to my mind to produce a four hour long video speaking about plagiarism

I think I think i saw that one, actually. It was one of the many sources i used in my 4 hour long plagiarism documentary. There was this annoying stuff in the corner i had to blur out though

@@SylviaRustyFae Jamie Somérton

We’re next

Them'll

just trying to live my life in a way where neither Harry Brewis nor Dan Olson ever have a reason to absolutely ether me online

The Ronan Farrow of video essayists

id do it tbh. not the plagiarism part. just having blatantly pirated stuff in my source list because it's funny and i

⁠@@remingtonn_ wow you’re so quirky

@@salt3685 ty bbg

I'm honestly not that mad about it since modern streaming services are such horsesh*t. At least $15 a month, but you still get ads, even though no commercials was why people left cable in the first place. It's pirate time~

​@@remingtonn_I don't have anything against piracy (unless it's indie stuff being pirated) but people who make it apart of their personality are some of the most obnoxious around.

Besides, we all know Contrapoints is the one good lib.

the serfs has brain damage lol

oh my god I didn't even notice that LMAO

In the end credits, Legal Eagle is credited as "The Good Lib" and I died laughing.

I kept on thinking I was mishearing other people's voices till the credits lol. Tantacrul cameo made me loose it

A good lesson taught poorly is worse than not being taught at all. A bad lesson taught well does more harm still.

Hah like they would put in that much effort

My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

@@Pedro_Larroza I’m guessing these “friends” didn’t stay around long after?

Or it is their version of Paper Towns, so they will know when someone plagiarizes them, because if Illuminati is an example, they REALLY don’t like people stealing the things they stole.

Which one? After this dropped people looked and found *all* his non-internet related historical videos were plagiarized.

​@@crazyinsane500 OP said they read the article that WAS plagiarized, not watched an IH video. they read the man in the cave story, the original one.

@@reda-exe yes!! The one by Lucas Riley. I 100% recommend the read

R​@@reda-exe

@@crazyinsane500oh no really? I am not surprised but man that’s really bad

If he didn’t do anything wrong he would have tried to defend himself instead of pretending like it never happened

I think it is ironic how similar this is to that CNN video Internet Historian made then deleted. He criticized CNN for suing that redditor or whatever, but it turns out that was wrong. Then he takes the moral high ground and blasts them and being shocked that they didn’t give an apology. 😂 I guess he has the same moves when that tables are turned.

Same thing with Somerton. He keeps claiming that he simply forgot to credit people because of his ADHD (as if that’s a reasonable excuse to being with) yet has spent years trying to hide his plagiarism and silence anyone who notices. That’s not the actions of someone who made an honest mistake; that’s someone who knows he did something wrong and is trying to cover it up.

Yeah that part hit like a mack truck

I missed this part. Whos Patreon?

​@@Peapodzilla2:30:45 you'll get the info there.

@@Peapodzilla someone who subs to James Somerton's Patron found out that he literally stole her intellectual property

I actually gasped out loud.

wait what srsly??? i just finished this video and know no follow up

@@sylvan-dreams He deleted everything and ran the day after this video came out.

​@@glyph1869 In his apology video that just came out, he says he wants to bring it back. 🍿🍿🍿

​@@cadekachelmeier7251 I hope he gets flooded with copyright claims

@@cadekachelmeier7251Lol. Lmao

i think this coming from someone with mspa reader as their icon makes it even funnier

That’s just knowing his audience

Me playing Elden Ring while listening to this:

He'd never think of something that original

TOOT TOOT Toxic Gossip Train pulling into the station yet again!

​​@@surpriseandterror9698i was JUST going to say that I hope it includes a ukulele 😂

"I'm not a plagiarist, I'm just an archivist!"

he has a second channel called gays behaving badly and the comments are still open.

first I wasn't not sure, but it turns out that this is actually a good comment

yeah! if you see this, hbo: it's never felt like a weird phrase to me at all, even used so frequently. it comes off as a natural expressive hallmark of your style. (if you'll let me cook) it gives the impression you're just passively observing and drawing connections along with us as you present info, always returning the personal reaction to the public story unfolding; you leave your agency in the way you investigate and uncover info, and the way you reflect on the implications of people's behaviour, but you let the facts and patterns of people's behaviour just 'turn out'. I think people sometimes overemphasise style, when most of us are really craving substance, idk. I often ramble insufferably (as above) and I get that as a public creator you're concerned with being easy to parse, but the real quality of good writing is being able to convey your perspective in a connected way. hbomb comes off as a real conscientious, careful guy and that goes a long way imo. hm, makes me think, though - about the genre of 'video essays'. they don't generally have very good writing... obviously there are loads of dogshit video essayists, but even the 'good' (imo) ones aren't great at making cogent, connected points and theses. they're more loosely connected interesting observations and incomplete explorations; fodder for you to idly absorb. the tropes everyone makes fun of are exactly to do with this lol. careful composition that's reluctant to just make a clear point.

This is a gold star comment.

hbomberguy wasn't lying That it really do turns out

People dont think it be like it is but it do

also "queer women get to represent themselves in media" is the funniest fucking thing I've ever heard considering that the most popular "type" lesbian media is created by and for the pleasure of straight men.

They can be true at the same time. You are in fact discriminated against and you shouldn't feel invalid about that. However men's gayness is often more discriminated against then women's. In fact, several countries in the past and present only criminilize men's homosexuality, it's one of the best examples. But it can also manifest differently because of the overlap of discrimination and intersectionality. All of this to say, it's not completely wrong to say that gay men have it in average worse than gay women. It's a different story for trans people though.

​@@kosuzumotoorithis is true but it doesn't deny the fact that Somerton was intentionally dismissive because he really does think women and queer women have it "way" easier than queer men. He was just saying the same old misogynistic rethoric that a lot of gay men like to believe they aren't a part of. Not to mention he seemed spiteful and jealous like it wasn't men who put those rules for (gay) men in the first place. He may be right to say queer women have it "easier" but the way he said it sounded like he was putting the blame on women and shaming them thus people like OP think their experiences are invalid.

@@kosuzumotooriGay wom3n get graped (remove the g) and are forced to marry abusive men who 'beat' the gay out of them. Gay men face legal repercussions more because they're still seen as people while women are seen as property to be controlled. Gay men and women both go through struggles. Stop playing the 'who gets discriminated the most!" game. It's tedious, usually never accurate, and just further divides us.

@@kosuzumotoori But even for trans people a similar thing happens. There's this notion that if you're a trans man you don't experience any transphobia that matters and that you have male privilege so your life is as easy as a cis man's. I've seen this argument too many times for it to be coincidence. Yes, trans women are more likely to be murdered and assaulted, usually by cishet men, especially if they work in the sex industry, and the attitudes transphobia media outlets have towards trans women vs trans men are different (trans women are predators, while trans men are usually 'confused victims'). But that still doesn't mean they aren't kicked out, disowned and denied healthcare at a similar rate, not to mention how trans men usually still have a functioning uterus and have important reproductive rights that are always referred to as 'women's issues' to add insult to injury. And anyone who dares to describe pregnancy, abortion, certain cancers and menstruation as something 'people' experience, get accused of hating women, so medical establishments keep excluding trans men and NB people with uteruses, making them less likely to book appointments for important things like Pap smears.

not even an ikea bookshelf. an *argos* bookshelf. that's a whole new low

this youtube also got busted for plagiarizing the same way so that is some irony

Imagine being caught plagiarizing by someone who quarter-assedly listened to your video while he was building a bookshelf. Fantastic

@@jesseerven4859 ?

@@jesseerven4859 hbomberguy? Where have you read this?

Underrated comment

My farts are better than hbomberguy’s farts 💨

@@p-__i will piss in your petrol tank

​@@p-__how do these bots not realise that they're just helping hbomberguy get more engagement with their spam

​@@dhruvtukadiya My guy please don't respond to the bots

lol

yeah as a fellow trans guy i understand not being intimately attracted to someone because of their genitals but it's shitty to make a big deal out of it

​@@bobbsurname3140curious

Experienced this as a gay woman and it's incredible how many gay guys think they can't be misogynist 'cause they're gay.

Yeah! I think a thing a lot of people miss in the fun of dunking on This One Guy...is that he got away with it so long partly because he's not unique at all in *this.* Too many queer people think that being queer in and of itself makes you automatically immune from criticism for anything besides garden variety homophobia. We don't have to do any work to unlearn any internalized stuff relating to transphobia fatphobia racism, misogyny if we're gay! And you can basically get away with it all too often especially if you find a way to frame your prejudices as either stemming from deep personal trauma or as actually something super woke. (I'm not shitting on these women I made up to get mad at because I have a problem with them, but because they um. These tooootally real people erased queer men in this show or movie!!! They're homophobic!!) Like, maybe James has had bad experiences in the past with straight girls mistreating him in high school but even if he did, so what?? Lots of people do and manage not to still blame women for all your problems years later. Or be somehow both mistakenly-misogynistic and also transphobic at the same time to at least two different transmasc creators. At a certain point as an adult you have to stop using your own personal neuroses and history as a free pass to treat people like shit or spread harmful ideas.

Multiple someones, it seems.

yep.

True

My re-watch today!

wait who is 3mil? internet historian? i thought he had more

Lel true

@@geekzombie8795 he is gay because he hates women that is true

Who said that?

​​@@chud-of4ybnobody, its a meme

@@chud-of4yb I'm not sure a gay man ever said that, but "political lesbianism" is a thing in radical feminism and basically boils down to "I'm a lesbian because I hate men."

Genuine sociopath behavior, gradually developing a relationship with someone he always intended to ruin if things got hot. Watching him deliberately set Nick up whenever plagiarism was mentioned is chilling. I’m deeply glad HBomb went out of his way to show that Nick was going to be scapegoated so Somerton doesn’t get to play that card and Nick doesn’t get his career ruined.

@@naten1570 I'm glad this video is getting as much attention as it is, him & others must be held accountable. It is not simply about plagiarism, these people are beyond toxic - dangerous even

The way he was always so darkly, eerily lit in his videos seems very fitting in retrospect.

I'm surprised how fast he turned off comments and deleted his social media.

​@@Skelath lol he took the flight response instead of coming up with one. far easier than writing an explanation, i suppose.

read this comment while turning it on to go to sleep

@@katie-8452 Same

I have a sleep playlist that's literally just this and three Folding Ideas videos

Same! Good night 💤

Yeeeeep.

He was in the original thumbail just less visible

I also find it kind of interesting how Internet Historian helps show who can get away with plagiarism and who can't. Channels like James Somerton who tried to act professional and scholarly or Blair who had courted a mostly progressive audience that cares about ethical practices and quality research got completely unexisted, while guys like Lukiepoo, Internet Historian or the dozens of content farms or alt-right propaganda outlets that have gotten aired out in the many plagiarism exposed videos that have come out after this have all just kind of kept chugging along. They all courted an audience that doesn't really care, Internet Historian's twitter followers seem to think that Harris is just part of a Jewish conspiracy to take him down, why would they care about plagiarism? You can just get away with plagiarism so long as you don't have fans who would care about it, they'll stand by you and act like it's no big deal.

"But where did the mistaken weight for the rock come from!?" lol ... I am genuinely curious though. Dear hbomberguy, please make a follow up video if you find out, thanks.

​@@SnakebitSTIif you convert pounds (the currency, not weight) to dollars, you get 33. This is information that I definitely found out myself and didn't plagiarise from another comment that I can't find anymore.

Didn’t ask + hbomber steals my content so he can get more money and views..

​@@ville__Did he steal the milk your father was looking for too?

@@ville__ The only content you have is is posting that repeatedly lol

It was me. I was just so angry at. Uh. Gamers

My favorite comment

​@@JonathanSicoligaming racists

​@@JonathanSicoliis it because they're going woke and shoving the woke agenda down your throat?

It's always the straight white women!

Make this video required watching, lmao. 5 classes should about cover it?

What's the fanfic?

@@Bruh-zx2mc oh man looking back on it it's really quite bad writing. I've gotten better at storytelling as time has gone on, but it's still not very good. It was a crossover between My Hero Academia and Solo Leveling called Shadow Monarch Hero: Deku. The title doesn't even work because he's called Deku like twice in the whole story. Regardless I must've caught some lightning in a bottle or something cause it got pretty popular pretty fast. It's a few years old by now and I'm doing a rewrite of it just to try and improve some of the things I screwed up in the first version.

@@shadowsovereign4948 Cool, feel free to keep us updated

Man, that's fucked up. People really think fanfiction is just up for grabs to do whatever they want with. I hope those videos eventually got taken down and that you keep creating art you're passionate about.

@@hannahfanning9585 RU-vid actually acknowledges fanfic as copyright worthy works, so they do work with you. But regardless the day I stop writing is the day I die lol. I don't think much else could stop me from writing. It's definitely my life's passion

he's doing the contraponts bit but without a single shred of irony. Huh.. I wonder if he intentionally tried to rip that off without getting the joke

I guess you could almost call it... borderline experimental.

@@3ln2xnope it's been confirmed that he didn't

@3ln2x the rumor has been all over the internet, so it must be true, right?

​@@el_fuckoI....clapped?

He's the ancient koi fish who, upon waking from its long slumber, shakes the Earth, ends a fraudster's career, and further breaks that one section of wall.

He is also nonbinary and gay

​@@crookedgamer7183When you refer to someone who is non-binary, you don't usually refer them with "he" unless it's what they prefer. Also, he's bi not gay

Most accurate description I've ever read

It's like the modern day content cop and I'm here for it

Also about how his line delivery is the most painstakingly boring, monotone and obnoxious on youtube. Second to that is illuminati

@@biggy0917 you can hear when content creators don't actually have passion for what they are talking about

He can’t make a second video on Somerton, the bastard has been non-stop emailing him and Kat about how he’ll kill himself if they ever make another video on him

@@No.1-Yellow-Wood-Sorrel-Fan do you have a source for that information?

@@blueberrimuffin6682i think it’s a joke

Don't forget the expulsion of George Santos from the US House of Representatives

As if I needed more reason to be thrilled about that fucking GHOUL finally biting it

I listen to a podcasts called Behind the Bastards that talks about the very worst people of history and I like it a lot, but going there and being the show it is you just know the people there are the scum of the earth, it's not a slow discovery with a twist like hbomb's videos, but still fun to me. Most have one or two parts. Kissinger has SIX parts. So I went to their reddit sub the day Kissinger died and I was not disappointed lol fuck that guy

It's kind of funny since the whole reason it's so long is because he keeps playing clips in full, instead of just summarizing them

​@@14ElmStreet28He needs to post the clips in full, to make an example out of them. He's criticizing Blair for not showing his full tweet video after all, if he turned around and went "Oh btw Internet Historian copied a whole article just trust me I won't show clips just trust me bro" he'd be a hypocrite

Oh, he finally deleted his channel?

​@@leileyaravencroftNot quite, the channel still technically remains, but it's been wiped of everything except its name. No videos, no community tab notes, not even a profile picture. I think he's also deleted or made private pretty much every bit of the rest of his online presence as well.

Ah, nature is healing

A man of his word!

​@@Ehh.....well, someone's words anyway.

How

@@JaJaBi Some Internet Historian fans adamantly defend his blatant plagiarism, dismissing how wrong it is. It just feels yucky to see him steal other people's work and how others don't care about his lack of integrity.

@@JoJo-dj1hj He did nothing wrong. Plagiarism is a fake problem for IP kulaks

LMAO

@@rockoman100 You can't just steal someone else's work, make more money off of it than they ever did, and then pretend you've committed a victimless crime against against a wealthy IP owner.

Someone posted a meme to the subreddit of James photoshopped over Colleen Ballinger called "poisonous rumor locomotive"

It's especially funny to see a joke The Hard Times did 18 hours ago in the comments section of a plagiarism video

Mobius Fun, it’s my birthday today. Play in the bouncy castle in Farbanti.

03:27:30 is this like the 3rd or 4th time Hbomb has randomly brought up a fictional white women victimization campaign? and weirdly including it as a joke when mentioning one of the few black creators in the space is peak white privilege and ignorance. What happened with Lindsey Ellis was bad hbomb we know you're angry about it but that doesn't give you the go-ahead to create this narrative that white women are under attack by queer and BIPOC liberals online it's disgusting.

​​@@billmurphy6199I'm losing my mind, how fucking deep does this plagiarism rabbit hole goes

Thank you for this lovely comment! As a fellow university student, I wholeheartedly agrees

too true. And my sentences are so grammatically questionable and convoluted that it‘s clear ChatGPT didn‘t write them either lol

same lol

literally just turned in my 10 paged research paper 3 days ago and still feel it wasnt enough. Happy to know what I wrote was at least out of my own efforts update: my professor liked my paper so i passed the sem knowing ive done more for my own benefit than james somerton ever could 🎉🎊🥳

This! Like, I get all anxious about whether the sentence I wrote sounds maybe very slightly a bit like something else - I can't comprehend the audacity of these people!

Thing is in that particular case, he need to pay licensing fee too hence why he avoid crediting / asking for permission in the first place. IH knew full well doing the right thing would cost him money hence, the plagiarism.

This is such a good observation! I was kind of feeling this myself but wasnt sure how to put it into words. They're both creators that would occasionally pop up in my recommendations and I'd watch a bit of their stuff, but was never really interested or impressed enough to actively watch anything else of theirs. You can definitely feel their lack of actual passion in their "craft".

This is so freaking interesting to read because I went through the exact same thing I subscribed to Illuminaughty cause I found out about her through one topic and the click but never managed to finish one of her videos, and I found Somerton because I basically wanted more contrapoints content and got a little bored from it when I realized that wasn't quite what I would get, but I could never put my finger on why their videos never resonated with me, always attributed it to my ADHD...

@@sailorncho I had basically the same arc as you! Subbed to James Somerton for about a year and I noticed I was only watching the videos about halfway before moving on. I assumed it was my ADHD but looking back, it’s odd that I assumed that when far longer videos have held my attention the entire time, and I usually go back to videos that were genuinely compelling. I feel like when creators are actually passionate about what they’re talking about, they’ll relay the information in a way where they replicate the emotions they felt while discovering every facet of information. The creators that plagiarize, on the other hand, are more focused on the way that THEY look as writers.

I made a similar comment about Iiliminaughtii. At first I thought it would be interesting content to listen to while working on stuff, but then it just seemed so impersonal. I'm not saying I felt the lack of engagement, it just seemed pretty flat to me.

Literally same. I'd tried a few Illumi vids just as they popped up on play next (usually after me watching creators like Atrocity Guide), and despite it being similar, interesting content, I just found the delivery so dry and the video feeling weirdly stilted in comparison to similar content. Meanwhile I subbed to James after watching a few vids of his a year or so back, i found the content pretty interesting, but every time I tried to go back to his vids after the first few, I had the same problem again; the videos felt weird, and his delivery was dry and weirdly over dramatic, like he was trying to add something that wasn't there. I especially didn't like some of the side comments he made (like the misogyny and weird jabs at lesbians), funny to learn that was the only content he wrote himself. Figures. Real proof right there that reading content that's not your own, ie audiobooks, is a genuinely hard skill and the creatives who can do it successfully are skilled as all heck.

This comment rules

The "stop, he's already dead!" Meme comes to mind.

It's certainly thorough.

this comment goes so fucking hard

Or a few Guinness World Records.

Dammit, now I need to go watch that one again... 😂

@@recaffinator which one?

​@@technicolourmylesOof one

@@cevatkokbudak6414 oh wait, I watched that one. What was the joke? My brain feels fried

@@technicolourmyles Tommy Tallarico is a pathological liar, this is actually not a joke (I'm talking about the wrong things I guess

Its truly amazing, your mother must be very proud!

two minutes a day, quite a pace

I don't get this hate though. He's saying IH stole the article and reworded, but also that IH got stuff wrong even though it was in the thing IH was stealing from. Doesn't make sense. But I think this is heating up, one of these two may fall

the author might not be the rights holder, it’s probably the media company he’d contributed the material to; can’t see it happening

Visiting the video now, it seems the video does link the article as its source. Was it added recently or was it always there?

@@ry4nmasterKeep watching this video to find out!

it got added after a while.

Being a landlord is very time consuming, she barely had the time to not do plagiarism

God forbid women have hobbies /s

@@Sugarman96not her being a landlord too… the more i learn about this woman the worse it gets 😭

fr@@singulariteas

@@singulariteas i could tell instantly from her voice, they all have the same soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl. i could perceive more empathy in the sound of a dial-up modem. EDIT: I understand having a dynamic and/or monotone voice doesn't correlate with empathy, but I never said she had a "monotone" voice, and never would have used that word, for the exact reasons people are apparently upset about ("soulless, disconnected, anti-social drawl" is an extremely specific kind of monotone, if anything, but in my mind a landlord voice isn't even necessarily monotone) ..I'm on the spectrum somewhere myself, not all of us have "monotone" voices - me thinking she sounds like a landlord really shouldn't be taken as an attack on fellow neurodivergents... I know a few that not only don't have monotone voices, but are fantastic orators.

Oh yeah. So the fallout of what happened was James faked an unaliving attempt *twice* and then rebranded. And before you ask: yes, his rebranded videos are also plagiarized.

@@crazyinsane500holy shit what an asshole :D i was genuinely worried for him but nahhhh

@@crazyinsane500 Let's be fair, there's not really any evidence it was fake besides the fact Somerton has lied so often in the past. So it's possible attempted and didn't succeed or stopped at the last minute. Still, he definitely should he held accountable for his plagiarism. The healthiest outcome here is for James to stop looking for validation on the internet and go to therapy.

Of course. If they're not versed in basic English class they wont know how to do their own research. Honestly glad I grew up citing sources in the library as a kid or I'd never be a good writer imo.

Quoting Wikipedia is fine, you just need to admit that you are doing it. It basically has an open source license with the only thing you need to do is say, hey this is wikipedia.

@@NathanWubswhat they mean is they start from Wikipedia and work backwards. Then citing all of Wikipedias sources without citing wiki itself

@@bmo14lax The first red flag is that they don't cite any sources at all. They're just verbatim reading wiki articles and passing it off as their own research. I seriously doubt they even go as far as realising wikipedia has sources

Hilariously incompetent

unfortunately a rare illuminaughti W

​@@iphoneShothandit's actually pretty based because not everyone that wants to see the source materials wants to pay for a Hulu subscription

oh my god blair is on another level of making $hitty "documentaries". I love this material, love you Sir Harris

The fact that she did that is peak comedy

hope he sees this, bless yahs

I'm genuinely so sorry for your book, you were directly stolen from and used for profit and I can't begin to muster up the words for why that's wrong. Currently going through a rough patch, financially, but I'd very much like to read Tinker Belles and Evil Queens when I can. I'd love to hear your insight, from you. Here's hoping this changes how we engage with media.

I did in fact order your book because of this video, it looked really interesting

Hi as a transwoman I love seeing queer authors get recognition. Thank you! And thank you for posting this here! It's nice to see that we queer people aren't alone! Also I might possibly order your book but I already have a lot to read. Regardless I'm glad that these authors are getting recognition! At the least this is a good reading list!

​@@DroolRockwormHis book did, which did not fall upon this earth fully formed.

AAAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It really is fascinating how a person can be so utterly narcissistic that he continues to post plagiarism after a person thoroughly tore him apart for plagiarism

@@amysteriousstranger1221 a) He's likely a sociopath, so he feels no remorse or shame b) He's got no other skills that support his current lifestyle c) It would be on RU-vid to deny him monetization for this stolen content, but they don't care about this problem.

@@Astra7525 fair point

It's not actually a new channel, it's just his old channel with a new name. You can see on the dates of the videos.

Same. It was disappointing especially since Ballon Boy and the one about the failed Cruise were quite good and now I'll always wonder if anything he ever did was original if I ever watch him again. His community containing a fair amount of antisemitism made it a lot easier for me to unsub personally though.

Even if he didn't address it, I'm pretty sure it's probably did a number on his collaborators (ie: OrdinaryThings, who even referenced this video in his 2023 recap)

Honestly his delivery is what makes it more apparent it IS stolen. It's the kind of delivery you get from someone who is reading something out loud for the first time, without ever having seen the words... yet he claimed to be the one writing said words! No one would read their own work in such a stilted and emotionless manner when they claim to have such passion for the subjects they're discussing.

​@gamma626 also you can tell it's written for an article and not to be read aloud. It doesn't flow right. I always found his videos clunky in a way I couldn't put my finger on, but I think that's it

@@NeonNecropolis92 same, his videos started feeling more performative over time to me and lost interest in keeping up, this video shocked how bad behind the scenes actually are and dropped subscription.

I hadn’t watched the second half of the video yet when I first read your comment and almost asked “what about the Angry Video Game Nerd’s delivery is dramatic?” Haha

@@gamma626 I don't mind people reading out articles loud without adding personal emotions to them. True crime and documentary videos absolutely should do that, just acknowledge you're reading existing work, it's like an audiobook that isn't overacted this way.

delicious

Glad to see his former fans aren't putting up with his bullshit anymore.

Let's gooo another career successfully ruined by our guy of the hbombs

He seems to have lost ~6K subscribers so far, if Social Blade is reliable

That post has now been deleted and a new one is up saying he is sorry and taking a moment before responding.

Mf got a plush by doing nothing

Or a landlord.

Is there even proof of james somerton being gay?

@@negativearms do people need to prove their sexuality?? (a lot of ppl are replying to me saying op was joking and if they were itd be really damn funny but theres a lot of ppl replying to me including op that seem to genuinely think somerton was faking being gay which even if he were how exactly would you prove that?? I SWEAR I GET JOKES SOMETIMES)

I work in marketing and I certainly don't trust myself.

@owo26666 if they do lie about everything else, yes. (and if they are marketing guys, of course)

That was especially egregious. Like, I have never seen a single episode of Merlin, but I was on Tumblr in the 2010s, so I'm vaguely familiar with its broad strokes. I can't imagine anyone who did any kind of looking into the show to make that kind of mistake

Imagine you were watching that livestream at the time as a fan and thinking he was talking about Arthur, the children's cartoon

@@fishtank39 right lol never watched the show either but grew up on tumblr seeing fangirls of it and even I know how ridiculous it is to have called it Arthur

Also, calling it “Arthur” could make people confuse it for the kids PBS show, lol.

That jumped out to me too.

Blair also frequently used an avatar still where she was reading from a book. Hmm

Makes me think there was originally a plan to make an adaptation, crediting the article. The "campfire storytime" vibe would fit with that. Maybe mentalfloss just said "no" but by then they were on crunch time so they just uploaded it as-is

@@cly_IH’s videos take months to make. It wouldn’t really make much sense to only ask permission late in production. I think it’s more likely that he didn’t care about that at all, especially considering the part where he pretends he’s reading seperate things.

​@@henrynelson9301 Is that overall or just the scriptwriting process?

@@cly_ Being on a crunchtime isn't a good excuse to steal.

Ah me too!! I'm glad I'm not the only one hahaha!

That’s a really great insight! I usually rewatch the Spider-Verse movies to help with my imposter syndrome, but they haven’t been that much help lately.

I have a feeling being gay is his whole identity and has nothing interesting about him.

You sure? Check again.

And you have a disco elysium profile picture so you are already a gigachad, love

I'm sure their mothers would be very proud.

I imagine it would be kinda like putting a live microphone directly in front of the speaker it's connected to and cranking the volume, then leaving it to feed back for a long time. It would be ear grating and horrible, but maybe in an interesting way if you can stand to listen.

divide by zero error

Dude, be careful. That's how you start the Sinister Six!

They kiss😳

Yeah, everyone's dunking on her for that bit, but I honesty think it kinda rules, even if it was just another case of her being lazy. Information wants to be free

Even if it is based it's not proper citation

Honestly the leeching section was pretty brief anyway, and not relevant to the news updates about James and Blair. You don't need an ulterior motive to cut that point out

There is a cynical irony to watching a 4 hour video calling out plagiarism and then finding that mills and drama channels had already subsequently cashed in on the video's sensitive message with nothing original to add literal hours after it was released

I know at least one of them, despite being shown in the background for about 2 seconds, complained loudly about being lumped in with them despite leeching off of other people's drama and literally doing exactly what all the other the content drama mills do.

​@@yeeyeeyeeyeand then getting on plagiarism drama on their own

Maybe business school should teach people about metaphors.

​@@timothymcleanand academic research

@@timothymclean Business school just teaches you to fuck people over and get yours, unfortunately.

There is a RU-vid video on “the books you’ll never be able to read”. Old books of the past, were often hodgepodge amalgamations of other works. That being said, however, there are clear reasons and examples of actual references. Knowledge can enable knowledge, or it can lead to further ignorance. Idk the whole thing is a farce. The whole James thing just upsets me.

But not even that, though!

I was honestly got one of her popped up and it was about 'traditional builder exposed' and 'cutedodo' exposed. She looks real. Then she reappears again with drama on her video then gone to obscurity At least now I know why

I'm not sure what she expected, because taking a reputable lawyer to court (even if it's the court of public opinion) sounds like a great way to embarass yourself in the most expensive way possible.

The Mea Culpa is real

A copyright lawyer at that! Like, how stupid do you have to be??

@@brendaleelydon very. not to mention the effect in question was not that. and the editor only want to use the effect he asked (not the highlight or paper thing) for his own personal video. And lets pretend that he wanted to blatantly copy video effect. Was accusing his boss for plagiarizing on public forum the best way to do it? Doubly stupid when that person is a lawyer and triply stupid when you realize said lawyer specialize with copyright law.

Normally, I’d admire the tenacity. _Normally._

💀😭

his mother ought to be very proud

Many more have done far less...

(also that's the one part that we know for sure Joey did)

I mean, I really don't want to defend Tommy Tallarico, but at least he actually owned oof sound. He also owned Guinness records. (although he fabricated titles for all awards) James never REALLY owned anything in videos that made him famous. It was all stolen.

I have my criticisms of SU, but I will always be grateful for Rebecca fighting so hard for a lesbian wedding. Same with TLOK and the hand holding scene with Korra and Asami.

exactly!

Yeah, dude was just playing oppression Olympics, it's hard to be part of the LGBTQIA + community, also, if he is going to play, trans people are always going to win, sadly.

somerton doesn’t understand this because he’s never believed in anything enough to fight for its realization.

And SU got its remaining episodes cut short because the crew stuck to their guns on the wedding, which is a big reason the shows ending had such rushed pacing. Insane to act like CN was just bending over to give them whatever they wanted.

It's also solet backwards!

Oh my god,I never noticed it😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮.😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

I bet he knew it already when he decided on making a company with that name

Ah, I hadn't clocked it!

AND it means "end" in Greek xD

​@@capnmnemooh, a new development

​@@capnmnemoWith photoshopped images of his videos to make them look better might I add

Idk shit about filmmaking and the lighting is still pissing me off lmao

I have been thinking this since the video came out in December. It's either Argento or sterile dystopia, with no in-between.

oh, i read the _crap_ out of this. i think he doesn't understand what makes certain types of lighting work. it's like that ebert quote about the guy who overused the dutch angle, "he's learned from better films that sometimes directors tilt their cameras, but he has not learned why."

I also think it's cool that Hbomb pretty much did to Somerton, what Deer did to Wakefield.

Now you’ve got me imagining an AVGN-lexicon version of James Somerton’s rants about being used as an accessory by straight women

"Rules for thee and not for me" as they say

Projection seems to be quite common among people who have a habit of knowingly doing shitty things

@@larissabrglum3856 Because they think everyone else is like them

Often people are the most critical of others what they think of themselves. Projecting.

Blair being so cutthroat about Cruel World Happy Mind's bashful approach addressing potential plagiarism brought to her by a viewer was clearly not an authentic response but making an example of her because she knew she would not be the last.

I'm sure his mother is very proud.

Clearly hbomberguy stole this whole thing from Tommy 😤 he needs someone to tell him that plagiarism is not cool

He owns the world record for the most watched RU-vid video, his mother is very proud.

@@davidmcgirruntil he walks around the water fountain in his Egypt room.

I was literally relistening to the tommy tallarico video by chance just before i got the notification for this

It gets worse: Man In Cave wasn't his first time after all. Someone found some phrasing in Cost of Concordia that looks suspiciously like a Vanity Fair article on the tragedy (specifically, on the Korean couple who narrowly survived. Turns out, the phrase "safe but shivering" only returns around 1,500 results in a Google search. Adding "Costa Concordia" to the search leaves Historian's video and the VF article.)

He's also a Nazi sympathizer who dog whistles to his Neo-Nazi audience just like Stonetoss AKA Hans Kristian Graebener from Spring, TX

​@@thelonious1310 what, when?

@@strgunlinr2464 Always. Hbomberguy mentioned it a little bit with his deleted stuff and the general nature of his fanbase. He was extremely 4chan/adjacent to start with and has tried to cover it up now that he's more mainstream but the fanbase still knows.

Exactly. Even if you (JS) don’t have whatever writing handbook you had to buy for school still in a box somewhere, you know it exists. Heck, you know citations are a thing because they are the things you would have to delete when copying Wikipedia articles into your script.

Heck, it isn't uncommon for it to be a thing in high school either. And the very fact that one knows the phrase 'citing a reference' means knowing in broad strokes about the concept and thus what to google, if nothing else.

​​​@@PhotonBeastI learned about and was told that bad stuff would happen if you plagiarized in middle school, hell in the 6th goddamn grade. Granted, it was a very light sort of "If you plagiarize you can get in legal trouble and lose money" in a very simplified way for 12 year olds, but *still*, c'mon man it aint hard to understand

Yup. This was all in my very first required class.

It was drilled into me in high school English. Granted, I took AP English, but still...

I plagiarized a poem about fish in elementary school and got an A. Still learned not to do it by middle school

In Denmark before submitting any high school exam you literally have to sign a legal document stating that this is all your original work and that you agree to be expelled if it isn't.

For me it was in 2nd grade on a report about some kind of flower. Now I am ass about my citations

I met people who were upperclassmen in college who didn't understand that if they did not include in-text citations (which are VERY EASY TO INCLUDE, *especially* in APA style), they were effectively plagiarizing. The amount of peer-reviewing I did where that was an issue was astounding.

Same here. I was in 2nd grade and for my essay I just copied a portion of a Crash Bandicoot 1 walkthrough. lmao

HBomb showed a lot of restraint by not playing a bit of Arthur’s intro after that blunder. TBF, though, that was a gaffe on James’ part. I can forgive that while watching him get torn down for actual shit he’s done.

@@animeotaku307 I hope you understand that the point of it being put into the video was not to shame James for a brain flub, but to illustrate just how little attachment he actually had to a subject he supposedly was into enough to make a video about.

​@@animeotaku307That's not a gaffe, he forgot the name because he didn't watch the freaking show lol

And I say HEY!

​​@@justacouplapaninis4986What a wonderful kind of day...

Gamer

Honestly the most toxic backstabbing snakes I saw in school were the gay best friends of the popular straight girls….

​@@just_a_turtle_chadedgy loser

@just_a_turtle_chad What's the matter, are your parents not monitoring your screen time enough?

​@@just_a_turtle_chadtypical Vaushite response (I see you under every vaush video lol)