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@obviously_phoebe Год назад

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@uniraffesaur Год назад

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@imperialhistati2348 Год назад

What up! Guy here dating a girl who’s a year older than me. Chug me some advice…

@obviously_phoebe Год назад

@@imperialhistati2348 just treat her like any other girl, it’s a year so not that much

@xxxxx4422 Год назад

As someone who dated a 24 year old at 15: He doesn't think you're mature. He knows you're not and that you're happy to hear this. Don't fall for it girls, grown man go for young girls for a reason.

@andreina3251 Год назад

Period.

@JaZmine147 Год назад

I second this. Same happened to me. 16F / 25M. When I was 25 myself I looked back and couldn't even fathom dating a 16 year old. Insane.

@EvolvementEras Год назад

seriously I was 15 and he was 24 back in 1990 and he used to hit me...fast forward later to me being in my 30's dating a much younger guy. I know that looking back I wouldn't date anyone more than 10 years younger than me but now I am in my 40's so it would be a person in their 30's so it would be much more emotionally equal

@NaishiYT Год назад

Or you should stfu. It doesn’t matter if they say you’re mature or not. No one cares about that dude 🤦🏽‍♀️

@eev14 Год назад

Yep, I got groomed by a 21 year old guy when I was 14, then at 17 I dated a 23 year old and later at 20 I dated a 27 year old, my closest age relationship was actually with a woman when I was 23 and she was the same age. Now at 29 I'm not dating at all but the longest relationship I had was with a guy that was nearly 4 years younger than me, that lasted 3 years until I realized we weren't going to be at the same stage in life at the same time. Since breaking that off I've been taking it easy and not dating, what I do know now is that I don't want to date someone significantly older or younger than me, I want a good equal relationship and am not going to settle for anything less.

@layla_99s52 Год назад

just remember girls- he doesn't love you, he loves your age :)

@obviously_phoebe Год назад

eek yeah

@priscillasmirrorball Год назад

yup!!😊

@afkass4965 Год назад

What does that even mean...like he will like everyone who is your age?🤔

@lietuvosangelyteee Год назад

wish i knew that before

@ms.shineray Год назад

Also he doesn’t think you are mature, he knows you can be easily manipulated

@leo-if3jn Год назад

i'm a restaurant worker, and i've been working in a restaurant since i was 15. funnily enough, men stared at me more when i was 15 and wearing a turtleneck than now as a 19 year old wearing a button down. they don't want women, they want girls.

@leo-if3jn Год назад

also, real quote from my male coworker! "if they're underage, then they shouldn't be allowed to look that good". men are so great and i trust them!

@andifishgallery9400 Год назад

That is pretty disturbing honestly, we really need to stop going after girls THAT young, and I’m glad we’re starting to realize it more nowadays

@cleverasaurus Год назад

THIS. I got cat called more at 13 than at any other time in my life.

@Lisa-qt4hh Год назад

@Halloween All Year Round so disgusting :( I'm sorry to hear about your situation.. Man that sounds tough, and than a narcissistic mother on top of that. You sound like you came out of it alright and like you see through all of it.. Hope that's the case ❤️❤️ I always underline to people that you should not trust someone just because they are in a 'caring' profession, like being a teacher or police officer.. It's sometimes the creeps who like to boss people around who are attracted to those professions.

@juicydinosaur17 Год назад

@@cleverasaurus same. Now 23 and I don’t get hit on a fraction as much than when I was 14-19. Granite I stay away from men at all cost 😅

@RoseSparkz Год назад

The phrase "mature for your age" is one that is classically employed by adults to parentify children. I have been told I was mature for my age my entire life, and while I have always been considered intelligent, it was really just an excuse for adults to unload unrealistic expectations on me because I had internalised the idea that I was different and more capable than my peers. I was not. If an older person tells you that you are mature for your age, a lot of the time it's really them saying "i think you can be what I'd like you to be." Or they are condescending others your age which also says a lot about how inapropriate the dynamic is.

@markigirl2757 Год назад

I had that too but now I’m hearing “act more ur age” lolol I don’t care anymore bc I never was mature I was just quiet and obedient and now that I’m an adult and doing my own thing they finally realized they just projected their expectations bc I didn’t defy them at the time 😂

@SieMiezekatze Год назад

is creepy thinking how much i was hit on by guys when i was 12/14 compared to now at my 20's, so many guys go for literal children

@rachelsmith6359 Год назад

This notion also exists with telling women that they're too young to know better when it comes to dating older people...

@riahray Год назад

Yep

@leap-of-faith Год назад

i really like how you phrased this because it implies that the phrase “you’re mature for you age” can be used in situations outside of romantic partners. and that’s really important to recognize, that phrase can be so damaging to the way young people grow up because, as you said, it’s really just red flag for having unrealistic expectations. it’s damaging to young people because we feel we have to keep up that image, that we are are capable and emotionally strong. but if we trip at all, that’s a failure on us.

@pinkpanther1836 Год назад

I find it hilarious when people defend huge age gap and be like “my parents are 12 years apart so what’s the big deal?” yeah because your parents met at 30-42 not 17-29 💀💀

@user-yc8wt5rn6z Год назад

also, back then it was more acceptable to have huge age gaps as pedophilia was not as addressed and patriarchal norms were more prominent than now.

@flamesgirlable9903 Год назад

My parents met when they were 21 and 32 and I've never seen them hug or kiss and they are miserable and have fucked me up because of this among other worse things lol

@wowlookatthathugestringof8s Год назад

Gen Z-ers are weird, marking 29 years old as "still basically a child".

@pinkpanther1836 Год назад

@@wowlookatthathugestringof8s girl.. who said that 29 year olds are still a child? 💀💀 and “gen z” never said that lmao no one is marking a 29 year old “basically still a child” we are saying that 18-19 is still a child even 20 you are still so young you’re reaching babe.. you found that out the sky or something lmao

@pinkpanther1836 Год назад

@@wowlookatthathugestringof8s people love blaming gen z for anything istg 💀

@greenbean381 Год назад

He doesn't think you're mature, he thinks you're an easy target. He wants to "make" you into his perfect little gf/wife. And/or he will leave you when you're "too old." Pay attention to how he speaks about women his age, or even just closer to his age. Pay attention to how he speaks about women in general.

@Kaybye555 Год назад

Exactly, let's stop pretending men are not growing up with watching the stuff only that tells them younger women are "better". Sexually speaking, most poeple have been stunned by "pron". We have been made to think these behaviors are fine and cool and sexy, when we are young. Until we grow up and realize it's not. Some people just keep thinking that's great when it's really not

@LadyAstarionAncunin Год назад

He wants control, period. So, if you don't want to listen to your parents, why listen to some old dude either?

@Kaybye555 Год назад

@@LadyAstarionAncunin great point! Hating the adults who try to protect you for an ugly ass man who wants to control and hurt you

@aleyahgarvey8207 Год назад

I remembered a video of Beyonce and Jay-Z whereas Beyonce was basically telling him, how much he teach her how to be a woman. And they also have a huge age gap, he knew her since she was 18 and started dating her as she reach 20. I love Beyonce I really, really do but chile...........

@1800PAlN Год назад

This also goes if he doesn't talk about women at all! If he doesn't talk about any other woman, or anything past surface-level observations or barely mentioning them, there's probably a reason for that too.

@W4TSKY Год назад

Imagine being 31 and you can't even go to the bar or the club with your girl... you know, because she's still underage 🤢

@tencelTechnologist Год назад

okay but people are going to let billie into the club bc she’s a celebrity

@W4TSKY Год назад

@@tencelTechnologist you'd be surprised. most places with liquor licenses don't want to lost them. I used to work at a very nice hotel and rich people would stay there and send their underage kids there all the time (this was in Austin so especially for ACL and SXSW). if guests were underage, we'd have to make sure to clean out the mini bar of all alcohol and there would be little notes around the bars to not serve/send up alcohol to people staying in certain rooms. just one call to the TABC (or whatever your regional equivalent) can ruin your business. governments take underage drinking VERY seriously...

@3u-n3ma_r1-c0 Год назад

LMAOOOOO

@omgthisismeomgthisisme Год назад

In Europe we go to bars at 16.

@myluciferislonely4313 Год назад

she’s 21 now

@beefynoggin Год назад

I went on a date with a man who was 30 when I was 20 and one of the first things he asked was my age. His response was, ‘you look like you could be 17, I like that’ and I RAN

@serenityssolace Год назад

That was meant as a compliment. Cause women love to hear they are younger than they are. You totally misinterpreted his words😑

@mikeoochie7699 Год назад

@@serenityssolace read again ☠

@serenityssolace Год назад

@@mikeoochie7699 Like I said, that was probably a compliment. You read the comment again, but this time with my interpretation

@mikeoochie7699 Год назад

@@serenityssolace thats a creepy compliment then

@serenityssolace Год назад

@@mikeoochie7699 Could be. I'd say 50/50

@lanayahh6083 Год назад

It sucks cause when you’re young you feel so special for being chosen or “seen” especially when you never were by other adults. And when you’re in the moment no one can convince you otherwise. It hurts so bad when you start to get closer to the age they were cause you would never sexualize someone so young.

@pweetyliciouse Год назад

This hits hard. I just went through something like this.

@UtauHotaru Год назад

*this*!!! I'm not even at what his age was when he first met me and I'm like 😱 HOW. TEENAGERS LOOK LIKE BABIES TO ME now that I'm mid 20's.. I would never date that young, just feels so icky.

@rose-yeah Год назад

Daddy issues

@Sunmoonandstars123 Год назад

Never being seen by adults (aka family) whew that’s it!!!

@yourfavoriteoompaloompa139 Год назад

Yes!!!!

@zoesmith3378 Год назад

Let me tell you I became single for the first time in years as a 21 y/o and the sheer amount of guys ages 30-40 that wanted a sexual relationship with me was staggering. And anytime I would bring up the age gap all of them said it wasn't a big deal. It's weird and gross

@MrEpz4321 Год назад

What about women wanting a height gap relationship, where the guy is much taller?

@Taewiththelace Год назад

@@MrEpz4321 ain’t no way you comparing that…

@wholethedogsout880 Год назад

@@MrEpz4321 not even the same thing

@rosesgarden8622 Год назад

@@MrEpz4321 "so women can like tall men but I can't sleep with teenagers?"

@blue7284 Год назад

@@MrEpz4321 Yes, women liking tall men, and old men wanting to sleep with girls in their early twenties are the same thing... 😐

@rottenghost Год назад

Just because you’re mature *for your age* doesn’t necessarily mean you’re mature for their age

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

also just because someone is an "fully grown adult" it doesn't make the relationship any better

@AB-sm1qf Год назад

Why is anyone looking for maturity in a teen or younger person? Isn’t that an oxymoron?

@mariebunn45 Год назад

@@AB-sm1qf its a ploy older people use to manipulate younger people into being in romantic or sexual relationships with them by telling them it technically isnt weird because their brain is supposedly on par with that of a 30 yr old

@nstar1372 Год назад

@@AB-sm1qfthat’s the thing. They AREN’T. They’re looking to take advantage.

@Dennis-nc3vw 7 месяцев назад

Doesn't matter. Forest Gump is a movie about a woman who beds a man whose brain is so child like his favorite book is Curious George. Everyone thinks its a timeless classic and beautiful romance. The Shape of Water is about a woman who falls for a fishman thing that can't talk, spent its whole life in a cage, and might be no more intelligent than a dog. Again, classic movie, won a ton of awards. Yet women have the nerve to get self-righteous towards men for dating immature partners.

@indigoearthhealing4927 Год назад

I was 17 turning 18 and she was 24. I didn’t realize how traumatized by that relationship I was until after it was over.

@aurora_skye Год назад

I'm sorry to hear that.

@hmmhuh1222 Год назад

may i ask what was traumatizing about it? i dont rlly understand putting realtionships that happen between young adults in the same box as those with 10+ yr age gaps (within reason ofc).

@ays2778 Год назад

@@hmmhuh1222 I think people usually group those types of relationships together because the brain and maturity change so much from your teens to your early 20s, so a few or more years of age difference can be significant in terms of development. Of course, as people get older (after 25), they are not developing as much, so there is not as significant of a difference in maturity. I am in my early 20s and even people who are only a few years younger than me seem super young. I feel like the large age gap is really a major problem for people who are younger than 25ish because a lot of these people (who are coming into their own, learning to be independent, establishing their morals) can be more easily manipulated by those who are already significantly more or fully mentally developed.

@kayladavis1365 Год назад

@@samuelfoster8615 trauma is different for everyone what might me traumatizing for them might not be for you. Anyway they didn’t even say anything about the relationship other than it was traumatic and there was an age gap, so what makes you think they weren’t an abuser or a manipulator?

@thedarkjotun Год назад

Crazy... my first long term boyfriend and I had the exact same age gap, and I was also your age when I met him, 17 going on 18. I've had more than one toxic relationship in my life since then (nearly 30 now) but you're right, it wasn't until long after it was over that I realised just how damaging it was to me, and it did far worse to me than any other unhealthy relationship I've had since.

@styledbysands Год назад

As someone who dated a 24 yr old at 15 up til 23 & 31 DONT DO IT - he’s a manipulative man even if you think it’s love I promise u

@akiaki980 Год назад

You a victim 💀💀💀

@styledbysands Год назад

@@akiaki980 correct Tysm!

@cookiex010 Год назад

that is so awful. im so sorry

@Enkvinnasominteheterove Год назад

@@reina8284 that’s what she’s saying

@OverthrowMedia Год назад

Well that wasnt cuz of the age gab thats cuz he was a pedifile. He was dating s literal child and literally groomed you. Sorry that happened to you.

@shewho333 Год назад

Oh yes, I had an “old soul” pretty often and was “mature for my age”. Said my high school health teacher. He was in his 30’s and knew things at home were bad for me. So he made my life worse. For a while I thought he just liked me for me. 🙄

@BreannaLuna Год назад

I'm so sorry you went through that... I hate seeing people taking advantage of the positions and situations, so I hope you're doing better.

@lo-.. Год назад

Aw I’m so sorry 😞 ❤ hopefully you’re better now

@crazyowlgirlcncowner Год назад

OMG ew he sounds creepy. That's predatory on so many levels

@elifpamuk55 Год назад

I'm so sorry girl. I hope there were consequences for him and his action, what a monster you gotta be for taking advantage of your student.

@shewho333 Год назад

He was never prosecuted but he was passed around to 13 other schools in my state after me. My name and his name are on a statewide advocacy list to be a witness if any others come forward.

@AnaPsychology Год назад

Hi Madisyn, it was so surprising to see my video in yours! Thank you so much for pointing out my mistake in interpreting that study from Nigeria. I think I misunderstood because the study at one point said "men who commit IPV are much older than their wives" and because s*xual violence was highest for those with 5-14 year age gaps. There was also a discussion about women having lowest rates of IPV at "0-4 years" but the authors were talking about years spent married, not years difference in age between partners. I think I'm going to take down my original video and possibly issue a corrected version. I apologize to everyone who was misled by the information in my video!

@MadisynBrown Год назад

ah okay thanks for clarifying! i appreciate the work you do and that video was very helpful for me making this video still. i’m glad you got to watch this one!

@lightyears-xo8qb Год назад

Its refreshing to see another RU-vidr who isn't defensive when someone points out correction in their video.

@Yhhhts-hx9tv 5 месяцев назад

@@MadisynBrown Hey black girl

@gustavus0013 11 дней назад

Guys!!! Is it bad if an 18 yo dates a 16 yo? If they’re like a grade apart.

@ritaevergreen7234 Год назад

Being babyfaced also makes it harder to generally feel flattered by male attention since at the back of my mind i’m questioning if they assume I am indeed as younger as they perceive or think that I’m naive. Like it just feels I have to be on guard all the time.

@extrafirmtofu__ Год назад

I haven’t thought about it that way before, I’m so sorry that you go through that. It sounds like an extra barrier for making decisions on relationships. :( I hope that it doesn’t affect you forever.

@morighani Год назад

and it feels awful when they’re all interested in you and as soon as you assert any sort of maturity and boundary, or they find out how old you actually are, all the interest is out the window. it’s not attraction it’s predation!!

@ritaevergreen7234 Год назад

The thing is that I have a Latina background with indigenous features so I have been told since I was a teen that I have sex appeal. So it’s been a lot of conflicting emotions because I understand now that womanhood is something every female is going to go through the thing is society at times likes to force females who carry the duality of being babyfaced and beautiful along with the idea of sex appeal as the epitome of the devil since it Carrie’s the idea of perverted thoughts which must be stopped given the way people pervert children at times. This can be easily gaslighted out of anxiety and also jealousy. It’s a very touchy subject though.

@insideatheart Год назад

oh my god yes. i'm short (1.54) and never use makeup (plus just genes) and the amount of times people have mistakenly believed i'm 15 when in reality i'm 20 it's just, wow... so when a man compliments me i don't know what to feel. because i know my body doesn't necessarily look like of an adult (i hate to explain it like that but my english isn't that good yet) i'm aware i look younger than i am and that sometimes i can seem a bit naive so it makes me wonder what they see in me lmao it scares me sometimes

@chibaby800 Год назад

My struggle girll. I side eye every guy and it’s hard to just live in the moment without thinking they have Ill intentions

@chrixell Год назад

They're usually immature for their age and no one their age wants them and we're naive thinking we scored 😭

@anyone1111 Год назад

Golly that’s so sad but true the way you put it😭

@erinkinsella91 Год назад

I've literally always thought this since I was in secondary school and girls my age started dating these older guys thinking they were cool....all I could think is you're getting the creepy leftovers from his age that no one wants, its sad

@fawnresponse Год назад

Yup

@chrixell Год назад

@hey hey Hit too close to home?

@chrixell Год назад

@hey hey 😴

@sognare_ds Год назад

Ok, here's what bothers me about this topic, everyone talks about billie, that she's the one who should know it's wrong and blah blah blah blah. Once again, the patriarchy and internalized misogyny come out in our speeches unintentionally, it is HE who should know that it is not right. He's the older person, he's the one who should sit back and think "oh, I'm 11 years older than her." (!!!)

@Avi2Nyan Год назад

And her parents and brother should step in

@fart63 Год назад

@@Avi2Nyan this is what’s crazy to me. Nobody in her family is helping her? God help any creepy old dude or chick that even tried to hit on me..

@xoch1717 Год назад

@@fart63 it looks like jesse is good friends with billie's brother. they're so weird.

@fart63 Год назад

@@xoch1717 super disappointing behavior from her brother then, and absolutely disgusting behavior from jesse

@ifraahomar5111 Год назад

exactly a lot of victim blaming in the comments

@Mondlunar Год назад

It really is a man thing. As a gay guy, when I was 19-21 the amount of guys in their 40s to 50s trying to message and get with you is off the charts. I didn't use any apps at 18 so I don't even want to know what happens at that age.

@tiamystic Год назад

I know a gay guy who proudly says he’s got Tinder and a girl supposedly having a relationship with an adult woman online. We’re not even out of highschool yet, but this was some months ago in the 11th grade.

@NeloBladeOfRanni Год назад

Will second this as a gay guy myself Admittedly I often ended up dating older guys as I do have a preference for older men up until like 3 years ago because most gay guys my own age just wanted to sleep around and didn't have the necessary Braun cells to think with something besides their dick

@i.dont.read.replies Год назад

We know it's a male thing, we know. Good luck to you :(

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

Pedos are more often gay. Watch any pedo catchers and you'll see the trends

@natalieromanoff Год назад

Age gap relationships are more common in lesbain relationships than heteros. Lol get a grip

@karishajohnson6537 Год назад

Billie gives me I’ve been told “I’m mature for my age” and her being in the industry she’s most likely to be approached by guys older than her. She’s aware of the power dynamic but she thinks she’s too mature to date people her age as if there aren’t people her age in the industry but she’ll live and she’ll definitely learn It’s wild because younger folks think 30 is old - but not too old to date Between her and the Olsen twins dating older men it’s just weird to see

@35yoglenmckenna31 Год назад

Careful though Not weird that young people look up and are attracted to older people ( happens a lot ) but these older men and women need to stop that predatory behaviour

@scarletsletter4466 Год назад

The irony is that if Billie dated a guy around her agr who'd been working & going to school since his teen years, he'd probably be more mature than her & even her Hollywood bf. Being famous stunts your maturity 🤷🏼‍♀️

@karishajohnson6537 Год назад

@@35yoglenmckenna31 Definitely, attraction and crushes on older people are normal for teens and even younger children but anything more than that is liable on the adult Because things could not happen without the adult’s permission and pursuit This is the same with girls not in the industry. The ones who are groomed and told they’re mature for their age but the whole time they’re just easier to access and manipulate

@karishajohnson6537 Год назад

@@scarletsletter4466 yes being famous and having relationships with older people definitely affects your personal growth as a teen and young adult It changes the way you see normal or healthy development, mistaking it for immaturity when you’ve been deprived of having that experience to come into your own on your own terms

@whoasked6696 Год назад

But Billie said she approached Jesse tho

@beth7935 Год назад

THANKYOU for calling out the infantilisation of young women! (& teenagers in general). It literally makes the problem worse: if we keep telling teenagers they're "literal children", they're much MORE likely to be flattered by the "you're so mature for your age" line. I dunno how so many adults seem to have totally forgotten being a teenager, but I'm 46 & I remember VIVIDLY how much I HATED being treated like a child. Teenagers aren't adults yet, but they're not children either.

@miglek9613 Год назад

Doesn't change the fact the previous and current Billie's partners would be in prison right now if society actually cared about catching predators. We really shouldn't be blaming the teenagers though (which a lot of the discourse around the relationships sounds like), we should be arresting (or at least shaming to the point where they could never show their face or date again) the older people instead as that's the party that is actively abusing someone

@aviatress5643 Год назад

I personally disagree as a teenager myself. Teenagers are children, not in the same vain as under 10’s of course, they’re in their late stage of childhood and I don’t believe separating them from that has good consequences. In fact, I’d would say because of this rhetoric, I’ve seen more adolescents think they’re entitled to the same rights as adults and pursue interests well outside of their age range as well as adults being predatory towards us in nature because in several instances, it’s considered a ‘grey area’ (age of consent and so on). It’s just not safe. It’s not infantilism when we are, in fact, children. We’re still going through rapid physical and mental development, we still require legal guardians to care for us because we can’t go into full time labour, some of us get childcare benefits. Sure, I hate being treated like I’m still in infancy and societies should work towards respecting our autonomy but I don’t think that should equate to taking away our right to be (perceived as) children.

@whatwouldsallydo Год назад

@@miglek9613 but Billie is not even a teenager anymore 😭

@miglek9613 Год назад

@@whatwouldsallydo as someone literally a week younger than Billie, the mentality of an average 20 year old is not much different than that of a teenager, the only difference is that we're thrown into a bunch of adult environments now with no regard to our safety. Also, did you miss the part of the video where they met when she was literally underage?

@whatwouldsallydo Год назад

@@miglek9613 everyone completely disregards how when billie and jesse met, jesse was in a long relationship with devon.

@DollfaceLizkah Год назад

It really hurts to see Billie making this normalized when so many of us suffered from grown men when we were young. It's inappropriate for any grown man to go after someone that young. She's 20, barely legal. Her brain isn't fully formed yet. He's taking full advantage of her. The fact he knew her when she was a minor says everything imo. I don't think people are being hard enough on pr*datory men

@Lovemalotm Год назад

Facts

@mintkit1064 Год назад

I agree with you so much. It's so awful, those around her absolutely failed her.

@RachelJayne92 Год назад

She needs to speak to Taylor!

@sandraestrada3295 Год назад

nah fr im 20 and so slow

@omu6740 Год назад

i just turned 23 and agree. a friend of mine (2 years younger) just started dating a man 6 years older than her and i still don't know how to feel about it. i just want young women to be safe.

@madziat4844 Год назад

The most absurd thing is that when Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor started dating the whole internet called them weird and disgusting when they were literally two fully-developed consenting adults whereas "straight older men-underage girls" relationships like Demi Lovato and Wilmer Valderrama or Celine Dion and her husband were considered couple goals :///

@dirt1688 Год назад

YESSS YUP YUP YUP Paulson and Taylor's relationship is beautiful and they got together well into adulthood. But this? Ugh.

@jodilynokeefe2800 Год назад

LEGIT RIGHTTT

@JustMeAri Год назад

I (f28) date a guy (m24). Some people say we're a cute couple, some people say it's weird cause I'm a woman dating a younger guy, most part of the year we have a 3y gap and for 4months we have this 4y gap, we're living the same things in our lives as we're both in our 20s and I've met him when he was 19, but only started dating him when he was 20. Still, it's weird to a lot of people which makes no sense. When they say those things to me I feel like a 40yo woman dating a 18yo boy. But those same people say nothing when they see a girl dating a man 8 years older than her.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

just because they are "fully developed consenting adults" it doesn't mean anything them being in a 32 year age gap relationship as a lesbian couple only adds fuel to the fire when it comes to homophobes preaching about gay people being sexual predators bringing up the relationship between Demi Lovato and Wilmer Valderrama or Celine Dion and her husband as a way to rationalize these couples shows that you have double standards when it comes to which age gap relationships are inappropriate! two wrongs don't make a right! grow up! the whole internet calling Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor "weird" for dating is common sense!

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

same-sex couples like Sarah Paulson and Holland Taylor blindly defending their 32 year age gap relationship is exactly what gives homophobes an excuse to label anyone in the LGBTQ+ community as "pedophiles" stop trying too hard to seem like you're "open minded"

@mallory1466 Год назад

Jesse wrote a song for The Neighbourhood called “Single,” which is about his ex Devon. It’s literally about their age gap & Jesse directly addresses Devon’s dad in the song, “Can you let your baby be my girl?” … so weird they’ve both wrote songs about this before… & he’s a repeat offender as they say lol

@selenadamman8417 Год назад

Isnt that age cap just 3 years tho

@mallory1466 Год назад

@@selenadamman8417 they met in high school so when he was nearly graduated she was still a freshman (not objectively wrong but when u have a 14/15 & 17/18 year old dating… it’s a little weird). her dad didn’t approve of the relationship, which is why they split & inspired the song. they met up again later in life & started dating.

@selenadamman8417 Год назад

@mallory oh god freshmen and seniors dating is a red flag, i guess hes had a thing for younger women all along

@j.c1574 Год назад

Omg are you stupid? Do you realize that Devon and Jesse are 3 years apart???? That’s literally not weird.

@mallory1466 Год назад

@@j.c1574 am i stupid??? umm maybe read the replies before u come at me like that lol …

@sandrasara1321 Год назад

being mature for your age exists and it's called ✨childhood trauma✨ speaking from experience lmao

@Grrranola Год назад

Also aligns nicely with ✨eldest daughter syndrome ✨

@sandrasara1321 Год назад

@@Grrranola shit, this is too accurate

@emc2era988 Год назад

True

@crackerattacker3693 Год назад

this comment sure didnt make you seem mature

@ZZ-qy5mv Год назад

@@crackerattacker3693 Please explain how she was being immature? What? Using humor to cope? You're the one insulting a stranger who's expressing that they had painful experiences.

@bloopdaddy Год назад

its literally odd because billie literally made a song called Your Power about being abused in a previous age gap relationship. lmao

@DollfaceLizkah Год назад

And the fact she's openly mocking young girls being abused in age gap relationships

@wholethedogsout880 Год назад

@@DollfaceLizkah how ? ?? shes just making fun of your annoying asses trying to control her life and making her relationship out to be some "pedophilic" thing. hence, the baby and old man costumes. billie eilish is significantly more famous than fucking jessie whatever the fuck. the power imbalance is switched around. billie has the power and status jesus christ

@rose-yeah Год назад

Billie just like all women, she is hypocrite. Let’s get real most of women like Older men.

@bloopdaddy Год назад

@@rose-yeah no, most women don't. to experiment sometimes, maybe. and maybe billie's been psychologically traumatized and now mainly goes for older guys? chill tf out. u clearly know nothing about women, so quit projecting.

@cashmereglow7549 Год назад

She likely has Stockholm Syndrome. Girls who have been preyed on might end up repeating the same patterns with the people who abused them. Because its familiar to them.

@SlapSister Год назад

Its so sick when your adult EX dates a teenager. It makes you feel violated yourself because now you see them as a predator or simply a loser. Like I was with this dude, who's now not only sexualizing a teenager, but their maturity level or emotional intelligence is SO low they are even capable of a mutual relationship with a teenager...??? Makes me shutter that I ever let someone like that touch me, or break my heart. Shit is embarrassing for real.

@edenskies Год назад

I know how you feel 🥀

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

"Who's now" He was the same person when you dated them

@nstar1372 Год назад

@@kylespevak6781eah he was but the dynamic is different. He’s seeking out his level but he’s also taking advantage. Pretty normal to feel disgusted by it.

@hhaannnnaahh222 Год назад

i read yesterday that people tend to date people at a similar emotional maturity level to them. i think it's less that the young woman is extremely mature and more that the older guy is immature for his age..no amount of "emotional maturity" can replace significant life experience. also if you're late 20's like me, you will probably now see people in their late teens for what they are - children.

@hhaannnnaahh222 Год назад

*from someone who started dating a 25 year old at 17*

@alicecat989 Год назад

I agree with this. It's the older person who is immature like a teenager.

@lavellans Год назад

still, that doesn't change the predatory nature of a grown 25 y.o dating a teenager. It's unfortunate that many adults, especially men, refuse to mature and instead are potentially traumatizing literal kids.

@hhaannnnaahh222 Год назад

@@lavellans oh for sure, I don't see it as an excuse at all. more just highlighting that them stroking a young woman's ego doesn't change the fact of it being inappropriate and that you can only be so mature at 17.

@serenityssolace Год назад

Exactly. I will be turning 30 soon and I have 0 life experience. So in a sense by dating an 18 year old girl we will be at similar stages in maturity

@ava.catherine Год назад

As someone whose parents have an age gap relationship (9 years) this was super interesting and insightful. Thankfully I don’t think my parents have experienced many of the drawbacks to an age gap relationship (and they met a bit older: mom was 30 dad was 39) I definitely agree with your points about these relationships when the younger party is in their late teens and early 20s

@RecaJ333 Год назад

ohh yes! I think after 30, age gaps aren't really bad because everyones an adult at that point. who I was at 20, is NOT who I'll be next year when I turn 29. So so so so SO MUCH changes. Anyone who says different is in-denial or hasn't grown.

@ar-yj8lb Год назад

@@RecaJ333 i feel like past 25 age gaps don't really matter as much

@jazzyscott Год назад

@@ar-yj8lb 25 is still relatively young, 30 is when your actually grown and have more insight

@ar-yj8lb Год назад

@@jazzyscott i mean at 25 you've finished college, you've been working for a couple years, you've finished developing, You're basically a full adult, I agree that 30 is when you have more insight though

@gemain609 Год назад

@@ar-yj8lb This genuinely sounds right

@CarolaTesla Год назад

I have heard guys treating women their same age of "old ladies" and other derogatory terms. That says enough about those men.

@missandry2669 Год назад

They die in nursing home alone you see it all the time ask any nurse

@jetsetradio7715 Год назад

It is a bit rude but that's how it is for most older women, women are most sought after in their 20s by men of all age ranges maybe not 70+ year olds because the labido at that age is gone. Lot of men, including myself stop giving a shit about non written in stone rules about dating but I make it quite clear to women that the relationship is temporary, I don't try to manipulate them into thinking it's anything but a fling. If a grown ass man though is going after a literal minor than please let Chris Hansen know.

@missandry2669 Год назад

@@jetsetradio7715 You mean ignored rejected then whine that all women are shallow goldiggers 🤣🤣🤡

@jetsetradio7715 Год назад

@@missandry2669 I never whined about anyone being a gold digger never even called a girl that either, like I ain't looking for a wife never have been.

@missandry2669 Год назад

@@jetsetradio7715 Most of you still cry

@katedrew8859 Год назад

I agree that Billie has had DIFFERENT life experiences than most 20 year olds but I don’t agree that she’s had more life experience, there are things that most of us experience in our formative years that she won’t that inevitably will let her down in the long run.

@okyeah4sure Год назад

Extremely sad and worrying that no one in her circle has found a way to protect her from this :/

@dirt1688 Год назад

@hey hey if someone i care about were in her situation, i would express to her in a respectful way that it really worries me and that I dont trust her S/O. When enough people you love are telling you that something isn't right, it's easier to get away from the relationship and feel supported.

@lavellans Год назад

This is literally what they groom young celebrities for

@mmiaxyz Год назад

@@dirt1688 and so imagine you're billie. you're finally happy in a loving, caring, relationship for the first time with someone that you've idolized your whole life. all of your fans think its a horrible idea. would you care?? would you break up with your boyfriend simply because people who aren't you or your boyfriend don't "trust" your s'o??? like... finneas is the closet mf to billie, and he would KNOW if someone is bad for her. god.

@dirt1688 Год назад

@@mmiaxyz thats not how relationships work, and thats not how abuse or skewed power dynamics work. you sound really young, in a few years when billie inevitably comes out of whatever she says in and starts talking about how unhealthy it was, you'll see.

@catsinwonderland7473 Год назад

They try, they really do. “and my mother accused me of losing my mind/but I swore it was fine/I should’ve known” -Dear John

@ejimenez1588 Год назад

I was 17 when I started dating a 21 year old and even though it wasn’t a big gap, we had different priorities about schooling and career. Looking back, even though he was in community college he was so immature and was still acting like a high schooler. Now that I’m 21 I could not imagine dating someone that wasn’t atleast 2 years out of highschool and had some real world experience

@lhvy5066 Год назад

I dated a 19 year old at 16,,,now I'm 22 and I can't imagine dating a 18 or 19 year old cause,, why would I? there's literally nothing in common, ppl change so much between those ages and dating someone older at that time really fucked up how I would experience becoming an adult

@ellealine4159 Год назад

Oh same

@RachelJayne92 Год назад

It’s a huge gap when you’re so young! ♥️

@BitchChill Год назад

4 years is a long time. People who say "Uh-uh!". I say them. Okay imagine a 14 year old dating an 18 year old. Yeah. The thing is people see young adults, so 17-23 as all being in the same spot in life, which they're not. A 17-18 is still in school while anyone who 20-23. Is in college, or the real world. And has been for multiple years

@CapsunixOfficial Год назад

SAME! 17 and 21 might not seem much but you’re in way different places in your life - and it’s a much bigger difference between 17 and 21 than 21 and 25.

@yingdat9295 Год назад

The amount of high school girls that think they are the IT Girl all because they dating a guy in their 20's is embarrassing

@nicoleonlysometimes824 Год назад

those high school girls are victims

@anyone1111 Год назад

@@nicoleonlysometimes824 exactly!

@yingdat9295 Год назад

When we tell High School Girls their relationship is wrong they like to say we are jealous

@--8966 Год назад

The men should be embarrassed that they are dating a highschooler

@yingdat9295 Год назад

@@--8966 even the girls should be embarrassed

@tylachad6102 Год назад

This dad who used to come to my old job would always hit on me. One day he asked me how old I was and I told him 27. He said “oh, I thought you were much younger than that” and never hit on me again. The worst part is I know that this man does conditioning classes with high school cheerleaders and they always say they didn’t like him. Now I know why. Mind you this man was 38 with two daughters AND a girlfriend. 🤮

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

truly disgusting

@ms_cartographer Год назад

Aaron,Taylor-Johnson (dude who portrayed Avenger's Quicksilver) met his wife when he just turned 18, and she was born in the 1960s. That's another age gap relationship that creeps me out. They had a child together, and his step daughter is young enough to be his sister. It makes my skin crawl.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

all age gaps involving celebrity couples are creepy

@missinchoate Год назад

THIS is what we need to talk about more

@Iaurenz Год назад

i’m 22 and i feel like i’ve grown so much from when i was 19/20 so i can’t believe grown men like to go for teenagers

@fart63 Год назад

That’s the reason why they do. 19/20 year olds don’t know very much at all about the world. They are easy to manipulate

@secondhandgaladriel6106 Год назад

ok no that seems ridiculous to me, 20 and 22?? 😭😭 come on now y'all that is literally 2 years

@isabellaa.8429 Год назад

@@secondhandgaladriel6106 How old are you?

@secondhandgaladriel6106 Год назад

@@isabellaa.8429 20

@isabellaa.8429 Год назад

@@secondhandgaladriel6106 I'm 23 and I think in 2 or 3 years you'll see what she means. I think for most people from your early 20s to mid 20s your mindset changes a lot

@RedPandaNinja6886 Год назад

age gap relationships are just so baffling to me because it just doesn’t even occur to me that i could possibly be attracted to someone who isn’t in the same stage of life as me. (in either direction) i was confessed to by someone who is 6 years younger than me recently (i am 25, they are 19) and i was so taken aback because it wasn’t even a thought in my mind that they could even be a potential romantic partner since we are in very different life circumstances. i can see how younger people find it easier to go for romantic partners who are older than them because they dont feel like the relationship is unequal (ie they dont see their own immaturity). but personally having been around a lot of 18-20 year olds as a 25 year old in post secondary i just cannot experience any kind of attraction to them. i feel like i need to parent them, not date them. i already cant imagine when im 30 looking at a 20 year old and finding them desirable in that way, it quite frankly gives me the ick

@corpsefoot758 Год назад

That’s my #1 reaction when randomly meeting younger girls as a dude. Constant parental anxiety lmao “Do your parents know you’re here”

@mpofc Год назад

@@corpsefoot758 like that ABBA song Does Your Mother Know xD

@JessMan508 Год назад

@@corpsefoot758 stop checking out minors.

@MrEpz4321 Год назад

Because that you are a woman. Men like young girls the way that women like tall men. Which is why you get much less attention from men at 25 than at 16. It is like you've gone from a tall and handsome dude to a short and ugly man. Attraction is not symmetrical.

@erinkinsella91 Год назад

@@MrEpz4321 dude who are you tryna convince, them or you? Creepy

@hauntedmushroomsasmr7716 Год назад

Got sexually exploited online at 14 by men twice my age. I dated a 21year old when i was 15. Then a 49 when i was 19, and we dated for three years. It absolutely destroyed my life. Now, I'm 24 and happily dating a 32 year old who i was friends with before we began dating. Maturity is so strange: its like in modern society, women are expected to grow up even faster and men are expected to grow up even later. Most 22 year old guys these days work crap jobs, spend their money on weed and videogames, and complain about taking you out to eat and that's if they even want a relationship. Not all, but most. Myron from fresh n fit said and i quote "18/19 year olds are best because they are easier to groom." He is like, 35 almost. Men are predatory and frightening, and that's why it destroys me when i see the young 13 year olds on TikTok trying to look older. Like, girl these men are Preying ON YOU. Side note: Billie is messy and I'm not a fan of her pseudo-deep takes...but that relationship is worrying.

@corpsefoot758 Год назад

Whaaat the hell is that quote from this “Myron” 🤮🤮 Absolute waste of chromosomes there

@scarletsletter4466 Год назад

You're not wrong, but please don't base your opinions of men on online creepers & Myron from F&F. Those guys represent the worst manifestation of toxic masculinity that develops when a boy internalizes anger or fear of a woman. Myron likely experienced trauma where a female relative was a perpetrator or bystander who failed to save him. He is very mad at women. When you encounter a man of any age who's that bitter, please run & save yourself.

@birdgod5584 Год назад

Myron probably really thinks the best age is around 15 or 16, but can't say it.

@kylespevak6781 Год назад

A 49-year-old dating a 19-year-old is either an extreme win for them or they are an extreme loser. Holy shit

@MissCoffeeBean0 Год назад

Bruh myron is soo immature😂😂,more than an 18 year old🤣🤣

@Mag_1418 Год назад

I dated a 40 year old for 10 months at 22, it was the WORST relationship I've ever been in. The fact that he's lived for so long and never had a relationship longer than 2 years should speak for itself. I'm now happily married to someone my age and I wouldn't have it any other way.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@Fourwindsofsuccess I'm glad that there's educated people like you

@minjee3643 Год назад

Girls...if you were "mature for your age" you would be able to see right through these men. That's the reality. I get it, yall will do what you will. But listen up. You will understand yourself and just how mature you are after turning 25. Do not randomly date people just because they make you feel nice. People KNOW that is how you get people to like you.

@tiffanyapril5458 Год назад

Also remember that the brain doesn’t fully develop until 25 :)

@tavrincallas3218 Год назад

@@tiffanyapril5458 that's a myth, check out Nicholas Black's video on it

@psychomike2235 9 месяцев назад

omfg that doesnt mean you're a helpless idiot until your 25. jesus christ gen z is insufferable with this topic online. Thats not how human development works. Yall act like youre not an adult until 25 and thats fucking ridiculous@@tiffanyapril5458

@averyjeanne Год назад

I’m a lesbian and even I have experience with it. I have lots of male coworkers in their 30s who have hit on me and even asked me out, even after I told them I’m not interested in men.

@starfiresreign Год назад

I'm straight but it seems like some men harp on lesbians more because they think it's "hot" or something to keep poking at. I even had a guy ask me to sneak pics of my friends so he could imagine us kissing and him encouraging me to try and make videos with them for him. At the time I was heartbroken Now I'm just disgusted

@Tangerine2600 Год назад

"I bet I could change your mind" Like bro no you cant

@andifishgallery9400 Год назад

@@Tangerine2600 that makes it even creepier and def would not convince any ounce of a “chance” left lol

@meghanrodriguez2393 Год назад

Same here, even with "men" around my age. It's disgusting.

@3u-n3ma_r1-c0 Год назад

@@starfiresreign i think he just has a girl x girl fetish.

@onesabrathwaite9921 Год назад

I'm so glad that i found this video, I'm 19 and i have been attracting guys that are way to old for me (I'm talk twice sometimes three times my age). At first i thought i was the problem, that maybe I was doing something to attract these men, i was even thinking of going on a date with one of them(he invited me to his restaurant). But after watching this and reading the comments, I've realized it not my fault and that i should not even give this man the time of day. Thank you so much Madi and everyone else in the comment section.

@kate56ful Год назад

Love to see young women today learn how to protect their wellbeing and mental health by avoiding bullshit from men and other predators. I hope for a future where it's normal for a woman to grow up happy, free and mentally fulfilled. This continued cycle of trauma does nothing but make being adulthood hard and bring the world down.

@gotakulona6663 Год назад

i live with someone who’s been doing these to me and he’s twice my age, reading your comment makes me feel better

@Guerillafeva Год назад

As a 32 year man who's generally more attracted to mature older women i can't imagine myself dating anybody under 25, it's a possibility that a younger woman may have developed to match my own maturity but i think it's very unlikely. No shade on those that consensually engage in these things but younger men and women should both be aware of these natural power imbalances (especially younger women)

@ghostii4039 Год назад

Respecting you my dude

@mmiaxyz Год назад

i 100% agree and respect the way you put it, but at the same time, would you say the same for those 30 year old and 50 year old relationships? no one talks about those.

@rose2divine956 Год назад

my bf just turned 32 and im 24 and my friend is 25 and her bf is 33. this is interesting

@omgthisismeomgthisisme Год назад

@@mmiaxyz they're adults, nothing wrong with it

@silvergust Год назад

@@mmiaxyz a 30 and 50 year old are fully grown adults whose brains are finished developing

@disgust4941 Год назад

Anyone else hate when ppl say age gaps are fine “cause my parents are different ages” Like it’s fine your parents are 30 and 40 but that doesn’t mean that 15 and 25 is ok in any way.

@fart63 Год назад

This is what I’m saying 💀 girl your parents met when they were 27 and 32. You are 16 and he is 21 it is not the same.

@kitty4638 Год назад

ngl their parents are the 15 & 25 year old couple too; it’s still gross either way chile

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@kitty4638 even if they were both "consenting adults" despite one of them being younger doesn't make it OK

@AnimatedBlast 10 месяцев назад

My parents were 5 years apart and I was always like ‘eww’ 😂

@Stormith Год назад

I don’t even think that most of these older men are outright predators- I think they’re just immature themselves. They have not mentally or emotionally matured as much as they should so women their own age don’t want anything to do with them, and they gravitate towards women they feel they have “more in common” with. It’s really pathetic and you get this sense that a lot of men grow up physically but not mentally

@Grrranola Год назад

1000%

@andreina3251 Год назад

I agree. Grown immature men are so much more common than we think.

@DollfaceLizkah Год назад

No let's not take the responsibility away from them. They know what they're doing and why they're doing it.

@timotheechammywammy3214 Год назад

Then they think older women are jealous because they go after younger girls/women 💀 it’s so delusional

@rose-yeah Год назад

@@andreina3251 true

@claracedar Год назад

maybe miss billie is repeating herself thinking she can do it better this time. trauma repeats itself until you figure it out. you can know you’re doing it and still do it again like a record player

@elenal1906 Год назад

Repitition compulsion

@Quinnon Год назад

Being a 22 year old, pregnant by a 33 year old.. He loves the power dynamic, he doesn’t love you. There’s a reason nobody his own age wants him. Be careful, I’m tied to a creep the next 18 years of my baby’s life.

@aviatress5643 Год назад

May everything be well for you and your baby ❤

@jr533 Год назад

That's your experience, not hers. It's different for everyone.

@Quinnon Год назад

I didn’t say it was

@VFILE-sr1wk Год назад

You can always leave him, maybe not right now but when you have the money you can leave and be okay with your baby

@stardust6870 Год назад

Ah, I loathe big age gaps and always find it hard to believe the younger partner is respected and treated equally. My first boyfriend was five years older, and although that wouldn't be a significant difference now that I'm in my late 20s, it was when I was 17 (so, a high school student), and he was 22 (obv, a college student). He convinced me that many things he was doing to me were normal in a relationship, but he was abusing me - mentally and physically. When I told him he was using me for fun because I'm just an inexperienced girl, he claimed I was not that young, and I was mature for my age. He made me feel crazy and made me question the reality so many times because he had experience and age advantage on his side, but I believed his words because he was older. Now when I look back, I could have convinced a 17-year-old boy of everything I wanted when I was 22. I finally ended things with him when I was 20 years old (traumatized for almost a decade) and discovered that he had started dating a 15-year-old girl. After that, I learned that every person dating someone much younger has a problem. They want: a) someone they can easily manipulate and coerce into doing things they wouldn't otherwise, b) relieve their youth, c) they feel old, and a young partner makes them feel better about themselves, d) they date the younger partner solely for the superficial reasons (youth equals beauty, attractiveness, and desirability).

@DianaBeautyLA Год назад

I am going through this now. I was in a relationship with an extremely egocentric older man for 9 years. I broke up with him any times and he always found a way to get me back. This year he cheated on me (that I know of) and is with someone 11 years younger than him and he’s 7 years older than me! I was 20 when I met him and I’m now 29. Even in our mid 20’s we are still very inexperienced in life and lack insight that we don’t get until 30 years +

@maheenm.k1015 Год назад

@@DianaBeautyLA eww he cheated on you with a teenager despite you being so much younger.

@maheenm.k1015 Год назад

You know I'm really starting to question the common reasoning "you're mature for your age". What if rather then you being mature, you were just a good kid. An obedient kid who took the burden of being understanding (boys are bigger risk takers and break the rules more because they know they can get away with it). What if rather than you being more mature, he adultified you to justify wanting to be with you. When really he just thought you were easier to control and more obedient than a woman his age was going to be. It reminds me of how girls go through adultification, parentification, and oldest daughter syndrome, not because they're more mature but because different expectations are placed on them. Girl don't mature faster, they're held accountable for things that boy children KNOW they won't be held accountable for. They have a different pressure to be liked. They make emotional sacrifices and take on roles they shouldn't have to such as caring for their younger siblings as children. Disney movies also brainwash us. Think of Cinderella and snow white, do unfair chores for your family and a prince will make your dreams come true! In the original fairytales, all the step-mothers were the princess' bio mothers. Lastly, I learned that being mature for your age at a young age is a trauma response. It's a symptom of trauma if you prefer conversing with adults, but then struggle to get along with your peers as much. I feel like it's know surprise that it's usually girls who feel mature for their age. The patriarchy traumatizes young girls, sexualizes them, and takes advantage of that same trauma in an ongoing cycle.

@crazyeight6782 Год назад

I’m sorry, but if I’m not getting anything wrong at 25+ he started a relationship with a 15 yo, did anyone report him to the authorities?

@lovelymill Год назад

@@maheenm.k1015 you are so right, it breaks my heart to live this life to be honest

@jenjoestar. Год назад

I used to get this a lot because I work in a college area and I’m a high school senior. Personally I think I look my age but my personality isn’t immature, It comes with it cons though. like when I was heading home from work a guy was asking for my number and I told him you’re definitely older than me. This dude asked how old I was and I said I was a minor and he asked again how old I was. Like sir a minor is a minor.....😓. Also I was thinking on getting a nose piercing for my next birthday but I’m changing my mind now, because it’ll definitely make me look older but as of now I have a baby face.

@mishiak Год назад

Could get temporary piercings for now! But, I feel you. I hit college and in the uk legal age is 16, and u start college at 16 And this 22 y/o dude said he liked me, and thru messages he literally knew my age straight away 💀 it was so weird

@jenjoestar. Год назад

@@mishiak that is a good idea! It’s very much weird when they know your age. I try not to blame people too much before hand personally but it’s still weird.

@Tofu_va_Bien Год назад

Ah I have one and people mistake me for a wee lass the whole time. Get whatever piercings you like, creeps are gonna creep either way unfortunately.

@ArielTheMermaid151 Год назад

Don’t get nose piercings, they don’t age well! But my opinion 😂❤

@sapphic.flower Год назад

The guy really said "how much of a minor??" 💀 Like bro, don't toe that line

@rogue0007 Год назад

there’s no such thing as being “mature for your age”. if you’re “mature for your age” it really means that you’ve been through trauma, but that doesn’t mean you’re ready do handle adult situations and relationships. the truth is most relationships that have a big age gap involve some sort of emotional manipulation.

@eileenmunoz3369 Год назад

She is an adult though. Don’t make it seem like she’s still 16

@tiffanyapril5458 Год назад

@@eileenmunoz3369 Sure. An adult who’s brain doesn’t fully develop until 25… remember that fact. And on top of that the guy dated her when she was a minor lol

@eileenmunoz3369 Год назад

@@tiffanyapril5458 Where’s your proof of that sweetie? They started dating last year, which she was still an adult. You can sit here and say what you want about the brain being matured but that doesn’t change the fact that she’s an adult.

@nstar1372 Год назад

@@eileenmunoz3369this is why when it comes to men, anything goes. The way y’all justify “she’s still an adult.” it makes me feel better about taking advantage and using men.

@eileenmunoz3369 Год назад

@@nstar1372 Karma always comes around

@tillyqtillyq3750 Год назад

We definitely need to talk about the ways this is normalized in our societies, like that whole idea that 'girls mature emotionally faster than boys' but like, where does that come from? How is that quantifiable? My dad didn't started developing emotional maturity until he got divorced at 64 so who's to say there's a clear arc that has anything to do with age 🤣 A lot of it feels like post-hoc justification to pretend that the pattern of older men pursuing younger women or girls is not creepy. Like yea men can be more likely to be immature but I think if you're looking for a more mature guy age doesn't always predict that because maybe an older guy has just existed longer getting what he wants without considering the emotions of the people around him

@LilyAlyss Год назад

Thank you 👏 Any person of any gender and any age can be predatory, childish and abusive. The same way a lot of younger men can be way more emotionally literate than, say, their fathers. There's a lot of nuance to this discussion.

@morighani Год назад

yes please let’s take this conversation to mainstream. Men think girls mature faster cuz we start menstruating early on and that somehow hormones = maturity??? We impose so much more on little girls and women have to be aware of sooooo much from an early age just to function in society. men can be reckless and mediocre and predatory with no correction because the way we allowed our society to be degraded by patriarchy. then the ones who ARE punished is because they lack resources and power and this just pushes them into the incel pipeline

@Briannajo_world 10 месяцев назад

trauma has been proven to force you to grow up and apparently, girls mature faster. gee, i wonder why that is?

@bloomtilltheend Год назад

*raises hand* i work at a coffee shop and recently had an old man call me hot and look me up and down, and proceed to talk about working at boeing and talk about his wife, and my coworker, a teenage boy, did absolutely nothing.

@MJMW Год назад

I used to work a boeing. It's def not a flex that shit sucked 😂

@anyone1111 Год назад

Oh my goodness I’m so sorry! That’s horrible. And even worse when your co-worker didn’t say anything. I’m so sorry and I hope you have a lovely day, night, and week💖

@marisawojcikiewicz8148 Год назад

Those who are “Mature for their age” are always traumatized, neurodivergent, or both.

@caralina1038 Год назад

Billie is both nd and was in past abusive relationships..

@CarlyonProduction Год назад

That’s a bit of a stretch. Human being vary massively. Some are smarter than others, some more worldly than others, some more mature than others

@sapphic.flower Год назад

It's kinda sad that Billie Eilish couldn't fathom dating another teenager when she was one because she was thrust into the celebrity world where there is no discern about how young she is. She hustled and was treated her whole teenhood the same way adult celebrities were to the point she felt disconnected from people her own age. I can't really blame her for feeling like she couldn't seriously date a (non celebrity) teenager but at the same time, she couldn't intellectually connect with the adults even more. She seemed to have that awareness but she didn't know what to do about it...

@user-zs4gf6ro9m Год назад

I'm 21 and my boyfriend is 29. He is a very soft person himself, but the age gap makes him feel even more soft loving care towards me. So it's not always bad

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

you're delusional stop pretending like you're living in a fairy tale type fantasy there's nothing cute or romantic about a 21 year old dating a 29 year old "it's not always bad" it is morally wrong stop pretending to be "woke"

@tavrincallas3218 Год назад

@@fatimahanwaar306 oh, go lick a cactus and be quiet

@ml37856 Год назад

i used to want a large age gap relationship until i realized i was just a lesbian and now i only find myself attracted to women around my age. funny how that works

@maheenm.k1015 Год назад

I am so fascinated. Can you walk me through how you discovered that

@xuimello3877 Год назад

The SAME thing happened to me

@xuimello3877 Год назад

@@maheenm.k1015 I can't speak for this person but I'll try to express my experience I've never found myself attracted to males my age because I'd never been connected to that level of maturity nor masculinity. I'd thought waiting for a male to grow up and display more mature and calculated thoughts and mindsets were pointless so I'd actively look at grown, well established men, which were virtually unrealistic. I thought because a man was of a certain age he'd have more humility and a lack a sense of immaturity boys my age had, which now I realize was just a part of masculinity and manhood/boyhood. In a sense I saw men as people and boys as something closer to pets that you had to guide and talk to, to get your desired outcome for relationship. As for my experience with women, I'd never actively pick at a woman and always embrace their quirks and traits, negative or not. I thought that was because I was a woman and could vouch for them because I thought, "well SOMEONE needs to defend them from these irritating little boys." When in reality I found myself connecting with them on a deeper level, which I eventually realized was romantically. Although now I do realize I am lesbian I tend to only be attracted to girls my age as opposed to women because they seem so foreign and out of reach. The absolute opposite to what I feel about men, which I realize I'm not attracted to, more like conditioned myself into feeling some closer feelings towards. Hope this made sense

@lavonnealexander6936 Год назад

Omg 😮samething with me.

@peytoncollins3962 4 дня назад

I'm bi with an man who is 9 years older. I thought I was lesbian because of this. But nope, I also like older women 😂

@izziedias Год назад

when I was in highschool I talked to so many girls that dated older guys, including someone who i was really close too at the time. she told that her and another friend of hers (when they were both 14) dated this guy who was 25. she kept saying that it was ok, because it she had the legal age of consent, and she wouldn't listen to me whenever I told her that someone close to they're 30's shouldn't be dating literal teenagers. but my opinions on this were was in a minority, and so many girls i knew were in theses kinds of relationship.

@fart63 Год назад

They will not realize how traumatic it is until they actually start to grow up. Such a shame that people don’t protect children.

@bm1259 Год назад

@@fart63 Do you not realise the possibility that you could be facilitating that trauma by saying shit like that. I hate this new shit where we almost force people to feel traumatised about things they werent before.

@zirconium2014 Год назад

@@bm1259 good point. ignorance is bliss

@djotchuiangela9955 29 дней назад

@@bm1259 nobody forced you of something what are you talking about

@vinnie-chan Год назад

And one more important thing -- you could be dragged into toxic relationships even without age gap. My mother is 2 years older of my father, but since she had no relationship experience until she met him at her 28's -- she was easily manipulated, and I ended up growing up with abusive parents. Now, compare it with Billie, who had multiply relationships and reflexed all of it in her art.

@deniskakocisova Год назад

Not my 18y.o. sister dating a 45y.o.....this video hits home. I'm so sad that she just doesn't let anyone tell her he might take advantage of her and by telling her she is soo mature (she's not..) keep her hooked because noone ever tells that to her because it just isn't true.

@paulaangelina7750 Год назад

nah that mans a straight predator. only thing stopping him from younger is the law. dude barely meeting the required "18".

@extrafirmtofu__ Год назад

Having a younger sister turn 18 and start making their own decisions that you can’t help guide is so hard. I’m so scared for her and feel so protective but I can only do so much in another city.

@rhean1768 Год назад

You might not be able to show her the light but you can certainly make the 45 year old see the light if you catch me drift mate

@tiffanyapril5458 Год назад

Hopefully she doesn’t learn the hard way :/

@crowley3000 Год назад

18 and 45 are not same with 31 and 21. 21/31 normal age for dating

@ciaraskeleton Год назад

The way I think about age gap relationships, is to note whether or not the younger member has a fully developed brain. This is usually true as of 25+. So if a 30 year old is with a 40 year old? cool 50 year old and a 70 year old? awesome go you. but 20 and 31 really just makes me think 'what is the 31 year old attracted to here?' and usually the answer for that is 'their genuine ignorance and naivety'. Especially in the case of Billie. Fame is trauma, it stunt your mental and emotional development. Yes this also means her partner is immature...but it means that she is particularly vulnerable. This coupled with the fact that people have been treating her like an adult since she was 13 really frightens me. Shes a kid in an adult world, like any child star. It doesnt make this kind of situation better, it makes it so much worse. ps knowing who he is, that he has a song called daddy issues, that he is king of modern male manipulator music is terrifying. peace and luv

@saintnicole3209 Год назад

yeah i don't really like how the video was implying that billie is mature for her age. she was homeschooled, had very little friends her own age and has been surrounded by people older than her for years. that doesn't make you mature, that makes you THINK you are mature in order to cope with the fact that you are socially underdeveloped.

@Coco-xq7zh Год назад

@@saintnicole3209 damn I relate to that sadly ;-;

@ciaraskeleton Год назад

@hey hey yeah, they are. Their brains aren't fully developed. Doesn't make their predatory behaviour right tho does it? This is a complex issue, and it seems that you maybe don't fully understand the essence of a manipulative power dynamic. Grooming can happen between a 11 yo and a 5 yo. It happens! And then they're both children.. but guess what? Doesn't make the abuse or grooming justified in ANY way. It doesn't matter what age the older partner is.....if they are being a predator to a significantly younger person it screams manipulation, grooming and abuse. I could write you an essay but I don't have the time!

@ciaraskeleton Год назад

@@saintnicole3209 totally! And when I was younger if someone told me I was naive and vulnerable I would have bit their head off. Thinking I know everything! And that's why it's such a shitty cycle. My heart goes out to every girl who's experienced this or is experiencing it. We will smash the cycle some day. ❤️

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

if you agree with a 30 year old being with a 40 year old and a 50 year old being with a 70 year old you need to be educated

@STVRL0V3R Год назад

I feel so seen right now… he’s 40 and I just turned 20 in September…. I recently ended things because it felt wrong, I trusted my gut. I also saw the red flags but ignored them,,, I can’t believe I thought he really cared…it still kind of hurts but I know I’ll get over this, just hope it’s soon…

@STVRL0V3R Год назад

Also when I told him how I felt he had the audacity to tell me I needed to have a mature mind to handle our “relationship “ which wasn’t a real relationship because I was his secret and he has a whole girlfriend, all 3 of us work together 🙃

@kylawww4642 Год назад

I was in a similar age gap relationship for 2 years, I was 20 when we met And he was 42, some was great some wasn't but you'll get over it! Sending love! There's much healthier relationships in your future :D

@Avi2Nyan Год назад

Omfg what fORTY year old is interested in someone who's only just not a tEEN anymore That's so gross Glad you got out

@glorianicole7242 Год назад

Glad you saw the light. Remember, you deserve to me more than a secret, and to have more than a creep.

@paulaangelina7750 Год назад

the shitty part is that it wont be too hard for him to get a new victim, im sure.

@tijanaself897 Год назад

I always say: (and I mean this between adults. Minors are a no go) An age gap doesn't inherently make the relationship abusive, but it does make it easier for abuse to occur. Its the power dynamic that exists that is a risk factor but not everyone will abuse the dynamic. The most abusive person I met was barely older than me at all.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

your comment is completely illogical and made ZERO sense it doesn't matter if age gaps in relationships are between adults this still leads to minors being sexualized age gaps DO make relationships abusive no matter the circumstances "not everyone will abuse the dynamic" they will stop being absent minded and educate yourself

@tijanaself897 Год назад

@@fatimahanwaar306 That's your opinion, unfortunately though there are very few relationships out there where it wasnt an abusive situation. I dont think you kind of people truly understand what abuse is if a mere age gap constitutes as abuse. That being said, minors being sexualized does not step from age gaps it stems from patriarchal standards. My comment is only illogical to you because you have zero nuance in your way of thinking. I'm sorry whatever happened to you to bring you to this opinion. At the end of the day the patriarchy will continue to sexualize younge women and minors. I remember the day I turned 18 I absolutely despised the fact I was now "legal" and a target for so many gross men. Yeah it's a problem but it stems from people not seeing women as actual humans as do many problems. The age gaps and romanticization and the sheer popularity of them are a symptom. I forgot to mention that I do believe around 90% of older men do end up being abusive, but in my experience that's about the same amount of men my own age who are. The reason I didn't originally go in on this topic was because my comment wasn't gender specific. There's plenty of older women going after younger men especially within Hollywood where its obvious they hold power. Its just as gross it just doesnt represent a larger social issue. Edit: the point of my comment isnt to downplay the risk. it is to say abuse towards women is likely to occur in ALL relationships with men. thats the terrible reality of it. The age gap doesnt mean shit when men the same age and even outside of romantic relationships are abusive to the same degree. All kinds of abuse are predatory, whether the age gap is a tool or not.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@tijanaself897 you're ignorant this is NOT my opinion it's a universal fact like how pedophilia is a crime (age gap relationships like this are part of it) stop using this argument that "not all age gap relationships are abusive" this is a delusional mindset I hope you educate yourself and stop pretending like minors being sexualized does not step from age gap relationships but steps from the patriarchy when they are part of it stop saying I have "zero nuance in my way of thinking" you're projecting your own narrow minded views also nothing happened to me so stop using it as an argument to promote your toxic "age gap acceptance" agenda you bringing up the patriarchy while defending age gap relationships is completely hypocritical it's the exact opposite of feminism you don't even know exactly what you're talking about when blindly defending "some" age gap relationships when the scrutiny against them is justified and it's common sense the "90% of older men are abusive" excuse doesn't mean anything they can still be you're just being too naive also stop bringing up abuse in same-age relationships just to blindly defend age gap relationships think twice before you speak next time and get educated

@jetsetradio7715 Год назад

My parents had an age gap of 16 years, it can work not always though. Older men do need to be honest about what they want from younger women though, I perfectly make clear my intentions on a first date.

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@jetsetradio7715 Older men only find younger women attractive because they are insecure about themselves pretending like age gap relationships can work is delusional

@durcheinander5554 Год назад

I fell for a 30-year-old when I was 19-20. I really thought there was sth between us. We kissed and made out once, and then he kind of stopped talking to me. Now, I still think it was a shitty move to just leave me hanging. He never explained to me why. But at the same time, looking back I'm happy he cut me off, because at least that was the right thing to do. I'm 27 now and 2 years ago, a younger girl fell for me and wanted a relationship with me. She was 20 at the time. It was such a bizarre situation. Her life was college and mine was an office job, I hardly remembered college anymore. The things she talked about, the problems she had was stuff I had already lived through, resolved and left behind. I liked her in a younger sister kinda way but anything else would feel wrong. Even the 5 year gap was a lot at this age. That's why I just can't fucking understand the weirdos who hit on 20yo in their 30s / 40s. Like WHAT WOULD YOU TALK ABOUT. WHAT???

@stares_mthrfckrly Год назад

Literally the only girls I’ve met who have defended this subject are girls who are in those relationships. They don’t want their predator boyfriends to be predators so bad.

@pweetyliciouse Год назад

Ouch

@DollfaceLizkah Год назад

Exactly right.

@andreina3251 Год назад

Or girls/people with parents that are in age gap relationships as well.

@caralina1038 Год назад

Exactly.

@jr533 Год назад

Don't say bs. Everyone has different experiences. Stop victimizing women.

@sampfadenhauer121 Год назад

These age-gap relationships happen quite often in the queer community, and I've been in a few myself. Although healthy age-gaps exist, I feel that queer teens (or any teens really) and young adults are just too young to enter them. Even with elevated maturity, they're still lacking in experience. In addition, because many gay teens are dealing with discrimination and troubles at home they tend to look for that "daddy" figure which usually results in very toxic and predatory situations.

@corpsefoot758 Год назад

Hear, hear. Grooming is potentially even more dangerous once it’s driven underground, because there are no longer any third-party eyes to keep things in check Hopefully as new types of relationships become normalized, creeps of all shapes and sizes will continue to get exposed (Kevin Spacey 🤮🤮)

@Briannajo_world 10 месяцев назад

yes i was thinking about this and how when you listen to the sexual awakenings of most gay men, they'll tell you they had their first sexual experience with a much older man. because most of them are in the closet as well, it's not like they can exactly ask for help or get advice. it super sucks

@luca57882 Год назад

As someone who was in a relationship like this from 15 to 18 let me tell you something, girls: There is a reason why he is single in his late twenties! Just don't even try, enjoy your teenage years, enjoy school and your friends and stay safe ❤️

@sycamore-tree540 Год назад

The age gap concerns me yes, but honestly what sticks out even more to me is the fact that she was such a huge fan of him and his band while she was a teen. He is literally her teen idol. It's giving Wattpad fantasy come true.

@psychomike2235 9 месяцев назад

and why is having your fantasy finally become true a bad thing at all? wtf? as long as she is happy its no ones business, shes not a child. bruh yall infantilize women way too much, they're not helpless idiots, women can know what they want and make their own decisions. America is really the main place that makes such a huge deal over age gaps between adults

@peytoncollins3962 4 дня назад

I'm with you there! If they met when she was 21+, I'd mind my business.

@jaydeerezvani Год назад

my first relationship was with a 27 year old at 19, we recently broke up and i cant believe i let myself get into a relationship with an age gap that big looking back like holy shit

@fart63 Год назад

@@reina8284 if you can’t see the problem you are part of it.

@xoch1717 Год назад

@@reina8284 what could a 27yr old have in common with someone who was in high school a year ago? he's a weirdo and a predator. our brains aren't even fully developed until we're 25. I think a big age gap is fine once the younger partner is at least 25.

@mintkit1064 Год назад

I'm glad you're free wish you all the best.

@puppppppies Год назад

@@reina8284 I dated a 26 year old when I was 18 and he was by all accounts incredibly sweet and supportive. We were both broke undergrads so it's not like he had that much of an advantage over me other than some experience in practical psychology. You definitely have to be careful but there's nothing inherently wrong with it

@iretiflud8251 Год назад

@@reina8284 nope it's about maturity. 19 is not mature

@maybe8985 Год назад

It just reminds me of the whole Aaliyah situation, even after her death a lot of man way older than her admitted they’ve fallen in love with her even though she was barely an adult and sometimes a teenager 😐 because she was mAtUrE fOr HeR aGe AnD dIfFeReNt

@nicoleharrington9086 Год назад

Aaliyah liked older men anyways

@nicoleharrington9086 Год назад

Doesn't mean it's okay though

@maybe8985 Год назад

@@nicoleharrington9086 and these grown men still wanted to date her (and some did) as a minor and even if she liked older men it doesn’t really matter in this situation

@miarose8267 Год назад

i wish it wasn’t the norm for all girls have to go through an older man “experience”. it doesn’t need to happen i just think it’s weird making a joke that all girls will go through this :(

@kate56ful Год назад

It 1000% doesnt need to happen and it is 10000% can be avoided.

@hew619 Год назад

I’m 26, husband is 34. We met when I was about to turn 24 and he was almost 32. I had graduated a 4 year university. I think our relationship is healthy and never felt “predatory”. I do think that Billie’s case is very sad however, she is definitely being preyed on and it’s not the first time. Disgusting

@crowley3000 Год назад

There are aspects and characteristics to consider, but essentially as long as it’s healthy to each individual it’s just fine. Just because there’s some imbalance doesn’t mean that something inappropriate happening

@AnimatedBlast 10 месяцев назад

That’s fine, y’all are adults.

@breannaflores4175 Год назад

Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds is possibly a good example of an age gap working out. There’s 11 years between them and they’ve been married for 10 years. I think a big part of what makes the relationship potentially dangerous or not isn’t just the age gap but instead it’s what their actual ages are when they first met and started dating. If the younger person is 18-22 they’re really just starting life fully because they’re out of high school and are told they can choose their own life now. You’re finally given the freedom you’ve been waiting for for 18 years and you’re excited to show the world how you’re using said freedom. If an older person approaches you at that age you might still be naive enough to ignore any possible “gut feeling” saying this new person might not be the best for you. On the other hand, if the younger person is over 25 let’s say, they’re now probably more used to that “freedom” of adult life and now have more experience being their own person and having their own opinions. They might have a more solid grasp of how to be their own person and also more experience listening to that “gut feeling” they might get if an older person approaches them. That being said and going back to my main point of Blake and Ryan, Blake was 25 ish when they got married which is why I say they might be a good example of an age gap relationship working out/ not being dangerous. I personally couldn’t date anyone younger than me (I’m 23) because I like to partake in “adult” activities (🍺 occasionally 🌱 💨 daily) and they are not old enough to legally join and I’m not dealing with that

@pabloescobarschanclas Год назад

never use celebrity couples or any couple for that matter as a template or an example…..you have no idea what’s going on behind closed doors with those two at the end of the day.

@breannaflores4175 Год назад

@@pabloescobarschanclas I don’t actually use celebrities as templates I meant a good example for a celebrity specific relationship if you wanted to compare them to Billie and Jesse. Since the video was about celebrity age gap relationships I was pointing out a different celebrity age gap relationship that seems healthier than others.

@serenawill128 Год назад

Sorry, but I don't think anyone in their 20s should be in a relationship with someone 10 years older. There's still a huge maturity and life experience gap between 25 and 35 imo.

@edenskies Год назад

It doesn't matter what ages you are when you meet, the older man still wants the ego boost of being with the significantly younger woman, it is what it is

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@breannaflores4175 if you think age gaps can somehow "work out" you're delusional also their ages don't matter when it comes to their first meeting and when they got married stop being a hypocrite if you're against Billie Eilish and Jesse Rutherford's "relationship" which has an 11 year age gap but defend couples like Blake Lively and Ryan Reynolds which has the same age gap you're delusional it doesn't matter how old they are if they are "mature" enough stop having double standards on which age gaps are inappropriate they can still be dangerous and unhealthy even when the younger parties in these relationships are over 25 think before you speak next time and grow up!

@goduxunike Год назад

This topic is such a big deal for me, even though I was lucky to not fall victim of older man. It’s crazy how bothered I get about suspicious age gaps

@maheenm.k1015 Год назад

It's because you remember your own vulnerability and feel like it could have been you

@goduxunike Год назад

@@maheenm.k1015 very good point, honestly! I'm sure I could fall into the same situation

@rachelsmith6359 Год назад

Learn how to mind your business then perhaps you won't be so bothered.

@1sugarplum971 Год назад

You're statement really hits hard for me. My cousin, 20, same age as me, is dating a 32 year old man. For fucks sake, I don't even know what to call him, uncle perhaps? It was so disturbing to be around them. I'm also very hesitant to look at my cousin since then. I don't know what to say or do whenever she mentions his old ass bf.

@ukchanak Год назад

The closest I had to an exploitative relationship was when I was 14. I was very precocious for my age due to early trauma (my parents divorced when I was a baby and my mother starved me and I was placed with an abusive aunt before my father got custody) and I met someone online who I really liked. Well, he was 25. When he found out my age, he immediately ghosted me (before ghosting was even a thing, this was early internet days!) I was crushed, but after a few weeks of thinking about it and how I was feeling, I realized I felt romantically towards him and that he was only being responsible. I knew at the time a relationship with him wasn't in the cards, but my romantic r-brain had wanted this forbidden thing. I'm glad to know that my instincts were good even then; I sensed he was a good guy, and in the end, he was.

@ameera.abubakr Год назад

If you're mature for your age then you'd turn down any older man trying to prey on you because you realize what it actually is. That's how I feel as a person who had to deal with that shit. I grew up and I realized that I was immature, hence why I wanted an older man to fulfill the void my father created. Because really that's all it was, a lack of attention from my father and the lack of attention from males in general.

@itssnunu1968 Год назад

My very first relationship was when I was 19 and he was a whopping 34. I honestly kinda of knew it was sexual but overtime I really thought I was so “in love” and he really loved me for me . I was honestly so confused at the time because every time we was in public or at work together since I met him at my old job we used to get so many death stares from people . I confided In him about my issues with my love life , my family , and deep routed insecurities that followed me since I was a little girl . And he used this to his advantage. And because of this I fell into the trap of manipulation . Mind Games and ended up in a love triangle with his ex wife of 15 on n off and his family . He was homeless and even was walking the streets of my city with this man hotel to hotel because he didn’t have a stable income , place to stay (cuz he was living with the ex wife and it was her house ) and not even a car ..and suffered from bipolar disorder and had blackouts…and I thank god every day that I didn’t get physically abused and god knows what else that I had decided this was not good for me and opened my eyes that he was using me for his twisted sexual desires . I say all of this to say that ladies … u can date who ever u want to date but don’t “date” a guy whose had way more life experiences than you and have two different outlooks on where u are at life . Trust you guys have not that lot in common other than u always wanted to know what’s it’s like being with and older guy and what’s it’s like for him being with a younger girl. The permanent Psychological and emotional abuse will be hard to fix amd heal from and knowing what that ugly truth I just stated.. and letting that sink in ……. A Predator ..

@lee49192 Год назад

what do you mean by two different outlooks on life? does that mean if you guys see life differently?

@JustAHorrorShow Год назад

Thank you so much for this video! As much as I appreciate how society is finally realizing how abusive and predatory age gap relationships can be, I've been losing my mind over how black and white these conversations have been. There's NUANCE in everything and I just wish more people were willing to engage with these nuances regardless of how uncomfortable it is. I have never been in a proper romantic relationship so I can only speak on my experiences with FWB type relationships. The most predatory and creepy guy I hooked up with was only 1 year older than me. On the other hand, the guy who was the most chill and accommodating was 9 years older(we're still friends). Age does not determine who is or is not a predator. Everyone is a unique individual and thus every relationship is also unique. I really hope we can start focusing more on things like actual behavior than just age.

@corpsefoot758 Год назад

For what it’s worth, I hope some day you end up finding the most enjoyable and fruitful romance possible (if that’s what you’re into)

@corpsefoot758 Год назад

@@freeloading_toad But wouldn’t you say 21/29 is still a much healthier age-gap than like, 18/26?

@freeloading_toad Год назад

@@corpsefoot758 I would agree with that. I guess I should have specified that I’m talking about age gaps with the woman being in her early 20s, bc a lot of people still view women my age basically as children, so that’s my bad. I do still believe that it depends on the life experiences of both (especially the younger one in the couple), although 18/26 might raise my eyebrow. Slight addition: the life experience difference between 18 and 19 was quite a lot for me as a college student living on my own for the first time and I would not have been ready for my bf if I was 18 when I started dating him. I was so much more immature at 18 before I had to start buying my own groceries, navigating adult social situations, and dealing with bureaucracy for instance

@rachelsmith6359 Год назад

THANK YOU!

@betsyb Год назад

my parents have a 9 year age gap. they met when my mom was 24 and my dad was 33. luckily everything worked out for them and they are still happily married over 25 years later but even they’ll admit they were kinda pushing it at that time. people in their early/mid 20s forget just how young they really are

@hollyhaas8224 Год назад

“you’re so mature for your age” has gotta be the biggest red flag

@LC-in2ft Год назад

I've never understood how women go for way older men. Men seem to age like 100 times faster than women. I've seen 26 year old dudes who look closer to 40. I'm like, ew. But I've just never ever been into older guys so I guess that's just me.

@ellealine4159 Год назад

Because we're being told that we mature faster. Real clownery out there

@s-wo8781 Год назад

I definitely know you're not including Black men in this conversation because black don't crack includes both sexes. I thought Chadwick Boseman was 27 when I saw him in 42. And Asian don't raisin either. When I heard on the radio that Keanu Reeves was over 50 my mind was blown. Black and Asian men are constantly told how young they look for their age. Speaking of Chadwick Boseman I remember he had an interview with a young black interviewer for Black Panther and asked the man what his age was. The interviewer said 28 and Chadwick said "wow I thought you were 17!"

@serinab Год назад

Ok.

@missandry2669 Год назад

Most have receding hairlines

@rachelsmith6359 Год назад

@Soph Way to infantilize women.

@zayzay4884 Год назад

Chris evans is dating a 25 year old and he’s 41. My mom is 44 and I’m 24 let that sink in yall. This shit is getting out of hand. It’s gross and predatory. Can’t even look at him the same way tbh…

@xoch1717 Год назад

I'm not even surprised. at this point I just assume most men are sickos and would take the youngest girl they could get. there definitely has to be an unbalanced power dynamic going on there because she is barely starting her career.

@zayzay4884 Год назад

@@xoch1717 I agree!

@zayzay4884 Год назад

@@reina8284 okay and??

@jenhaglund7339 Год назад

I recently read about this and I can't look at him the same way either. I didn't see him as the Leo type but once they hit 40 it's like they have to sniff out the 20-somethings.

@zayzay4884 Год назад

@@jenhaglund7339 girl it’s wild how many 40-50 celebs are dating people that could literally be their kids. It makes me uncomfortable that someone my moms age could find me sexually attractive because what’s stoping them from dating someone even younger…

@sagedelacruz1265 Год назад

You truly said it all. I love you. Thanks for saying it out loud & also standing up for Billie. Super annoying how everyone is infantilizing her. If you haven’t been through it you wouldn’t know how it feels. People are just making her feel more alone and attacking her and it makes me so sad bc this type of behavior is exactly what pushed me further toward my age gap relationship. Everyone turned their back on me.

@Maria-ru6vi 9 месяцев назад

So I'm in a 9 years age gap relationship (I'm 20, my bf is 29) and I feel like our dynamic is so much healthier than my friends' relationships with a small or none age gap. They experience so many controlling behaviours, jealousy, outbursts or crazy rules about what to wear or, on the other end of the spectrum, they are pretty much in a relationship "but they don't want to commit", while my man is simply incredibly supportive of everything I do and vice versa. Honestly even the amount of struggle that my friends go through for their man to maintain basic hygiene or cleanliness is off-putting for me. I am genuinely so glad to have a bf that's older than me.

@fatimahanwaar306 9 месяцев назад

stop pretending like a 9 year age gap is somehow "healthier" than having a 1-2 year age gap or lack thereof you're just using your own personal experiences as an excuse to promote your "age gap acceptance" agenda the fact that you're somehow "glad" that your boyfriend is older than you shows that you either have internalized misogyny or daddy issues you're nothing but a toxic pick-me turning feminism backwards

@Dennis-nc3vw 7 месяцев назад

@@fatimahanwaar306 Yes, how dare we turn feminism backwards by treating adult women like adults.

@Im_here_lol 7 месяцев назад

Tbh it’s not always bad case of the age gap relationship, it’s mostly bad but sometimes it might turn out healthy? Y’all aren’t THAT bad considering ik a lot of ppl that have a huge age gap Wish y’all the best

@GameFuMaster 7 месяцев назад

gotta remember that men hit puberty later than women, meaning that at the same age, the man is actually younger than the woman. And if the age gap is small, then they're basically the same age. But most of all, life is about getting life experience, rather than simply about the age you're at.

@bear.b 7 месяцев назад

Same with my relationship. My husband and I have a 5 year difference. When we got together I was 18 and he was 23. We were in the same friends group (where I'm from it is quite common to have people of different ages hang out together due to mutual interests, we were all born in the 90s and grew up in a pretty much identical way which results in a lot of common interests). My husband and I have been together for almost 10 years now, married for three, we've been through so much together and I always know I can rely on him and he on me. Apart from my father he is the only person I trust explicitly. He is my soulmate and even when we met we were on the same page in life, we wanted the same thing and had common goals that we support each other to achieve. I get so sad when people discuss the topic of age gap relationship in such a white and black matter. It has a lot more nuance.

@toxyvella Год назад

I was recently in a long term relationship with someone 11 years younger than me (together 6 years total). To be clear, we were both adults when we met. He was what society would say was "mature for his age" (aka childhood trauma which, correct). He pursued me, thinking I was much younger than I was, and I was not expecting anything to happen, but it did. Overall, we had a loving relationship that ended partly because of life phase challenges. We learned alot from each other and I am grateful for the role he played in my life. This topic has alot of layers and there are so many different stories to be told.

@CarolaTesla Год назад

May I ask how old you two were? A 20 year old with a 31 year old is not the same thing than a 30 year old with a 41 year old. It dependes of the life stage the parties are

@saintshrooms9424 Год назад

Key thing you left out of this is how old you both were

@maheenm.k1015 Год назад

@@saintshrooms9424 yup. None of us would be having a conversation about whether it would be acceptable for a 45 and 60 year old to date. But 17 and 23? That's a whole another ball game.

@idiot1117 Год назад

congrats! you're a creep!

@need_more_kittens Год назад

Now I want to hear this story from his perspective

@lachlainegordon806 Год назад

I haven’t even watched the video yet but i paused to say something: as some who used to be a victim of predators on the internet THANK YOU SO FXCKING MUCH! So much awareness need to be spread about this and every little bit helps. Not only for people unaware, but people recovering from trauma like me. It’s so good to see the title because it reaffirms the things I’ve been telling myself while in recovery. I haven’t done anything bad for a long time but its a specific type of trauma that leaves some pretty long lasting and unique scars (apart from my physical scar which I am actually in the process of removing laser removal therapy). Thank you for the video in advance.

@wandahost Год назад

My therapist said that people mature at 25 year of age and when a man tells you that you’re mature for your age, that’s a lie.

@bee1411 Год назад

Currently in a relationship with a 37 year old while I’m 25! Every single relationship I have had before now has been with people my age. They have always manipulated me and abused me horribly. :( I’ve always wanted to be with someone a bit older tbh. I was skeptical at first whether or not I would wanna be with my current partner due to the age gap of 12 years. However, my current partner is the best thing that has ever happened to me! We are both autistic, and disabled physically. He has helped me realize how toxic my past relationships were, because I didn’t see the full scale of the abuse inflicted upon me. It has been a breath of fresh air being with him, I feel like a fucking queen, and we both have equal power in the relationship, as we are actually in similar stages in life despite age. Neurodiversity/trauma can muddle the waters a bit there actually. I really appreciate you bringing up that it can work depending on life stage. Because situations can be so vastly different from person to person. So many people shit on age gaps, even if both parties are treated fairly. :c Makes me feel embarrassed to bring up how old my partner is, in fact my parents weren’t sure about it for awhile until they met him LOL! They absolutely adore him now, and my mental health has never been better.

@Ashley-bm9gc Год назад

Are you me? Lol this is my story girl except for the disability part. All the best.

@bee1411 Год назад

@@Ashley-bm9gc Thank you so much! ❤️

@wowlookatthathugestringof8s Год назад

Met my partner as an adult, he's 15 years older, we've been together over a decade and he's done nothing but protect and nurture and provide the whole time. He supports me when I need it without a single complaint and demands nothing in return. In 10+ years I've never seen him lose patience with anything or raise his voice for any reason. I like listening to what his childhood and teen years were like because he's from a different time than me. I like he grew up with different media and is always showing me oddball old movies people forgot or don't know about. It kills me that complete strangers make the most upsetting, uncharitable, horrific assumptions about him when they learn how much older he is. Thank you for your story, I deeply relate, I wish you all the happiness in your future.

@JaeDuh Год назад

Thank you for sharing this with us. I am trying to find someone's story that is close to mine. I wish you and your partner the best.

@JaeDuh Год назад

And I totally get that embarrassment. My partner and I are a whopping 22 years apart and sometimes I have too much anxiety to go out as a family because I know the way people look at us. I just wish society wasn't so hard for abnormal relationships.

@SH-vo5je Год назад

When I was 17 I dated a guy who was 23, he was abusive and just not a nice guy. After I managed to get out of that relationship, I dated a guy 16 years older than me. He was incredible sweet and so was his family, he is a little bit more delayed emotionally, but we are still good friends to this day and we broke up 4 years ago. He was even really supportive when I was raped. I don't think all age gaps are formed due to predatory behaviour but I do think that needs to be kept in mind. Not everyone is their mental age for their physical age and interests and beliefs can align to someone 5,10,15 or even 20 years younger or older. The issue is definitely when someone is being prayed upon sexually and a person has a history of getting with younger people and anyone under 16 is involved too.

@SH-vo5je Год назад

@@rosemarrie8270 You literally didn't even read the post. Don't try and insult someone in a reply if you don't even have the decency to read the initial post 🙄

@SH-vo5je Год назад

@@rosemarrie8270 And I stated NOTHING about a sexual relationship with a minor. Maybe control your own disturbed thoughts. Not everything 5, 10, 15 or 20 years is in relation to a minor.

@SH-vo5je Год назад

@@rosemarrie8270 If you read it all, I actually highlighted predatory behaviour which under 16, aka minors so your response is completely discredited.

@SH-vo5je Год назад

@@rosemarrie8270 I'm not even giving you the satisfaction of a response after this because you are still not processing my initial comment and are just creating scenarios and assumptions I am not implying to begin with. I am sharing my story and stating that in my own personal beliefs and experiences, some people (given they are within legal consent) can have connections with those older and not every age gap is PREDATORY like people make out. Some larger age gaps can be completely innocent in nature and no harm done and smaller age gaps can be extremely dangerous. It all comes down to the person and not always necessarily the age. I am not and never did refer to sexual acts between a child and an 'old man'. I even later stated that PREDATORY intentions are of course different as well as a consideration of historical behaviour of a person. My belief that age gaps can be fine and people can have a connection with someone 5,10, 15 or even 20 years older or younger refers to a non predatory situation unlike what you are trying to imply. My comment is more referring to how a young adult can have deep and meaningful conversations with an elderly person and see a sort of friendship there. Friendships can develop because not everyone with an age gaps wants to be manipulative or controlling. So no, my comment is not saying that emotional maturity dictates sexual acts, dating or excuses behaviour otherwise viewed as predatory or immoral in nature. Thank you and goodnight.

@rosemarrie8270 Год назад

@@SH-vo5je I'm not reading all that😂😂🔥💯☝️

@StyleboyEsposito Год назад

honestly this is such an interesting topic and your perspective on the topic is so needed, i've been having this discussion with myself recently as on my friends since primary school (elementary in the US i think) recently got engaged to an older man (she's 22 and his 31 i think) and another one of my friends is dating a guy that's 12 years older so it's been something that's on my mind. so hearing you talking about it is so good and allows to process it more. also LOVE THE PROMOTION FOR MISSING OUT 👏🏻 as it deserves 🤩

@bu1l3tz41 Год назад

my mom's in an age gap relationship; she's 34 and he's 52, but they seem happy together and their relationship isn't based off of age or anything. i feel as long as neither person is a literal child and they're both happy together then maybe it's okay sometimes

@serena841 Год назад

It would have been different if she was 20 and he was 38. I get suspicious whenever I see an age gap relationship where one of the two is under 25.

@tiffanyapril5458 Год назад

I agree if the person is under 25 then their brain isn’t fully developed

@pikachuuprising637 9 месяцев назад

Yeah. It would be weird if your mom was a teenager but after 30 it's definitely not weird. They're adults.

@GameFuMaster 7 месяцев назад

@@tiffanyapril5458and yet they can vote

@samira200 Год назад

I'm 17 and guys my age have *zero* interest in me, now the amount of 30+ men who have expressed ""desires"" with me is scary to say the least

@Nerium_Aquifolium Год назад

Ikr??? I’m 17 too and it sucks

@jetsetradio7715 Год назад

Going after an actual minor is definitely pedo territory, if you were 22 or something wouldn't be the same. Guys your age have less confidence, maybe try making the first move with one your age that interests you he might just be to scared to ask you out.

@annoyingginger5077 Год назад

Same, I'm pan romantic asexual and even though I have a larger potential dating pool, I've had no one my age express genuine interest in me but men over 30 seem to take interest, not for my appearance but because of my interest in steam trains, cars and Motorsport. I'll willing entertain a conversation with them about those things but nothing else.

@neonlighter75 Год назад

I RELATE. I remember being 16-17 and guys my own age weren't even interested in me. But then I would get a lot of text messages from 30+ old men online. Once, a group of 30+ old men whistled at me, I was in SCHOOL UNIFORM. Even though I'm no longer a teenager anymore, I'm still pretty short and i'm quite slender. I also have a baby face. I still get hit on by much older men unfortunately. I often question if they think i'm a teenager, so it makes me uncomfortable.

@MackenzieNerdyEMT Год назад

I'm 30 and my husband's 44. We've been together for years. Big age gap but there's not a power imbalance, he's amazing. If I were in my early 20s with a 40+ year old man it'd be different for myself.

@jacobruiz97 Год назад

How long have you been together?

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

stop being insecure "there's no power imbalance" there will always be one because of the age gap itself

@MackenzieNerdyEMT Год назад

@@fatimahanwaar306 I'm very secure and happy in my relationship actually :) seeing as my husband and I have great communication I know the inner workings of my marriage, more so than anyone outside of my husband. especially more so than a stranger on the Internet haha. I hope you have a wonderful day though! My statement isn't said with hostility just to clarify seeing as tone is lost through text, I just genuinely am very happy and proud of what him and I have cultivated together through the years :)

@fatimahanwaar306 Год назад

@@MackenzieNerdyEMT the way you say this shows how naive and delusional you are 14 year age gaps are anything but "healthy" acting like there's no "power imbalance" is a shallow minded statement

@MackenzieNerdyEMT Год назад

@@fatimahanwaar306 and you are free to your opinion. Carry on as you certainly won't be convincing me my marriage is unhealthy haha

@Alvyonzo Год назад

Yes I’m glad that you talked about the infantalization of young women, I think we get looked down upon in so many ways…

@eisa_98 Год назад

I really like to say: it's not about how mature you are, it's about how much you will still grow. So like when you are 17 and everyone tells you you act so mature, that doesn't mean you will no grow more. You are still 17. Your version of 17 but you will be your version of 25 too. And just because some person thinks they remained young or immature in their mind doesn't mean your maturity makes you their age. Cause when you are their age you will be a way different person. It's about letting people develop and not telling them they are already adult because they act so responsible or whatever.

@leak3699 Год назад

This!!

@KookiesNolly Год назад

This is so true, especially in regards to Billie and how pop star lifestyle supposedly is a justification for her maturity. I don’t find her mature at all. I’m barely 3 years older than her and everytime i hear her talk I find myself thinking « you’ll change your mind about this when you get older lol. ». Her Vogue interviews are so interesting for that reason cause each year she VERY PREDICTABLY revises some of her thoughts from the past. Even when I saw her documentary there was so many instances of her reactions to the industry that screamed « immature teenager who’s never had a job». Had she experienced the same fame at 27 instead I bet her doc would look completely different. She’s a very transparent person to me, and it’s tied to how young she is. There is just a reality about how most teens and YA act. Pop stardom is just a different life experience, not some higher form of life experience that usually happens later in life. It’s just completely different, and people WILL react differently to it depending on the stage of their life they were in when they experienced it and their support system. It’s not some great equalizer that makes 20 y/o in the industry on the same level mentally as 30 y/o in the industry (especially those who have more experience with it, like her bf). That’s just a lie Hollyweird love to tell cause we all know at this point that place is filled with predators. I refuse to believe that it’s just a coincidence that this narrative is popular in a place where abuse is known to be rampant.

@eisa_98 Год назад

@@KookiesNolly Just watched the "She said" movie in cinema :/ so I couldn't agree more.

@Lulu-ty9vk Год назад

It worries me how many people don’t care if you’re young, I’m fifteen and the amount of grown men who have told me that they don’t care or that it’s “nice” that I’m the age that I am or just after knowing my age continuing to be weird towards me is disgusting

@Elayourfella Год назад

Yo that topic should b talk abt more, it’s such a polemic thing- Im a huge fan of lore Olympus, the webtoon, and the age gap between Persephone and Hades rly gets me thinking so I’d love to see ur view on it :)

@Elayourfella Год назад

Also first!! Hi maddiee

@user-ooop Год назад

They made it a big deal in the beginning too. Like is she naive because she was sheltered or her age/both?🤔

@naolucillerandom5280 Год назад

@@user-ooop Yeah. Is it weird and you want to call attention to it and it's realistic consequences? Or do you want to ask people to suspend their disbelief and ignore it for the sake of a cute romance? I feel like you should pick one and commit.

@Avi2Nyan Год назад

I'd recommend Clementine Productions' video on Lore Olympus but they've completely disappeared from RU-vid, it seems. However, someone named Felix Kahn has done a video inspired by Clem and their views seem to be similar to Clem's, so I now recommend that one instead. Clem's video was very in depth tho, good stuff. They mostly focused on the power imbalances between Hades and Persephone (age gap, Hades being the big boss, Hades being a literal god and her being a simple mortal), but also mentioned other gods being just soo awful and it not being properly condemned by any other character or the plot

@whoIikegaf5 Год назад

get into it because persephone could've easily still been at least 25,000 years old or 25 AT MINIMUM, while still highlighting that she's sheltered and naive. same with hades, easily could've been 30,000 or 30 years old.

@ellealine4159 Год назад

I agree that it's not all black and white. In the end it's all about maturity and the stage of life you're living in, but age is a pretty good indicator of that. I'm 20 and I couldn't date someone who's 17. They'd most likely be in high school for a year or two, while I am in uni and live alone. I feel like those are two pretty different life stages, and I expect my partner to understand the things I have to handle on a daily basis. Obv this isn't a blueprint, and there's 17 year olds out there who already work and also live alone or rather independently. But generally it's a no for me. And I'm just 20!!!! I can't even imagine how much more life experience a thirty year old has, I can't grasp how they go out there dating literal teens when I'm shying away from people barely younger than me. Like there's not much of a playground where a 20 and a 30 year old are of the same maturity

@ellealine4159 Год назад

@@reina8284 ...is what I'm saying.

@jikookpm Год назад

I’m dating a man who’s 30 years old and I’m 21 years old. Our birthdays are just one day apart and we share so many things in common, though, I could tell that I can be immature at times, not all the time. For example, I got over my phase of drinking, partying, not saving up, not having a car and just carpooling all the time…And after these years just being carefree and not having a plan I finally wanted to start saving up and just do traveling (not too much but still did), went to concerts, met new genuine friends and enjoyed my years well doing these things! So I am settling down and looking for things to study and ever since I’m dating this man I feel the exact same. I can still do things that I like, like…traveling, going to concerts, buying albums and collecting albums, meeting up with my friends, having a healthy balanced life between my friends and my relationship, all while being pregnant right now, while also saving up. I want to study next year and it’s going to be a challenge but we’re prepared for it. I feel like he’s mature enough and I’m also mature enough too, except when it comes to concerts and traveling, i am OBSESSED with traveling! ✈️😊but we still have a healthy relationship. I have had relationships with older guys in the past and have learned from them. But this relationship is really different. We knew the age gap of 9 years, we knew what we were doing, we planned things we wanted to accomplish individually and together and to still live as individuals but in a relationship. It’s still creepy when some older men approach really really young teenagers. But i want to make this work and we love our maturity we’ve gotten along the way and the love❤ we have for each other. Is it so wrong to love someone that you get along with so well and are similar to? Like, we both hate partying, drinking, city life, etc. We just like to keep our lives simple just traveling and going to concerts and saving up and learning new things! Is it so wrong…?

@GameFuMaster 7 месяцев назад

him being 30, if you're into similar stuff, he may also be able to guide you on things that he wasted money/time on. Maturity comes from life experience, not age. That's why we have 40 year old Karens.