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Are You Programming Your Metal Drums Correctly? with Scott Elliott

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I’m Scott from Chernobyl Studios, and I’m just like you: a home studio musician and mixing engineer. From the beginning of my journey, all I ever wanted was to have a big, massive, metal guitar tone for my music.
In 2013, I started to study mixing and tone crafting more seriously so I could bring this desire to life. What I didn’t know was that I was venturing into a world of conflicting information and secrecy. Maybe it sounds a bit dramatic, but how many times have you seen a video on RU-vid that claimed you could “sound like the pros in minutes,” just to find out they have thousands of dollars in gear and plugins and really didn’t explain anything anyway? These videos never helped me get a better idea of how to create my guitar tones.
I wasted money on plugins I didn’t need, followed advice that wasn’t helpful, and made every mistake you can think of multiple times over. 6 years of frustration later and I now know what it actually takes to great amazing guitar tones.
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@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Comment your questions for Scott below, and let me know what you thought of the video!

@serge1643 3 года назад

I just needed this video, thank you for sharing it.

@Czyszy 3 года назад

The best advice that's been given to me regarding drum programming is "transcribe your favorite drummers' grooves".

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

You’re very welcome Serge!

@CrushingAxes 3 года назад

How to achieve this level of beard greatness!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

@@CrushingAxes Patience and beard oil! haha

@AlexeySolovievMusic 3 года назад

Huge Congrats Scott on releasing your new course. All of your courses are super great and super knowledgeable ! Can’t wait to take this one! And Huge Thanks to Warren for promoting such a great talents! You Guys Rock! 😀👍🔥🔥🔥

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Thanks for the continued support Alexey, I'm happy to help !

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks ever so much Alexey!!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous

@Pasta221 3 года назад

Nice to see you on the channel! And nice to see a big badass beard too

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

The beard gives me the secret power! :D

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Haha badass beard!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Famous for your beard Scott!!

@junkawakami3193 3 года назад

for 32nd note double kick i found 90-110 range sounds at the very least, realistic. and when it comes to single strokes (that means traditional blasts) no more than 90 on cymbals while 80 on snare is the best way to go (that also depends on whether the library splits between rimshots and center hits, too). also for dominant hand it's always 8-16 velocities higher than the other hand. at least that's how i approach metal drum programming anyway!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Very much depends on the tempo! If it's very mid-paced like at 120bpm, it's quite realistic to play loudly since it's so slow. But the faster it goes, the lower the velocities have to come down, so you make good points!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 thanks for sharing!

@williamtell1477 3 года назад

Scott you're a badass and a fantastic teacher! Been a huge fan since taking Guitar Tone Mastery, been waiting for this new course!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Yes, Scott Rocks! Awesome, thank you!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Thank you William for the kind words! It's a pleasure to help!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Fantastic!!

@shea_o_keith 3 года назад

Thanks, Scott! This would've helped me loads years ago when I was trying to figure this stuff out but I still learned some cool tricks from you!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Happy to help man !!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks ever so much Keith!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 you Rock!

@andygreen5565 3 года назад

This is gold. Thanks

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Happy to help!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks Andy!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Marvellous

@splashesin8 3 года назад

I wish my neural transmissions worked like I want them to for drumming. I love listening to people in control of theirs. Maybe I could use something like this to practice narrowing my spark plug gaps in less hours than usual on any day. Meanwhile I need to check on a few drummers in my instagram feed I have missed for almost a year now. It's an ongoing puzzle of how to grab time metaphorically and physically. 🙂

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Haha thanks ever so much for sharing Audrey!!

@toddgreenwood9631 3 года назад

I'm no a metal guy but I watched the whole thing. Very Nice. If I tried to play that on drums there would be a lot of sticks hitting mics and rims. So, need some samples of the mic getting hit by a stick to make it sound like it came out of my shop.

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

SSD5.5 does have some rimclicks for snare and each of the toms hahah

@toddgreenwood9631 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Perfect! So I just put them in random spots pushing the beat way too much and - there's my 'feel'.

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks for the great comment Todd!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 marvellous!

@CrushingAxes 3 года назад

Scott is a really cool guy ! Always helpful videos ! Also a very nice beard!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Happy to help! Thanks for watching :)

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Agreed! We are huge fans of Scott's here!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 no comment on the beard! Haha

@CrushingAxes 3 года назад

@@Producelikeapro 🤣😂🤣😂😂

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@CrushingAxes haha

@twodeepupyours508 3 года назад

Great video and that was just a whiff of what he's stepping in 👍

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Haha indeed

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Thanks man :D

@iwantappledumplings6187 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 YES!! LOL

@borogove 3 года назад

Wow, this was very productive! Thanks a lot!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks ever so much

@wyrlismike 3 года назад

I for one would like to see more on programming drums on this channel

@valerianmandrake Месяц назад

Wow this was really great, I don't use Reaper but Logic and I'm still new to programming drums. I'd love to include more of a metal soud into my music, so this was perfect for me.

@genuinefreewilly5706 3 года назад

OH man that was great! You and Adam keep showing me some cool shit with Reaper. Frankly I am not that fond of the piano roll and the selection tool, its me and my age and grabbing on to it and I have a crappy scroll wheel on my mouse

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Fantastic William! Thanks ever so much for sharing

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

I hear you, even if I didn't play Quake, I would be buying gaming mice anyway for the extra control and precision for programming haha

@erock.steady 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 yeah niiiice i used to left hand the g-13, a half-keyboard sized keypad with an analog thumbstick. at the time in my right hand was the g-600, a mouse with an entire keypad's complement of buttons on the side. each on it's own had immediately discernible impacts on many facets of various stages of the productive processes of creative fields thru their multiple phases, most notable while engaged in processes benefiting from rapid iteration. when used together? sofa king BEASTMODE. absolutely worth the time and effort required to customize each on case-by-case bases.

@genuinefreewilly5706 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Cat fur, coffee and other beverages are not good around my half baked musical cockpit and mice, but heck Ive got a nice window view I go through mice faster than my animals can catch them :)

@RÅNÇIÐ 3 года назад

Hey, man. Whatever happened to the mixing streams. Really missing those.

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

Was exceptionally busy putting MDPM together, took a metric ton of work... but now I'll finally be able to do something else. We did get the vocals for the track, though, so we can finish that ;)

@RÅNÇIÐ 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Thats nice

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Yes, Scott! More mixing streams! Haha

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

@@Producelikeapro I need to clone myself ! :D

@erock.steady 3 года назад

noice - i'm subbed to chernobyl as well as pro like a pro. imagine... MY surprise! it's like i just made plans to get stoned during break and not make it back for lab after lecture lol that's to say ima pull an all-nighter. EDIT: weeell the surprise is my own to imagine..! it's different content. looks like stoner friends are gonna go without me this time.

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

That's amazing Erock!

@DarkSideofSynth 3 года назад

Absolutely wonderful.

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks ever so much!!

@CatFish107 Год назад

not just a black metal riff, but the tone of the guitar sound too. The texture made me think in grainy black and white footage.

@DimebagDoogle 2 года назад

Superb! This has helped me immensely thank you so much, :)

@dave1812 3 года назад

which DAW is this?

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Hi Dave, Scott uses Reaper!

@ericolson326 3 года назад

My kingdom for a metal-friendly pattern-based drum sequencer VST!

@dirface 3 года назад

26:27 vocals were short but sweet!

@Lonewolf77799 Год назад

What is the shortcut to split notes and where do i download the midi note selector? great video im a big scott fan

@mr.x1478 11 месяцев назад

This is a very isnpiring and informative creartive.

@Vincent-iy3ig 3 года назад

I'm really interested in this course. Drums and percussion are definitely the area where my musical knowledge is weakest. I'm not looking to programme metal drums per se, but was interested to know whether this course would help with other styles of music?

@frankvalenciamusic Год назад

🤯 wow man ... Thanx a lot

@dEaFTOLiGhT 3 месяца назад

What plugin are you using to make drums?

@alfiesolomon3531 Год назад

Can't find the full course Metal Drum Programming Mastery?

@timothyzdroik890 2 года назад

Hey Scott how you been

@balialofficialband8236 2 года назад

I AM NEW TO THIS HOW DO I GET THE MIDI NOTE SELECTOR TO OPEN? & WHAT DO I NEED TO SET UP IN THE EVENT PROPERTYS TO MAKE THIS WORK?

@thespotlights9278 3 года назад

So, why is the course no longer available?

@applegarden2448 2 года назад

where is it available?

@TravisHY 3 года назад

This wasn't fast enough for me, so I watched the whole thing at 2x speed and now I need a nap.

@samuelellringmann3424 3 года назад

Haha I feel you! I'm creating the salespages for these courses, so I've watched a lot of them at 1.5x speed :D Metal courses are brutal!!!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Haha too funny Travis!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@samuelellringmann3424 Haha watch them at x3!! Haha

@TravisHY 3 года назад

@@samuelellringmann3424 It always makes me think, "Am I watching a video about drum programming or am I just overhearing every conversation that ever happened at a rave? We may never know."

@pipelineaudio 3 года назад

Because: REAPER...you're welcome

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Thanks for sharing!

@wyrlismike 3 года назад

Just curious, for the people bagging on the fact the drums are programmed, how do you feel about using an e-kit and playing through a sampler? Still blasphemy? Or better?

@theguvner83 3 года назад

What happened to the course?

@unlimitedgnar1955 3 года назад

Hey comments. Anybody wanna connect and make a metal song? I can do vocals/screams like Corey Taylor obviously not as good. I’m an edm/hip hop/trap/dubstep producer mostly but I wanna make a metal song so gawd Dan bad but I can’t play any instruments to make a good instrumental

@Derpadeedooda Год назад

How do I get my midi editor to behave like this?

@kingloser4198 3 года назад

26:27

@tommibjork 3 года назад

What would be more metal than programming?

@EmperorWelkin 3 года назад

Sounds like a song that needs vocals. :)

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

We'll have to fix that...

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

Haha indeed!

@Producelikeapro 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 indeed!

@Billy982810 3 года назад

I'm sorry to say. I'm a drummer, and you you get rid of me you just lost the best part of the band. I cant even listen to this crap...

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

I'm also a drummer, and many guitarists need to understand how we play drums so that when they come up with musical ideas and then transition to find a drummer to play the parts, they are realistic and complete, which can give us drummers a much better idea of what they're looking for.

@freezingcathedral 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 i just do generic beats and fills and let my drummer write his own parts based on the feel i prototyped. that seems to communicate the ideas clearly enough.

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

@@freezingcathedral Totally cool !

@thesongacademy5017 3 года назад

Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer Billy, this is for people who done;t have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room, maybe even still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.

@SnowAngelfish 5 месяцев назад

Interesting,,Just learned that metal drums programming is probably the easiest there is because the patterns are so basic. Cool ..

@cimmerian100 3 года назад

If you're programming Drums you're not doing Metal correctly :p

@cimmerian100 3 года назад

Just kidding :D, sounds great

@stormshadow2k 3 года назад

I do this on my solo stuff because I don't have access to any drummers with time and inclination to play on my stuff, lol, BUT I would trade programmed drums for a real human player any day of the week. Its just... programmed. And all the humanisation and velocity edits cannot change that. Its soulless, gridded and lifeless and more to the point passionless.

@ruddmedia Год назад

fuck programming! grooves are all you need to put together saves time and headaches!

@TheCoffinDaggers 3 года назад

Do you really like to listen to fake drums?

@joeyt2112 3 года назад

Why are we programming these drums? Can’t you find a drummer so it has some life? This isn’t music.

@Czyszy 3 года назад

There are people like me who can't find a drummer. :( Also, this absolutely is music.

@thesongacademy5017 3 года назад

@@Czyszy correct!!

@thesongacademy5017 3 года назад

Nobody is getting rid of the Drummer JT, this is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer.

@nicoras8803 3 года назад

If you can do that all why do you need any band at all. Just create the "music" you want, whether this sounds like the real thing is debatable. I am starting to wonder if audiophiles know they are listening to a computer as opposed to real music. What I can say it has absolutely no character at all. It is just a bunch of noise with no real dynamics at all. If you think about it I spent over $200K on a reproduction system for the enjoyment of music. Maybe I should have bought a mixing desk and a PC and a set of headphones and make "music"and sound like I think it should. Do I make sense? I am of the opinion just kill Phil Collins and make any drum solo you want. Poison every guitarist or better still kill all musicians, they are not needed at all any more. I am sorry, but my interest in hi-fidelity is fading at a rapid rate because I don't know or recognize what I am listening to any more.

@klauth_Yksyn 3 года назад

Thank you, and, well said sir

@thesongacademy5017 3 года назад

Hello Nico, firstly this is Modern Metal Music, nothing 'audiophile' about it. This video is for people who don't have a drummer, working from home studios, who don't have access to a rehearsal room or a live room with loads of mics, maybe they still live at home with their parents or in a studio apartment or just want to create great demos, again without access to a live drummer. The kind of music you want is heavily represented in other videos on Warren's channel, what I love about his channel is he's not a snob, he brings people together. Maybe check out some of he videos involving Strings, Brass sections and tons of other videos Warren does, rather than find something you hate to comment on? Wouldn't that make more sense?

@thesongacademy5017 3 года назад

@@klauth_Yksyn you identify with audiophiles? Don't understand why someone would want to programme their drums who doesn't have the access and money to pay someone like yourself to track them? There are MANY genres other than Modern Metal, (you should know that if you're a professional drummer) that use live drums.

@klauth_Yksyn 3 года назад

This is exactly why today's metal sucks. Go and listen to, "Battery" !!! And emperiance REAL metal that's played by REAL humans.

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

You mean the Master of Puppets album by Metallica? The one where Rasmussen had everyone detune slightly and play to a slowed tape, and then he sped everything back up again? It doesn't matter how it's done, only the final result matters. If it sounds good, it's music my friend. :)

@jorgosagb 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 Yeah Rasmussen did do that. I think todays possibilities are great. We're able to create complete songs, even if you don't have a drummer. Furthermore, I'm just assuming that this is just a small part of the complete picture and that you would bring in some dynamics tricks in order to make it sound more organic. Anyway, for people who are starting out, I think it's a great lesson. I do prefer real drums but, as said, that's not a possibility for many people. Keep up the good work Scott!

@ChernobylAudio666 3 года назад

@@jorgosagb The original video was over an hour, and yes, some stuff had to hit the cutting-room floor, unfortunately :(

@klauth_Yksyn 3 года назад

@@ChernobylAudio666 says a guy that was how old, when that song was cut? Too many pro tools jocky's...posing as pseudo "Engineers"...driving metal into a fake realm.

@williamtell1477 3 года назад

Back in the day, I was working in a recording studio on a big label record. One day the money guy came in to see how the sessions were going. Big LA exec. We were sitting on the couch in the lounge and the video for a new Metallica song from the black album came on MTV. He asked me what I thought about it. I loved the "real" Metallica and hated that album and their short haircuts and I told him I thought it sucked and they sold out. What he said was, "well I like it, and some other people seem to like it too". Whoever that guy was, he taught me something about my opinions that day. Funny thing is, I like that album now. (Baterry is way better tho, imho ;)